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  1. On the JFK page there was recently a thread started about Jim Fetzer asserting that Paul McCartney did in fact die and was replaced in 1966; I don't share that view but there was a post regarding the overall Paul is Dead phenomenon that I'd like to address in this thread-- The Beatles have most certainly been exercising their right to remove based on Copyright even though Fair Use is often claimed; the most notable exception is the group Iamaphoney, whose videos have remained largely intact...it is said elsewhere in the thread that no one has really come forward to talk about any of this, and there possibly is also a notable exception to that. Iamaphoney's Beatles mystery series as you can see remains untouched, and there is a very interesting story behind this: reportedly, Apple Records head and career-long Beatles insider Neil Aspinall supposedly started a group called Iamaphoney back in the 90's to set the record straight regarding the many Beatle myths that had developed through the years and set out to collect all of the obscure Beatle related materials he could get his hands on as a way of preserving the record. Now, the internet is a very interesting place quite obviously; and with the rise of forums and digital media came a renewed interest in the Paul is Dead phenomenon, due to being able to post images, video and audio clips of the original clues, as well as some that were discovered later in the post-Beatles era. I'll be the first to say, that some of the posters to the Paul is Dead forums are kind of out there; but there are others that are quite rational and grounded, and some of these people believed more in an overall mystery regarding the Beatles than anything else...Paul is Dead was but one possible answer, the question though by everyone is why the clues? Well in 2003 a mysterious internet poster appeared on the two most popular Paul is Dead forums who went by the moniker Apollo C Vermouth. Apollo posted infrequently, but attained a reputation as an insider, a veritable deep throat of the Paul is Dead Beatles mysteries; he insisted that there indeed was a mystery to be solved, and that mystery was centered around the Sgt. Pepper album with years of other Beatles clues pointing back toward that album. His position was that the mystery had simply never been solved. (if you search for Apollo C Vermouth on Google, there are collections of his posts) Apollo posted with less and less frequency from 2003-2007, making one final e-mail message to a number of Nothing is Real members in January of 2008 and then was heard from no more. In April of 2008 a group member known as NIR Committee then made this post. http://invanddis.proboards.com/thread/4643/nir-member-dies This group alleged, and continues till this day, that Apollo C Vermouth was in fact Neil Aspinall; the head of Apple Records for over 30 years had been posting on Paul is Dead forums for the past 5 years. I should say at this point that I believe them; some of the members with the best reputations on that forum were among those insisting Apollo was in fact Neil. If so, there is a very prominent exception to no one having had spoken up about the Beatles mysteries. Even more interesting is that late in Apollo's reign on the internet, an internet poster trying to obtain funding for a series on the Beatles suddenly started making clips on YouTube under the pseudonym Iamaphoney, matching the group Neil Aspinall started in the nineties. This series started off relatively simple and then suddenly became much more elaborate, with a sudden legion of others commenting on the videos, giving off an impression that "Iamaphoney" had suddenly become much more professional and perhaps much better funded. They also had Beatles related materials that no one had ever seen. They also started doing videos on location from all over the world; this one person now having seemingly unlimited resources. This is the group whose internet videos have been largely left alone by the Beatles. The working theory is, and this is in no way proven, that Neil Aspinall's Iamaphoney group started funding the Iamaphoney group making the Beatle mystery videos on YouTube. When Neil died, the series suddenly became much more bizarre although seemingly just as well funded and the new material largely ceased. The promised revelation from Iamaphoney never was revealed; and the rumored reason why is that MPL, Paul McCartney's own firm, took over the series upon Neil's death and wouldn't allow for there to be an answer. Most of the people responding to the Jim Fetzer post on the JFK page consider this to be a hoax, as do most people everywhere I'm sure. I have given on pages 6-7 of this thread my answer to this; that I think Paul is Dead is actually God is Dead and this is the mystery alluded to by Apollo, I've been working on a book about it for a few years now. But just as a consideration regarding this all being a hoax, in addition to Apollo and the Iamaphoney group, consider that Heather Mills was seemingly in fear for her life if what she knew about Paul was made public according to her, and went on a number of interview shows saying so, before being gagged by the divorce decree. Russ Gibb, the DJ who was one of the first responsible for breaking Paul is Dead in 1969, said that he had been told something after the furor died down that he has never divulged and was considering giving it as a deathbed revelation. Julian Lennon, after being snubbed for a number of events by Paul, said on Facebook "what have I done to be treated in such a way. Gimme some truth, maybe now its time to tell the truth" before deleting the post. It may still be up for debate just what the mystery is about, but there is something more than meets the eye with these clues.
