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Anti-Drug Chief Ivanov: Russia Faces Dope "Apocalypse" December 2, 2010 • 9:24AM Addressing a conference in Khanty-Mansiysk, western Siberia, Russian Federal Narcotics Control Service chief Victor Ivanov yesterday characterized the drug addiction and death situation in the country as "an apocalypse." Ivanov said he had reached this conclusion after reviewing the latest statistics on deaths from narcotics use. Whereas his agency previously had estimated the annual drug death rate in Russia at 30,000 people, Ivanov said he is forced to conclude that over 100,000 Russians under the age of 30 are dying from drug use each year. The biggest killer, Ivanov confirmed, is Afghan heroin, followed by dextromethorphan derivatives of over-the-counter medications. There are heroin addiction hot spots throughout the industrial heartland of Russia in western Siberia and the Ural Mountains region. Ivanov called for convening a special session of the State Council, with the participation of Russian regions, on reducing narcotics demand. He said that Russia has at least 2.5 million full-fledged drug addicts, the majority of them addicted to heroin, with another 3 million people regularly using other drugs, including 500,000 people who are on synthetic narcotics imported from Europe. Yevgeni Royzman, head of the Drug-free City campaign, also spoke at the event, summarizing the situation as a "narco-catastrophe." He said, "We rank first in the world for heroin consumption, first in the drug addiction rate, and, accordingly, first in drug-related mortality among youth. This is why the country is now experiencing a narco-catastrophe, and any measures that will help our country get out of this situation will be good." Royzman called for emergency institution of visa procedures for travel to Russia from Tajikistan and the Kyrgyz Republic, as well as life terms in prison for drug dealers and mandatory treatment for drug addicts.

Peter, I wanted to check Blaine on this issue of narcissistic personality disorder and located a Fox interview with Blaine and Clint Hill. Listen to Clint Hill's recounting of the shooting. He fails to mention the missed shot that fragmented aand struck/nicked James Tague. These guys are just awful. They have no idea what happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAKFq6wXGKA

This explains why the British wanted America to become more internationalist than it was. They wanted to use America as a tool to expand British influence This is called "The Special Relationship". Good job Steve.

If the Inter Alpha Group is not already bankrupt there would be no need to sacrifice the Irish population to brutal austerity. Thousands Protest Against Irish Bailout Henry McDonald - Dublin More than 100,000 Irish citizens took to the streets of Dublin today to protest against the international bailout and four years of austerity. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/11/27 PS- 100,000 Irish citizens, not bad for a country of less than 5 million.

http://www.businessinsider.com/91-billion-banco-santander-is-spiraling-lower-again-today-2010-11 Are we take it based on this post that you've accepted Steve's proposal? If so you have less than 3 months for Santander to go bust. But then again anyone who's been here long enough knows you don't pay your bets even when you have overtly made them. I wouldnt worry about any bet, the entire system is bankrupt.

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The above statement proves conclusively that you can't tell the difference between your own biases and objective truth. You hate rock music and you hate pro sports and you pretend that this hatred constitutes some kind of knowable "truth". Rigid ideology dumbs people down more than anything, clearly. Sure you have. In the past you've knocked rock music and now you hypocritically knock professional sports. Just because these diversions are not of your taste you think you can frame your own bias as some sort of "truth." Swing and a miss. And when you fill your gas tank you give profits to organized crime networks. Lecture me when you have a leg to stand on, Terry. Your prejudices are not any kind of "truth." Many millions of people enjoy these events without incident, and you are going to cherry pick YouTube for isolated incidences? Pathetic. Your non sequiturs are showing, Terry. You haven't answered my question: what is it about people having fun that you hate so much? When I fill my gas tank up I give money to organized crime networks? You're absolutely daffy. I assume you're refering to the oil cartels? The development of higher forms of energy has helped mankind to develop a modern economy. Where would you be without fossil fuel energy? You'd be strumming a tree branch. Many millions of people enjoy these events without incident, and you are going to cherry pick YouTube for isolated incidences? This is identical to the drug legalization argument. Classic. It's exactly as I stated "the devil made me do it". You cannot have society impose it's will and take away my pleasures. And here is the same argument once again. Just because these diversions are not of your taste you think you can frame your own bias as some sort of "truth." See with you Cliff there is no truth, just "tastes" and everyone should be allowed to have their pleasures respected. Occam'sRazor at work.

The above statement proves conclusively that you can't tell the difference between your own biases and objective truth. You hate rock music and you hate pro sports and you pretend that this hatred constitutes some kind of knowable "truth". Rigid ideology dumbs people down more than anything, clearly. Sure you have. In the past you've knocked rock music and now you hypocritically knock professional sports. Just because these diversions are not of your taste you think you can frame your own bias as some sort of "truth." Swing and a miss. And when you fill your gas tank you give profits to organized crime networks. Lecture me when you have a leg to stand on, Terry. Your prejudices are not any kind of "truth." Many millions of people enjoy these events without incident, and you are going to cherry pick YouTube for isolated incidences? Pathetic. Your non sequiturs are showing, Terry. You haven't answered my question: what is it about people having fun that you hate so much? Are you having "fun" in a jobless and dead society? Yeah, just turn the volume up, right?

Lurie sold the team 18 years ago. I guess you missed it. Given the level of corruption among global corporate elites you'd have to live like the Amish not to engage the filthy bastards one way or another. Do you drive a car, Terry? Watch TV? Eat foods produced by major corporations? Do people who don't live according to your puritanical standards offend you? In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end. You don't understand the heroin market and its importance to the elites. Not only is it a source of untraceable black money but it is a means to cull the human herd. The Jupiter Island Gang of blue-blood elites (Rockefeller/Harriman/Bush) have always been big on eugenics, which is one reason they financed the Nazis in the 20s, 30s and early 40s. After WW2 they moved heroin into black communities, a pattern repeated in the 80's with cocaine. This is a holocaust by another means, and the prime motivation for wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan. Unless you live on a self-sustaining farm and never consume petroleum products your self-righteousness is misplaced. Heaven forbid anyone should have fun in their lives! Go Giants. Let's not forget the SON of JFK Assassination sponsor Clint Murchison, Sr. was one of the owners of the Dallas Cowboys ... and the SONS of JFK assassation sponsor HL Hunt were the founders of the American football league. Constance Kritberg (and myself) believe that Clint Murchison, Sr. was one of the elite sponsors of the JFK assassination. I think the connection to football is just a coincidence ... that is what rich people do with their money: buy sports franchises. No, they manipulate the population into loving the fact they're slaves. In return for revoking their citizenship they give them "entertainment and pleasure". What did the Roman ruling elite call it "Bread and circus"?

Your attitude toward music and sports is an opinion, not a "truth." Thanks for illustrating my points about the dumbing down effects of rigid ideologies The statement above proves conclusively you don't believe in truth and furthermore you don't believe that people can know truth. This is behind your meaningless "rigid ideology" statement. Besides I made no general comment about sports and music. What I stated was "professional sports and entertainment" are owned by organized crime networks. They use these franchise to launder drug money, but more importantly they use these spectacles to dumb down the population and to bestialize them. You on the other hand prefer the old excuse "the devil made me do it". According to you society cannot impose on your pleasures.

