Steven Gaal

Per your own posting ,you seem to travel to many TAVERNS (part of your self proclaimed, " I have a life"), I posit that there are two LAVERICKS. Pre pints and post pints, (there might be a third ... "oh last night tooooooo many pints") JUST ONE OF SAID SIGHTINGS ABOVE CORRECT AND DOUBLE OSWALDS IDEA IS CORRECT. IF H & L true, then open up the champagne !!!!!! THANKS gaal So in Gaal's world to "have a life" simply means drinking beer in a tavern. It's all a lot sadder than I thought. Wouldn't you just love to have one. eh? A life that is, not a beer. After all, beer is the Devil's brew. Get caught drinking that and you may incite His wrath and cause another global flooding. No worries, Gaal can be the new Noah, guiding the animals onto his ark two by two...two frogs, two giraffes, two beetles, two Oswalds... Tea total. Sorry. Try another smear. Would Jesus approve of your smear tactics? PLEASE NOTE YOU POSTED ON THIS FORUM ABOUT GOING OUT TO PUBs / TAVERNS or some such and YOU connected it to the phrase , "I have a life". You seem to be a musician , link below to help you in your ,"gigs". Jesus would never approve of drinking to excess !!! .,gaal == http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571684 (read full page // estimate 22 beers a band member and thus Tavern owner 'owed' money) ================================================================== NEVER ADDRESSED POST CHILDREN AS SPIES. I talked to NameBase founder Daniel Brandt who the Finders tried to recruit. He did a many year investigation of the Finders group. CIA to use children as spies ,confirmatory Harvey and Lee. ,gaal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NameBase = Posted 25 August 2015 - 04:41 PM link to info below >> http://www.covertbookreport.com/spy-kids-the-russians-the-finders-and-the-family/ "It seems quite possible that nearly every country in the world may have some similar operation going on – with the intent of penetrating various government agencies. But things get weirder and weirder. Here’s a piece I wrote on “The Finders” in 2010: Did The Finders Create a “Bourne Identity”? Suppose you have a thirty-year cult, run by a southern eccentric with ties to the Central Intelligence Agency. Suppose that cult raised children in austere surroundings combined with advanced education, perhaps to be used by said intelligence agency? Suppose that cult was investigated for child abuse/neglect but the investigation was shut down for “National Security” reasons? Sound like something out of a movie? Young “Jason Bournes” being created, nurtured and trained for future use? Well, something like that seems to have happened in “The Finders” cult. The unraveling of “The Finders” case brought to the forefront many long-rumored stories about possible child trafficking as well as those about children being trained for use as spies and assassins. In February 1987, a tip to the police led to the arrest of two “well dressed men” in a park in Tallahassee Florida. The men appeared to be “supervising” a group of six disheveled and hungry children. The men, who were based out of Washington D.C., were charged with child abuse. The D.C. police raided a house and warehouse, where they found many items that implicated “The Finders” cult in international intrigue and what appears to be ritual sacrifice of animals. The children were temporarily moved to an undisclosed location under armed guard due to threats to authorities. This all sounds like typical internet rumor-mongering, except the story was carried by The New York Times and U.S. News And World Report. The smoking gun was a report by U.S. Customs agent Ramon Martinez. Customs was called in to investigate a possible link to child pornography or child trafficking, and the Martinez document is shocking. There were indeed photos of many children, some naked. This in itself is not surprising due to the commune-type upbringing of The Finders. There were also photos of members in white robes, with the children, in what appears to be ritual sacrifice of goats. The Finders claim it was merely typical harvesting of animals on a farm, but the children actively participated in the disembowelment. At the time of the arrest, despite the “well dressed” appearance of the adult men, the children seemed to have no knowledge of such things as electricity and hot running water. In a strange twist, they seemed highly educated. Details of what was found in the warehouse and the customs report can be read in this report by Dave McGowan. Other items seized from the finders included Telex messages about obtaining children from Hong Kong, international money transfers, and this, from the Martinez report: “Further inspection of the premises disclosed numerous files relating to activities of the organization in different parts of the world. Locations I observed are as follows: London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and ‘Europe.’ There was also a file identified as ‘Palestinian.’ Other files were identified by member name or ‘project’ name. The projects appearing to be operated for commercial purposes under front names for the Finders. There was one file entitled ‘Pentagon Break-In,’ and others referring to members operating in foreign countries”. Everything in this case points to a possible prosecution for child abuse, but the investigation was shut down for National Security reasons. Marion Pettie was the leader of “The Finders” cult. Described as a tall, well-built southern gentleman, Pettie maintained a large property in Culpepper Virginia and the locations that were raided in Washington D.C. He has admitted that his wife had worked for the CIA and that his son flew for the CIA airline “Air America”, long known for it’s drug-trafficking exploits in Southeast Asia. In an excellent interview in the Washington “City Paper”, Pettie described his role as “Game Caller”. He instructed his followers to live by the day, hour, minute. He would send them on “projects”, often to foreign countries. All the Finders men dressed like FBI agents, in conservative dark suits. Not exactly your typical hippie-cult attire. At the dawn of the computer era, Pettie recruited a talented computer engineer who trained members of The Finders in computer technology. They went on to run a project for – you guessed it, The CIA. Pettie openly admits that he ran a safe house for members of intelligence agencies, from The Office of Navel Intelligence, to the OSS, to any spook that needed a place to hang out. He claims he would “study them”. The children that were found in the park with the “well-dressed men” were returned to their mothers and the cult. The investigation was dropped. The most recent information I could research on The Finders was a blog post by a guy named Michael Phillips. Phillips claims to have met The Finders in San Francisco in the 1970’s. Phillips respects the group, and thinks they had innovative ideas. Several Finders-type comments followed his blog post, one saying that Pettie and other founding members were now dead, and thanked him for the kind words. Phillips had just proof-read a 550-page manuscript of a book on the finders by member Robert “Tobe” Terrell. Another questionable report on a New Zealand Indymedia blog said that The Finders had relocated to Taiwan. I don’t know about that. ——– We will never know the true story of “The Finders”, what they were training the children for, or the source of their wealth. The Washington “City Paper” article says that some former members were suing Pettie and the remaining estate of the cult. The articles I researched are split into at least three categories. The right-wing writers focus on Satanic ritual abuse. The left side suspects the children may have been programed to be spies or assassins. People like the blogger Phillips suggest they were just elaborate role-playing adventurers. It is well known that intelligence agencies run programs resembling The Finders, such as the Kool-Aid massacres in Jonestown. It’s easy to pull a Sirhan-Sirhan or Lee Harvey Oswald out of these groups when they need one. But let’s close with this chilling conclusion to the report of U.S. Customs officer Martinez: “On April 2, 1987, I arrived at MPD at approximately 9:00 a.m. Detective Bradley was not available. I spoke to a third party who was willing to discuss the case with me on a strictly ‘off the record’ basis. “I was advised that all the passport data had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation. The State Department in turn, advised the MPD that all travel and use of the passports by the holders of the passports was within the law and no action would be taken. This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam from the late 1950s to mid 1970s. “The individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the investigation into the activity of the Finders had become a CIA internal matter. The MPD report has been classified SECRET and was not available for review. I was advised that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior and that the FBI Foreign Counter Intelligence Division had directed MPD not to advise the FBI Washington Field Office of anything that had transpired. “No further information will be available. No further action will be taken.” " ———————————————– UPDATE: The spy aged EIGHT: How American forces recruited a young boy to plant a chip on his stepfather – an Al Qaeda target in Yemen – so they could kill him in a drone strikeNew allegations claim that an 8-year-old Yemeni boy who was abandoned by his biological family was then roped back into their clutches The boy’s biological father works for the Yemeni Republican Guard, which helps U.S. forces, and they asked have an al Qaeda operative located That operative had been added to the U.S. ‘kill list’ The Republican Guard knew that one of their officer’s children had been taken in by that target, Adnan al-Qadhi, so they called the biological father and asked him to have his son place the chip on the surrogate father The boy complied and days later, Qadhi was killed in a drone strike By Daily Mail Reporter PUBLISHED: 18:21 EST, 15 August 2013 | UPDATED: 09:10 EST, 16 August 2013