  2. And, as "luck" would have it, David Bowie is releasing his I Can't Give Everything Away" single on April 8th, the date of the Is God Dead issue of Time. http://davidbowienews.com/2016/03/i-cant-give-everything-away-being-released-on-april-8th/ (To be clear, I don't think its luck at all...I think the song is about The Beatles and God is Dead)
  3. Iamaphoney, who I am not associated with, seems to want to reiterate that it is indeed Time.
  4. Thanks to those who supplied feedback, I've taken it back to private now to continue work on it...
  5. I noticed this morning that there was still a link in this thread to an old blog post of mine that has probably been rendered somewhat obsolete over the past few years. The intent of this was always to write a book about the whole thing, and I posted a number of excerpts from the still in progress work recently so that some of the people in and around it could give some feedback, but anyone else who would like to check it out can read it here. Its primarily a story just to let you know upfront, most of the Beatles material doesn't come until well into the excerpts and in fact that is the section still being rewritten to incorporate the more recent discoveries regarding what I think they actually intended.
  6. Does anyone else know about this...yeah I think a few artists do. “The blackout hearts, the flowered news / With skull designs upon my shoes. I can't give everything away” RIP to David Bowie...
  7. As stated earlier, perhaps the key line, at least one of the key lines, on the Sgt. Pepper LP as it relates to clues was the line We were talking-About the Space between us all, potentially alluding to the space on the Sgt. Pepper cover between the 4 Beatles where the drum, ATL in Beatles and the doll reside. No one is quite sure what all in the Paul McCartney LP Ram set John Lennon off, but there are some potential references to the Paul is Dead/God is Dead issue on the Ram Cover, including the Lily inscription that actually also mirrors to one one one X just like the Sgt. Pepper drum. John responded with a direct, albeit cryptic reference to Sgt. Pepper in the opening lines of How Do You Sleep in Imagine later that year. So Sgt. Pepper took you by surprise You better see right through that mother's eyes Those freaks was right when they said you was dead The one mistake you made was in your head Well if you look at the back cover of Sgt. Pepper you will see that the line We were talking-about the space between us all, goes right through Paul's head. This was obscure enough to escape detection, however what then made it somewhat noticeable was that after John delivered this line in 1971, all future Sgt. Pepper back covers had the image of the 4 Beatles moved relative to the text, just far enough so that the line no longer went through Paul's head, which in fact made it more noticeable than if they had just left it alone.
  8. Back in the eighties, the PMRC tried to make a big deal about backwards masking in music; they were largely laughed off and rightfully so. But there are two instances of backwards masking that seem to directly relate to the fate of John Lennon, instances that are quite a bit more troubling than the cartoonish and nonsensical "the devil ate soup" or whatever that were being trumpeted back in the day by the PMRC. Right at the the beginning of the song, or the end if you listen backwards, you hear Yoko whisper I shot John Lennon. Now obviously Yoko herself didn't do that; but Kiss Kiss Kiss was part of the Double Fantasy LP that was released just weeks before John Lennon was shot and killed. Like most things relating to the Beatles there is a spooky foreshadowing of this event in the line Mother Superior (Yoko) jumps the gun, from the song Happiness Is A Warm Gun on the White Album in 1968. The other is Hotel California. During the final verse of the song, right after Stab it with their Steely Knives but they just can't kill the beast, if you turn the song around backwards you will hear very clearly John Lennon by himself. The actual words forwards are Last thing I remember I was running for the door, what John did after being shot is run for the door of the Dakota Nightman's office, and if you continue to listen to Hotel California forwards it goes on to say relax said the Nightman we are programmed to receive, it was Operation 40 Bay of Pigs veteran Jose Perdomo who was the Dakota Nightman and cared for John until the police arrived. The Hotel California LP was released 4 years to the day before John Lennon's death on December 8th, 1976. It should be fairly clear that both of these instances of backwards masking both relate to something very specific vs. the garden variety messages alluded to back in the eighties; but it also should be fairly clear that neither Yoko Ono or The Eagles would have had any reason to actively participate in these messages, they seem to have happened independently of the will of the artists.
