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  2. Robert  Harper

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    Just linked by Bart K- As discussed in my essay Gerald Hill and the Framing of Lee Harvey Oswald (here), there is very good reason to believe that DPD Sgt. Gerald Hill framed Oswald for the murder of DPD officer J.D. Tippit by pretending to remove the gun most likely used to kill Tippit (WCE 143) "
  3. Cliff Varnell

    Max Boot gets Booted on Lansdale in Vietnam

    Interesting information on William Corson: David Talbot, The Devil’s Chessboard, pgs. 753-4 <quote on> William Corson, a former Marine Corps officer and Navy intelligence agent who was close to Dulles, confirmed that the spymaster pulled strings to get on the Warren Commission. He “lobbied hard for the job,” recalled Corson, who had commanded young Allen Jr. in the Korean War. After he took his place on the commission, Dulles recruited Corson to explore the Jack Ruby angle. After spending months pursuing various leads, Corson eventually concluded that he had been sent on a wild goose chase. “It is entirely possible I was sent on an assignment which would go nowhere…Allen Dulles had a lot to hide. <quote off> Corson had been recruited by Kennedy to find out who ordered the assassination of Diem and Nhu -- did Dulles send Corson on a wild goose chase to prevent him from investigating who killed Kennedy? Allen Dulles was Averell Harriman's personal lawyer for decades. Perhaps Dulles was trying to keep Corson from drawing the same conclusion about the Kennedy assassination that he did with the Diem murder -- Harriman ordered it.
  4. Robert  Harper

    Trump and the Unspeakable? Part II

    Most recently , as Joan Mellen discovered, Clay Shaw was a "highly paid"CIA assest. Helms and Shaw lied under oath about this. Shaw was on the Board of Permindex. Permindex was owned by CMC of Rome, which was founded by a Hungarian Jew named George Mandel who had deep connections with Israel and the Mossad. The Stern family funded Clay Shaw’s defense. The Stern family owned WDSU radio and TV stations in New Orleans (which broadcast Oswald's "interview") and prior to JFK’s assassination, they ran stories on Lee Harvey Oswald denouncing him as a member the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. They did not tell the people of New Orleans that this was an FBI front group. This gave Oswald the cover of being a Leftist while spying on American liberals. The Stern family was heavily invested in the NUMEC nuclear plant in Pennsylvania, which was the source of Israel’s first nuclear bomb. The London Jewish Chronicle denounced President Kennedy’s UN delegation position that displaced Palestinians had the right to return to the land that Israel had illegally taken from them during the 1948 war. The Jewish Chronicle published this in London on November 22, 1963. So, as a response to David Joseph's objection, I don't think anything has been shown to "debunk" these queries about Israel's possible participation in any US government intelligence operation. Information was withheld; the "unspeakable" was not mentioned. I also draw attention to recent comments by Noam Chomsky who reminds us that sometimes it can appear to be the tail wagging the dog, but such can be another form of a false flag. It is the dog that gets the money and gives the money. Who benefits, Chomsky asks, from this unspeakable exchange about Israel? The 10 million a day for "defensive use weapons"and other needs, go to the people making the planes and tanks and missles and bullets. There is a LOT of money in that business. Tha'st why there are so many middle men involved in arms transfers; that's why the scheme in Iran Contra used the US intelligence apparatus which used the Israeli apparatus, to give arms to the Iranians, and then bill the US again. No wonder there was 2 trillion "lost"at he Pentagon on 9/11. Nothing should be off limits when searching for truth. My reference earlier in this thread to the Nazi influence in America's ruling class is not incidental to the concept of the unspeakable. Operation Paperclip (2014) relates how certain Americans - including John McCloy and Allen Dulles of the Warren Commission, brought Nazi scientists to America along with Nazi intelligence officers, so that America could make use of their "ability" to make rockets and their"insights" into the communists. Not much attention was paid to their morality or their decision making process regarding moral judgment. It was "economic self-interest of the half-baked variety -- concern for the economic gains guided by the "invisible hand" of the marketplace, yet devoid of any concerns for the underlying principle of exchange - the moral evaluation by the "impartial spectator" of any action. When people think of economic security or econmic upheavals, it is not unwise to think of Adam Smith's two imaginary friends from the 18th century: the behind-the-curtain-hand and the sitting-out-front-neutral-spectator. Is it any surprise that Eichmann's division was called "The Economic Department of the SS?"
  5. Reading this long thread is so frustrating. Every one of the CIA wannabes Trejo mentions worked for real CIA agents in real CIA operations. They were contracted by CIA. So when Trejo says they weren’t actual CIA agents it’s a distinction without meaning. All of the operatives, all of the CIA agents involved, all of the Dallas cops and Dallas officials were right wing, some very right wing. So another distinction without meaning is what Trejo calls ultra right. Some were in government, some in the military, some in CIA, and some were cops, or civilians, or ex military. Why limit the term ultra right to cops, civilians, and ex military? Was Walker really more right wing than Lemnitzer and LeMay? How does he not include Angleton and Dulles when looking at the right? Trejo and Ward would like to pigeonhole Garrison as first believing it was the ultra right and then switching to the CIA. Mort Sahl, who worked with Garrison for 4 years, says Garrison referred to the US as the Fourth Reich, as a fascist government. It was Clay Shaw who he prosecuted, without having a great deal of info on Permindex or on Shaw. You do Garrison a great disservice when you ignore that, and ignore the wealth of information revealing who was involved in Permindex and CMC. Why do you suppose the Canadian Government has refused to release Bloomfield’s private papers from exactly the years we care about 1961-63? Not curious? Trejo seeks to prove that Walker ran the operation, and to that end he is looking for ties between Dallas cops and officials and Walker and the Minutemen. Fine - I agree. But it’s one dimensional. Why dismiss the ties between those same suspects and reserve military units for example? Why not at least put that on the radar? Where is Jack Ruby in Trejo’s theory? Where is David Atlee Phillips, or his and Ruby’s close friend Gordon McLendon? Not curious? Why do you settle on Walker as the culprit and then attempt to squeeze anything that fits, and toss out or mischaracterize everything pointing in other directions? It backwards. Look at it all before you decide. When you call people like me CIA-did-it conspiracy theorists it’s the pot calling the kettle black. You’re the one who’s wedded to a theory, who can write a post mentioning several CIA officers and several more CIA contractors and then dismiss it all as peripheral, based only on how well it fits your theory. Neither the researchers you criticize, or the ones you quote with reverence, would buy into your methodology. By all means - Jason - show us the goods connecting the DPD with Walker. And while you’re at it, keep a look out for other connections as well.
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  7. Pamela Brown

