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  2. John, I see what you’re getting at. Not only are there problems with the physical appearance of Oswald in many of these photos, there are also direct indications that the photos themselves were altered, sometimes fairly crudely. The clipped earlobe in the “Alfred of Cuba” photo at top, for example, is a dead giveaway, though I hadn’t noticed it before. The nose does look large in the Bronx Zoo photo, but the direct sunlight on it and not on his face immediately around it could, I suppose, cause the image to “bloom.” His neck is also much thinner than in other pictures. (John A. points out that this is a constant difference between "Harvey" and "Lee.") There is also no doubt that John Pic testified that the Bronx Zoo Oswald didn’t appear to be his brother. I assume you’re seeing some other evidence of fakery in the zoo photo. What is it?
  3. Trygve V. Jensen

    Identification of individuals

    Thank you, - appreciate it. 1 : Yes, - was wondering about who the other person is. 3: I was wondering if to include the word "purportedly", - as I recognize a very similar looking young boy, from very familiar footage from outside Parkland Hospital. (The source of the images, - just never include Parkland, in the description of whereabouts. It does say TSBD. ) 4: Thanks. The policeman being H.W. I do not know, - if correct information. 5: Was curious about this one. Only appears very very briefly, - seemingly knocking at a door, (Camera zooming in, and away). 6: Yes I saw this footage the other day (him being led out (it seems), - in the middle of a big crowd), - as well as footage looking down on a police-officer (alone, (do not know if it is westwards/northwards or what)) the other day.
  4. To bring it full circle... I wanted to understand the FBI's reach in Mexico City... Turns out that ALL the evidence related to Oswald's trip came thru one person... an FBI asset at the Gobernacion who had been one for quite some time... his name appears virtually nowhere... I've mentioned him a few times but have decided to keep it under wraps until I edit my Mexico work... He had the FM-11, FM-8, Hotel registry, bus tickets and manifests and luggage lists - all picked up by "Presidential staff" within hours of the assassination. As I continued I found the 20+ Mexican informants which SA PECK questioned... so I followed that path to how those Informants would have been created.. it goes back to the SIS and how the Intel networks which would ultimately be turned into FBI local support... IOW Hoover's private intel army.. I don't think people can appreciate the depth of Hoover's reach throughout the entire world... granted he was no Dulles brother or Harriman... but he was not without his means...
  5. David Josephs

    How did the conspiracy to kill JFK start?

    I'll have to disagree respectfully Jim... The Oswald Project could have simply been his expanded involvement with infiltration of left/right groups... His role was to appear in support of CASTRO, represent the FPCC and ID those in New Orleans who supported them... to connect that activity to the JFK conspiracy, is to me a bit of a stretch. I don't see it - the conspiracy to kill JFK - "STARTING" in April of 1963... but in a room where those most affected by his policies and politics would decide they could 1) pull it off as they had elsewhere in the world; 2) insure a guilty party is identified and killed; 3) cover it up as so many similar projects had been... To me, this screams of the JCS concerned with the new young president giving away the country to the Soviets... and his stopping of the 8+ years of planning to hit first and ask questions later... (which is why "American Intelligence" is an oxymoron ) Only the Military could have ensured BETHESDA was secure... without Bethesda, the cover-up gets infinitely more difficult... My $.02 =================== Alvarado... from a finally redacted memo (as I mentioned and promised) Another potential Phillips Asset was was Pedro Gutierrez Valencia who claimed "OSWALD" got into a car with an Hispanic just outside the Cuban Consulate.... https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Pedro_Gutierrez_Valencia_Allegation.html
  6. Bart Kamp

    Identification of individuals

    1. w rifle is Carl Day 2? 3 is at Parkland, there is a shot taken from their front with the kid crying and with Malcolm Couch behind him. 4 Lumpkin and possibly Sorrels on the left. 5.? 6? The guy in the centre was taken away. There is footage taken from the TSBD pointing down when he is being taken away. This group on FB discusses these matters and Dennis Morissette has several sites up regarding this https://www.facebook.com/groups/780923448613656/
  7. Clive Largey

