Kirk Gallaway

W. I gleaned your very good article in the Political Discussions forum . It does seem like the one issue where I would have preferred Obama as President over Biden is the Israel Hamas War. As Obama was rightfully opposing Netanyahu and it almost appears that Biden started out using "atonement" with Bibi for Obama's sins for offending him! Obviously Bibi was very upset at Obama's peace accords with Iran and was very happy when Trump came in and pulled every lever with Trump to make sure he destroyed it. Of course, when Bibi came to Washington, he completely bypassed and snubbed meeting Obama and talked directly and wooed favor from the Republican Congress, who love him! Hey, I'm for decreased U.S. Defense expenditures. But there seems to be a sort of myopic projection back to the 60's here about the current U.S. military establishment. Correct me where I'm wrong, but from what I gleaned, it's worth mentioning that all of Trump's first cabinet military leaders were very much in favor of keeping the Iran peace initiatives as well as the MIC (Rex Tillerson), until Trump replaced them and Mike Pompeo, a known Iran hawk, became Trump's Secretary of State. I think the world, at this time would be at least a little closer to Peace if we had better relations with Iran,. though I don't claim to know the ins and outs of the Iran Peace initiative. I know the Iranians were hoping to start it up again when Trump left office. But Biden's put a lot more conditions on it and it failed, to Bibi's delight! Why do you think Biden jettisoned it?

Former Australian P.M Malcolm Turnbull says "When Trump's with Putin, it's like a 12 year old who goes to High School and meets the captain of the High School football team. Trump, the other day: "How many judges do I have to endure until somebody steps in? Somebody steps in? to do what Donald? To attack the judges or kill them?"

Sandy, As far as redefining the cooler descriptions. I'm used to it. I think by reading the descriptions of the 3 coolers, it's easy to understand your intentions. Maybe Cliff can give you a better description. To address your earlier post, Sandy. I also became disgusted with the direction of the 56 year thread and quit. You notice I didn't post at all in at least the final 10 pages. It's a tough job. But IMO a certain individual in particular was allowed to get out of control when they could have been nipped in the bud much earlier. I saw it all coming. To me, it became like the LAPD during the Rodney King riots. I think the mods just let it go completely to sh-t so we could get rid of it. I wasn't around for the end. I read it yesterday, and in the last couple of pages , there were people trying to re civilize the conversation.

Ok, That's Sandy's definition. I would have worded it differently. But you see it in distinction to the other 2 topics, so you see what he's going for and you can open it up and see. I thought Sandy did it pretty well, and you challenge the other side on the third option if you are so inclined.

Cory, in your honor, maybe we should change the name of this thread to "Sleuth of Ruth" heh heh You know I like you. Ok, Let's focus, and wrap this up. I don't need diversions about Cliff, and .Imdb, and this has nothing to do with whether Ruth knew the parade route. You asked this. And I answered one of several reasons that haven't already been given, that is they are 2 women with 4 children under 4 and may not like the prospect of minding them in big crowds. If you don't understand that answer, my guess is that married with children in Cory's life could be a very rude awakening! You might skip it! heh heh

Don't be coy. So you got 4 kids under 4, and one of them is a month old, and your wife loves to take them to parades? Well you're not typical.

? Why can't I just go to Cory?

Cliff, So you want to delete some of your links? I was able to go there and copy links. Go to "Political discussions", you'll see it there. I don't know if maybe the reason you haven't posted in the water cooler is because it's kind of confusing the way it is now. I'm trying to correct that and make it easier.

You did bring this up before Cory. Of course, why wasn't everybody in Dallas there? Cory: Namely, why she did not go down to the parade with Marina and children? Do you have kids Cory? Ruth Paine had 2 kids 4 and 2. Marina had 2 kids, one kid was 1 and a half, and one daughter was one month old! I assume if you had kids, that question wouldn't be such a mystery.

In the 80's, Bibi confidently brags about how he owns us!

