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  2. Jim Hargrove

    OSWALD - FROM OUT OF THE COSMOS

    Mr. Kelly uses George de Mohrenschildt to draw a line from ACSI to Oswald, which may well be quite reasonable, but I must point out that de M—before, during, and after 1963--was more closely associated by JFK researchers with one certain Agency than with any part of U.S. Army Intel. Here are two brief examples…. In “Oswald’s Closest Friend,” author Bruce Adamson flat-out called George de Mohrenschildt a “CIA agent.” In Joan Mellen’s book “Our Man in Haiti: George de Mohrenschildt and the CIA in the Nightmare Republic,” she describes de M as starting his work in Haiti “fresh from his xxxignment from CIA to look after the former U.S. Marine Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas and Fort Worth.” De Mohrenschildt’s career for a decade or two closely paralleled CIA black ops.
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  4. Jason Ward

    5'10"

    I hypothesize that the 30OCT63 CIA cable from Mexico City is sourced from [perhaps directly reading] the 28APR60 FBI interview with Marguerite Oswald by agent Fain, submitted in a 3JUL61 FBI report. Paragraph 2 of the 1963 CIA cable is virtually identical to a paragraph found in the 1961 Fain report. In other words, doesn't this suggest the FBI is the source of the Oswald background information provided in the CIA cable? 1. 30OCT63 CIA Cable Mexico City to Langley - note 4 elements: a. 5"10 b. 165 pounds c. light brown wavy hair d. FEB61 Oswald quote from letter to US embassy in Moscow, " ...we could come to some agreement concerning the dropping of any legal proceedings against me..." 2. 3JUL61 FBI report from interview with Marguerite Oswald conducted on 28APR60 - note 4 elements: a. 5"10 b. 165 pounds c. light brown wavy hair d. FEB61 Oswald quote from letter to US embassy in Moscow, " ...we could come to some agreement concerning the dropping of any legal proceedings against me..." {...several pages later...} note marginalia vertical line highlight of this paragraph ... is it in the original document? this paragraph is almost copied verbatim into the CIA 30OCT63 Mexico City cable
  5. Trygve V. Jensen

    Dillard...

    My memory often fails this late in the evening. It says that I recently read an FBI - report , regarding the T.C.Dillard - photograph (perhaps from the records released last fall), - where it was stated that two black men was visible in a set of windows above the window where the shots were fired from. Either I misread, - or they mixed it up.
  6. Steve Thomas

    5'10"

    David, Fain's report is dated 7/3/61. In his report, he says that information is predicated on an interview of Maguerite conducted April 28, 1960. The paragraph reads, "where she is currently residing..." at 1111Herring Ave. in Waco, TX., where she was employed at the Methodist Orphan's Home. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=400&tab=page The way the paragraph reads, I can't tell if that 's "currently residing" as of July 3, 1961, or "currently residing" as of April 28, 1960. Steve Thomas
  7. 1. If I ever get to ask Sorrels one question, it is this: Why did you race back to the TSBD if you thought the shots came from the Grassy Knoll? 2. If I ever get Sorrels, Hosty, and Fritz in a room together, I would ask them: Who brought up the Mexico City trip and where did you get the information - because Hosty says he never said a word? 3. If I ever get to make a hidden camera interview of Sorrels and Decker, I will ask them: With such robust plans for presidential security, why and when does Sheriff Decker order his men to have no participation in the president's security, contrary to agreed plans?
  8. David Josephs

    5'10"

    The marine discharge docs list him as 71" 150lbs. 1959 age 20... Rose Autopsy 5 9.5. Split the 5 9 and 5 11 down the middle to apply to either.... Our Oswald was never 165... Not soaking wet holding 20 lbs... Steve, Where was Mrs O contacted in 1960? Where did she live and work? Edit... In Russia in 1960, how big is Oswald? 5 7 it seems. And 140. Could not be Same boy
  9. Jason Ward

    5'10"