Monsanto wants to replace the bees they are killing with genetically engineered flying ants Monday, August 31, 2015 by: Joel Edwards http://www.naturalnews.com/050993_flying_ants_genetically_engineered_Monsanto.html Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050993_flying_ants_genetically_engineered_Monsanto.html#ixzz3kQSasG5x ===================================================================================================================== (NaturalNews) Ecologists refer to bees and a few other select organisms as keystone species. This term is analogous to the keystone of an arch. Remove the wedge-shaped stone at the top, and the entire structure collapses. Bees are a keystone species because they are the world's primary pollinators and are therefore crucial to the environment. While Monsanto claims bees only pollinate about a third of the world's crops, others estimate their contribution to be closer to 90%. But the startling decline of the bee population isn't just threatening our crops, it is also threatening varied and diverse wild plants across the globe that provide food for countless animal species. If we lose the bees, the loss to our ecosystems will be catastrophic. Disappearing BeesColony collapse disorder is a term for deserted hives. Adult bees vacate the hive, leaving behind the queen and immature bees. The adult bees simply vanish. The Department of Agriculture cites several possible causes for colony collapse that include parasites, viruses, predators, nutritional deficits, and pesticide poisoning. They hypothesize a probable combination of factors while reminding us that bee disappearances have been recorded as far back as the 1880s. While we must recognize multiple factors are in play, there is no denying the fact that bees are very sensitive to pesticides, making them more susceptible to disease and interfering with their navigation. Even when exposed to sub-lethal doses of pesticides, many bees simply get lost. Unable to find their way back to the colony, they die, lost and alone. It's not just pesticides sprayed on crops that are killing the bees, the pesticides built into genetically modified crops are killing kill them as well. Earthjustice reports a dramatic example with bumblebees that occurred in June of 2013. On a fine June morning last year at a Target store outside Portland, Oregon, customers arrive to a startling sight: the parking lot was covered with a seething mat of bumblebees, some staggering around, most already dead, more raining down from above. The die-off lasted several days. It didn't take long to figure out that the day before a pest-control company had sprayed a powerful insecticide on surrounding Linden trees to protect them from aphids; but nobody warned the bees to stay away. In the end, an estimated 50,000 bumblebees perished. The tragedy at Target wiped out as many as 300 bumblebee colonies of bees no longer available to pollinate nearby trees and flowers. Monsanto Finally Admits Culpability For years Monsanto has masqueraded as an eco-friendly biotech company that is concerned about our dying bees. Part of our commitment to preserving the environment includes protecting the health of honey bees. That's why we work with many groups to develop sustainable solutions for the complex issues facing honey bee health. –Monsanto's Website The EPA gave Monsanto, a Fortune 500 company, a $3 million dollar grant, taxpayers' money, to develop a solution for colony collapse disorder. A top scientist at Monsanto, John Leere, let the cat out of the bag when he admitted GE farming and bees can't coexist. So guess which one they consider expendable? The following quotes are from the World New Daily Report. Latest studies have found a link between neonicotinoid pesticides that are vastly used in GE corn crops. As GE farming has become an essential part of agriculture in today's modern world, we had to develop ways to promote both the continuity of GE farming and the survival of the honey bees, a fascinating challenge? Since GE farming and neonicotinoid pesticides are here to stay, we first tried to modify the bees as to increase their immune system to these insecticides, with little or no success. Instead of saving bees, Monsanto intends to replace them and to profit from their demise. Yet, we did not despair and eventually started testing on winged virgin queens and males of the ant species. Although ants usually lose their wings after the queen has been inseminated and starts to give birth to the new colony, genetic manipulation has produced a flying ant species that is strikingly similar to the common honey bee, and 50 times stronger to certain types of pesticides. Through genetic manipulations, we could eventually create a hybrid species that would have both the common honey bee's pollinating characteristics, as well as possess the pesticide immunization properties of certain ant species, a perfect match that would take thousands of years to develop on its own in nature. Conclusion So, once again, we are seeing proof of Monsanto's endgame, complete corporate control of our food supply. They admit their GMO foods and pesticides are killing our bees, but instead of putting the welfare of the entire world's food supply ahead of their corporate greed, they will create a new abomination while their poisonous plants and chemicals continue to wreak havoc on current and future biodiversity. Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050993_flying_ants_genetically_engineered_Monsanto.html#ixzz3kQSsfXeT

Military Training for Young Children at Ukraine’s “Neo-Nazi Summer Camp”. Recruitment of Ukraine’s “Child Soldiers” Financed by US “Nonlethal” Military Aid? By Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, August 30, 2015 ======================================= http://www.globalresearch.ca/military-training-for-young-children-at-ukraines-neo-nazi-summer-camp-recruitment-of-ukraines-child-soldiers-financed-by-us-nonlethal-military-aid/5472801