Ben, The 56 year thread is permanently closed. I never suggested the 56 year thread would be moved on to this main page. What I suggested is if you pick the Water Cooler thread option on this JFK side, there would be a picture of the latest poster as in every other thread. And by clicking it, it would take you directly to the water cooler page, where you could still post your alternative view option.. It would save time and clicks.

At a certain point, just as in Ukraine, you have to draw the line when a country invades another's country's sovereignty. Israel escalated their conflict by invading Syria and bombing Iran's embassy.Then Biden won't stand up to Bibi about it. So now It's obvious Iran did a largely telegraphed ineffectual bombing back to save face but not to escalate a conflict with a superior opponent. The result is called "bullying." And Biden' doesn't have the balls to publicly call out Bibi on it. And Bibi got away with another one.. I'm watching CNN and this Jim Sciutto who now has a book about geopolitics (I thought he was a news anchor!) and he asked hopefully of a guest if this incident might help break the U.S. logjam and get more funding for Israel! It must be a secure feeling for Bibi to know that he can just bomb a foreign country and have the American taxpayer empty his pockets to stake the Israeli War Machine even further. Now this morning I see ABC's Martha Raddatz, war groupie, aching to go on assignment is somewhat exhilarated but "cautious." Obviously the U.S. is so powerful no civilized countries in Europe who wonder why is the U.S. is so in bed with Israel about this, would dare utter anything in opposition.

Welcome, Kevin, that was a good interview.. I agree with you it was not the oil depletion allowance or the right wing hard monetarists claims that JFK wanted to buck the Fed ,and the financial establishment. The theory that was very prevalent here that was propagated a lot by Oliver Stone and Jim di Eugenio is that the MIC, the mighty generals and big industrialists revolted when they found out JFK was going to pull out of Vietnam. I never bought that. Though I can understand Oliver Stone served his country and wanted to make some sense of it. I agree with your conclusions on this. Though it could hardly be said to be any smoking gun. Maybe about 7 years ago, when the forum IMO was really stagnant and seemed to be moving in lock step with the Dulles did it declarations of a couple of highly touted authors, I circulated this phone call in a thread to a stony silent reception. A couple of years later, when things had loosened up a bit, i posted it again, noting the previous reception in essence saying "Is there some reason we can't discuss this ? I'd like to hear anybody's reaction " and it was better. But the overwhelming response was that RFK suspected Dulles of killing his brother just as much as they all did. And was just going undercover and "feeling out" Dulles in the phone call. I didn't see it that way. i think if RFK had strong suspicions about Dulles, he wasn't the sort to hide it., and despite the well documented hostility between RFK and LBJ, I think they actually were working in tandem for the good of the country. (oh how could that be!) I think after the assassination RFK's, "Your guys did it " to Mc Cone was just a shot in the dark and he was totally overwhelmed with the question of who among the many possibilities could have killed his brother for probably quite a while. Dulles to RFK : "What is the timing on this?, I'm on this other commission you know, and we're trying to finish up our work". https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/secret-white-house-tapes/conversation-allen-dulles-and-robert-kennedy-june-23-1964

I will say KK has a point that intelligence could just make up BS stories about doomsday threats to Johnson to justify FISA warrants. But to assume that under some situations FISA warrants aren't necessary is just plain naive. But what kind of BS excuse could intelligence make up to Trump to justify not opening up files on a 60 year assassination?I wouldn't tend to believe any BS excuse Trump could make, as history has shown him a compulsive liar. But what was said? I don't know how many hundreds of times I've witnessed the trembling at hearing that Schumer statement here, Schumer is an institutionalist and will play up the U.S. as the biggest, baddest, and meanest intelligence organization in the world and it works!, as witnessed by the awe it inspires by it's the very mention here, particularly among those foreign to the U.S. But to those in Washington, that was not a "limited hangout". There's nothing ominous about that statement other than a general advisement to be careful who you screw with that most people understand.

Hey I was asking Sandy in his "Moderator Announcement " thread. What do you guys think of saving time and clicks and going directly to the water cooler from the JFKA forum, and being able to see from the JFKA forum, the latest poster on the water cooler like all other threads here? You might check out Sandy and I's dialog on that on the JFKA side.