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  2. Cliff Varnell

    Max Boot gets Booted on Lansdale in Vietnam

    On 5/23/2018 at 2:37 PM, James DiEugenio said: But once Nhu began to attack the Buddhists, and once it became clear that his brother could not control him, his government was simply headed for a fall. <quote off> May 8, 1963. Hue, South Vietnam. Buddhist protesters crowded around a radio station when two explosions killed eight people. The Catholic Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong; the Buddhists.blamed Diem. JFK and the Unspeakable, James Douglass, pg 130-1 <quote on, emphasis added> Dr. Le Khac Quyen, the hospital director at Hue, said after examining the victim's bodies that he had never seen suchinjuries. The bodies had been decapitated. He found no metal in the corpses, only holes. There were no wounds below the chest. In his official finding, Dr. Quyen ruled that "the death of the people was caused by an explosion which took place in mid-air," blowing off their heads and mutilating their bodies... ...In May 1963, Diem's younger brother, Ngo Dinh Can, who ruled Hue, thought from the very beginning that the Viet Cong had nothing to do with the explosions at the radio station. According to an investigation carried out by the Catholic newspaper, Hoa Binh, Ngo Dinh Can and his advisers were "convinced the explosions had to be the work of an American agent who wanted to make trouble for Diem." In 1970 Hoa Binh located such a man, a Captain Scott, who in later years became a U.S. military adviser in the Mekong Delta. Scott had come to Hue from Da Nang on May 7, 1963. He admitted he was the American agent responsible for the bombing at the radio station the next day. He said he used "an explosive that was still secret and known only to certain people at the Central Intelligence Agency, a charge no larger than a matchbox with a timing device." . <quote off>
  3. Don Roberdeau

    "Bubble Top' - was it bullet proof?

    Good Day.... A quick addendum with respect to the presidential limousine, that may also focus-in on a key time-constraint and future JFK public appearances/locations constraints that were also forced-onto the conspirators plan's, timetable's, assassin's, operational technique's, etc. By 11-22-63, it is my understanding (Pamela, please correct me if I am wrong) that concrete Secret Service plans to have JFK's limousine permanently protectively bullet-proofed had been underway for many months. (as had been done long before that for each of the TWO limousines that F.B.I. Director Hoover used) On 11-22-63 the limo was already scheduled to start to undergo that bullet-proofing updating process within one month after Dallas. Best Regards in Research, +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepages Website: "Men of Courage": President Kennedy-elimination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html the Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses + Photographers locations, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, + Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... https://i.imgur.com/8vSS1dp.gif ( updated map, + new information ) Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll .... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://i.imgur.com/rfRH5jX.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in-garbage-out.... http://i.imgur.com/r8Ga26x.gif T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore Current Terrorism Alerts for the United States: http://www.dhs.gov
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  5. Cliff Varnell

    Who was QJ/WIN

    4. Operational assets 1) Personnel: QJWIN is under contract as a principal agent, with the primary task of spotting agent candidates. QJWIN was first contacted in 1958 through the Chief of the [redacted] by the Chief of Station [redacted] in connection with an illegal narcotics operation into the United States. For a period of a year and a half he was contacted sporadically by COS, [redacted], in behalf of the Bureau of Narcotics. Files of this Bureau reflect an excellent performance by QJWIN. ... Looks like QJWIN was more FBN than CIA. Dope smuggler. Can't throw a rock in this case without hitting one.
  6. Bart Kamp

    Anatomy Of A Second Floor Encounter

    Greg Parker recognised Marrion Baker in a tiny film snippet when Baker accidentally bumps into Oswald and his detail. It is from the eve on the 23rd. HERE
  7. Michael Clark

    "Bubble Top' - was it bullet proof?