    Hi Steve, The provenance of the 5'10", 165# Oswald begins with FBI agent John Fain's report, as far as I can tell...right? Fain says this is how Marguerite Oswald describes her son. IMO it's important to pinpoint the first instance of this description because it can function as a Blue Dye Operation for us (which as an information pathology technique is made palatable and easy to understand in the movie Allied.) However, IMO not every node in this chain of information is necessarily an assassination conspirator. Even so, we can benefit from understanding how this particular version of Oswald's height and weight became a broadcast on 22NOV63 as -nominally- one of the ways the police were able to capture Oswald. Jason
  10. David Josephs

    Swan-Song -- Math Rules

    Mr. LIEBELER - As you stood there on this abutment with your camera, the motorcade came down Houston Street and turned left on Elm Street, did it not?Mr. ZAPRUDER - That's right.Mr. LIEBELER - And it proceeded then down Elm Street toward the triple underpass; is that correct?Mr. ZAPRUDER - That's correct. I started shooting--when the motorcade started coming in, I believe I started and wanted to get it coming in from Houston Street. Some Visual reminders... Thx & Great job Chris...
  11. Steve Thomas

    5'10"

    Jim, Marrion Baker's call sign was 134. That puts him the same category as Hargis (136), Brewer (137) and Jackson (138) They were all solo motorcyclists in the Traffic Division's 7:00AM to 3:00PM shift. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf (page 18 of the pdf file) If you look at a copy of Altgens 6, it looks like they did have an antenna right behind their seat. This is a remarkably clear copy of Altgens 6, but it takes a while to load. http://www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/ Steve Thomas
  12. Chris Davidson