    Noam Chomsky needs an Intervention

    NSAM 111 fits the bill but Chomsky never refers to it or any other literal document each time he talks or writes about Reagan attempting to emulate Kennedy, that's why I believe it's just an example and similar to saying "JFK wrote the book on how to get away with it". What was he getting away with? An attack on freedom, ability to self rule and independance free of the US. This is what Chomsky preaches, that this is what it's all about, Vietnam, Cuba, Columbia, etc, even the complete cold war(to put Russia back where it belongs in the third world he says), leaving these people to go their own way would be a complete disaster for US power, wealth and dominance. They'd set bad examples to others and Vietnam surrounded as it is by so many other countries could not be allowed to succeed, it had to be crushed and repeatedly punished to set a good example to those looking on. Perhaps I am confused a little but you have said that JFK knew that Vietnam was about independance, he said as much and got critized for it, I assumed you were talking about the same independance that Chomsky is and I still do, the independance of the real people of Vietnam not the US puppets in the south. So could you provide the evidence for me? I did try reading the 1957 speech but I didn't get very far, it's so long and about a conflict I know nothing about but from what I gathered from scanning it, I think you're correct, so I'd like to see the Vietnam examples. Chomsky would probably have JFK completely withdrawing all support for the Diems, from the very start and making sure that the real Vietnamese got every xxxistance it needed to become a successful union and great friend of the US. Treason.
  8. Very interesting Gene... I too have delved into the history of "Intelligence" which in turn leads to things like "National Sovereignty" and even farther back to the concept of personal ownership rights and the Tragedy of the Commons. One thing that seems an oversight is mention of the first intelligence agency outside the military to perform intel gathering and network generation outside the US.. From the initial chapter of the Mexico City articles: One should note that prior to the 1947 creation of the CIA, the FBI’s Special Intelligence Service (SIS) was specifically responsible for Intelligence gathering in the Western Hemisphere from 1941 thru 1946 along with existing Military Intelligence entities with acronyms, like MID (Military Intelligence Division) & ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence). The SIS story begins on 26 June 1939, with Roosevelt signed a Presidential Directive stating: It is my desire that the investigation of all espionage, counter-espionage, and sabotage matters be controlled and handled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation of the Department of Justice, the Military Intelligence Division [MID] of the War Department, and the Office of Naval Intelligence[ONI] of the Navy Department. The Directors of these three agencies are to function as a committee to coordinate their activities. (Presidential Directive of 26 June 1939; Section 2; File 64-4104; Administrative Records of the SIS; RG 65; NACP.) FDR clarified his position on June 24, 1940: He ordered that "The FBI should be responsible for foreign-intelligence work in the Western Hemisphere, on the request of the State Department," while "The existing Military Intelligence and Naval Intelligence branches should cover the rest of the world, as and when necessity arises." President Roosevelt concluded his directive by observing how "It was understood that the proposed additional intelligence work should not supersede any existing work now being done...." https://vault.fbi.gov/special-intelligence-service (Memorandum of President Roosevelt's telephone directive prepared by Adolf A Berle and approved by the President, 24 June 1940; Section 2; File 64-4104; Administrative Records of the SIS; RG 65; NACP.) Berle became a professor of corporate law at Columbia Law School in 1927 and remained on the faculty until retiring in 1964. He is best known among economists and corporate law specialists for his groundbreaking work in corporate governance. His book, The Modern Corporation and Private Property, which he co-authored with economist Gardiner Means, remains the most quoted text in corporate governance studies. Berle and Means showed that the means of production in the U.S. economy were highly concentrated in the hands of the largest 200 corporations, and that within the large corporations managers controlled firms despite shareholders' formal ownership. (DJ: the book is quite amazing in that in 1930 he shows how "CORPORATIONS" by their very existence allow for the very few to control the many... he says the 200 companies that owned mostly everything at that time would only shrink until a small handful of the hugest conglomerate corporations are left, owning and dictating globally...)
  9. Instead of derailing a different thread; Just out of curiosity, - I was wondering if anyone have input on the identity (or specific points of interest / significance if any) of individuals (both familiar, and less familiar), in following images from the immediate aftermath of the assassination: 1: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4: ( Labeled as Harry Weatherford ) . ( I've read about the roof - story, - as well as the not-on-roof-story ) . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5: --------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 :
  10. Chris Davidson

    Swan-Song -- Math Rules

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22692-swan-song-math-rules/?do=findComment&comment=372597 100ft / 3.294ft per sec (z161-z166) = 30.358... sec x 16fps = 485.73 total frames 486frames/18.3fps = 26.557 sec 30.358... sec - 26.557... sec = 3.8 sec x 16fps = 60.8 frames z100 + 60.8 frames = z161= start the data input. P.S. 3.292ft x 100 = 329.2 ft = the Station# beginning data entry for z161.
  11. David Josephs

