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  2. Fred Litwin

    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Good point, Francois. Some of the people here just don't want to admit that Ferrie died of natural causes and that he had a full, complete forensic autopsy. And, yes, the brain was examined.
  3. Fred Litwin

    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Don't believe everything Jim DiEugenio says. My article was written long before there was any doubt on NAA. And my book is quite clear on the uses of NAA.
  4. Paul Baker

    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Not that old chestnut again, Jim. Just because NAA is something you don't understand, that doesn't make it junk science. NAA isn't junk science. It's a valid, reliable, sensitive and non-destructive analytical technique. This simple, truthful statement won't, of course, prevent you from spouting rubbish the next time you brush up against reality, I'm sure, but I felt compelled to repeat it. Still ignorant after all these years. Sigh.
  5. Today
  6. Bart Kamp

    Backyard Photographs

    In a telephone call between Marina Oswald and Harry Livingstone on July 3rd 1992 , Marina said that she did not take the BYP with the stairs to Lee's right. H.L.: The back yard photographs that you took? M.O.: Yes. H.L.: You did take some pictures, but....I think you told Larry Howard that you were standing underneath that stair way. Rather than... M.O.: In one position was the stairwell behind me. H.L.: Yeah. M.O.: And then we moved in front of the house. And the stairway was on the right from me. H.L.: Where it is now in the camera? In the pictures. M.O.: I don't know, is it on the right or the left? It was on the roght from me and on the left from Lee. H.L.: In the two different points of view. M.O.: Yes, What points of view or...? Two different positions. H.L.: Yeah. So... M.O.: 'Cause he told me to wait and then got something.....(inaudible). H.L: In the photographs we have, the camera is facing the stairway, the stairs are to the side but behind Oswald right? M.O.: No, that could not be. That picture I didn't take. H.L.: You did not take those pictures? M.O.: No.
  7. François Carlier

    I Was a Teenage JFK Conspiracy Freak

    Mister DiEugenio, This thread is about Fred Litwin's new book. Some members have mentioned David Ferrie's autopsy and you wrote that some pictures contradicted the forensic doctor's findings. I then asked you either to show us the pictures or to let us know where we can see them (via a web link or something). That's all. Instead of answering my simple question ("Where can we see the pictures ?") you keep asking me something else pertaining to JFK's autopsy (though I have never adressed that topic). Why ? Please let us all know where we can see the pictures that you mentioned. (After that, I can easily answer your questions about JFK's autopsy in another thread. It's easy).
  8. James DiEugenio

    Jim Garrison: The Beat Goes On

    That was one of the reasons Hoover did it. Because Garrison was showing him up by pointing out all the flaws in the Warren Report. Bill Turner later told me he recognized one of the guys who the FBI used to do the tapping.
  9. Joe Bauer

    Seth Kantor and Jack Ruby

    Did Blackie Harrison ever do his "just checking" drop in thing at Ruby's Carousel Club? Sounds like many Dallas cops and every male somebody in Dallas did so from time to time, including District Attorney Henry Wade. Seeing Jada and so many other beautiful strippers and getting a few free drinks at the same time must have been a real temptation for all those Texas boys. Former stripper at Ruby's Carousel Club "Satans Angel." "Angel was a seasoned performer when her agent sent her to dance at Abe Weinstein's Colony Club on Commerce Street, an area of downtown Dallas teeming with burlesque clubs. But the Colony was overbooked, so she switched to the nearby Carousel Club, owned by a man Angel's agent described as a wannabe "mobster type." Jack Ruby's Carousel was one stop amongst thousands, but Angel remembers its owner as a pudgy womanizer with slicked-back hair. "He hit on me for the first couple of days," she recalls. "I just told him, 'I'm going to be honest with you, you'll probably fire me over it.' Because you did not tell people that you were gay." But Ruby backed off. Angel fulfilled her contract and moved on to Kansas City. Six months later, she recognized the killer of Lee Harvey Oswald, JFK's assassin, as her one-time boss. She had witnessed Ruby's nasty fits of temper at the club. "He was kinda like a Jekyll-and-Hyde guy," Angel says. "One minute he was really nice and the next minute he wanted to pound your face into the cement." Back in those days, she says, despite the Bible-thumping, "Texas was wild." But as the '70s turned into the '80s, tastes and attitudes began to shift. "All the porn started coming in," Angel says. "Nobody was coming out to the clubs. You had to be more bizarre, you had to be more crazy. ... It got so nasty and filthy and disgusting, finally in 1985 I decided to quit."
  10. Ron Bulman

    The shot to TIPPIT's head

    I don't see any bullet hole in the head. The coup de ta in the head from Oswald?
  11. Ron Bulman

    Ice bullets

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  12. Paul Brancato

    Jim Garrison: The Beat Goes On

    It makes sense if the government knew the Warren Commission was wrong.
  13. Paul Brancato

    Ice bullets

    Cliff - if the frontal throat shot wizzed past Connolly’s left ear where does that put the shooter?
  14. Paul Brancato

    Ice bullets

    Never noticed the left hand pulling the tie.
  15. Ron Bulman

    Ice bullets

    22 hollow point from the front. No exit when shooting a rabbit, squirrel, or human throat. Bullet mushrooms and shards disperse from the edges. Shuts him up regarding what happens next. Pre autopsy x-ray. Pre autopsy surgery to remove bullet and fragments from entry wound and ensuing tracheostomy (along with other bullets/fragments elsewhere?). Open his eyes back up, somehow, the Priest in Dallas said they were closed. Bingo, you have the death stare photo with the butchered throat. Still wish Bob Prudhome was around to analyze the ballistics. I trusted his judgement.
  16. Keyvan Shahrdar

    JFK Autopsy Photo decoded?