    The KGB and the JFK case

    I too am uncomfortable with Bagely's positions. He comes across as someone scrambling to do CYA.
  8. David Boylan

    Revolt of the Colonels?

    It's good to see a nod to Larry and Alan. Two long time researchers. Larry (the other Larry H) went with the local sheriff to delivery a subpoena from Garrison to Clint Wheat back in 1967. Wheat had left town. I think he got word. Larry did get to view some and borrow some of Wheat's far right literature - Million Man March, American Committee to Free Cuba, etc. Larry sent me one of Wheat's ACFC pamphlets.
  9. Paul Brancato

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    I think there’s doubt he ever had the revolver in his possession.
  10. Jim Hargrove

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    Sounds reasonable to me, but he does have one of my favorite lines in this whole field which goes, if memory serves, something like this:
  11. James DiEugenio

    New RFK Jr book gives big nod to research community

    Mike: That link of yours to the Daily Beast shows just what the problem is in this case and its a perfect illustration of what I was talking about. The author is Len Levitt. Talk about bias. If you read my article, which you refused to do, you would learn that he was the recipient of family lawyer Sheridan's investigative files. And then started to write a series of articles based on those files, which Sheridan had rigged to make the worst case scenarios--Warren Commission style. That was a part of the Rush to Judgment in the first place. In other words, he was Fuhrman pt 1. It would be like linking to an article by David Belin in 1967. The whole idea of non fiction writing, at least I always have felt, is that you are supposed to try to find the most revealing and reliable information, and then try and inform the public about what has been withheld from them. Bobby Kennedy's book is full of forensic facts from people like Henry Lee. And at the same time it describes a whole litany of legal abuses which originated from public pressure induced by Dunne, Levitt and Fuhrman. Paz, as I wrote in my review, in the book, he spends 13 pages utterly demolishing the students at Elan. And what went on there from students like Coleman. It got so bad that kids who survived formed an organization to get it closed down.
  12. Hi Paul, FBI agent Hosty says Oswald had FPCC contact right around the time of the Walker shooting on 10APR63. Correlation does not imply causation. However, correlation does imply correlation so I have to ask how the shooting of General Walker in April is related to Oswald's April move to New Orleans, and the April(?) contact between the FPCC and LHO? SOURCE HSCA Administrative Folder, Lee Harvey Oswald, Vol. 6. NARA 124-10369-10018
  13. Steve Thomas