    Swan-Song -- Math Rules

    Awesome work Chris
  12. DJ No problem. As an outfall of my study of the JFK case, I also developed an interest in CIA and intelligence history. The earliest form of today's CIA - the Office of the Coordinator of Information - was begun by President Roosevelt (after Pearl Harbor) to streamline the collection of the intelligence during WW II. Their original charter was to conduct unconventional warfare, with a large $10 million budget and 600 staff, some of which was moved under the Joint Chiefs of Staff to better support the military. This became the OSS in 1942, whose title reflected the importance of ‘strategy’ in intelligence gathering and clandestine operations. There were inter-government tensions and rivalries (that persisted for many years), and General MacArthur and Admiral Nimitz kept OSS from operating against Japan, while FBI and Navy intelligence protected their domestic counterintelligence work. OSS was disbanded in 1945 and CIA soon followed, independent of (but hidden within, to your point) the Department of State and the armed services. Allen Dulles originally headed covert operations (i.e. euphemistically referred to as "Plans") and took over the leadership of an Agency with a heavy focus on the conduct of paramilitary operations (i.e. regime change) ... which is (imho) what we saw occur ten years later in Dealey Plaza. CIA has always been difficult to separate from the military, and its primary mission seems to be paramilitary operations (not necessarily intelligence gathering). Their track record is not pretty, supporting fascists (in Greece under George Papadopoulos), militarists (in Chile under Gen. Augusto Pinochet), murderers (in the Congo under Joseph Mobutu); death squads (El Salvador) and religious fanatics (Muslim fundamentalists in Afghanistan). CIA helped destabilize governments in Vietnam, Iran, Indonesia, South Korea, Latin America, Lebanon, Afghanistan, and Iraq ... quite a legacy. In contrast to the British system, the OSS established a tradition of putting analysts and operatives in the same organization. In Weiner's "Legacy of Ashes", William Colby is quoted as describing the bifurcated culture within the Agency - the scholars of the research and analysis division, and the spies of the clandestine service - as "separate, unequal, and contemptuous of each other." Weiner - who drew the book's title from an Eisenhower metaphor - argues these cultures never learned to work together. Eisenhower told Allen Dulles upon leaving office in 1961: "Nothing has changed since Pearl Harbor ... I leave a legacy of ashes to my successor." Some would ague that CIA did not fulfill its original Cold War charter of understanding the Soviet Union's true intent, with estimates of Soviet strategic capability consistently overstated, resulting in an expensive and dangerous arms race. Major events and intelligence failures have historically grown a large intelligence infrastructure. The National Security Agency was created in 1952 to overcome a failure to place spies in North Korea during the Korean War. The Bay of Pigs in Cuba led the Pentagon to create a Defense Intelligence Agency in 1962. U2 flights and reconnaissance led CIA and Air Force to consolidate the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). In the aftermath of the 911 attacks, we now have over 16 separate agencies under the aegis of Homeland Security ... only one of which is CIA. In 2013, Edward Sowden provided a glimpse of the scope of the US national Intelligence Program ($53 billion). In summary, the CIA as it existed in 1947-1959 (when the Oswald project came to fruition) seems light years ago. By 1963, Allen Dulles was already outdated and out of favor. And to your point, I see CIA in 1963 as very much in competition with FBI, the Pentagon and a myriad of other intelligence groups. They were not the only game in town. Gene
  13. Chris Davidson

    Swan-Song -- Math Rules

    Limo on film starts at z133. Data entry (CE884) starts at z161. Why? Because one frame rate must eventually catch up with the other. Limo on film should start with z100 corresponding to StationC. Difference between z100 and z161 = 61 frames.
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  15. Chris Davidson

    Swan-Song -- Math Rules

    More of the removal process: Jump 33 frames. Remove 30.2ft (no WC data provided): Station# 329.2 (z161) - 299.0 (z133) = 30.2ft 30.2ft/33frames = .915ft per frame Converted to whole frames: .915 x (18/18.3) = .9ft per frame = Shaneyfelt = 11.2mph Throw in Myers 9.8mph average to sync: .9ft per frame x 16fps = 14.4fps/1.47(1mph) = 9.8mph http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22692-swan-song-math-rules/?do=findComment&comment=374647
  16. Kirk Gallaway

    Fire Me?