    Swan-Song -- Math Rules

    And: (No WC data provided): (z161) - (z133) = 28 frames 33 frame count jump from z100-z133 28 + 33 = 61 frames added to z100 = start the data input.
  13. Hi Jason, Again, excellent work on Dallas Secret Service SAC Forrest Sorrels. I'll address your concerns by the numbers. CONCERNS 1. In my reading, the five old guys at the top of the Dallas Conspiracy were: (1.1) General Walker; (1.2) Sheriff Decker; (1.3) Captain Fritz; (1.4) Forrest Sorrels; (1.5) Harry Holmes. *** A few of the younger men in the JFK plot were: (1.1.1) Chief Curry; (1.1.2) James Hosty; (1.1.3) Buddy Walthers; (1.1.4) Luke Mooney. *** Young or old -- it was the Bubba Network of Dallas 1963, which loved its Minutemen dearly. 2. Sorrels was ready to convict Oswald at 12:45 PM -- because he was careless. He urgently hoped he had an eye witness that he could manipulate. *** Actually, there were two eye-witnesses who literally saw a 6th floor rifle shoot rounds -- Howard Brennan and Amos Euins -- but they could not make out the face. Brennan wavered in his identification of Lee Harvey Oswald as the shooter -- a big disappointment for the WC. Neither could be talked into identifying LHO. 3. I also find it unlikely that the veteran SS man in Dallas, Forrest Sorrels, never heard of Dallas' dirty Jack Ruby. Sorrels distancing himself from "Rubenstein" reminds me of Chief Curry's drawl. 4. Change-of-address cards give the FBI and SS plenty of data to track suspects. More people used the post office in 1963 than used credit agencies. The FBI and SS had instant access to Postal records. *** The Dallas Postal Inspector had a tight relationship with the DPD, FBI and SS. and he was present at LHO's final interview of his life. 5. Claiming a hostile reaction by LHO to the police discovery of his Alek Hidell alias, was Sorrels showing a criminal intent, an underground conspiracy, and hopefully a Communist Plot. *** Yet for me, this is putting words into LHO's mouth, and 90% of what Sorrels and the others claim that LHO said, I disbelieve strongly. 6. EXCELLENT point, Jason, about seeing no reason to include the Dallas Secret Service in the DPD Homicide Department. The only reason for Sorrels' presence is that he is a part of the JFK/LHO plot from the start. 7. The WC did ask him one question about checking in with the PRS. Sorrels said he checked in with them, and there was nothing and nobody suspicious in Dallas. One sentence. *** Yet Sorrels was close to James Hosty, and he knew all about the Minutemen in Dallas. This proves he is part of the plot, IMHO. *** Sorrels also knew that the handbill, WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK, was created by Robert Alan Surrey and General Walker -- the same two men who orchestrated the public humiliation of UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson in Dallas only 30 days prior. This was well-known in Dallas, by many. *** Sorrels knew of a Dallas Radical Right plot to kill JFK and blame LHO and then kill LHO -- because he was part of it. For that reason, he takes great care to keep quiet about the Minutemen and the Radical Right in Dallas. 8. The effort to emphasize Ruby’s birth name – Rubenstein -- was part of an effort to blame the JFK assassination on the Communists -- given the Dallas Radical Right belief that Communism was Jewish -- an attack on Christian values. *** This was the ultimate justification for any Radical Right violence. *** It is well-known by historians that Nazis sold their agenda on the claim that Communism was Jewish. *** In this way, the terror of Communism would be joined with sermons from the pulpit about the crucifixion of Christ by Jewish leaders, so that the grass-roots community would buy into it. *** As you say, Jason, the leaders of the JFK plot in Dallas were "old men." Some were born in the 1890's. They had seen the KKK March in Washington DC under Woodrow Wilson. These values were already decrepit by 1963. *** Reverend Billy James Hargis, a close associate of General Walker, was fully apprised of the JFK/LHO plot. He was close to Carlos Bringuier. ** Hargis' anti-Semitism was patent -- he called Judaism, "the Antichrist." He referred to Earl Warren's court as "the Antichrist" Supreme Court. So did General Walker. 9. Jason, I will deliberately bypass anything about the Jack Ruby trial, since I find it to be tangential and distracting to the JFK/LHO plot. *** Jack Ruby was persuaded by the Dallas Police on the weekend of 11/22/1963 to kill LHO. They worked on him for hours. 10. The JFK murder is about the Radical Right. Jack Ruby was not a player in the Radical Right -- except that he was a "bribed tool of reactionary intrigue." *** By that I mean that Dallas cops convinced Jack Ruby that killing the cop-killer LHO would make Ruby a hero in Dallas. *** As always, I credit Seth Kantor (1971) for his personal knowledge and insight into Jack Ruby's motives. 11. Like Dallas FBI agents Hosty and Bookhout -- Sorrels' honest testimony about the final 44 hours of LHO's life would easily reveal a Radical Right plot, so these questions were suppressed by those WC attorneys who already knew the Dallas Truth. All best, --Paul
  14. David Josephs