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    Robert, I'm awful glad I never had to rent from Mrs. Johnson. She was perfectly willing to violate her tenants' fourth amendment rights. Either the police lied to the Johnsons, or the Johnsons lied to the Warren Commission. Mr. BALL. Did you ever know his true name was Lee Harvey Oswald? Mrs. JOHNSON. No; not until we saw his picture flash on the television as the officers were out. Those particulars was found in his pocket after he killed Tippit, after his arrest. Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh--after he was--uh--apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley? Mr. JOHNSON. That's right. Mr. BALL. When they came out there, did they have a search warrant? Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes, surely. Mr. BALL. Did you permit them to search his room? Mrs. JOHNSON. Yes; they taken everything immediately out of his room. “So I came from the restaurant, I guess 1 or 1:30, and these officers were there 1:30 or 2, something like that, anyway, it was after this assassination, and as I drove in, well, the officers were there and they told me that they was looking for this character and I told them I didn't think I had anyone by that name there but we went through the register carefully two or three times and there was no Oswald there and I had two new tenants, rather new tenants, so we had carried them around the house to show them and we was going to start in the new tenants' rooms...” At 2:40 PM, W.E. Potts, B.L. Senkel and Lt. E.L. Cunningham were dispatched to 1026 N. Beckley. Potts wrote in his after-action report (Box 2, Folder# 9, Item# 32) http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm that after he finished taking some affidavits, Fritz dispatched them to the Beckely St address at 2:40 and they arrived at Beckley at 3:00PM. Detective B.L. Senkel also said in his after action report (Dallas Police Archives Box 3, Folder# 12, Item#1) that they arrived at 1026 N. Beckley at 3:00PM. They checked the register and found that Oswald had been living there since October 14th. They did not search the room on Beckley until Detective Turner, David Johnston, and Deputy DA Bill Alexander arrived with a search warrant at 4:30 or 5:00PM (Potts, Dallas City Archives - JFK Collection) Steve Thomas
  14. James DiEugenio

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    The tear down of the Ambassador and the construction of the huge RFK High School was done around a deception. I know because I attended the public meetings at the school board office. As did dozens of others. Ray Romer, the superintendent, did something very clever. He included three plans for the new high school. All three preserved the pantry site. He then rammed through, with his allies on the board, the one that would preserve ONLY the pantry--none of the outside or kitchen area. About a year later, as the construction project was beginning, I called the builder and then the board. Romer played a real trick on everyone. He yanked out all the materials from the pantry, and deposited them in a warehouse. But did not include any plans for reinserting them into the new building. And in fact the building was completed liker that. He never wanted to use any space at all for anything except more class rooms.
  15. Gene Kelly

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    And if one were to write a book about Jack Ruby and all of his diverse connections and associates, I'd suggest calling it "Six Degrees of Jack Ruby"
  16. Joe Bauer

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    Was Tippit sleeping with another woman or women in the months before he was killed? If so, how do we know this? And if so, were there any connections to Jack Ruby with these women? We do know that some Dallas police officers ( married and single ) had sex with at least a few of Jack Ruby's girls. Forget the deli sandwiches and free booze, Ruby's most powerful angle of influence over any police or other officials would clearly be the sex one. Ruby researcher Seth Kantor bluntly described Ruby as a pimp. One can imagine the favors certain police and officials might feel obligated to perform for Ruby in return for his providing them with the most powerful temptation known to man. Funny little aside regards H. Livingstone. He was a local resident here where I live. This fact was mentioned in our local paper once or twice through the JFK articles that would pop up commenting on the anniversaries of 11,22,1963. I had seen a picture of Livingston. Probably accompanying one of these articles? A few years ago I was walking out of the Monterey, California city library. Between the main library rooms and the street outside, there was a small enclosed entrance way before you went through the sensors coming in and after when you exited. In this 25 ft. long corridor was an actual phone booth type phone. One that actually took coins! As I was passing this wall phone the fellow using it was leaning with his back to the wall and facing the rest of the entrance way and me. Reaching his position straight across from me I immediately recognized this person as Livingstone. Just 8 feet away I couldn't help but stop and stare at him. Innocently, like one would a celebrity? Within a second or two Livingstone reacted to my stopping and staring at him in an almost laughable exaggerated way. He gripped the phone and pulled it close and with a fearful facial expression quickly turned his back to me and hunched down as if he was caught by some creepy spy in the middle of some super secret and important phone call. He kept furtively jerking his head around to see when I would leave, which I did, seconds later. It all seemed so Peter Lorre cloak and daggerish. Thank goodness I didn't get any closer to him to introduce myself. I wondered if this guy wasn't just a little paranoid? Not judging Livingstone in any way regards this awkward meet up. Heck, I guess if I was having a private conversation on a public phone and someone who looked like a disheveled Lon Cheney Jr. just stopped a few feet away and stared directly at me with big manic eyes, I might feel somewhat paranoid myself.
  17. Paul Brancato

    Revolt of the Colonels?

