Thomas Graves

________________________________________ Jack, The reason none of the people in the photo are clapping for or waving at JFK and Jackie can be VERY EASILY EXPLAINED-- they were all CONSPIRATORS who knew what was going to happen and they were just standing there TRYING TO REMEMBER which photo lab(s) they were supposed to go in a few minutes to start ALTERING all the films and photos! LOL --Thomas

___________________________________________________________________ John, In the photos you've posted, "Saul at the Parade" certainly resembles "Mexico City Oswald" facially, but what about that belly/paunch "Saul" has but "Oswald in Mexico City" doesn't have? Wasn't the guy who went to the Cuban and Russian embassies in M.C. described as having an "athletic build?" --Thomas

_______________________________________________________________ Good question. --Thomas

A few years ago, a friend and I set off a firecracker on the south side of the triple underpass.., about where we thought a shooter would have shot from. We watched the people who were standing around the kill zone and on the north knoll... They ALL first looked toward the north side of the underpass and some started walking that way. I found that interesting and then Dallas's finest came and politely ask us to leave. ______________________________________________________ Bump.

_________________________________________ To borrow a phrase from James, "Great stuff." Someone should ask Al Beaubouef if anything in Dave's room looks out of place or different. BTW, I just realized that today marks the 42nd anniversery of David Ferie's death.

__________________________________________________________ Johnson says that he would never consider trading on human lives for political advantage (LOL), and Nixon does exactly that, big time. Johnson privately tries to assume the moral high ground vis-a-vis Tricky Dickie. Must have had a good ol' west Texas hardscrabble hill country epiphany. Gol durn. Regarding Nixon, this probably explains how and why I saw Nixon actually bow his head (what a surprise) when the prayer was given the one and only Sunday morning that I got all dressed up in my "church clothes" and attended the late morning service at the La Jolla Presbyterian Church in the summer of '68, even though I had no Idea that Nixon would be there, or was even in town for that matter. Luck of the Irish, Tommy O'Mochain. (For not bowing my own head I have ever since been begging for God's forgivness .) It was obvious to all that the reason he was in in church was simply to atone for his evil deeds! It was so obvious! (Naw... He was just in La Jolla to confer with Hoover and Murchison at the Del Charro. It was during the Del Mar racing season, after all.) LOL --Thomas AKA The Secret Sharer (apologies to Joseph Conrad)

______________________________________________________ Dear Detective Lane, Isn't it reasonable to assume that the only way Carr was able to discern that the man in the window was wearing any kind of glasses at all was because he (the man) was wearing glasses with frames sufficiently thick and dark-colored to, by definition, be visible to a keen-eyed observer some 250 yards away? If so, then we only need to determine whether or not Carr was sufficiently keen-eyed. LOL The sort of glasses that Richard Cain was known to wear, for example? Oh, by the way, I wonder what kind of glasses Malcolm (Mac) Wallace was wearing in the Fall of 1963? Does your precious Army Artillery Manual actually say that it is unfeasable to try to spy thick, dark-colored, "horn rimmed" glass frames with the naked eye from 250 yards away? LOL _______________________________________________ bump

I am not sure that this is the real Al. There are a couple of things that ring true, but a few of the bio details seem to be wrong. Also, this person asked in the Bio section if I had ever contacted him; I have been in contact with the real Al many times, even staying at his home. I'll call Al today and check to see if it is him. YEAH IT'S ME.. CALL ME @504 278 5699 Al, Were you involved with the Russian Orthodox Church or with White Russian Solidarists? Do you know anything about Ferrie's involvement there? Can you pick out the White Russians or Solidarists from the Torbitt Document excerpts? I told Al Beaubouef several weeks ago that I had read on the Internet that he was a Solidarst agent in 1963. He said he didn't know what a Soldarist was and laughed when I defined it for him. Did you notice that he posted his phone number on this thread? Why don't you call him? --Thomas

Al Beaubouef told me that his password isn't working. Any suggestions? Thanks, --Thomas

I mean seein' as how they were both from Chi Town and they were both such nice guys, and all..... --Thomas _______________________________________ bump and i'll just keep on a-bumpin' it, i reken'

________________________________________________________________ Bevilaqua, (is that your real name?) Thanks you making a post-rather-informative. Fairly concise, and yes rather informative, quite well-written (as is to be expected from a Haaavard grad such as yourself, I suppose. I particulary like the excerpt I'm posting in this here reply. Keep up the good work, Bevilaqua. --Thomas John (is that your real name?), You're Welcome. You know how much I love complimenting you. John (is that really yourl name???), have you ever posted on other websites that Alvin Beubouef was an "agent" of the so-called (White Russian) Soldarists ? Yours, --Tommy O'Mochain (biolgical name; what's yours, really?)