  9. Having established Time and Atlanta, lets return for a minute to the response to this 35 years ago today. Its fairly well known amongst Beatle afficianados that there is something that seems quite odd about the details surrounding John Lennon's death. First, there was the poster in Magical Mystery Tour that foreshadowed John's killer in saying The Best Way to Go is by MDC. This is from an album that was released 13 years to the day before John's death. Then fast forwarding to December 8th 1980, Mark David Chapman is standing in front of the Dakota ruminating about the odd coincidence that the movie Rosemary's Baby was filmed in the Dakota before director Roman Polanski's wife was killed by the Manson group who felt the Beatles were sending them messages; when Rosemary herself Mia Farrow happens to walk right past him on her way to Central Park. And then there is the strange synchronicity with Revolution Number 9, with the famed backwards message Turn Me On Dead Man. Rev. #9 ends with the chant, Hold That Line, Block That Kick and a series of events that fortuitously saw an ABC reporter being treated in Roosevelt Hospital when John Lennon was brought in, allowed ABC to get the story on what had happened in time for Howard Cosell to go on with the news of Lennon's passing with :03 seconds to go in the game, as John Smith was lining up to kick a field goal, that was in fact blocked. Virtually unknown however, is what was playing when the Lennon announcement broke on NBC; a Tonight Show rerun in which Johnny is saying Flames from the burning of Atlanta when the announcer broke in.
  10. Once upon a long ago, lived four young lads I'm sure you know. The other three, you know them two. You'll know me better when this is through. Before the band was on the run, a natures child followed the sun. And soon the four became a three, a list of clues for those to see. A story told in fine detail, to keep the loonies on the trail. A coin, a sheep, a favored son, were welcomed guest when the day was done. Now, those days are gone, the stories told, in rivers of ash, and urns of gold. A final hint to all of those, who refuse to see the Emporer's clothes. The still unanswered riddle, posted by Apollo C Vermouth (Neil Aspinall) on August 12th 2007 before dying of cancer the following spring.
  11. 1882 Good morning, young master, it’s 1882 your mother is hungry, what will you do? there is bread in the kitchen of the big house upstairs but I warn you, don’t take it from them your mother is calling, she wants you by the bed so get up, young master, shake your sleepy head “darling son, I am dying, and I leave it to you I’m leaving, tell me, what did I do?” you’ll be tarred, you’ll be feathered, you’ll be hung like a ham and I warn you, don’t do it, young man i own a sheepfarm. i own a sheepfarm. i’m dying, tell me, what did I do? Live version Good morning, young master, it’s 1882 And your mother is hungry, what will you do? There is bread in the kitchen of the big house upstairs But I warn you, don’t take it from them You’ll be tarred, you’ll be feathered, you’ll be hung like a ham And I warn you, don’t do it, young man Your mother is calling, she wants you by the bed So get ready, young master, well, go shake your sleepy head “Darling son, I am dying and I leave it to you As I’m leaving, tell me what did I do?” “I’m dying, tell me what did I do?” Well, boy steals the bread, now that’s enough, heads for the door Man sees you coming, said “Boy, you won’t be running no more” Boy gets arrested and the case it gets tested that day Judge finds him guilty and the jailer takes him away Yeah, whoa Good morning, young master, it’s twenty-five to nine They’ll be coming to get you, well, in twenty minutes time You’ll be drawn, you’ll be quartered, you’ll be hung like a ham But I warn you, get ready, young man Said the boy, “I am dying and I leave it to you As I’m leaving, tell me what did I do? As I’m dying, tell me what did I do?” Nietzsche first referred to God is Dead in the Gay Science in...yep, 1882.