Yes Terry, entertainment is important to help sustain and improve life. You cannot name a human culture that doesn't produce entertainment. The day you no longer indulge in the products of the corporate elite is the day you can lecture others. That depends on how you define "major." Havana ceased being THE hub of international narcotics trafficking the day Castro marched into Havana. Meyer Lansky had to move his operations to the Bahamas, and the Dominican Republic and Haiti became FAR GREATER hubs of drug trafficking than Cuba under Fidel. And Cuba is a bit player in that, Terry. Which is my point. Nothing dumbs a person down more than identifying with a rigid, self-righteous ideology. At least I don't take my Giants team anywhere near as seriously as you take Team LaRouche. Rigid self righteous ideology? Translation, "a person who asserts there is a knowable truth". You never answered "what did I write that wasnt true"? And now I have to stop eating, heating/cooling my home, walking to work? You're just slightly daffy. I thought this nonsense went out with Jimmy Carter? I would dare say that shutting down the NFL, MLB etc. and the criminal apparatus behind them would not cause loss of life. In fact every human mind in this country would experience immediate improvement. Cut out food production, industry, infrastructure and you'll get what is happening in Haiti right now. Genocide. The Roman Empire produced "entertainment" and look what happened That's the kind of entertainment we are producing.

Lurie sold the team 18 years ago. I guess you missed it. Given the level of corruption among global corporate elites you'd have to live like the Amish not to engage the filthy bastards one way or another. Do you drive a car, Terry? Watch TV? Eat foods produced by major corporations? Do people who don't live according to your puritanical standards offend you? In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end. You don't understand the heroin market and its importance to the elites. Not only is it a source of untraceable black money but it is a means to cull the human herd. The Jupiter Island Gang of blue-blood elites (Rockefeller/Harriman/Bush) have always been big on eugenics, which is one reason they financed the Nazis in the 20s, 30s and early 40s. After WW2 they moved heroin into black communities, a pattern repeated in the 80's with cocaine. This is a holocaust by another means, and the prime motivation for wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan. Unless you live on a self-sustaining farm and never consume petroleum products your self-righteousness is misplaced. Heaven forbid anyone should have fun in their lives! Go Giants. Exactly what did I write that wasnt true? That it offends you is not the issue. Your rebuttal is straight out of the "devil made me do it" hand book. Now you're comparing food production, transportation, and energy to hollywood "entertainment "? You tie them together with your "global elite" BS. Food, energy, and transportation systems are instrumental to sustain life or to improve life. Entertainment? What, watching a bunch of guys grunt and snort and beat their chest is that what you call "entertainment"? And I fail to see why the sale date of the SF Giants has anything to do with it. The grandson of late Max Fisher of the notorious Purple Gang is the latest owner of the Miami Dolphins. "Go Dolphins"!!!! So what is your point? And the following is total fantasy. Another indication that you prefer being entertained. In 1963 W. Averell Harriman, Clint Murchison, Jr. and Meyer Lanksy wanted to restore Havana as the center for international narcotics trafficking, a position it held in the 50's before Castro took over. I'd speculate that the assassination of JFK was designed to provide a pre-text for the invasion of Cuba to affect that end. Episode #33 from "As the Conspiracy Turns". For your information chum Fidel Castro for years provided a safe haven in Cuba for Lansky successor, the notorious fugitive Robert Vesco. For years that old Synarchist Fidel Castro has been a major player in international drug trafficking. Furthermore narcotic trafficking and money laundering has never been bigger, which was the point of my post to Dean. All pro sports teams are owned by organized crime. They help dumb down the population while spreading vice like gambling, drugs and other pyschosis. And that's entertainment!

Dean, Never mind that professional sports are the personal playground of organized crime. Even the notorious Lurie family and the Giants. And let's not forget the "Jacobs" family mob and Emprise "aka" Delaware North Companies have secured the majority of concession contracts at MLB and NFL games to help them launder dirty money. Who needs to get Havana back in the fold? Between all the hot money in major league sports they don't need Cuba. All they need are "fans" who never ask any questions as long as they're being entertained by "my team". But what you're watching when you watch these games is "organized crime". It doesnt matter be it the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL or the PGA Tour it's all there to dumb down the population while laundering multi millions in drug proceeds. Remember Meyer Lansky's INTERTEL? Their first client was the NFL. They are still the NFL's private security firm. The next time you read about an NFL star getting busted for drugs just think of INTERTEL. http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.gambling.poker/2006-01/msg01757.html Ed Levinson, "owner" of the Fremont, also had ties with the Chicago mob family: "In 1962 Bobby Baker had had established the Serve-U-Corporation with his friend, Fred Black, and mobsters Ed Levenson and Benny Sigelbaum. The company was to provide vending machines for companies working on federally granted programs. The machines were manufactured by a company secretly owned by Sam Giancana and other mobsters based in Chicago." From Nonmenclature of an Assassination Cabal] ["Baker called Intercontinental's chairman and arranged an appointment to see him, but on the day of the appointment, Baker showed up with mobster Ed Levison, brother to the infamous Louis "Sleep-Out Louie" Levenson, who was the original manager of Meyer Lansky's casino, the Havana Riviera in Cuba, and was now running the Fremont in Las Vegas which was secretly owned by Tony Accardo, Sam Giancana and Paul Ricca. It was also at Accardo's request that Levenson managed to get then Senator Lyndon Johnson and Baker as his first official guests at the opening of the Stardust casino back in 1955." John William Tuohy 2002] It was the ties with the Chicago mob that secured Levinson's contract for the Fremont Hotel, a property that Benny Binion was planning to develop. The loan was channeled through a legitimate backer, Lou Lurie, to mask the hidden mob involvement. Binion had offered Jack Dragna (LA mob representative) 25 points in the Fremont in exchange for putting a hit on Russain Louie, who was blackmailing Binion. After the hit, Dragna settled with Binion for a reported sum of $200,000 but did not tell Jimmy Fratianno who made the hit on Russian Louie. Here's the account From The Last Mafioso: [benny Binion promised LA mobster Jack Dragna at 25% interest in the proposed Fremont Hotel in exchange for killing Russian Louie, a card cheat that was blackmailing Binion. Jimmy Fratianno later went to Binion to collect. "You know I'm the guy that did the xxxxing job on Russian Louie, don't you?" "Yes, I know it," replied Binion. "So how come I don't get no money?" "How much do you need?" "I want sixty thousand." "You've got it Jimmy," said Binion. "Give me a couple days to get it together." "That's number one. Number two, we was supposed to get twenty-five percent of that Fremont joint. What happened to that deal?" "Jimmy don't you know what happened? Jack (Dragna) wanted cash instead

Steve, Watch Jeff Steinberg give an overview of the British Empire. This was 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dse3XCltA&feature=related Part 5 and 6 touch on the creation of the "counter culture", or the attack on the "baby boomers" who were turned away from the cultural outlook provided by Kennedy to the degenerate "sex, rock, drug" culture provided by his British murderers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXwF9nL3YQ0&feature=related

I'd rather listen to LBJ speak than take the word of Madeline Brown. Here is the LBJ interview with Walter Cronkite in 1969. Cronkite asks the former President if he is satisfied there was no conspiracy in the murder of JFK. Later in 1973 right before his death LBJ made another provocative public statement regarding the JFK assassination. He reportedly said when asked about the JFK murder "We were running a damn Murder Inc. in the carribean". Might the former President be refering to "Permindex"? Permindex was identified by French intelligence as being behind the assassination attempts against Charles De Gualle. Permindex was also fingered as being responsible for the murder of Italian industrialist Enrico Mattei. Clay Shaw arrested by New Orleans DA Jim Garrison and charged with conspiracy in the JFK case was a director of Permindex.