__________________________________________________________ So which witnesses to the assassination do you consider to be credible, "Dukie?" Or is it just Dukie withoiut the apostrophes? That's what your relatives call you, right? I don't mean to sound demeaning. Oh, I'm sorry to be so off topic. lol --Thomas __________________________________________________________

________________________________________________________________ John, As much as I hate to admit it, this time I gotta compliment you for a great post. Very informative, fairly concise, and no ranting to speak of which, "considering the source," is quite refreshing, actually. Somewhat like the proverbial breath of fresh air. (LOL) I particulary like the excerpt I'm posting in this here reply. Keep up the good work. --Thomas

Thank you for posting this. There are never too many videos from this time period; some would argue that the intrigues surrounding the making of the CBS Warren Report, would not exactly be dull reading if someone were to write a book about it. I know of several forum members that could vouch for this. Specifically, there were family members of prominent Warren Commission related persons, involved in shifting the focus away from areas that pursued conspiratorial overtones. McCloy was secretly advising the producers of the 67 CBS special defending the Warren Report. The 64 special is also interesting, but for different reasons. Brennan...the WC's "star" witness, destroys his credibility, if I recall, by indicating he saw the bullet strike Kennedy in the head. This was in opposition to his sworn testimony but a few months before. The 64 special also spends some time demonstrating that Oswald was skilled with a rifle, and had been practicing around Dallas. Half-way through the program, however, the official report was released. Cronkite reads from the report, if I recall, but I'm pretty sure he fails to mention that--oops, oh yeah, the Commission determined that all those testifying to Oswald's presence at a gun range were full of beans. _________________________________________________________________ This thread definitely deserves a bump in my humble opinion. LOL --Thomas

Thank you for the welcome and yes I am one of the young men who drove to Houston with David ferrie. The movie was a complete distortion of David's personality and demeanor . The man was just as comfortable in any airplane (jet or prop ) as you are in your car and had the nerves of a race car driver flying in any type of weather.. Dave and I have flown many com. trips together in 1965 and 66' .. Dave was a man of incredabe knowledge who could relate to any individual on any level but his passion was flying.He was the kind of man if you were broke down on the highway in a rain storm he would stop and help regardless if he had a suit or reg. clothes on. He was really a loving, kind and gentle man. He's the man that someone would say sombody should do something, he was there never just sitting on the side line . There is a book be Patrica Lambert ( false witness ) that really explains what Garrison was all about in trying to implicate David and Clay Shaw in the assassination consperacy.. ________________________________________________________ Hi Al, I remember what you told me on the phone, but for the "record" here ( lol ), did you ever see any guns in Dave's apartment? What about laboratory mice? (I read somewhere that the smell got so bad at one point that the neighbors complained to the authorities about it.) LOL Thanks, --Tom

I mean seein' as how they were both from Chi Town and they were both such nice guys, and all..... --Thomas

______________________________________________________ Dear Detective Lane, Isn't it reasonable to assume that the only way Carr was able to discern that the man in the window was wearing any kind of glasses at all was because he (the man) was wearing glasses with frames sufficiently thick and dark-colored to, by definition, be visible to a keen-eyed observer some 250 yards away? If so, then we only need to determine whether or not Carr was sufficiently keen-eyed. LOL The sort of glasses that Richard Cain was known to wear, for example? Oh, by the way, I wonder what kind of glasses Malcolm (Mac) Wallace was wearing in the Fall of 1963? Does your Army Artillery Manual actually say that it is unfeasable to try to spy thick, dark-colored, "horn rimmed" glass frames with the naked eye from 250 yards away? LOL

Emphasis added by T. G.________________________________________________________________ Darn straight Greg. "Captains and kings in the ship's hold, they came to caress silver and gold." -- U2 I recently found out that the mother of one of my former roommates was living in Florida in 1963 , was detained after the assassination and shuttled around, interrogated, perhaps even "protected" (or made to think she was being protected) from Ruby. et al, (probably by the FBI) or perhaps not, simply because her name was "N.R.", if you know what I mean, but not the N.P.R. we have all read about. Also because the uncle of my friend's mom was all juiced-up as owner or manager of a major racetrack in Florida. More to come I hope. --Thomas ; ___________________________________________ Sobered up and edited it a bit. LOL