  12. I would hope its clear, that in saying God is Dead is really the answer, I am in no way saying that they were never referring to Paul. There are in fact quite a few songs where you can hear them directly reference something about Paul, Paul is a dead man, miss him miss him, Paul is bloody, etc..., what I'm suggesting (assuming most people believe he didn't really die) is that Paul was built in as plausible deniability in case anyone started to question what these clues were actually about. It was simple misdirection, and brilliant. The band got plausible deniability, and Paul got more attention than anyone in the world, including any of the other Beatles. More people obsess about whether Paul died in 1966 than they do about the Beatles that actually did die. And you can also see how this played out in 1969. Assuming that Paul is Dead was planned going all the way back to 1966-early 1967; it was only spoken about by insiders throughout the latter part of 1967 and 1968. Supposedly someone brought the story and early clues to the attention of Rolling Stone in 1968 but they declined to do anything with it but none of the Paul is Dead clues really found any traction in the populace for over 2 years after the clues started to compile; but look at how this all came to the surface in the fall of 1969 and its actually a bit troubling. The Tate and LaBianca murders had Beatle references at the crime scene in early August of '69. At this point, although the song Saint Paul had been released, no one had really applied anything to Paul is Dead publicly (and the song has nothing to do with Paul is Dead, again it has much more to do with Paul is Dead really being God is Dead); but between August 9th and September 17th, a period at which the LAPD certainly knew of the Beatles references but didn't know about Manson et.al being responsible, the story of Paul is Dead suddenly spread like wildfire across campuses in the US. Now you could chalk that up to coincidence or more of an evil synchronicity, but remember Manson and their followers had connections in the industry. What if it was known among music insiders who had done this and what they believed, before it came to the attention of the LAPD? It was extremely fortuitous, that by the time Manson and the others were arrested, that the whole Paul is Dead furor had suddenly sprung to life, obscuring any other interpretation of the clues, because had someone figured out that they were actually talking about God, that would have put an entirely different spin on what Manson was saying about the Beatles sending messages, wouldn't it have? And that in my view, is exactly why they built Paul into the story in the first place, and why it has never been talked about. After all, DJ Russ Gibb, one of the first to break the Paul is Dead clues on his radio show, was told something by Military Intelligence that he says he may reveal on his deathbed or take to his grave, Neil Aspinall (Apollo) left a very cryptic post before he died but never came out and said what the answer was; Heather Mills said there was a box of evidence in case she was killed and that there was such a fear of something coming out; Julian Lennon said a few years ago on Facebook gimme some truth, now maybe its time to tell the truth, after he had been snubbed at a number of events. They must be talking about something, and that something is quite obviously taken pretty seriously for somewhat famous people like this to reference but never come out and say. The marching band refused to yield, do you recall what was revealed?
  13. Now, if you read this and conclude that I'm saying that The Beatles were evil, well no I'm not really saying that. I am certainly suggesting that they may have been avenging something they perceived had really been done to them in the Summer of '66 with the More Popular Than Jesus controversy and that it may have been better to try and change the world for the better without ever saying a single word about it by advocating for freedom. If you consider that to be evil, so be it, I mean, its not like anyone was protesting anything by the Summer of Love, the world had radically changed in less than a year. But consider the lyrics to Harry Nillson's Ambush again, a song worked on by both George and Ringo, and understand that there seems to be a war being spoken of, a war entirely different than the one commonly thought of during that era. The lamp that lights the way Is a light from yesterday The drum which leads the way Is a sound from yesterday The road is filled with shadows Of a million, living leaves Darkness all around us And not a friend in sight We sang a song together To help us through the night The song was sung with spirit But soft and like a choir And as the others sang along Our voices lifted higher We sang until' we reached the bridge We crossed, then saw the wire But by the time we stopped the song The enemy had opened fire Now, we ain't gonna sing that song no more Ain't gonna sing that song no more Just don't pay to sing no more Especially when you're in a war, a war Now, this time through We want everybody To listen to the punchline All right, all right, all right, all right The song was sung with spirit But soft and like a choir But by the time, we stopped the song The enemy had opened fire Now, we ain't gonna sing that song no more Ain't gonna sing that song no more Just don't pay to sing no more Especially when you're in a war, oh