    As I said, JFK wanted Lovett as Secretary of Defense, but Lovett was 22 years JFK's senior and was in the process of retiring from public service. A little background on Lovett: Lovett married into the New York Brown banking family that, in 1931, would merge to become Brown Brothers Harriman. He was appointed Secretary of War for Air by FDR and oversaw the expansion of the American Air force in WW2 at the same time John J. Mc Cloy was appointed General xxxistant Secretary. President Truman refused to accept the resignation of both Lovett and McCloy when they and Harvey Bundy (father to Mac George Bundy) gave their resignations in September 1945. Given ties to Mac Cloy, his marriage into the Brown family and eventually his career at Brown Brothers Harriman. Lovett is about as "Eastern Establishment" as you can get. Later Lovett was a hawk and a very big proponent of getting increased budget spending for the the Korean War. The exploits of Lovett, Harriman, and Mc Cloy were detailed in a book by Walter Isaacson and Evan Thomas called "The Wise Men" along with Dean Acheson, Charles Bohlen, and George F. Kennan as members of the East Coast Policy Establishment. Five of the six were from the so-called "Georgetown Set". Acheson, Harriman, and Lovett had known each other since their days in prep school and in college and Wall Street. Of course, as we know JFK craftily tried to "outhawk" Nixon during the presidential debates. Certainly on the surface, when you add Mac Namara Head of Ford Motors and Dillon's long time connection to John Foster Dulles, It doesn't appear there was anything related to Kennedy's choice or attempted choice of his pertinent cabinet positions that made you think that there was anything else in the offing than the international banking elites promoting the prevalent cold war paradigm. To those seeking parallels to the current political times, JFK could hardly be said to be like Trump and "bring us new people we've never heard of to drain the swamp in Washington". Does that mean Trump is even more likely than JFK to be assassinated?-------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------Pfff!---------Ha ha ha
  17. Well, let me try this again. Many photos involving alleged Oswalds have been altered. If the altered figures were not an Oswald character or a member of the Oswald Project then why alter the photo? James Pic said he would not recognize this youth as his half brother Lee Harvey Oswald. It is not Harvey because of the wide nose. So, who? Can you see what is wrong with this photo? What is present that kills the reality of the photo? What makes this photo a lie?
  18. James DiEugenio

    Fire Me?

    For those who are not aware of the Hardway essay on the subject. To me, this is the best analysis of it I have seen: http://realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com/2015/10/dan-hardway-rebuts-shenons-assertion.html
  19. James DiEugenio

    Fire Me?

    No one knows who RFK suspected of killing his brother. Simply because there is no written record of such a thing. And there is no credible instance where he expressed his refined thoughts about it to a trusted source. There is credible evidence that he did suspect a powerful domestic rightwing conspiracy that was in opposition to his brother's aims in foreign policy. This was in the message to Walton to get to the Soviets within about a week of JFK's murder. IMO, a taped phone call which RFK likely knew was being monitored is not any evidence of one thing or another. But, Dan Hardway did come up with interesting evidence that Johnson and his pals tried to transfer the blame for him placing Dulles on the WC to RFK.
  20. Jim Hargrove

    How did the conspiracy to kill JFK start?