    The likelihood of detecting such a conspiracy, even if it was called-off is very high, IMO. It is even more likely to be detected, if cancelled because there is less fear, the persecuting and investigating apparatus is place, the cover-up apparatus is not in place. I am increasingly convinced that it had to be Dallas, that day. Not Chicago, Not Tampa, Miami or anywhere else, or at any other time.
  8. James DiEugenio

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Rob: That scene I excerpted from the film Z is so cogent to what we are talking about. See, the white haired guy with glasses is trying to offer the prosecutor a way out. And he even says, that way we can preserve law and order. But the prosecutor, played by that wonderful actorJean- Louis Trintignant, decides against it. Now, compare that with what Warren did in his speech to the WC young lawyers about how they were going to proceed e.g. the Eisenberg memo and then the Hoover inspired Katzenbach memo. So the result was just the opposite of what we see above. Instead of challenging those in power, Specter, and Belin and the others coddled those in power and then subverted the average people who were trying to tell the truth and could have been used against the higher ups, e.g. Sibert and O'Neill, Malcolm Perry, Victoria Adams, Sandy Styles, Abe Bolden etc. That is how you run a cover up. You do not work from the bottom up, you subvert the pursuit of justice by playing pattycake with those at the top. I mean how could the WC be anything else, with Dulles and McCloy running things? Those guys kept on covering things up until 1967, with McCloy secretly consulting the CBS four night disgrace, and Dulles covertly running his agent Gordon Novel to spy on and subvert Garrison. (BTW, although I think this is Costa Gavras' best film, he also made a couple of other good ones in this time period: The Confession and State of Siege. Then he went to Hollywood and screwed up his career.) Another good example of how you crack a broad conspiracy is depicted in David Grann's book, Killers of the Flower Moon, about the unbelievable conspiracy to steal the money from oil drilling profits from the Osage Indian tribe. That plot utilized over a dozen murders, and also bribes, perjury etc. And it was all kept alive by local authorities, and when anyone wanted to try and do something, they were also killed. Finally, it got embarrassing for the just born FBI, bad publicity. Which Hoover did not get with the Warren Commission until later. So young J. Edgar sent a crackerjack FBI officer to the locale and gave him complete power over the inquiry. He cracked the case in about a year. This was mainly done by using the pyramid method I outlined above. Which was never contemplated, let alone attempted by the WC.
  9. James DiEugenio

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    DVP, at beginning of this thread: "Therefore, the dogleg was part of the motorcade route as of November 18th, otherwise the Dallas Morning News couldn't have printed the route in its paper on the morning of the 19th" My comment about five frames ago: "Now when I said the above about after the 19th, I was using your logic."  Since we now know it was not in the DMN after that on the 20th or 22nd. Case closed.
  10. David Von Pein

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Notice how Jim totally ignored (once again) the Dallas Times Herald 11/21 map that I posted yesterday. (Jim likes to rely ONLY on the Dallas Morning News, I guess. The Times Herald doesn't count at all evidently.) So, when we include the Times Herald of Nov. 21 (which Jim is avoiding at all costs), let's try to follow the Bouncing Motorcade Route from day to day.... --------------------------------- November 16 --- Main Street only (DMN). November 19 --- Elm Street turn (Both Dallas papers---the DMN and DTH). November 20 --- Main Street only (DMN).* * Presumed to show Main St. only. But I've never seen this paper, and I'm not sure Jim D. has either. I've just assumed the conspiracy theorists who have been saying for 50 years that the 11/20/63 DMN shows "Only Main Street" know what they're talking about. But, who knows? However, for the sake of this argument in this discussion, I'll give the CTers the benefit of the doubt and assume the Nov. 20 DMN does not say anything about a turn onto Elm Street or Houston Street (via a text description or a map of any kind). November 21 --- Elm Street turn (DTH). November 22 --- Back to Main Street only (DMN). November 22 --- Elm Street turn (via the actual motorcade route taken by JFK that day). --------------------------------- Now, it would require a massive amount of tortured logic to conclude that the above newspaper reports truly indicate that the motorcade route was actually changed back and forth a total of five different times over the course of a six-day period. The route was never changed, and these two items below---which are identical---prove that fact (IMHO).... November 19 --- Elm Street turn (Both Dallas papers---the DMN and DTH). November 22 --- Elm Street turn (via the actual motorcade route taken by JFK that day).
  11. Richard Price