    OSWALD - FROM OUT OF THE COSMOS

    A quote from a Kelly post.... That it was Oswald in Dallas visiting Odio seems an accepted fact, which puts ACSI into the Mexico city deception...with Hoover at least.... And somehow with Phillips... No? http://jfkcountercoup2.blogspot.com/2017/02/acsi-xxxistant-chief-of-staff-for.html Brandy was from Dallas, and reported directly to General Rose at ACSI at the Pentagon. One of Brandy’s employees at the Havana Hilton, Manalo Ray, co-founded an anti-Castro Cuban group JURE with the father of Sylvia Odio, who Oswald and two Cubans visited after Oswald left New Orleans
  15. Hi: As a coda to the previous post, my lessons on integrity were learned before I ever heard of the radical left, and Uncles Ed, Noam, Howard, and Mike. As I digested their amazing work, Orwell came up a lot, and it was in Orwell’s work that I first read about how servile intellectuals are to the powerful, but it did not really hit home deeply until I studied for writing Ed’s biography, as I studied the insane attacks on him and Noam over the years, from leading academic and liberals. I had done it before, but never so intensively. A five-year-old could see through the “logic” of the assailants, but they could not seem to see how bogus their interested-conflicted “rational” opinions were. That was by no means a new realization, but as I studied for writing Ed’s biography, it hit home like never before how irrational the attacks were, and I realized that the vast majority of the attacks were not consciously dishonest, but they were all about protecting the hand that fed them, and it did not matter if it was an evil hand that slaughtered millions in the name of profit and power. All of today’s dominant ideologies are similar, with their well-paid “intellectuals” flacking for them. It really seems that all of those “smart” people are incapable of understanding how irrational, and ultimately dishonest, their attacks on people like Noam and Ed are, and it once again brings up Brian O’s question: Is humanity a sentient species? And if we are, does it mean much? My fellow travelers with my highest respect all drank the Kool-Aid, but they all eventually woke up. The imperial pundits will likely all go to their graves repeating their imperial mantras that don’t pass even cursory inspection. It is really something to see, and impinges directly on the integrity issue. But I am going to back up and cover the integrity issue via how I learned my lessons about it. Best, Wade
  16. There is something weird here. Either you did not read the title of the thread, or you have changed the course of the thread without changing its name. I am not deliberately doing anything other than asking some awkward questions about Edwin Walker's own 1961 published words, in a mainstream newspaper, which apparently you do not wish to address. That is your right and so is your right to ignore my questions. But please, don't accuse me of something which you are apparently doing yourself by claiming a de facto change of name of this thread. That is downright silly since it is what it is.
  17. Jim, Not being a photo expert is an excuse first used at the HSCA hearings not allowing Jack White to testify about the things he could demonstrate. It is used by folks that do not have a good argument concerning what they are saying such as the fellows other than yourself have said. Their arguments are generally silly refutation arguments. But, they do have an argument they hope people will pay attention to. Whenever you see straight lines involving the human figure in a photo you know you are dealing with a cutout. The human body does not have any straight lines. When you look at the last post on pixelization you can see straight lines in the hair, both sides, and on the ear. All in all, the pixelization argument is nonsense because the pixelization does not apply to all of the photograph. It applies only to the cut and paste areas. It may even be added to particularly on the forehead. On the picture right is a very sharp, distinct line demarcating the pixilization area from the rest of the photo.
  18. James DiEugenio

    5'10"