November 4th 2010 Port-Au-Prince, Haiti (CNN) -- A cholera outbreak in Haiti continues to spread to previously unaffected areas in rural communities, killing 442 people and hospitalizing 6,742 others, the Pan American Health Organization said Wednesday. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/11/04/haiti.cholera/?hpt=T2 An American solution to the crisis in Haiti was proposed by Lyndon LaRouche back on February 24th 2010. The cholera outbreak was perfectly predictable even as far back as February 2010. President Obama acting like GW Bush during the crisis in New Orleans would prefer to watch Haitians perish. Welcome to the new dark age.

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"Your" theory re: 9/11 just like your theories regarding just about everything else are whatever your guru and his disciples tell you. I never expressed a theory about 911. I expressed my opinion that "debunking dad" was a fraud, and it is. I can't help if you're a sucker for this kind of goofy stunt.

LaRouche made this assessment based on a dumb joke? Read closer "Stinker", that was hardly what LaRouche said. As far as predictions I recall our debate over derivatives, where you took the same uninformed position and sure enough the whole shebang came apart right on schedule. And look the "Stinker" and Healy both have the same capacity to "block" out the truth. The "debunker" and the "truther" are not so different after all.

JOHN HOEFLE: Welcome to the LaRouche PAC Weekly Report. Today is Oct. 27, 2010. I'm John Hoefle, and with me today in the studio are Jeff Steinberg and Lyndon LaRouche. So, Lyn, there's some interesting developments in the White House, among other things. LYNDON LAROUCHE: It's quite a serious one, which has cited some humorous comment over the waves, over the night. The thing is, I think most people know about it, but, the President of the United States, in a fairly ominous action -- of a different kind of ominous action, was attending a Rhode Island event which was sponsored to fund him and his campaigns, at $7,500 a clip for about 50 guests. And before the meal was served, the President got up, and announced he had to leave. He had to go home to put his children to bed, and poop the dog, or scoop the pooper of the dog. [laughter] Now, this has caused great amusement, but also, it causes great concern, which has a double side to it: The concern, on the one hand, is bad, but the implication may be good. What this indicates, that the President is very close to a total breakdown, a total mental breakdown, and he's so close, that we have to say, between now, Wednesday, and next Tuesday, when the election, or will be completed, actually, on the following day, on Wednesday, that during this period, we're at a time, where the rate of degeneration of this President's mental condition, is so rapid, and accelerating at such a rate, that we don't know he's going to make it, to the Tuesday election. Which means that, the Vice President, has now got to do some very serious rethinking, of his resistance to the 25th Amendment, section 4, option. This guy is, obviously, on the verge of a total nervous breakdown. So, we have a Woodrow Wilson case, of a different flavor, now, in the White House. And there are all kinds of things on the horizon, which shudder with the implications of this from various parts of the country. Now, the other side is, it's hopeful in the sense, that he's at the point, where people have to recognize, we have a worse than Woodrow Wilson case, in which the President's wife is not able to perform the kind of soothing function, which Woodrow Wilson's wife performed for him, in his moment of last extremity. So, that, we're going to be faced with the fact, where it becomes absolutely necessary, to immediately take the required action. Which means that the Congress will have to be called back into session, very soon, probably by Monday, at the way things are going. I can not predict exactly when, but we have to think in certain terms of reference. That the mental state of the President, as I first defined it on April 11th, 2009, has consistently followed the trend, which I have recognized since that time, and it's now come to the breaking point. What he did, last night, in Rhode Island, that walkout, shows a complete breakdown, in process. And this means, that it's not something that threatens down the line, a few weeks or so: It's now. This President is no longer competent to be President. And we have the worst world crisis, in terms of economy, that has ever existed in modern civilization, which is planet-wide. And the President of the United States is crucial, because if the United States goes under, the entire world will immediately go under in chain-reaction fashion. If the United States goes under, the British system, the Western and Central European system will go, the Russian system will go; and then later, China, India, and so forth in that part of the world. And of course, China and India, and so forth, can not sustain world stability, when the whole system has gone into something worse, on a global scale, than Weimar 1923 hyperinflation. That's where we're at that point, the equivalent of that point, but on a global scale, with none of the constraints that operated in terms 1923. This is {far worse} than 1923 Germany, on a world scale, because there's no stopping points. And many people who are leading people, economists and so forth, have gone gutless on me on this one: They're so frightened, probably by threats among other things, from the Presidency, because the threats are really out there -- this is wild, and the President is now insane! I can say, assuredly, now, with this behavior, which I've been diagnosing, accurately, since the 11th of April last year, this man is now gone completely bonkers! And you have the United States is keystone, in terms of the situation of the world as a whole, because if the United States goes, you have a chain reaction, which will wipe out this whole Inter-Alpha, among other things. It can not withstand this, because the effects are real. And people who think like the British, don't think in terms of real things. Sometimes they do, when they're getting nasty, and pulling dirty tricks on people. When it comes to this kind of reality, they're not really sane, because they're trapped in their own ideology. Usually the British are able to escape from their own ideology, and play dirty tricks, behind the screen of an ideology. But this one, they can't do. Because the whole world's going under. What we have is the situation currently, which is, the United States and other nations are already hopelessly bankrupt: That is to say, that to the degree that we are able, in a diminishing degree, to maintain the absolute necessities of human life, for a growing portion of our own population, and we have a similar situation in Europe, it's spreading around the world, you are already using up past resources. We are not supporting the world economy on the basis of presently produced resources! We're managing to struggle along, with a diminishing larder, a rapidly diminishing larger. So, at this point, if we lose the continuity, of a reversible policy, in the United States, then the United States goes under. And if the United States goes under, despite {all} the dream world from Europe and so forth, the world goes under, too. It's the end of civilization. Therefore, since we need a President, a real President -- it can even be the current Vice President; it would be suitable for this purpose, as a member of a team, a team of people who are going to work together, then we could make the necessary decisions. Because we could take the actions, which are, first, Glass-Steagall, and then, going immediately for a negotiation of an international fixed-exchange-rate system. Because the only way you can save the world, is, by now, quickly introducing, a global fixed-exchange-rate system. But to do that, first, you've got to put a Glass-Steagall law, quickly, through in the United States. And I would say, that we would push -- if I were President -- I would say we're going to push it for this coming week: both actions. And I think we could get it through, because the world now knows -- Western Europe, it's a hopeless situation. Absolutely hopeless. They may pretend otherwise, but it's hopeless. Russia has got itself into a hopeless situation, because Russian policy is now enslaved, to the pirates of the Caribbean, who are all these funny places like these islands out there, "Pidgeonhole Bank," and is running this thing in Russia or so forth. You have it both in the Antilles and so forth. JEFFREY STEINBERG: Antigua. LAROUCHE: Exactly, exactly. If you don't Russian, you can't get admission. STEINBERG: Exactly! You can't get a cup of coffee in Antigua -- LAROUCHE: If you don't speak Russian? STEINBERG: Right! [laughter] LAROUCHE: So, they're in that kind of situation. So, we have to do that. Now, the measures we have to take, are fairly simple in terms of definition. Glass-Steagall, Franklin Roosevelt's Glass-Steagall law, that's clear. It's a known entity, it worked when it was in effect, it'll work now. But without Glass-Steagall, we can not get out from under this big bubble. We've got to get out from under the bubbles. And the only way you can do it, is Glass-Steagall. But, then, you turn around, you have to look at the world situation, because the whole world is about to go into a chain-reaction collapse. Therefore, you have to immediately stop this loose money, and the only way to do, that is with a fixed-exchange-rate system. Which means, that other nations will have to do the equivalent of a Glass-Steagall reform of their own system. Now, this will mean, it will break up the whole euro system. It means destroying the euro system. But the euro system itself is inclined to destroy itself. HOEFLE: It's doing a good job of it. LAROUCHE: Right, exactly. So therefore, the Europeans have no option for survival, without getting out of the euro system. They just have to vote to agree, to cancel the whole system! The agreement is cancelled. Then Germany and other countries can begin to organize their survival, particularly if we have a fixed-exchange-rate system internationally. Now, solves the problem of China, China's relationship to the United States, a fixed-exchange-rate system, will solve the problem. The reason we have a problem, is because the United States refuses to accepted a fixed-exchange- rate system. If we have a fixed-exchange-rate agreement with China, that solves that problem. It doesn't solve Wall Street's problem, but that's simple: We eliminate Wall Street. [Hoefle chuckles] These are the kinds of remedial measures which must be taken immediately if we're going to save civilization. It's no longer a matter of a bankrupt nation, or this kind of crisis, or the other. We're now at a point, that very dramatic actions of the type that Franklin Roosevelt had in mind, this temperament of Franklin Roosevelt, going into the Presidency in 1933, {that's} what you need. That's where you're at, now. If you're not willing to think that way, you're not fit to govern the United States. And all we have to do, is have the sitting Vice President, decide he's going to act like a President. And I think if we