Emphasis added by T. G.________________________________________________________________ Darn straight Greg. "Captains and kings in the ship's hold, they came to caress silver and gold." -- U2 I recently found out that the mother of one of my former roommates was living in Florida in 1963, was detained after the assassination and shuttled around, interrogated, perhaps even "protected" (or made to think she was being protected) from Ruby. et al (probably by the FBI or perhaps not LOL) because her name was N.R. if you know what I mean, but not the N.P.R. we have all read about. Also because the uncle of my friend's mom was all juiced-up as owner or manager(?) of a bigtime racetrack in Florida. More to come, I hope. --Thomas ;

Joseph Federici, who claimed to be a nephew of Vito Genovese, very probably was at a party attended by Jada and Jack Ruby a couple of days before the assassination. He and his wife departed for New Jersey on November 22 and returned to Dallas about ten days later. He said he was working at that time for Industrial Management Consultants in Dallas. The topic title and topic description speak for themselves. Thanks, --Thomas

What's the connection here, William? Six Flags Over Texas? --Thomas

Good reply, William. Well-reasoned. And points taken. Thank you for being a scholar and a gentleman on this. (Actually, the sole reason for my posting this "reply" is to covertly insert the measley six points which the Eagles will manage against the Chargers, if both teams somehow make it to the Super Bowl, and which I somehow managed to omit from my post.) --Thomas

[emphasis by T. Graves] ________________________________________________________________ Great post, William. Now please allow me to relay a personal anecdote (sp?) or two to y'all, in a "vain" lol(?) attempt to keep the Forum up close, and well, personal: 1) As some of you know, my adoptive father, the recently-deceased Dr. Orville Melvin Graves, Jr (!!) was a close friend of Krulak's in La Jolla. He even took "Brute" to visit my much-wiser older brother at my brother's house in "North County" one day, entirely unannounced (which is not surprising in-and-of-itself as that was our Dad's basic "MO"). Well, during lunch, my brother, who had been an officer in the Air Force (capatilized?) during 'Nam, was asked by Krulak how the food had been ('67 - '69?) at my brother's base in the Phillipines. In my mind this tends to verify the image of Krulak's having been very concerned about the welfare and morale of enlisted men and junior officers, in general. 2) My Dad told me that when he first met Krulak (at Inchon, I believe, around the time of the Chosin Reservoir battle and retreat), Krulak ordered my Dad to take his brass bars off of his lapel (proper terminology?) because they made too nice a target for enemy snipers. 3) A few years ago, my Dad gently corrected my grammer (sp?) one day by telling me, "The gerund always takes the possessive." Having re-read Krulak's letter to Prouty (thanks to you, William), I now got me a sneakin' hunch that he learned this rule of grammar from Krulak and, as a good father, just passed it along to me. (See above; "emphasis by T. Graves") --Thomas PS So William, do you think that Krulak (might have) had something to do with JFK's assassination, Thomas, I don't think that Krulak was anything other than an honorable man and military hero. Do I think he has something to do with JFK's assassination? Well, Krulak was the Special Assistant for Counterinsurgency and Special Activities (SACSA) and according to the memo by his assistant, Col. Higgins, was given responsibility for responding to the CIA's request for assistance from the military. In that regard, he was involved with the covert maritime operations against Cuba that became entwined with the events of Dealey Plaza. It's a shame that he wasn't properly questioned about them. Since LBJ didn't appoint Krulak Commandant of the USMC, his desired post, which his son attained, I take it that he wasn't responsible for making LBJ president. or just the unconscionable (sp?) dirty rat attempt by the our military-industrial-mafia-intelligence complex to "off" or otherwise incapacitate (sp?), politically and/or physically, your buddy(?) Castro? Just curious, uh, William. I don't think the mafie are really in the equation, and I know why you would think Castro is my buddy. PPS Super Bowl prediction: My Chargers 31, your Eagles 6 The Chargers aren't going to make it that far, and I wouldn't bet the Eagles will be there either, though Bruce the Boss will most certainly be "Workin' on a Dream." BK PPPS Anyone know any juicy insider information or insight for that matter on that soon-to-be-released report on the super secret, hush-hush covert op "When The Whip Comes Down" by The Rolling Stones? Details coming your way soon, right here most probably. Go, you Chargers. (The perennial (sp?) West Ham United of American football.) LOL