    J Featherston information

    Thank you Kathy. With his background, I am surprised that I found so very little about him on the internet. Perhaps it has to do with fact that he died so long ago (in respect to the age of the internet), that is. Very interesting and informative. He seems to have been a very dedicated and distinguished journalist along with his other good traits. I think with this info we can pretty definitely say that if he had anything to do with the photos disappearing, he was not aware of his role. He seems to have followed his journalistic instinct and got as much info as he could on site and then tried to make sure the witness having evidence (if any) got to the police. There, like in so many other instances, the chain of evidence seems to go awry with the very people who are supposed to be trained to keep that chain unbroken.
  12. Rob Couteau

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Ha! Good old Costa Gavras and his riveting film "Z." He certainly wasn't controlled by Hollywood and its B.S. artists. Nice comparison, Jim. PS: Gavros still serves as president of the Cinémathèque Française, a wonderful institution.
  13. James DiEugenio

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    I think I have proved my case on this by the weight of the evidence. But its not conclusive. As I noted above, the only way you will ever get to the bottom of something like this is by confronting high officials with both their acts, and contradicting witnesses. And that could only be done with someone like DIck Sprague. And we saw what happened to him. But if you look at the utterly excellent film below, from about the 2:50 mark, you will see what should have happened.
  14. James DiEugenio

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Davey, this is what you said, in your usual bombastic style at the beginning of this thread: That's ridiculous, and Vince Palamara has to know it. The Houston-to-Elm dogleg was described in the November 19th Dallas newspapers, which makes perfect sense considering what I just said above about the route being officially announced on Nov. 18. Therefore, the dogleg was part of the motorcade route as of November 18th, otherwise the Dallas Morning News couldn't have printed the route in its paper on the morning of the 19th [as seen in CE1363]. Who does Palamara think he's kidding? Now, that is misrepresenting things because you only used the DMN of the 19th. Which is not the whole story at all. As I proved above. This is a very disturbing tendency of yours: cherry picking. Now when I said the above about after the 19th, I was using your logic. Since you were relying on the papers and public announcements. As i noted above, I do not think personally that this solves it. But Bellah's story supersedes your DTH story since it came after it. And I also fail to see how someone can be "wrong" about a personal experience. I do not have the story from DMN on the 20th. My files were given to Bill Davy.
  15. David Von Pein

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    They are wrong, certainly. But I don't think any of them are liars. But particularly Bellah's story is wrong. And provably so---via the 11/19 papers. (Unless, for some reason, Bellah wasn't provided the COMPLETE motorcade route until 11/21, which I guess is possible. But that doesn't prove the Elm dogleg WASN'T part of the original route. It would only indicate that some officers weren't privy to the full route until a couple days later.) BTW, Jim, do you have a copy of the Nov. 20 (Wednesday) DMN? I've always heard (including from you) that the route printed in that day's DMN showed no Elm turn. But I've never been able to find a copy of that paper online. Do you have it? If so, what exactly does it say re: the route? I'm just curious.
  16. David Von Pein

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Just exactly how did I "misrepresent" the various DMN stories, Jim? Please cite for that charge. Also.... Since you think the route was changed AFTER the 19th, then how do you account for the Times Herald including the Elm turn in its Nov. 21st edition [below]? This is the very same route published by this same paper on the 19th. Were the 2 Dallas papers getting their info from completely different sources? Is that what you believe?
  17. Chuck Schwartz

    Interesting piece on Texas Theater

    I think DAP was LHO's handler on the day of the assassination and it was DAP that told LHO to go to the Texas Theatre . Then, DAP told Earle Cabell (who we now know was a CIA asset) to have his police go to the Texas Theatre to arrest the assassin (LHO).
  18. Kathy Beckett