can get these conditions through, that he will be content to be President. I don't think he would like to be President under the present conditions. I think he'd rather have the other guy take the brunt on this one. STEINBERG: Right. LAROUCHE: But I think that his long-standing desire to be President, could be realized now, to the advantage of the country and the world. Because, all he has to do, is do a few fairly simple things, which assure him, that his Presidency will be, for the next two years, a successful one. I think he'll take it! If he's convinced that that's the deal. And that would make a very simple remedy, for a lot of problems. Because the current President is clinically insane. I can say that: I'm an expert in this area. I've established my expertise. I've been right on this guy, all the way through, and I can tell you exactly what's going on inside him, his head. You do want to know about it. [laughter] STEINBERG: You actually had, the other day, the latest installment of these "Ulsterman" reports from insiders in and around the White House, an incident a few days ago, very similar to what was described in Rhode Island, on "Off the Cuff" this morning, and in the news, namely that there was a full-dress National Security Council meeting scheduled last week, to begin the process of reviewing what's going on in Afghanistan. There were 22 people in the room, it was scheduled for a certain time: Obama breezed in, 10-15 minutes late, giggling with some aides, sat down, completely disinterested; after about 10 minutes, without even taking notes, got up and left, and designated some staff people to handle the rest of the meeting, and walked out. There were people from the Joint Chiefs of Staff there, and similar reaction: You're dealing with somebody who's clearly going through a psychological meltdown. And, as you know, Lyn, we heard some reports from some leading Democrats yesterday, that there's a panic over the idea, that after Tuesday's election results, we're going to go into a situation of ungovernability. And you had a very simple answer to that, you said, "Get Obama out of there, and we've got all the conditions at hand to be able to govern, through this crisis." LAROUCHE: We have, we have. But the key thing, I understand he was giggling on the way out! STEINBERG: Yes, exactly. LAROUCHE: As well, as on the way in. STEINBERG: Exactly, yeah. LAROUCHE: Well, this guy is really cracked up. We have full evidence, as much as you get from the outside, that {this guy is a gone bunny.} He's got to be removed from the White House now. This means that the Vice President must get a majority among the members of the cabinet, he must take the action, and he must initiate, with their backing, a call for recalling the members of Congress, back to the Congress for an emergency session, to consider action under section 4 of the 25th Amendment. Get the guy out! Let the Vice President take over, preferably {before} the election on Tuesday, preferably before then! I would say, my agenda would be, to have, by the weekend, is to have -- he, the Vice President, and a majority of the cabinet, agreement that this is necessary, by confronting them with the full evidence of what the problem is here. And this Rhode Island event is drawing the last straw. This is a total gone! He's gone! And therefore, we can -- then, the Vice President can call in, the members of Congress under the provision of the 25th Amendment, and they can be faced with making the decision. Now, if we can get them in, on Monday, they're under the hammer. Because the vote is going to be -- now, there's of course, early elections in many parts of the country, but the hammer is on them, on Tuesday, in the Tuesday voting. And under those conditions, every member of Congress, his chances of being re-elected, depends on the way he votes on this question of the 25th Amendment! And also, which means, they have to jam in, on the fixed-exchange-rate system, but on the first Glass-Steagall Act. Glass-Steagall is ready to go immediately. Go with that. Go with that on Monday! If you go with that Monday, then fight out with the world getting a fixed-exchange-rate system, then by Tuesday, or Wednesday morning, you may have a go situation for recovery of the planet, with other measures taken. But right now, as long as this poor nut, this guy who's obviously clinically insane, remains President, there's no chance of doing this stuff. He certainly won't do it under it, under his condition of insanity. And I think that the White House, otherwise, the Vice President and the cabinet should be scared enough, right now, that they know they have to do something like this. And, it's not dictatorial; it's simply going back to our Constitution, and the legislation which is pertinent to that Constitution, and taking a Constitutional action, to bring stability to United States, and to restore a spark of confidence, to a world which is about ready to blow up! STEINBERG: You know, the 25th Amendment, section 4, has never been formally invoked. But it has been adopted as a consideration on a number of occasions previously, including a couple of times during the Reagan Presidency, including the day he was shot; and it also came up during the final days of Nixon. And I think that had Nixon not made the wise decision to resign and leave down, even before the impeachment trial in the Senate, there were people ready to invoke section 4, because at the very end, the reports I've gotten from people who were pretty close in at that time, is that Nixon was off the deep end: He was drinking heavily, under medication, and was ready to blow. So, Biden is afraid of the implications of it, but I think it's unavoidable, and the framers of the 25th Amendment had this exact kind of situation in mind. LAROUCHE: And Biden should recognize, that he has more to fear from not acting, than from acting. STEINBERG: Absolutely. LAROUCHE: I mean, I know the blackmail, I know the death threats, and so forth, this kind of atmosphere, which exists in that environment. Because you have some real fascists in the woodwork around there. And they're prepared to act! And the only way to stave them off, is not to coddle them. The way, is to take the preemptive action, which eliminates their power to do damage. Once we do it, I assure you, that we can get the breakup of the European Union, back to sovereign nation-states. STEINBERG: Back to de Gaulle's idea. LAROUCHE: Right. That will mean, immediately, the possibility, minus the problem we have inside Germany, of bringing Germany back into the fold as a keystone nation, rather the nation that has to pay everybody else's debts. That means, again, -- because Germany is one of the few nations which still has, residually, even though it's not using it at home, the technological capability of being a positive factor in development of other nations. We have a shortage, internationally, of the technologies required to sustain the planet. Germany has the knowledge, still, of how to do some of that production, and can be a key factor and multiplier, of the possibility of saving the planet, from this mess. But that's the condition we're faced with, right now. HOEFLE: That would be a real October Surprise -- a good one, for a change. LAROUCHE: Yeah. The point is, do we have people who have the guts to do it. And guts means, do you have the competence to understand, what it is you have to do? To understand why you must do it? It's like a decision in war, like command in warfare. It's like the case of George Washington crossing the Delaware: The United States had no ability to win a war against the British at that time. But, by Washington recognizing that, and under desperate conditions, and desperate conditions of movement, moved in on Trenton! And that saved the United States' existence, at that time! And so, in a case like this, often, in really strategic situations, like the case of Friedrich der Grosse, his famous battle, that, he had tired troops, his troop strength was less than that of the Austrian opposition, and he whipped them, by outflanking them, twice in the same day, by getting his troops, who were also ready exhausted, to make a deployment which the Austrians thought impossible, because they had a Classical double-envelopment operation in place, perfectly designed, based on the Roman example. And he outflanked them, from an inferior position in strength, in both his troops, who exhausted from a fast march, and from the fact that they were totally outnumbered. But they took these excellently poised Austrian forces, and they whipped them twice in the same day on the same battlefield. And often, in real history, -- I mean, things like that have happened in U.S. history, for example, repeatedly, military history, is, {you don't play by the rules.} You look at the table, you look what the rules are; and you add a new rule, which was not in the book then. IN warfare, you do that. You add a new rule, you added new dimension, like what MacArthur did, in Korea, in the Inchon landing! Completely outflanked the entire situation! And, it's that kind of thinking, which as it applies to political actions, in general, including financial-political actions, as well as to warfare, that you must, in a strategic situation {think strategically}! And you have to think in these kinds of terms, like those of Friedrich der Grosse and so forth: You must think, outthink! Get off the table! Don't play warfare on the table! Play {off} the table, attack the table from outside. And that's what was required here: A very simple kind of action: You want, impeachment, Glass-Steagall, and go for negotiating a fixed-exchange rate system. Those are the measures which can lead to the survival of civilization! Simply outflank the situation, the present situation, in the simplest possible way. Because, the minute you show the American people, in particular, that we have a scheme that's going to prevent them from going Hell, which they're going to right now, they're going to react positively. They'll say, "At last! The bullxxxx's over." STEINBERG: Well, you've got, just in the immediate days ahead, not only do we have the elections, next Tuesday, Nov. 2nd, but the exact same day, you have the FOMC -- Federal Open Market Committee -- meeting. And by every indication, they're prepared to go with a complete hyperinflationary blowout policy, maybe as much as $4 trillion, in new, hot money, to bail out this mortgage-backed securities and the rest of the bubble. LAROUCHE: What about a Glass-Steagall law at that point? STEINBERG: Exactly, exactly! LAROUCHE: That's outflanking the sons-of -- STEINBERG: Exactly. And then, days later, you've got the G20 meeting in South Korea. We got a question from one of our Asian diplomatic contacts just earlier today, because you had this meeting last weekend of the finance minister and central bankers of the G20, and Geithner was there. And the meeting was, by all accounts, complete hysteria over this hyperinflationary issue, which they characterized as "competitive devaluations." But the South Koreans came out of it, saying that out of the chaos, at least there was an agreement to avoid getting into this kind of currency war race to the bottom, and the question posed was, "Are we at a moment, where it's