  14. Sure, there's more. If Paul McCartney in all these years ever came close to giving away the answer, he did so in the lyrics to the song House of Wax a few years back. House of Wax Hidden in the yard underneath the wall buried deep below A Thousand Layers ...lay the answer to it all. But there is more... Looking Through A Glass Onion But still they lead me back To the long winding road You left me waiting here A long Long Time Ago Don't leave me standing here Lead me to your door I used to chide people that said you could find backwards hidden messages anywhere, I've tried on probably over a thousand songs and the truth is you maybe can find something remotely discernible 5% of the time...unless its the Beatles of course and then it's about half. And no other band that I've ever tried with comes even close to that. This ATL thing is very similar to that...not that it can't be found, but it's relatively rare compared to the Beatles work, especially Paul's solo work where there is an ATL in virtually every LP of his. Back then Long Time Ago when grass was green Woke up in a daze arrived like strangers in the night Fab Long Time Ago when we was fab Fab back when income tax was all we had Caresses fleeced you in the morning light Casualties at dawn and we did it all Fab Long Time Ago when we was fab Fab you are my world you are my only love And while youre in this world The fuzz gonna come and claim you but you mo better wise When the buzz gonna come and take you away Take you away, take you away The microscopes that magnified the tears Studied warts and all still the life flows on and on Fab Long Time Ago when we was fab Fab but its all over now baby blue Fab Long Time Ago when we was fab Fab like this pullover you sent to me Fab and youve really got a hold me Fab Long Time Ago when we was fab Time is the answer
  15. https://youtu.be/3wbDQe-TMpo Posted by Iamaphoney on the anniversary of God's death in 2007, never saying why he posted it. So if the Is God Dead issue of Time and the Atlanta based obituary for God on November 9th 1965 is the answer, there must be clues tracking back to this, right? The story unfolds before your eyes and ears for those that connect the dots. Many of you see things that are not there. Much energy spent on ghosts that fail to materialize. Questions Asked That Lay unanswered which will add a crucial piece of the puzzle. Too many people doing too many things to notice the key that lies at your feet. Get back to the basics. Tread old ground, for there are truly flowers in the dirt. Apollo C Vermouth Pardon the intrusion... Keeping in mind the somewhat sinister origins of many of the "Mother Goose" nursery rhymes, you may find the following read interesting enough to reconsider the song "Cry Baby Cry." When John was interveiwed for Playboy magazine, and giving insights to some of better works stated that the song was "rubbish" and not one of his. Yet, he repeats the theme for the song "Cleanup Time" on Double Fantasy" almost word for word. He must not of hated it THAT much. Here is how "coded messages" were being sent via harmless "nursery rhymes." www.snopes.com/lost/sixpence.htm Apollo C Vermouth The duchess of Kircaldy always smiling And arriving late for tea The duke was having problems With a message At The Local bird and bee If I have made your investigations harder by showing you new "flowers in the dirt", I have done my job. You will soon discover the answers you seek to questions not yet asked. If you take my words and discredit the messenger, so be it. I am not here to supply you with answers. That is your job. I will however assist in any form that I am at liberty to share with you. "What did you see while you were there? Nothing that doesn't show." Apollo Post by Apollo C. Vermouth on Aug 31, 2003 at 12:41am A fine job, indeed. The real test comes once the music starts. The cover clues leave no doubt as to "who" is plucking the strings. The upper corners of the cover depict a familiar beast. What do you make of the bottom ones? Keep searching the clues on the door. One in particular is all you need. Apollo Here is a post from this forum about Ringo's quote about Rotogravure and the door. From a press conference in Amsterdam, 1976: Question: There is a photo of the front door of Apple on the back of the cover, where did you get it? Ringo: Neil Aspinall took it and sent us one each an I thought, "I'm gonna put it on the back of the album." It's a front door, but it's a back door too. It's got all these names scrawled on it from Finland. That's why you're getting a magnifying glass with the album, so you can read it all. And I thought it would be a nice bit of fun, especially for those who actually wrote on it. It used to be so smart, with a doorman and a pretty letterbox, and now it's just...yeah! I wonder if there's something being telegraphed with the "names from Finland" remark? One more thing, his "It's a back door too" remark.. From a Wiki entry: A backdoor in a computer system (or cryptosystem or algorithm) is a method of bypassing normal authentication or securing remote access to a computer, while attempting to remain hidden from casual inspection. In other words, a way of gaining access (to a computer's secrets) while remaining undetected, and not using the normal means of access. So Ringo singles out Finland. Harry Nilsson, one of the artists closest to the Beatles Ambush The lamp that lights the way Is a light from yesterday. The drum which leads the way Is a sound from yesterday Paul McCartney's Amoeba's Secret LP, showing NoPID in the upper right with ATL right below it. The Run Devil Run McCartney album, the store being on Broad Street in Atlanta.