    And Captain Gannaway was rumored to be a member of the 488th. Does it not strike anyone as strange that JFK went up against the Federal Reserve by executive order to continue the silver certificates that were redeemable for a silver dollar? If I’ve read this correctly, that was ended in 1964. This thread should not have died. The article about Ed Coyne does not explain the mysterious phone call.
  18. Pamela Brown

    The KGB and the JFK case

    I don't think anyone in CIA understood Nosenko, especially JJA. The reasoning was either-or -- when the truth might have been something somewhat different. And I also think that Golitsyn was a very sophisticated false defector.
  19. If it wasn't so possible, one would think it too chilling to see it as deliberate. But arranging to have her husband's head shot off inches from her, makes all things possible- including arranging someone to film it or someone to leave a message or a sign.
  20. Wade Frazier

    My Edward S. Herman biography project

    Hi: As I read Ed and Noam’s early work in The Washington Connection, and in parts of it, they throw in a little ironic humor on nearly every page. I think that it must have helped them deal with such dark material, and I think that I can usually tell what was Noam’s and what was Ed’s. In later years, their work was more refined, with fewer ironic asides, and just better writing. Ed often went straight for the humor, such as in his Doublespeak Dictionary (his Great Society Dictionary was a precursor). Ed was a better writer than Noam, IMO, but that is quibbling. They are two of the greatest scholars of conscience that the USA has yet produced. As they finished The Washington Connection, they presented a prelude to After the Cataclysm, as American writers began spinning the wars in Southeast Asia as a noble cause gone wrong, full of “tragic errors,” not something that was criminal from the outset. One day, I may have to write more on Noam, Ed, and the JFK hit. I rarely found scholars whom I entirely agreed with on the matter, but there have been some, such as Mike Parenti’s take on it and Peter Dale Scott’s work, although neither one of them dealt with Gary’s testimony. A writer who I think is pretty good on the JFK hit failed rather badly, IMO, in this critique of Noam and the JFK hit. Noam and the JFK hit is quite a subject. Ed gave Gary’s story some thought, and a LOOT issue’s cover story was on the media establishment’s attack on Oliver Stone’s JFK before it was even released. Ed had some good JFK-related terms in his Doublespeak Dictionary. Best, Wade
  21. Robert  Harper

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    Joseph--do you think Oswald would have kept a gun there? I don't. I've rented a room in a place with no lock on the room. I saw that house and it had 10 renters. I don't believe for a second that there was not snooping and I think Oswald would know that. I don't know how he got the gun he had, but I just doubt it was kept on Beckley.
  22. Robert  Harper