appropriate to put this question of a New Bretton Woods fixed-exchange-rate system on the table?" LAROUCHE: Take the question of China, the neighbor of Korea -- China, think of it. STEINBERG: Right. LAROUCHE: What is the issue, because the United States and China? Now, if we start with Glass-Steagall, we get Obama out, get Glass-Steagall and we go to a proposal of a fixed-exchange-rate system -- will the Chinese support a fixed-exchange-rate system? STEINBERG: Hundred percent. LAROUCHE: Will the Indians support it? STEINBERG: Absolutely. [laughs] They'll rejoice. LAROUCHE: Will the Russians support it? STEINBERG: Mm-hmm. LAROUCHE: Well, it would mean some shakeups in Russia. STEINBERG: Yeah, exactly. LAROUCHE: Will Europe support it? Well, if it means the breakup of the European Union. Break that up, now. And then Europe is freed from this garbage. Germany begins to function immediately, again, provided they get the nuts out of control. France will probably have a new President, because this one will probably -- like Rumpelstiltskin, will probably tear himself apart, in rage, at the change. STEINBERG: [laughs] Right! Follow Michelle Obama's example. LAROUCHE: Exactly! So, under those conditions, by flanking those conditions properly, and moving on actions which are in the common interest of nations, particularly of nations which have a consciousness of this point of interest, and realize that a common interest on this question is the best solution, and if China's in agreement with this, well, what can the United States say? The United States having a fixed-exchange-rate system with China, Japan, and Korea, and India, means that the whole world is going to go back in order. It won't be nice at first -- it'll muddy, it'll be broken down, and shantytown. {But!} We will be on the way {up}, rather than the way down. HOEFLE: I look at this, and I keep thinking about the Malaysian monkey trap. [laughter] LAROUCHE: You like that, huh? HOEFLE: Yeah! Because, all we have to do, is let go of our delusions and we can solve these problems, LAROUCHE: Exactly. HOEFLE: And there's nothing really complicated about it. It's not hard to understand policies. The difficulty is finding the {guts} to look it in the eye, and say, "Okay, look, this is {nuts}! And we can't continue to do this. We have to give this up!" LAROUCHE: The problem is, only in shocks do people "get it," when they see, this is the only available solution, because it's the only available, visible solution, it's made visible to them, they will tend the accept it. And if some important nations start the process, you will get the agreement. The problem is, that most people, including most governments, and most political forces in the world, are not competent in economy. So they don't understand economy as a principle. They have no competent understanding of economy as a principle -- they're monetarists. But, when they're faced with a certain concrete situation, in which a certain agreement on monetary affairs, is necessary to save their {butt}, they will adopt the policy on the basis of the need to save their butt right now! And it's only under conditions of an {immediate} crisis, that you can get those kinds of decisions through. Because you don't have nations, which have populations, or leadership, which are competent to deal with this situation! But, they're competent to react, in a certain way, under certain conditions. And as long as you're not doing any damage to civilization, which means, you're not going to start setting up dictatorships, but quite the contrary, since you're going back to sovereign nation-states and negotiate with sovereign nation-states on common interests, and you're going to see to find common interests, rather than this kind of bullying operation. And that's the only way, at a time like this, that you can get through the change which is needed. And the changes have to be elementary: Impeachment, Glass-Steagall, and then go for fixed-exchange-rate system. Those measures will, in and of themselves, which are feasible, now on a global basis, with good negotiations, those measures alone will save the United States, and will permit the saving of the world situation. And that's the only shot there is. Because, it's simple! What can you get through, which will actually solve the problem, not what you think you can get through -- that's the usual stuff -- but what can you get through that will {solve the problem.} That little thing "solve the problem" is the clause you have to attach to any of those things, or policy recommendations. HOEFLE: The consequences of not solving the problem, are a descent into a new Dark Age. LAROUCHE: Exactly! HOEFLE: And we're in it, we're in it, and we have to start climbing out of it, very quickly. LAROUCHE: I saw a thing, this "Red, White, and Blue" thing [candidates' debate] in Texas. And you had this loud-mouth, babbling representative of the Democratic Party faction, just doing everything to block Kesha out, possible. Well, we fixed that, because Kesha went out, and made her own statement, which was probably one of the most -- is the most decent kind, of statesmanlike promotion, by any candidate, in sight, in this entire period! Her statement to the world, on the situation in Texas, and her appeal on this situation, is the finest statement, of statesmanship, that I've seen produced on the hustings, in this whole season! And I think intelligent people in Texas, and around the world, will appreciate that fact! Because she spoke the truth, and spoke it plainly, and clearly! And simply! And that's the way you have to deal with the American people, at this time. You've got to give them clear, relevant, and simple proposals, for actions which they can look back on, and say, it was the right decision. STEINBERG: Lyn, in that context, the other thing that you've been pushing very strongly for the last several months, as the cornerstone to a recovery policy for the U.S., is the North American Water and Power Alliance, program, which is getting a lot of enthusiasm and traction among the engineering and related fields, that understand the implications of this. LAROUCHE: What we've got, is a situation, essentially, all we have to do is get the agreement with Canada, and Canada really has no good choice, except to do this. Because they're suffering, maybe more or less, than we are, in their circumstances. Also, the future of Canada, depends, as the Canadian government and others know, on the Arctic question: That the challenge to Canada for its future, as a nation, dependents upon cooperation on the Arctic, for various reasons. Now, the only way that can be realized -- Canada can not handle that by itself; it can not solve that problem. {But!} Canada in a partnership, with the United States, and with giving something to Mexico, as a bribe, shall we say -- that's what you have to do, at this time, NAWAPA will mean, for this area, an increase of {4 million productive jobs}. And the actual rostering of that employment, will come immediately. In other words, it won't be "eventually," 4 million jobs, it will mean that the rostering of the cadre which is going to start the process and the follow-up of getting more people involved, up to 4 million people will come very rapidly! It will be on credit, yes! But, by the Glass-Steagall measure, you will be able, therefore, to stop this flow of bailout -- you just cancel it! And they've got these guys who have these bailout funds, they're going to sit ther,e and they're either going to pay the debt themselves, or they're going to be liquidated. So therefore, at that point, the Federal government will have the ability, to issue credit for two general purposes: One, we have states that {are now nonfunctional!} We have also major cities in these states, which are nonfunctional, and in other communities. Therefore, we have to have Federal bailout, for these states, state governments, and for key municipal governments, and others. Now, that's one thing. That's not a safe investment, but that's an investment in the security of the nation, and of the states. We can not have police fired, firemen fired, municipal functions destroyed -- it can not be allowed. All right, Wall Street's going to have to eat that! STEINBERG: Right! LAROUCHE: Then, we have to then have projects, which will actually generate a reconstruction of what had been the industrial product of the United States, and agriculture. Now, we have two problems we face: One is the lack of the industrial and related development, which is the infrastructure of industrial development. Secondly, is we have a water crisis in the United States, based on the sinking of the aquifers around the area of the 20-inch rainfall line. If these two things are not addressed, we can't rebuild the United States. There's no solution. {But!} If we enact NAWAPA, we {immediately} put people to work, in the NAWAPA project itself, in millions of people, because that's what it's going to take. You're going to have to set up construction in various parts of the NAWAPA project, in various parts. You're going to have build up a whole apparatus, in each area of the buildup -- like the state of Idaho is going to become a bonanza for employment! Because it's got control with the greatest concentration of the pumping function of the entire system. So, Canada will benefit immediately, in a tremendous degree. Whole things that are not possible for Canada now, will become possible. So, now we have these areas we're going to develop: This will take us, really, involve about 3 million people employed. Now, in order to do this, we're going to have to get a lot of material into those areas, where the actual construction of NAWAPA is occurring. We're going to have to revive the economies of Pennsylvania, of Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, out to St. Louis: because it's in that area where we have the greatest concentration of {lost} capacity, which can be revived, in terms of skills and traditions, to produce a new set of modern rail systems. And also, when you're going into mountain areas, you don't want a rail system -- you want a maglev system. In other words, you're going up a few thousand feet, in this area, like Idaho, you don't want to have a train that's running on straight rail. You need a maglev system, which is the only efficient way, to actually deliver freight, into those areas as such. Therefore, so, now you're going to create, in addition to the NAWAPA project itself, the NAWAPA project is going to depend upon a supply which has to come from other parts of the United States. So you're going to revive everything that looks like a decent industrial capability of the United States, and a scientific capability, and you're going to put it back to work! Because it's going to be employed, because the NAWAPA project is going to demand that employment! Now, all this stuff, in terms of -- you talk about 30-year financing, credit financing: Well, in 30 years or so, by the time we have the essentials of NAWAPA completed, everything would be liquid! We would have increased the productivity of the United States, you would have a growth in productivity, backed by solid physical assets, and by assets in the form of the developments of the minds and capabilities of large parts of our population, which are no longer presently capable of doing anything. So, these two approaches: One, deal with the emergency situation. Stabilize the states immediately; put them through reorganization, under Federal protection and subsidy. That stabilizes the population. Now, get a real driver, and a big driver, which is NAWAPA, and NAWAPA will mean the implication of having {4 million jobs}, real jobs, productive jobs! In the United States, {fast!