    J Featherston information

    Oct 19, 2000 "Featherston won Pulitzer, covered JFK James "Jim" Shoaf Featherston, 77, a retired Louisiana State University journalism professor who won a Pulitzer Prize in 1954 and later covered the Kennedy assassination in Dallas, died Thursday. Cause of death was not known, said a spokeswoman at LSU, where Featherston taught for 24 years until he retired in 1994 as a teacher of advanced reporting, editorial writing, and journalism ethics. He graduated in 1950 from Southern Methodist University and began his career in 1951 at the Vicksburg (Miss.) Post-Herald, where he was one of five reporters on a staff that won a Pulitzer for coverage of a devastating tornado. Featherston also helped cover the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the trial of Jack Ruby for the Dallas Times Herald, where he worked from 1962 to 1970. He was city editor of the Denton Record-Chronicle from 1960 to 1962. From 1954 to 1960, Featherston was a reporter and feature writer for the Jackson (Miss.) Daily News, covering the trial stemming from the lynching of black teen-ager Emmitt Till and the Little Rock, Ark., school crisis during the late 1950s. The Post-Herald's coverage of a Dec. 5, 1953, tornado that struck downtown Vicksburg, collapsing the roof of a movie theater, won the 1954 Pulitzer Prize for local deadline journalism. The newspaper, now the Vicksburg Post, was cited for outstanding coverage under extraordinary difficulties. "I've read that he was the night reporter ... and actually was helping dig some victims out of the rubble, as well as contributing to the paper," publisher Pat Cashman said. "It was very much a team effort by everyone," he said. Natural gas had been cut off, so the staff burned charcoal to melt lead for type. "They went around and got every sack of charcoal they could find. They developed pictures with water out of the gutter. "It really surprised people, I think, to have that paper delivered on time that morning," Cashman said. "It was the only way to get the information out. Born in Memphis, Tenn., Featherston attended public schools in Tennessee and Mississippi. He had a master's degree from East Texas State University. During World War II, Featherston flew 27 combat missions, most of them as a waist gunner on B-26 bombers over Germany." https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8457127/james-shoaf-featherston
  19. Chuck Schwartz

    "Bubble Top' - was it bullet proof?

    I recall listening to St. John Hunt on Coast to Coast. He said his father ( E Howard Hunt) told him that there was an assassination team waiting for JFK at the Dallas airport and that team had a plan to kill JFK as well- there seems to have been a great determination to have JFK murdered in Dallas that fateful day.
  20. James DiEugenio

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    BTW, the other tactic used by DVP above, showing the 11/19 story reveals another trait of his. He does not what he does not know. Including that he is licked. See, Freund wrote a story on the sixteenth, which said the motorcade would come down Main Street. Freund then printed the story above, on the 19th, that included the dogleg. On the 20th, the DMN changed it to the Main Street only directions. Then on the 22nd, it printed a map which only included the Main Street route. Therefore, if you go by the stories, which DVP originally misrepresented, the route was changed after the 19th. That would align with VInce's witnesses. Do I think that solves it? Nope. The only way you solve this thing conclusively, is the way a real criminal investigator does it. He confronts the people in authority with their own acts and with contradictory witnesses. That did not happen with the WC, since they were sops for the higher ups. But I do think the weight of the evidence does indicate the route was changed.
  21. Michael Clark

    "Bubble Top' - was it bullet proof?

    Not with rifles while he was driving through Dealy Plaza. That’s my feeling.
  22. James DiEugenio

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Davey, if you are saying they are all wrong, then what are you insinuating? Those witnesses were all clearly quoted by Vince. They all said there was a last minute change to the route. its pretty much straightforward. I mean I do not know how anyone can misconstrue them. For example, Bellah says someone came to his house on the 21st to personally escort him to the changed route. This was the night before. He then says he was never given an explanation as to why. Now if you say there was no changed route, and he says there was a change, and he knows this from his personal experience, then please explain to me what else the explanation could be? Was the witness suffering from dementia and Vince did not know he was in such a state? Did Vince pay him for the story? Did he want to make a name for himself? Please choose one or more of the above. To me, and to most others, the most logical observation is you think he is lying. I don't think the other explanations have much credibility, unless you can prove one of them. Which, as we know from past experience, you will not since you will not leave Indiana.
  23. David Von Pein

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    This is nothing but a blatant falsehood spouted by DiEugenio. I never once accused anyone of "lying" when it comes to this "Motorcade Route" topic.
  24. David Von Pein

    Who changed the motorcade route?

    Huh?? It doesn't show any such thing. The Main St. portion of the route is on this DMN map, plain as day.... Here's the complete DMN 11/22/63 front page.....
  25. Paul Brancato

    "Bubble Top' - was it bullet proof?

    Don’t you think it’s fair to assume that if the bubble top had been up there would have been no attempt to kill JFK?
  26. Rich Pope

    "Bubble Top' - was it bullet proof?

    No, the top of the presidential limousine was not bullet-proof.
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