    Trump and the Unspeakable? Part II

    I was leaving some time for David Josephs to re-comment on my comment to his post, since I respect him and his work on this Forum. I was unsuccessful in trying to message him before I comment again. This thread is meant to reflect upon - and memorialize - some aspects of James Douglas's "unspeakable"that might apply to the Trump years. His current envoys to the Middle East, Jared and Ivanka are - in Norman Finklestein's quip - the Ken and Barbie of American diplomacy. Dolls generally don't speak, and those that do, have a string that's pulled enabling them to do so. Mordecai Vanunu was the original whistleblower. In 1986 he told the world that Israel had nuclear weapons and published photos of the secret Dimona works in the British press. He said Prime Minister Ben Gurion ordered the assassination of JFK because the President opposed Israel’s acquisition of nuclear weapons. Ben Gurion resigned in protest over JFK’s Israeli policies. Vanunu also wrote a letter in 1997 saying that there was even a link between the assassination of Kennedy and Israel’s launching of the 1967 war.Vanunu was kidnapped through a ruse by Mossad, and spent 11 years in solitary confinement for his speaking of the unspeakable. To this day he is not allowed to meet with foreign visitors, nor to speak publically. Along these lines it is pertinent to recall Congressman's Paul Findlay's comment from 25 years ago: "in all the words written about the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, has never been mentioned, despite the obvious fact Mossad complicity is as plausible as any of the other theories." It shouldn't surprise anyone that he was attacked feroushly by the Lobby and did not return to Congress. The other 534 members got the message and pretty much have kept to it since (with one or two exceptions). Journalist Andrew Cockburn has stated: “There has been since almost the earliest days of the Israeli state and the earliest days of the CIA a secret bond, basically by which Israeli intelligence did jobs for the CIA and the rest of the American intelligence. You can’t understand what’s been going on with American covert operations and the Israeli covert operations unless you understand that. (Dr. Syed Mujahid Kamran 2017): "The conflict between JFK and Israel was simple, even though the JFK-Ben-Gurion correspondence, that contained evidence of this conflict, was not declassified for at least three decades after JFK’s assassination. Parts of it were kept classified even after a lapse of over four decades. There is nothing in this correspondence that should have been kept secret for so long. The correspondence reveals very clearly that JFK wanted to find out about the activities that were going on at the nuclear reactor that had been secretly built at Dimona. JFK wanted to ensure that Israel would not become a nuclear power. Perhaps the real reason for the concealment of this correspondence was to prevent the American people from becoming cognizant of Israel’s secret nuclear program. Such an awareness on the part of the American people would certainly have, at that time, led to cutting off of much needed American aid to Israel. The real beneficiary of this delayed declassification was only Israel. A deeper reason could be that had the public known of this correspondence, Mossad would have been, along with the CIA, a real suspect in the JFK assassination." Avner Cohen and William Burr have written on this topic and Jim DiEugenio has referenced them. A review of the film JFK, referred to it as "the Kosher Version" which 10 years ago or 30 years ago, I would have thought absurd. Oliver Stone was a truth-seeker, and to me, has always had a halo affixed to him for his work on that film alone. How many works of art have had a political punch like that one? Lincoln thought that Uncle Tom's Cabin had. Thomas Paine maybe with Common Sense? To Kill a Mockingbird? Catch-22? Grapes of Wrath? The list isn't that long. But since the premiere of JFK, I've read books on Angleton and on counterintelligence; we've had the disclosures of JFK and Ben-Gurion letters; we've had historians reviewing JFK's actions against colonialisms of all kinds. We now have information that Angleton - who was in charge of the the Israeli division of the CIA also had organized crime attachments (John Whitten testimony to both House and Senate) that ran deep. We learned in Jefferson Morley's book, that Israel has two monuments to Angleton; and we have learned drip-by-drip of the connections Angleton had with the fascist Gladio and P-2 in Italy. It was Angleton, who took over from Whitten, the CIA "investigation" of Lee Harvey Oswald. We have since learned that the producer of the film, Arnon Milchan, was a long time Mossad asset who has recently boasted of his friendship with the guiding light of the Dimona project Shimon Peres, as well as his own participation in the acquisition of the nuclear material. Indeed after reading The Zhivago Affair (2014) subtitled: The Kremlin, the CIA and the Battle over a Forbidden Book and Who Paid the Piper (1999) subtitled: The CIA and the Cultural Cold War, I no longer approach works from any studio or publishing house, without wondering if - and to what extent - the CIA as America''s propaganda tool, is involved. False flags can be placed in artworks as well as in newspapers or on ships. This speculation doesn't demean Stone, nor diminish his accomplishment; rather it is meant to illustrate how writers on the NY Times, Washington Post or The Nation magazine likely didn't know of the absence of an impartial spectator in their exchange with their employer. It certainly was an "invisible hand" that moved the market of ideas post WW II, but it was a greedy and slippery and tax deductable hand as well. - .
  23. Larry - can you point to any source for more complete info on the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment?
  24. Micah Mileto

    Givens down to one lie

    This is getting too hard to copy and paste at once. Let me try to do it shorthand: 1. Robert Livingston's story is inconsequential. 2. John Stringer and John Ebersole both remembered a phone call to Dallas during the autopsy that made the autopsy pathologists aware of the throat wound. 3. As ARRB MD 165 shows, the FBI was aware as of 6/2/1966 that people were beginning the question the timeline of the autopsy. Francis X. O'Neill told the HSCA and everyone afterwards that he witnessed the later stages of the body's reconstruction, which is impossible if he was at the FBI lab by 1:45 AM. 4. The Death of a President and The Day Kennedy Was Shot places the phone call to Dr. Perry at around midnight. 5. Other autopsy witnesses who made statements indicating the autopsy pathologists discussed and probed the throat wound as a bullet hole (Lipsey, Jenkins, Robinson, etc.) 6. Boswell can't keep his story straight 7. Dr. Perry remembered the phone call as happening on Friday night.
  25. Gene Kelly

    The Tippit Case in the New Millenium

    Jim The Earl Crater comment comes from Harrison Livingstone's "The Radical Right and the Murder of John F. Kennedy" as well as a January 5, 2005 post by Dixie Dea in the EF thread "J. D. Tippit ... was he part of the conspiracy?" Gene
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