} That means we go from a bankrupt economy, to a reviving economy: It's the same principle that Franklin Roosevelt used, when he came into office, with a plan. Well, this is a plan! The plan exists. We're not imitating what happened with the Tennessee Valley Authority: This is a much bigger, and much higher quality. We're now in space! Because we're now going into the Arctic area, which Canada has to go into, too; but, we're going into the Arctic area, not as a subsidizing the Arctic area, but we're using the Arctic area development, to enable NAWAPA! So, there's a payback, coming in the line right away. Now, with the transportation system you have to build, in Canada and in the United States, in order to handle this process, you are going to revive the economies of these countries, and put them on a growth pattern, which is otherwise impossible. And once we do that, then we're going to go cross the Bering Straits, probably with both, a tunnel and a rail system -- both, would make sense. Then Russia, with this whole area of Siberia, which is now neglected, but has a rich concentration of essential resources, the people of Asia, in particular, need -- but Russia's not able now to develop that, although we have the scientific capability among some people as old as I am, in Russia, who know how to do these things. So therefore, now you're giving Russia, a program which will solidify its cooperative relationship with China. China requires, from Russia -- it doesn't require putting Chinese people into Siberia; what it requires is developing, in the Siberian area, and similar places, developing the sources of minerals, especially rare earth, all kinds of things which are needed by China and by India, by the southern part of Asia. So therefore, you now have got a program, which is now saving Russia from the present crisis, helping China to develop, solve its problem; you're helping India, you're helping the nations of Asia. You also are creating a market by this development, for Europe! Because Europe, particularly France and Germany, can readily participate in a significant way, in the development centered in Asia. So therefore, we have at hand, with a few, simple conceptions, as like what we planned on the Darién Gap, this same kind of thing: We have the ability to change the character of the planet, from a dying planet, which it is now, to a viable planet, with a few, clearly struck, identifications of measures to be taken. And other measures which are obvious will follow. We've created the impetus for the other measures which we want to consider, to come into reality. You never started a great project of this type, without great spillovers, that you didn't really plan for. STEINBERG: Right. [laughs] LAROUCHE: You just start to get what's called "famous American ingenuity," which we used to have! What you have to do, is build an industry, one industry in a metropolitan area, and you will find all kinds of industries, smaller ones that are springing up, which you didn't really plan for! [laughter] STEINBERG: Right! People dusting off inventions that they've had sitting in their garage for decades! LAROUCHE: You need to get that spirit going back among our people. HOEFLE: This is the antithesis of this green fascist movement. LAROUCHE: Sure. Well, the green fascist movement is worse than that: This is a legacy of the Cult of Delphi, among others: That in ancient times, when maritime technology was the leading part of the world, and the monopoly on maritime technology was held by a very small part of the world population, these were the people who could navigate from across the Atlantic Ocean, into the Mediterranean, into the Pacific region, Indian Ocean region. And so, these mariners became, in the fall of the Persian Empire, became actually the dominant factor, in Europe, through the Mediterranean, largely. And a whole section of these mariners became, what they call -- they called themselves "gods." And you had Aeschylus' famous {Prometheus} trilogy, of which the middle part survived, {Prometheus Bound}, that this conception was, that the gods prohibit the other people, from having the rights of the gods, and therefore, they would say, "we don't allow fire," which is what is used in the Aeschylus -- "we don't allow fire" to the poor people. "Fire is only for the gods. " Now, who were the gods? The gods are this caste, which comes from a maritime culture, which has a superior technology to that of the land-lubbers. And therefore, they used this superiority for a tyranny, and they actually control the {size} of the populations of people, because if the people become skilled, then the people can not be controlled by the oligarchs. Therefore, you have to keep the people {stupid}: Don't let them have technology, like the use of fire, because the difference between mankind and an ape, is fire. Apes don't like fire! Mankind lives on fire. There's a big difference! So therefore, you had this kind of system. So, we have a legacy of oligarchism, which in terms of European and trans-Atlantic civilization, comes out of this area, this maritime area, this oligarchical system. They are the ones who invented the idea of currency as a medium of empire. In other words, what we call currency today, has no real value. It has no intrinsic value. And, as a matter of fact, the problem is, when we treat money as value, we do what was done now: We try to get money, but we do it by destroying physical production, and the means of labor. So therefore, our conception of value, by attributing value to a monetary system, then what you're doing, you're destroying the people and you're destroying the system. And that's what the problem has been. So the idea of a fixed-exchange-rate system, and a system like the system in Massachusetts, during the period under -- STEINBERG: The Mathers, and -- LAROUCHE: Yeah, before the British came in there, and screwed it up, in Massachusetts. That's been the great crisis: The domination of the world, by intrinsically imperialist networks, of monetarists systems -- sometimes in quarrel with each other, sometimes altogether -- and we've now got this sense of an altogether monetary system. The monetary system must be destroyed. Because what we're doing, is, we're not paying enough, to pay for the cost of production, of things that we need! In terms of infrastructure and anything else. And the reason we're not, is because we're allowing a bunch of parasites, to use their control over the monetarists, to use their control over the monetarist system, to milk and loot the population, and destroy the economy! So therefore, this was always the implication of the American System, as against the European monetarist system, or the Venetian system, as it's sometimes called. And so, this is the problem: We have to realize, that the reason we're in trouble, is because we have gone to a {monetarist} system, which came to us, as a break from the Roosevelt system. First of all, the break from Roosevelt himself, and his policy, which is his death. And then, the monetarist reforms, like 1971, and also, it was done, again, by J.P. Morgan and Co., with unleashing this great wave of speculation, financial speculation, which we have today! So, essentially, we have to wipe the books of this crap! Go back to a fixed-exchange monetary system, of a Roosevelt type, to a Glass-Steagall standard in banking, and then we're all right. But, the problem is, if we do that, we're going to destroy Wall Street, and London. HOEFLE: Oh, no! [laughter] LAROUCHE: Isn't it awful? I mean -- destroying all those poor people on Wall Street! And those firms, those parasites. We don't show decent respect for parasites, these days! STEINBERG: But under NAWAPA, there will be decent jobs for them, in Idaho, to learn some basic skills. LAROUCHE: I'm not sure about that! I don't even think they'll want to live under a system, which actually works to human benefit! It's contrary to their instincts. STEINBERG: Lyn, before we end today, the other development that you forecast, and warned about last February, that's surfaced just in the last few days, is this eruption of cholera in, not only Haiti, but also across the Atlantic, in Central Africa. But, in the Haiti case, this is a totally, manmade crisis, because, everybody knows that with the availability of fresh water, and minimal sanitation, you can wipe out a cholera epidemic very quickly: And here you've got the President of the United States, who at any moment, could order the U.S. military, the medical ships, and everything else, in there; this problem could be solved. But you've got an absolute commitment to let those people in Haiti die. LAROUCHE: {It's the intention, to let them die!} The intention by the President of the United States, to let them die! Because he's been presented with the facts, by the former President of the United States -- STEINBERG: Right, exactly. LAROUCHE: Clinton. He's been presented with this, explicitly. And he said, "No." Now, the dying has started, and the President of the United States, who is going clinically insane, in the meantime, has now made a decision, {to let this rip!} This puts him in the Hitler class, together with his own health-care policy, which he borrowed from Tony Blair. Who is also a no-goodnik. STEINBERG: Right. Which was borrowed from Hitler, directly. LAROUCHE: Exactly: Copied from Hitler. But the British introduced it to Hitler. STEINBERG: I mean, it's really striking, that really, in a few week period, you had, on the one hand, the role of NASA as part of an international rescue operation down in Chile with the miners, as an example of what can be done, on very short notice, when you unleash human creativity, and technological skills, to solve a life-and-death problem. And then, you've got the President of the United States, and people in the Congressional Black Caucus, are cursing him out over the fact that they know what has to be done in Haiti, and it simply requires the President, lifting his block on it! So, they know that it's willful murder! LAROUCHE: Why don't we admit to the fact that President will never agree to it? STEINBERG: Exactly. LAROUCHE: Okay: Therefore, if you want to do something, you have to eliminate this President. Send him into the nuthouse, which is where he belongs, right now. STEINBERG: Yeah. So, back to John's Malaysian monkey trap. I guess the message to Joe Biden, is "let go of the nut." [laughter] HOEFLE: Yeah! "Let go of the nut, and we'll be on the path to recovery!" LAROUCHE: I think that's a good motto for this week, don't you think? Let go of the nut! Crack the nut! Stop the shell game. HOEFLE: Well, that seems like a good place to break. LAROUCHE: Get out of the monkey trap. HOEFLE: Yeah, that's your thought for the day. This has been the LaRouche PAC Weekly Report. Thank you for watching, and we'll see you next week.