    Did Baker have a radio on his cycle?
  19. John Butler

    Witnesses to Window Shooters

    Tim Gratz, Others, I don’t want you to think I am bashing or debunking this thread. Your work and the work of some others is excellent research, with excellent ideas, and excellent writing. I have enjoyed this thread more than most because I have done work on what witnesses near the TSBD saw and heard. However, I going to offer this idea for your consideration. First off, I would like to say I am not a Lone Gunner. I am probably more radical in my thinking than most conspiracy theorists. What standard of proof should be used in this situation. I believe, since this was a murder, that the court standard of beyond a reasonable doubt should apply to what these witnesses are saying. It’s not whether the witnesses are telling the truth or not. It has to do with what standards applied to the evidence. J. Edgar Hoover said to President Johnson the evidence against Oswald is “not very, very strong”. Meaning, I would guess that the evidence was very, very weak. Chief Jesse Curry of the Dallas City Police said he could never place Oswald on the 6th floor with a rifle in his hand. There were others who said similar. It is my contention that in a court of law you can not prove that Oswald was in the Sniper’s Nest or that a shot was fired from there. This is contrary to what witnesses said. Other witnesses have said other things. It is enough to establish reasonable doubt. There are 7 witnesses that were the closest to the 6th floor Sniper’s Nest who made statements that could establish reasonable doubt. They were located on the 4th and 5th floors within 40 feet of the Sniper’s Nest. That is a distance that is about the same as the width of the average American home. 5th floor: Bonnie Ray Williams- Williams first said he heard 2 shots fired when the presidential limousine was in the Main and Houston Street intersection. At first, he didn’t mention where the shots came from. This changed during the course of making 4 statements to the FBI. When the FBI allowed him to stop, he said that 3 shots were fired as the limousine passed the TSBD. Harold Norman- Norman was always consistent in his testimony. 3 shots were fired after the limousine passed the TSBD. They came directly from above his position. In other words, shots came from the Sniper’s Nest. James “Junior” Jarman- At first, Jarman echoed Harold Norman’s testimony. But, he later he changed that when he spoke to Gerald Ford at the Warren Commission hearing in Washington, D.C. He said there that he heard shots fired from low and to the left. 4th floor- Victoria Adams- In a 11-24-63 statement to the FBI she said she heard 3 shots to the right of the building. This would be from the direction of the Grassy Knoll and the Triple Underpass. Sandra Styles- Said that she heard 3 shots that sounded like firecrackers and did not know where they came from. At a later date she said they came from the direction of the Grassy Knoll. Elsie Dorman- Said she heard 3 shots and they came from the Court Records building. Dorothy Garner- Said she heard 3 shots that occurred while the presidential limousine was under a tree and they sounded as if they came from the west. With all the other weak evidence against Oswald this is enough to establish reasonable doubt.
  20. John, I’ll have to double check on this when I have a little more time, but I think the photo of Oswald in the striped shirt above (labeled “Harvey Oswald”) was actually provided by John Pic, who identified it as his brother while saying he didn’t recognize the Bronx Zoo fellow. The chin does look a little strange to my untrained eye, but I’m no expert. Pic did say, I believe, that this was how his brother looked in NYC in 1952. Pic seemed to suspect that something weird was going on, but that's impossible to prove. When John Armstrong tried to interview him, he just said, "I stand by my Warren Commission testimony." Now, let’s go back to this photo that you presented on the last page…. As much as I admire DJ’s research skills, I don’t necessarily agree with him that the earlobe cutout is surely an anomaly caused by pixelation and generations of copies. It could be, I suppose, but I’m far from convinced. On the image above and on Jack White’s poster it appears to me that something else may well be going on there. I don’t know if that is very significant—in LHO lore the “Alfred of Cuba” photo is not very important, but I do agree that it is a very strange anomaly, almost suggesting something was cut out, but, like Steve, I've got to admit that I'm far from a photo expert.
  21. Hi Jason, Again, excellent work on Dallas FBI agent James Bookhout. I'll address your concerns by the numbers. 1. I mistrust Bookhout’s WC testimony from top to bottom. He cannot give clear answers to clear questions, because he has far too much to hide. 2. Bookhout will not share his hour by hour biography during the most important weekend in his career -- since he has too much to hide. 3. I categorically refuse to believe 90% of the words ascribed to Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) from his arrival at the Dallas Police HQ around 2:15pm on 11/22/1963 until he was killed there around 11:15am on 11/24/1963. *** Up to 90% of the words that Fritz, Hosty, Bookhout, Sorrels and Holmes claim that LHO said were fabricated in a plot led by Captain Fritz in the intervening months between the murder of LHO and this WC testimony. ***. Still, LHO's request for Attorney Abt was real. I say this because Ruth Paine testified to it, and I accept her word as terra firma in the case. (Ruth testified that LHO called her personally, and demanded that she contact Abt for him -- more or less like a paid secretary. She worried about his arrogant attitude -- a man facing a death sentence -- but she tried to contact Abt out of friendship for Marina. Abt was on vacation that weekend.) *** In my reading, the Radical Right "handlers" of LHO, who put him in this position, continually assured him that "everything would be all right" as long as he kept playing ball. LHO agreed to this. ***. The Radical Right "handlers" of LHO told him to contact Attorney Abt. It seems to me that LHO had no clue in the world who Attorney Abt was. He never heard of him. This was a "ruse", a secret plan for LHO to believe, to help secure his silence. It worked like a charm. ***. Again, LHO is unaware that Abt is a Communist. This was likely a joke being played on him -- certainly by John Birch Society members who kept abreast of such information -- members like General Edwin Walker. 