    As far as "Lee Harvey Oswald" is concerned, the plot began in earnest on April 23, 1963. This isn't difficult.... If you are going to kill a sitting American president, you have GOT to have a designated patsy. If you don’t, the search for you will be relentless, and you eventually will be apprehended no matter how well you cover your tracks. The designated patsy, at least for the specific assassination project that succeeded on 11/22/63, went by the name “Lee Harvey Oswald.” For no apparent reason whatsoever, “Lee Harvey Oswald” moved from Dallas back to New Orleans on April 23rd and 24th, 1963, but Ruth Paine invited Marina to stay with her in Texas. In New Orleans, “Lee Harvey Oswald” quickly adopted the role of a pro-Castro Communist sympathizer, although in actuality he was working with Guy Banister and other virulent anti-Communists. Nevertheless, the charade was necessary so the designated patsy could be depicted as a tool of Fidel Castro. The primary purpose of the assassination, I think, was to provoke an invasion of Cuba, which might have happened had LBJ not intervened and convinced Earl Warren to preside over a massive cover-up. Significant portions of the Federal government took major steps to clear the way for LHO’s patsification when, on Oct. 9, 1963, the FBI cancelled the “WANTED NOTICE CARD” on LHO, effectively removing FBI and Secret Service surveillance of LHO during President Kennedy’s visit to Dallas. One day later, on Oct. 10, the CIA issued a memo about “Lee Henry Oswald” with mostly accurate biograpic details about LHO essentially giving him a clean bill of political health, despite his so-called “defection” to the Soviet Union just a few years earlier. The plot was now in full swing.
  21. Sorry Steve, I thought at first you were pulling my leg. Neither of these characters have what you would call smiling eyes. However, the figure on the picture left is a Lee Harvey Oswald character. I was interested in seeing if other people saw what I see in this photo. The challenge was to identify this Oswald figure on the picture left as Lee Oswald, Harvey Oswald, or someone else. At this point no one has taken up the challenge. That's sad. I believe folks might be thinking well, he's pulling something fishy. Well, I am. I'm trying to see whether people see this picture as fraudulent. No one has in over 54 years. Jack White said years ago if Lee Harvey Oswald was not a government agent why then are some many of his photos altered. So, anyone care to take a guess?
  22. Hi: Every organism does its best to survive, and that is the root of the integrity issue. “Look out for Number One” is the overriding biological imperative. All life had to reproduce to exist, and sexual-partner and parent-offspring relationships are the key ones in the journey of complex life. Caring for one’s offspring created social bonds, and likely goes way back. The females often carried the bulk of such duties, and males had a wide range of roles, and sometimes became primary caretakers of the offspring. Social animals became social because of the benefits that sociality accrued, and mammals, with internal fertilization and the investment that females make, from gestating to nursing their offspring, creates the closest parent-offspring bond in the animal kingdom. Simians are highly social and brainy, and intelligence, sociality, and evolution are key issues today among scientists who study simians and the path to humanity. Marginal monkeys left the trees and became apes, and marginal apes left the rainforest and became humans. Bipedalism, toolmaking, and the rapidly expanding brain are key aspects of becoming human. A prominent speculation is that the human line began pair-bonding when Homo erectus appeared on the evolutionary scene, and life revolved around the campfire, where meals were prepared (and pair-bonding also likely reflects when paternity became understood). Just when fire was controlled, and made the hearth possible, is a lively controversy today. In studying hunter-gatherers, scientist think that the “golden rule” was an ideal in the earliest Homo sapiens, and may go back further. That ideal of fair treatment is the heart of the integrity issue with humans. That ideal only applied to the society, however, and out-groups have been fair game for the entirety of the human journey, and it was always economically mediated. With the “flexible” human conscience, people justified eating their children in hard times. The “good times” of the human journey were always the early days of exploiting a new energy resource, when people could afford to be magnanimous, but those golden ages always ended when the easy energy did. I was raised in the most golden of ages, and I have witnessed the decline as the easy energy ran out. I am currently reading a book that argues that “productive war,” which was when the out-group was not simply slaughtered but brought into the society (as lower-ranking members, of course, often as slaves), is how humanity has become more peaceful over the millennia. I’ll report on it later, along with other books by that author, but I have long written that the first civilization saw radically different social organization, along professional lines instead of kin lines. Social organization radically changed with the next Epoch, when fossil fuels were exploited, as the level of energy use largely determined the social organization. Understanding how we got to be this way can greatly help for understanding where we can go when the next Epochal energy source becomes publicly available, but the level of personal integrity (how others are treated) that we have today is what we have to work with, and my days with Dennis comprised a real-world laboratory for learning about the integrity issue. It was a lab like no other, as the perils and temptations of the free energy pursuit are like nothing else on Earth. Everybody will tell you that they have integrity, even psychopaths. It is just how large their in-group is. For a psychopath (AKA dark pather), it is an in-group of one, for a Jesus, the in-group was all of Creation. For the rest of us, it is somewhere between those poles. Best, Wade
  23. Fair enough Gene... sorry if I sounded authoritarian or some such thing... I have my own thought on the OSS/CIA creation which involves acknowledging it was the Military's intelligence arms which really wanted the anonymity... Creating the OSS/CIA puts all the focus on the watchdog and none on the master... ONI/MID are the oldest intelligence units in the US... I simply have a difficult time accepting that career military men would allow that arm of their arsenal to be superseded by another "agency" Case in point is the JFK case and Oswald... that ONI and MID, etc were not the focus of the investigation, their intel and documentation is probably the most thoroughly combed thru batch of info we can find... if we can even find it. RUFUS TAYLOR - it seems, is arranging to create a sanitized version of Oswald's file as well as replace the existing "Case History File" with a different one.... I believe in the grand scheme - that ONI and I&NS were much more involved than we see in the available evidence... DJ There is an ONI notebook at Baylor from John... There is a 100 page "Enclosure A" and an 81 page "Enclosure C" I believe I found in Weisberg's Hood archives....
  24. Bart Kamp

    Dealey Plaza UK Canterbury Seminar 2018

    Thank you Barry. I have added the specific venue at the UNI I had omitted that.
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