  16. We were talking About The Love that's grown so cold... About The Love...ATL, wouldn't mean much if it was the only time it showed up. We'll come back to that. As I was saying, Paul is Dead and God is Dead are all mixed up together. Exodus 3:14-God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you. See a pattern starting to emerge? Paul Was? God Was? And then there's the curious case of the Walrus. I AM the Walrus. Just who the walrus was seemed to be a point of contention for years. But why? It seems kind of silly, and certainly not Paul is Dead related at all, to care about who the Walrus was. Well, in the Walrus and the Carpenter, what did the Walrus do? It lured all of the oysters out of the ocean and then ate them. Kind of like all the kids who heard Sgt. Pepper and took off for San Francisco or LA in the summer of '67. She's Leaving Home and Melanie Coe. I mean, there has to be a reason why the Walrus went from John, to Paul, and then back to John again. John delivers the line I Was the Walrus but now I'm John as sort of a confessional. The song he said that on was called God by the way. But what about this- Love the 3 Beatles. Certainly that's about Paul. Well remember, the Is God Dead issue of Time fell on Julian Lennon's 3rd birthday. 3 also shows up on the back cover of Abbey Road. The Obituary for God found in Time promised a full color 24 page booklet with many pictures highlighting God's reign.
  17. August of 1966 would be regarded by any Paul is Dead afficianado as BPID, or Before Paul is Dead. There is an unseen line that has been drawn at the end of their August '66 US Tour that is supposed to be the death of the Beatles moptops, and the beginning of the more worldly mustachio'd Beatles who would eventually make their way onto the Sgt. Pepper cover. Old Beatles, New Beatles. From September of 1966 until November, the Beatles went off to do their own thing for one of the few times since the advent of the group; when they returned to the studio in November they all looked markedly different, Paul in fact looking so much different that those who later believed he had died point to this moment and say he has physically changed so much that he's not the same guy. Plus, he seems taller and isn't funny anymore. The legend has it that Paul died on November 9th of 1966 in a car accident and the Beatles, not wanting to break up the most popular band of all time, decided to replace him with the winner of a Paul look a like contest from some time back. What did in fact happen on November 9th 1966, is that John Lennon met Yoko Ono. But notice the date, November 9th. The same date as the God is Dead obituary from one year earlier that had made its way into the Time issue. Now, that may seem nonsensical until you look back a couple of months at the Beatle record burning bonfires and much of the country having turned on them over More Popular Than Jesus and just ask a simple question: Would the Beatles, especially John Lennon, just let go of the fact that they had to apologize for something they were probably right about, to appease a portion of the US that supposedly was Christian but was largely still engaging in racism? Or is the coincidence of all of the mystery starting right then not a coincidence at all. Sgt. Pepper is released on June 1st 1967 to unrivaled fanfare; it literally took over the world for weeks after its release. It also has more references to time than perhaps any record ever made. There are time references in virtually every single song. But it also has something on the cover, the cover that people think could contain ciphers, a cover that people have poured over for almost 50 years, something so elementary that it goes unnoticed: A doll, pointing at the letters ATL in Beatles. In the song Within You Without You, a song that seems totally out of place on Pepper because its so preachy, there is a simple line: We were talking about the space between us all. The space between the 4 Beatles? Look back up at the highlighted area, what falls between the 4 Beatles? The doll, the letters ATL in Beatles, and the drum. Years after Pepper's release, someone took a mirror and put it right in the middle of the drum, and this is what was found. I One IX He Die Amazingly, that can be deciphered as November 9th He Die. This may be the greatest Paul is Dead clue, given that the story had already been planted (and no one is quite sure where it came from) that Paul McCartney had died on November 9th 1966. But see what else is there, the ATL. ATL. Atlanta. See the obituary? See the date? November 9th 1965, God is Dead. God is Dead and Paul is Dead, are all mixed up together.