4. Bookhout’s testimony of anything that happens in Fritz's office -- including personnel -- is intended to be fuzzy. It was scripted -- that is the only reason that we get whatever agreements we do get. The fuzziness lends itself to credibility, as they continually say, "I don't recall." 5. There are two personas of LHO that the JFK plotters attempt to portray -- the first is the cool, calm, calculating KGB agent, to impress the US Government. This second is the rude, insulting and vulgar criminal, to impress the US Public. 6. Bookhout probably remembers everything that happened during the 44 hours of keeping LHO in seclusion from the world until his assassin could be put into place. However, breathing a word of it would be fatal. His first strategy would be to say he didn't remember. His second strategy would be to stick to the script written by Captain Fritz and his team. 7. No, the news that Oswald was wearing a T-shirt and everybody else had jackets was annouced by many DPD witnesses. It was smoothed over by assurances. 8. YES! Hosty says Fritz asks about Mexico while Bookhout says Hosty asks about Mexico! Also, when you get to Harry Holmes' testimony, pay special attention to what *he* says about Mexico! It's unraveling! 9. It seems to me that Bookhout is projecting a calm Oswald in order to keep himself calm during his several hours of perjury. 10. The fiction of a bus/taxi in LHO's travel from the TSBD to Oak Cliff was invented by Fritz and his men (who "found" the bus ticket and the taxi driver, whose testimony falls apart like a house of cards). Yet it became mandatory for the Lone Nut theory, otherwise, LHO would be seen to have accomplices with cars to drive him around. 11. BRILLIANT LIST, Jason, of the scripted elements: (1) Oswald admits the Beckley address; (2) Oswald admits possession of pistol; (3) Oswald denies owning a rifle; (4) Oswald admits resisting arrest; (5) Oswald admits TSBD employment; (6) Oswald denies a lawyer; (7) Oswald denies Mexico City but admits Tijuana; (8) Oswald claims the backyard photos are fakes. That list will grow, as you will see. All best, --Paul
  22. Meryvn, This thread is currently and plainly focused on the Dallas Police, Deputies and other Officials in November, 1963. Your remarks about Bernald in 1961 in Germany are deliberately distracting to this focus. I am setting your Forum account to IGNORE. Everybody who wishes to contribute remarks about the Dallas Police, Deputies and other Officials in November, 1963, are invited to join. Sincerely, --Paul Trejo
  23. Hi: I was planning on making a post that takes a break from the integrity thread, but as I sat down to write it, I realized that it is an integrity post, or the lack thereof. I am reading Ian Morris’s books that Krishna mentioned, and so far, my conclusion is going to be, “not bad for a white guy.” Morris mentioned Steven Pinker’s The Better Angels of our Nature as the best book on the modern decline in violence. I found myself rereading Uncle Ed’s critique of Pinker’s book, and Ed, like Noam, was always notable for taking it easy on imperial hacks, usually arguing that they had so deeply imbibed their indoctrination that they were incapable of seeing how irrational their work was, and it took me many years to really understand what Ed was saying. We don’t need to invoke conscious dishonesty or a “conspiracy” when other dynamics produce the same results. But in Ed’s critique of Pinker’s book, Ed outright called Pinker’s work dishonest, and I can see why. I crunch numbers for a living, and have a pretty good BS detector for when people play games with the numbers to make them say what they want to. Ed showed how Pinker did that repeatedly in Better Angels, and when his statistical gymnastics actually failed to make his bogus points, Pinker then engaged in transparent sophistry to explain the data away. One of Pinker’s exercises in particular raised my hackles, when he attacked Lancet’s study in violent death in Iraq after the American invasion, and instead embraced the Iraq Body Count numbers, which were admittedly an undercount. Pinker raised the Main Street Bias issue, which a chorus of imperial hacks jumped on in the wake of the publication of Lancet’s study, which is considered the only statistically valid study of Iraq’s violent deaths, and it used best-practice methods. I studied the attacks on Lancet’s study in real-time, when they came out, and it was disgusting. It was just another bunch of imperial hacks trying to cover up genocide. Pinker is a Canadian at Harvard, and Morris is a Brit at Stanford, and both are, to a degree, bootlicking the USA. Morris much less so, but his praise of Pinker’s book is telling. Bill Gates and other “humanitarians” praised Pinker’s imperial valentine, and then took photo ops with people such as Paul Kagame. Gates’s IQ is a lot higher than mine, so “intelligence” does not seem to have much to do with embracing fraudulent work such as Pinker’s. When “intelligence” meets self-serving indoctrination, indoctrination almost always wins. That is not a high-integrity act. Even people such as Ralph McGehee took many years to wake up to the evil. These dynamics are a big part of why humanity has its toes over the edge of the abyss. Best, Wade
  24. Thanks Jason, you have answered my question with your last line. I happen to agree with Trump that the entire case against him is ridiculous. Furthermore that trail leads back to Obama and Clinton and from there to Cambridge University who began the process. Let us all recall that all of the "Commie Spies" came out of Cambridge University and that two of them were planted in Washington DC. Far from there being no Soviet plot, it was proven long ago and the primary spies fled to Moscow where they eventually died in exile. Behind the latest nonsense is MI6 and behind MI6 is the Crown (not Liz - she is just a mascot like Ronald McDonald or Mickey Mouse.) The British Crown licenses BBC broadcasts and it is to whom the UK Armed Forces swear allegiance to. The British court system is controlled by the Crown, and so are the police. There is no written constitution in the UK. Now let's look at what Edwin Walker actually wrote and why he wrote it, and then what he did. He accused Eugene Bernald of being behind the paper attacking him. Walker also stated that Radio Swan and Radio Elizabethville were CIA 'fronts'. They were. Then Walker resigned at cost to himself. No wonder the question of this 1961 article is being avoided like the plague and no wonder everything is being dismissed out of hand as a 'right-wing rant'. Before you have a go at me I do not support any political part or religious cause. I am a investigative journalist who is unravelling a continuing thread into the past.
  25. Bart Kamp