TV Series about “Russian Occupation of Norway” Sparks Furor By Anastasia Lyalikova Global Research, August 31, 2015 Russia Beyond the Headlines 28 August 2015 ===================================================== A new TV series in which Russia occupies Norway and seizes its oil fields has been criticized by the Russian Foreign Ministry, with the Russian embassy in Oslo labelling it as reminiscent of the “worst traditions of the Cold War.” A new Norwegian TV series in which Russia occupies the Nordic country and takes control of its oil fields has been described by Russia’s Foreign Ministry as being “in the worst traditions of the Cold War” and representing a “non-existent threat from the east.” The series is to be launched by the largest Norwegian independent television channel TV2, the local media outlet LO News reports. Events in the TV show evolve around the invasion of Norway by the Russian army – backed by the European Union – after environmental radicals come to power in the Scandinavian country and stop its oil industry. According to the script, Russia occupies the country and subsequently seizes its oil fields. The announcement of the TV series has already caused a negative reaction at the Russian Foreign Ministry, the BBC reports. The Russian embassy in Norway has expressed regret at the upcoming premiere. “Although the authors painstakingly emphasize the fictional nature of the plot, allegedly having nothing to do with reality, the film is about very real countries, and Russia, unfortunately, is given the role of the aggressor,” the embassy said in statement. Historian Bjorn Ditlef Nystad, Associate Professor of the University of Oslo, said in an interview with the television channel that the TV show is offensive to residents of Norway, liberated by the Soviet Union from German occupation in 1944. “Such shows have never been made anywhere. Perhaps only in the United States during the Cold War – and still it is doubtful. I am sure that Norwegians will be shocked at the release of this film to the screen, and it clearly will not improve relations with Russia,” said Nystad. --------------------------------------------------------- posted in fair use First published in Russian by RBC Daily.

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Per your own posting ,you seem to travel to many TAVERNS (part of your self proclaimed, " I have a life"), I posit that there are two LAVERICKS. Pre pints and post pints, (there might be a third ... "oh last night tooooooo many pints") JUST ONE OF SAID SIGHTINGS ABOVE CORRECT AND DOUBLE OSWALDS IDEA IS CORRECT. IF H & L true, then open up the champagne !!!!!! THANKS gaal

In 1967, Garrison spoke with police officer Charles Noto. Noto remembered the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald as having occurred possibly in 1963, but probably in October or November of 1962. See page 18: http://digitalcollec...id/41827/rec/3 Oswald was in inveterate prevaricator to authorities, IMHO, so it's not surprising at all that he told the arresting officers in New Orleans in late 1962 that he was living in Dallas. He didn't exactly have a driver's license to show them, did he? Pray tell, how could Oswald's counter espionage activities in Japan in 1957 and in New Orleans in 1962 possibly "bolster" the Harvey and Lee theory? --Tommy PS It makes a lot more sense to have the one and only, New Orleans-dwelling, Lee Harvey Oswald running around New Orleans doing "CE" work in late 1962 than to have your "Dallas-dwelling Lee" do it while your "Misnk-dwelling Harvey" was dwelling in ... Minsk. For rather obvious reasons. Hint: Like not wanting to bump into any of his old friends or acquaintances. (Tommy ,gaal) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTO WAS WRONG ABOUT DATE. OFFICER LOUSTEAU GAVE INFORMATION/DATA THAT CORRECTS OFFICER NOTO (see Baylor Documents refs below) LHO WAS SEEN BY LOUSTEAU 1961,while another OSWALD in RUSSIA..gaal ============================================================================================================================== GO TO THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY ARMSTRONG FILES. link >>> http://digitalcollec...id/41827/rec/3 You will see Oct 15,1959-June 11,1962 then CLICK ON THE DOWNLOAD BUTTON BOX on the right. YOU WILL DOWN LOAD A PDF FILE (41810 pdf). After download you will see COVER SHEET BOX 16 Notebook 2 TAB 79 Charles Noto. GO TO Pages 9,11,12,14 and 16 DAVID LOUSTEAU - INTERVIEW WITH As you remember from our interview with CHUCK, NOTO, Mr. NOTO stated that around October of November of 1962 he arrested 2 men on the Lakefront, one of whom was supposed to be LEE HARVEY OSWALD. He gauged his time in regard to the fact that MARCEL CHAMPON was working late during the time because they were trying to "knock off" a Mr. JOSEPH CRONIN. Mr. LOUSTEAU also said that he can recall the particular incident that NOTO was talking about, but he cannot place any faces or any names. He did take a look at the photograph and said that this man is always around the Lakefront area fishing; that he has talked to him on several occasion; ...but that he knovs this incident could not have been in Octobber or November of 1962 because JOE CRONIN was .not working for the Levee Board at that time. As the date of Mr. CRONIN's departure from the Levee Board seemed to be pertinent to the situation, especially to Mr. CRONIN"s presence in the Levee Eoard Police Station late at nioht, I contacted Miss Teal at the main office of the Orleans Levee'Board and ascertained that_Mr. JOSEPH CRONIN was dismissed from the Orleans Levee Board in Mav of 1962. You will recall "that OSWALD did not get into the United States until June 10, 1962 when he arrived in Dallas from Russia. +++++++++++++++++ PHOTO OSWALD >>> THIS IS PART OF GARRISON INVESTIGATION OF JFK ASSASSINATION AND LAST SENTENCE GIVES THE CONTEXT THATS ITS AN OSWALD PROBLEM WHICH GARRISON ADDRESSED AS "impersonators" ,gaal (copy problems via paste and Baylor photo file) LEE in New Orleans Safe House working electronics game (fishing a lot ) LEE in Dallas at Diceman Apt with Ruby. //GAAL see link http://educationforu...