Them discussing it at home in no way precludes "YD" from blogging as well. Your problem is that you area Larrouchite who at 65 accepts unquestioningly your messiah and his disciples pronouncements and thus cant fathom someone one fifth your age thinking for himself. I asked Barrett and his kid about your theory. The former wrote: Don't misunderestimate YD! He's my son, and he isn't being manipulated. He just enjoys arguing. YD has already had several letters to the editor published in local newspapers, mainly on the subject of animal rights. And BTW Len, if you like YD, remember, I'm his homeschool teacher. As I told Hannity, I teach people to think for themselves, not regurgitate whatever some authority figure tells them. October 26, 2010 8:20 PM http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2010/10/debunking-911-dad-debunking.html?showComment=1288149647873#c4620062921501044435 YD wrote The only thing that's manipulating me is research and common sense. SCARY twoofers SCARY Don't want to learn any facts, else you might actually learn something! http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=6484542#post6484542 IF you scroll up a few posts on the same page youll see that someone said the following about you: What a stupid woman! Who do you think is manipulating him, his dad? What is my theory "Len Brazil" aka "Thinker" Just as I stated, you fed the trolls and they burped right on que. 911 conspiracy mongers and their trolls the "debunkers" are manipulated nit wits. How else explain the never ending conspiracy theories and those who debunk this worthless garbage? What point does it all serve? It obfuscates the real intent of 911 which if understood would narrow the list of suspects. Think Len, think. "In 2007, University of Michigan students brought me and Kevin Ryan to campus to debate 9/11 with one or more of their professors. Thousands of invitations were issued and more than 1000 DVDs given away. The only responses were from two engineering professors, both of whom privately admitted that the World Trade Center was obviously destroyed by controlled demolition, but that stating this in public would threaten their careers. Since no opposition could be found, Kevin Ryan and I staged our own debate, taking turns attacking and defending the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST Report on the Twin Towers". I get it this all a distraction to draw attention away from your messiah's take on what happened. Let me guess it was those evil Brits and their lackyboys the Zionists. Funny the Jewish wife of the leader of an obscure political cult leaves her husband for an Englishmen and nearly 40 years later his followers believe the British and Zionists are at the root of all evil. If someone wrote a non-satirical book along those lines in the early 70's it would have been dismissed as absurdly unrealistic. From the "Stinker" Len Brazil. Go get those Truthers! What exactly is my theory?