  18. I want to return to this thread and update on what I've been working on the past 4 years. Initially, I had viewed a number of issues that seemed to be embedded into the work of the Beatles and perceived that there was a supernatural element to a number of their materials, especially seeming to be related to the death of John Lennon. What was much more murky to me however, is what exactly the Beatles had done to cause such a thing to take place; if God (or the other team) had indeed taken an interest in the Beatles, what had they done to warrant that? Well here's what I found: Paul is Dead, is really God is Dead. If you aren't familiar with the urban legend of Paul is Dead, in 1969 a number of people on various college campuses began reporting that there had been a number of "clues" in the various Beatles materials; LP covers, lyrics, artwork, movies, etc...from 1966 to 1969 that all were supposed to signify that Paul McCartney had died and been replaced by a double, a double that not only looked just like Paul but had his voice and musical talent as well. People were quite intrigued with all of the clues, as well as the story that Paul had died on November 9th 1966 and been replaced by a guy named William Campbell. Eventually though, Life interviewed Paul on his farm in Scotland and once he appeared on the cover of Life, the furor died down, which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense either seeing as how it still could have been this "double". It then took its place as a favorite urban legend, except for a fringe element who stayed intrigued by the clues and wouldn't really let it go. Well, back in the early 2000's, a mysterious poster appeared on two of the most popular Paul is Dead forums named Apollo C Vermouth. Apollo left cryptic clues regarding Paul is Dead and the overall concept of a Beatles mystery and implied very strongly that there was indeed something to all of the clues, but perhaps no one had really figured out yet what the Beatles were really talking about; he stated again and again that Sgt. Pepper was the key to everything, that a story had been told that no one had really gotten ahold of yet and everything that the Beatles did after Sgt. Pepper was trying to point people back in the direction of the story they had missed. One day in 2008, the people who run the Nothing is Real forum announced that Apollo had died, and in fact had been Apple records head and lifelong Beatles insider Neil Aspinall. Aspinall had set up an organization back in the 1990's called Iamaphoney to tie together the various Beatles materials that had been scattered, and in 2006 a guy who went by the name Billy suddenly morphed into a character called Iamaphoney, and did a series of videos which was one of the most popular series of the early days of YouTube, videos which went very quickly from very primitive garden variety Paul is Dead clues to a much more elaborate mystery concerning the Beatles, and seemingly was suddenly blessed with the ability to access Beatles materials that no one had ever seen or heard as well as the ability to travel globally; it was and still is rumored that Aspinall's Iamaphoney organization took in the artist now known as Iamaphoney before passing away. Iamaphoney was supposed to deliver a revelation on November 9th 2012, but alas on that date he only informed everyone that he could not reveal the answer, and everyone walked away sadly. But a trail had in fact been laid, by the Beatles, by Paul McCartney, and more recently by Apollo and Iamaphoney. Which brings me to this: In October of 1965, a small group of theologins started what was known as the Death of God movement, led by Emory University's Thomas JJ Altizer. Altizer had originally penned a piece in the October 22nd 1965 issue of Time that got quite a bit of attention, and then poet Anthony Towne wrote an obituary for God and went shopping for a publication to put it into. Towne's obituary had the byline of Atlanta and was dated November 9th 1965. Then, when that date came, a blackout enveloped the entire East Coast from late afternoon into the next morning. Towne's obituary for God eventually found its way into the Methodist magazine motive in February of 1966. Then, Altizer's philosophy as well as Towne's obituary found its way into one of the most infamous issues of Time ever; the Is God Dead issue of April 8th 1966. This issue happened to fall on John Lennon's son Julian's 3rd birthday as well. A couple of weeks earlier, John Lennon had done an interview with Maureen Cleave in which he made his famous pronouncement that the Beatles had probably become more popular than Jesus now. The interview didn't ruffle any feathers when released in England; but when it was released in America on July 29th 1966 it caused a furor that threatened the Beatles careers, with DJ's renouncing them and Beatle bonfires across the Southern U.S. John and the rest of the Beatles gave the best apology they could, given that what they said was most likely accurate, during their tour of the US in August of '66 which mostly quelled the outcry; nevertheless their lives were even threatened before their Memphis concert later that month by the KKK and then a cherry bomb went off onstage during their show, when the tour ended on August 29th 1966 they had enough and decided they weren't going to tour anymore. And coincidentally, this is when all of the mystery regarding the Beatles, and especially Paul, started.
  19. Yes, and He could have had companies of angels taking care of business in His own case as well. If prophecy is involved regarding the end times it stands to reason that there are some pretty powerful opponents of nuclear confrontation in this age as well. So on that note, in your view what percentage of the witnesses who died in the few years after JFK's assassination were killed by agents (Oswald/Ruby included) vs. how many died with no trace of intelligence involvement? I don't necessarily subscribe to that particular note but I don't think that necessarily matters. I don't think the number who died in the coverup as witnesses or otherwise is known. I think, with ref to an early post re locating victims of the Rule of The Generals in the 70's, it can to some extent be known. Ditto those who can be said to have an ''unrelated'' death. Well I'm not looking to pin you to a number John, - you can't for exactly the reasons I stated. Is it an issue? my only point is that if there are enough witnesses who died within the first couple (2-5 or sooner I guess) years after the assassination to trouble any honest researcher, and yet there is no evidence in many of these cases that someone did something to cause it; and you can establish what I consider to be "coincidences" that statistically would have to be in the stratosphere in terms of probability like John Lennon dying on the date the US enters WWII and his son being born 6454 days (922 weeks) after Hiroshima and, after marrying a Japanese woman him being killed by a guy from Hawaii 6454 days (922 weeks) after his son is born, that just maybe the seeming factors at play regarding John Lennon may have been in play with regards to JFK as well? - I don't know. All I can think of saying is : So? Who honestly considers this, without attaching an unnecessary degree of morality to the possible causes? If the pct. was just 50% no trace of intelligence involvement, doesn't it still seem like an inordinately high number of witnesses to die so soon after the assassination? I mean, people have tallied this up for a reason, what do you do if half of the cases couldn't have been caused by a person, throw your hands up and say forget it, or try to figure out what else could be at work? - Well, apart from the obvious reasons a CHypothesiser considers there could be things like how say moving home cuts a number of years off your life. Have you seen the movie (uncut) The Killing of America? It's not an easy out at all... I think "So" sums it up...