    Identification of individuals

    Bush man you heard it here first 😊
  26. Jim Hargrove

    OSWALD - FROM OUT OF THE COSMOS

    Thank you for bringing up William Kelly’s fascinating post from 2013. This is the first time I’ve read it. It is striking that the 12:48 description of the JFK assassin suspect was: “white male, approximately thirty, slender build, height five foot ten inches, weight 165 pounds.” Note how similar this is to the description of “Lee Henry Oswald” in the infamous Oct 10 1963 CIA cable: “Oswald is five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty five pounds….” Except for the age difference, only indirectly given in the CIA message, the description is identical. Could this be where that impossibly early description came from? The CIA cable was signed by Jane Roman (Angleton’s xxxistant), William Hood (also close to Angleton), Thomas Karamessines (xxxistant to Helms) and John Whitten who, according to Jefferson Morley, was the only CIA officer of the four signers who suffered any adverse consequences for this troubling cable. It is also interesting to compare the 12:48 police radio description of the JFK shooter with the 1:22 pm description of Tippit’s shooter: “White male, thirty, five eight, black hair, slender build, wearing white jacket, white shirt, dark slacks.” Interesting that both DPD radio descriptions listed the suspect as about 30 years old. Early researcher Leo Sauvage asked Dallas xxxistant District Attorney Jim Bowie whether a telephone call (by Julia Postal) had led to Oswald's arrest. Bowie told him there was a call from the cashier, but also that there were “Half a dozen calls!”
  27. David Andrews

    Identification of individuals

    Did I get the name wrong (H. H. Davis)? The guy in the natty, checkered sport coat with the soft shawl collar, which I'm sure put him in good with the ladies. In contrast, "Bush man" looks like he's in a suit jacket, and his hair is relaxed and down on the forehead. Sport coat man has hair swept up in front with a little Brylcreem hold to it. The resemblance was posited out in another, earlier thread, but I'm not made sure.
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