If we accept Jim's "logic" we must assume he and Julia Child were still doing intel work tin the 60's Marcuse is an interesting character.

Them discussing it at home in no way precludes "YD" from blogging as well. Your problem is that you area Larrouchite who at 65 accepts unquestioningly your messiah and his disciples pronouncements and thus can’t fathom someone one fifth your age thinking for himself. I asked Barrett and his kid about your “theory”. The former wrote: Don't misunderestimate YD! He's my son, and he isn't being manipulated. He just enjoys arguing. YD has already had several letters to the editor published in local newspapers, mainly on the subject of animal rights. And BTW Len, if you like YD, remember, I'm his homeschool teacher. As I told Hannity, I teach people to think for themselves, not regurgitate whatever some authority figure tells them. October 26, 2010 8:20 PM http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2010/10/debunking-911-dad-debunking.html?showComment=1288149647873#c4620062921501044435 YD wrote The only thing that's manipulating me is research and common sense. SCARY twoofers SCARY Don't want to learn any facts, else you might actually learn something! http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=6484542#post6484542 IF you scroll up a few posts on the same page you’ll see that someone said the following about you: “What a stupid woman!” Who do you think is manipulating him, his dad? What is my theory "Len Brazil" aka "Thinker" Just as I stated, you fed the trolls and they burped right on que. 911 conspiracy mongers and their trolls the "debunkers" are manipulated nit wits. How else explain the never ending conspiracy theories and those who debunk this worthless garbage? What point does it all serve? It obfuscates the real intent of 911 which if understood would narrow the list of suspects. Think Len, think. "In 2007, University of Michigan students brought me and Kevin Ryan to campus to debate 9/11 with one or more of their professors. Thousands of invitations were issued and more than 1000 DVDs given away. The only responses were from two engineering professors, both of whom privately admitted that the World Trade Center was obviously destroyed by controlled demolition, but that stating this in public would threaten their careers. Since no opposition could be found, Kevin Ryan and I staged our own debate, taking turns attacking and defending the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST Report on the Twin Towers".

What's your take on Herbert Marcuse?

Believe what you want. I mentioned nothing of anyone using this kids name. I stated that the whole thing lacked credibility and it still does. I don't care what you, Jim Fetzer or anyone else thinks. I don't think Kevin Barrett's 13 year old son would take it upon himself to "debunk dad" without being manipulated into doing so. Furthermore I don't care who is manipulating the kid. I find the 911 Truth Movement to be as synthetic as those who have kept the JFK assassination machine rolling all these years. Your arrogance is amazing you presume to know more about the kid than his own father who is home schooling him. Of course you don't want to touch on "who is manipulating the kid" because there are no likely candidates, is it the mother? Or perhaps his brother who is about 2 years older? Oh, so his father is homeschooling the kid. Geeze they could never discuss their differences then could they? Rather lets start a blog that give "trolls" something to get excited over. Nah, no manipulation here.