  20. Lee Harvey Oswald applied for a job at a parking garage at 1208 Commerce (note the 1208) a couple of weeks before the assassination. Why? Because he didn't believe the motorcade was ultimately going to go right under his nose at the TSBD? If so, does that then lead one to believe that someone involved in the assassination must have had the route changed for Oswald's benefit in those last two weeks? Or could it have been just laid right out for him as a gift of sorts? If so, who or what did that? It isn't an out, but another factor to consider that may change certain logic in terms of what has to have happened.
  21. Yes, and He could have had companies of angels taking care of business in His own case as well. If prophecy is involved regarding the end times it stands to reason that there are some pretty powerful opponents of nuclear confrontation in this age as well. So on that note, in your view what percentage of the witnesses who died in the few years after JFK's assassination were killed by agents (Oswald/Ruby included) vs. how many died with no trace of intelligence involvement? I don't necessarily subscribe to that particular note but I don't think that necessarily matters. I don't think the number who died in the coverup as witnesses or otherwise is known. I think, with ref to an early post re locating victims of the Rule of The Generals in the 70's, it can to some extent be known. Ditto those who can be said to have an ''unrelated'' death. Well I'm not looking to pin you to a number John, my only point is that if there are enough witnesses who died within the first couple (2-5 or sooner I guess) years after the assassination to trouble any honest researcher, and yet there is no evidence in many of these cases that someone did something to cause it; and you can establish what I consider to be "coincidences" that statistically would have to be in the stratosphere in terms of probability like John Lennon dying on the date the US enters WWII and his son being born 6454 days (922 weeks) after Hiroshima and, after marrying a Japanese woman him being killed by a guy from Hawaii 6454 days (922 weeks) after his son is born, that just maybe the seeming factors at play regarding John Lennon may have been in play with regards to JFK as well? Who honestly considers this, without attaching an unnecessary degree of morality to the possible causes? If the pct. was just 50% no trace of intelligence involvement, doesn't it still seem like an inordinately high number of witnesses to die so soon after the assassination? I mean, people have tallied this up for a reason, what do you do if half of the cases couldn't have been caused by a person, throw your hands up and say forget it, or try to figure out what else could be at work? It's not an easy out at all...
  22. Yes, and He could have had companies of angels taking care of business in His own case as well. If prophecy is involved regarding the end times it stands to reason that there are some pretty powerful opponents of nuclear confrontation in this age as well. So on that note, in your view what percentage of the witnesses who died in the few years after JFK's assassination were killed by agents (Oswald/Ruby included) vs. how many died with no trace of intelligence involvement?
  23. Sure John, I'm just saying that during His time on earth He had an assignment and clearly demonstrated an independent will. Could it have been prevented though, had a person wanted to stop it?
  24. Is it possible though John that certain paths become blocked by influences we can't see? - Yes that's what I said. That doesn't mean they can't be seen. Here's the relevance. If God authored the crucifixion, do you think it would have been possible to prevent it once Jesus said yes to allowing it? - Relevant? Isn't God and Jesus one? -------- If you could demonstrate a supernatural component to events of an era like the sixties, would it then have value to consider the possibility that an event like the assassination of JFK could not only have had a supernatural helping hand but maybe some of these witnesses that died afterwards may not have been killed in fact by a hand that we could see...maybe it was supernaturally covered up as well. Something to consider... Jesus demonstrated the distinction between His Father's will and His own. He chose to comply, He did not have to...
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