    Was Dr. Humes lying when he said exactly that the bullet entered below and to the right of the EOP? Have you heard the video I posted here? Dr. Finck was there and he never contradicted Dr. Humes.
  17. Ron Bulman

    Seth Kantor and Jack Ruby

    I didn't read Kantor's book until after the 3rd printing in 1992. But for about 25 years I've had trouble now imagining Ruby in an all white Cowboy outfit emceeing a western swing band and crowd of dancers and drunks. Did it include a white cowboy hat and boot's? Like Boss Hawg on the Dukes of Hazard? Or the daddy of the father/son that put up the money for the run in Smokey and the Bandit? Known to be his own bouncer an outfit like that would have shown dirt or blood. He sold the Silver Spur in 1955, the new owner couldn't get a license and it shut down. From the Chicago Cowboy to demoing and selling Twist boards in 62-63 he was a hustler from the streets of the windy city.
  18. Micah Mileto

    JFK Autopsy Photo decoded?

    Was Dr. Finck lying when he consistently maintained that the wound was slightly ABOVE the EOP? I know either is indicative of conspiracy, but still.
  19. Ron Bulman

    Jim Garrison: The Beat Goes On

    It makes perfect sense in terms of power and control. Public execution of the new frontier. No matter how suspicious it seems, the Official finding, just a lone nut. No significant questioning by the corporate owned mass media. Any such is squashed.
  20. Rich Pope

    Ice bullets

    I would like to make a point that may not fit with this thread. We all know JFK was a womanizer. But think of the women he chased. They were not only beautiful, they were incredibly intelligent and politically savvy. Maryln Monroe and Mary Pinochet Meyers for example. JFK not only enjoyed the physical aspect of the relationships, he cherished the mental stimulation he received. Marylin Monroe was even quoted for saying the sexiest part of a person was their mind. It's no wonder both of these women were murdered. JFK couldn't resist sharing ideas with them not to mention they kind of looked alike.
  21. Yesterday
  22. Cliff Varnell

    Ice bullets

  23. Rich Pope

    Ice bullets

    The frame is good enough to show it was a frontal shot. Not to mention the through and through hole in the front windshield of the limo. Remember, there was no bullet proof glass on this car so that theory goes out the window. The right fist is the closest to the entry wound on the throat. See the autopsy photo showing the tracheotomy. The left fist doesn't make it and if more over his upper chest. Keep in mind that a shot from the 6 floor, downward sloping would never change directions and exit throat near the knot of the tie at an upward trajectory. Physics prevents this completely. Also remember key frames in the Z-film were removed so using it as the ultimate source of information my be risky at certain frames. And Governor Connally is still holding his Stetson, so he hadn't been hit in the wrist yet. Like I said in previous posts. I'm no longer interested in what happened as I am as in why it happened. At first, I wanted to destroy everything in my brothers "1963 box" and never have to worry about it again. Instead, It's locked away, only I can get to it and sadly enough, I never leave my house. If anyone rings the doorbell or knocks on the door, I just pretend I'm not home. So I'm a hermit but I'm a hermit at peace. The only way any authority figure would get the info from me is if they agree to "sheep dip" me and I vanish in the night. Until then, let all these JFK researchers pluck away on their typewriters/computers. It's all in vain. Their only reward is their ego.
  24. Michael Cross

    Ice bullets

    Cliff, as I said I may be wrong. Likely even. But look at the height of JFK's right elbow. It's at least ear height. That's not a normal position, which is why I've thought it's a reaction to the force of the back shot. I don't have time to look at earlier frames right now to make the comparison. If I have time later I will, just to illustrate what I see.
  25. Cliff Varnell

    Ice bullets

    Agreed. His hands were coming up before "the back shot"? Michael, my rule of thumb is to rely on the historical record. Secret Service SA Glenn Bennett wrote contemporaneous notes which are corroborated by the photographic and physical evidence. Bennett said he was looking to the front when he heard the first shot; the Willis 5 (Z202) photo shows him facing to the right in the follow-up car. He said he then turned to look at "the Boss"; Altgens 6 (Z255) shows his features blurred, consistent with movement. He said he saw JFK hit in the back "four inches down from the shoulder"; the bullet defects in JFK's clothes are four inches below the collars. The back shot occurred right before the head shot, Bennett stated. Contemporaneous written statement by a professional with 3 points of corroboration.
  26. Michael Cross

    Ice bullets

    No one can be certain of anything being discussed in this thread. No certainty. Having said that, the frame pictured always seemed to me to be the back shot. Hands were coming up, back shot impacts, elbows raise. I'm not certain of that of course. Best guess.
  27. Cliff Varnell

    Ice bullets

    Defensive posture. He holds his fists in a manner to prevent getting hit from the same location. Occam's Razor -- what's the most likely explanation for a man acting paralyzed? He's paralyzed.
  28. Rich Pope

    Ice bullets

    Right fist reaches throat, left fist just below.
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