=21547&p=297203 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ " wanting to bump into any of his old friends" GRAVES QUOTE. New Orleans is a big area. Im sure that the haunts of the Oswald family were known and the data suggests he hung out so to speak in a small area "fishing". I guess the fishing area was a safe one for less , "bumping". /// gaal == The anti H & L crowd has asked ad nauseam about the why of the HARVEY/LEE double program. I am showing a pattern of behavior (behaviour British) of the OSWALDS in Japan and New Orleans that show CE activity. Pattern bolstering credibility is an obvious maxim that even a man contemplating the green cheese in his naval should see. THANKS gaal

CONFLICTS AS TO THE THE LOCATION/ IDENTITY OF LHO ARE REAL EVENTS NO MATTER WHAT THE ANTI H & L GROUP ASSERTS. Below a collection of JUST (JUST !!!!! ) 1963 October. BOX with notebook numbers and link to Baylor University Armstrong search page provided. gaal +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/landingpage/collection/po-arm About this collection For ten years, John Armstrong conducted research for his book Harvey & Lee [Arlington, Tex. : Quasar, c2003]. His travels took him all over the country and to several foreign countries gathering materials and conducting interviews. His research resulted in 100,000+pages of documents, dozens of reels of microfilm, many books and hundreds of photographs. He arranged his materials into dozens of oversize notebooks which were divided into topics and subtopics. The W. R. Poage Legislative Library and Riley Digitization Center at Baylor University began digitizing these notebooks in November, 2009 and completed work in the Spring of 2011. Browse the digitized contents of each notebook, arranged by subject Browse the digitized contents of each subject tab ==================================================================== Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 October 04 04 01 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 KOPY Radio in Alice, TX 04 04 02 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 South Texas Sightings 04 04 03 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 John Kaylock - 1963-10-02 04 04 04 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Evelyn Sheppard 04 04 05 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Hotel La Salle, New Orleans, 1963-10-03 04 04 06 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 J.G. Hardin 1963-10-03 04 04 07 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Harry Sanderson, 1963-10-03 04 04 08 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 YMCA 1963-10-03 04 04 09 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 JOBCO employ - 1963-10-04 04 04 10 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Carroll Jarnagin, 1963-10-04 04 04 11 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Heber Springs, AR - 1963-10-05 04 04 12 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 LHO - Parry Russo - 1963-10-07 04 04 13 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Mrs. Lovell Penn - 1963-10-06 see links last page more info http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313608 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313639 04 04 14 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Cristobal Landivar 04 04 15 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Michigan State University 04 04 16 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Wilbyrn Litchfield 04 04 17 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Martinsburg, PA - Oct. 1963 04 04 18 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Student Directorate of Cuba Meeting 04 04 19 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Grays Cleaners 04 04 20 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Houston - Oct. 15, 16, 17 04 04 21 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Milton Kaack 04 04 22 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Grand Prairie - 1963-10-23 04 04 23 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Laurel Kittral 04 04 24 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Deluxe Diner 04 04 25 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Spring Branch, TX 1963-10-24 04 04 26 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Baton Rouge, LA - 1963-10-25 04 04 27 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 James Gallaher - Oct. 04 04 28 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Court of Two Sisters 04 04 29 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Statler-Hilton 04 04 30 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Unverified Sightings 04 04 31 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 South Cliff Motel - Dallas 04 04 32 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Dorothy Peeples - 1963-10-25 04 04 33 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Waco, TX 04 04 34 Sightings of LHO, Oct. 1963 Job at Little Red Barn 04 04 35 JUST OCTOBER CONFLICTS !!!!!!!,gaal ==================>>>> REAL EVENTS <<<<===================

Greg, We should encourage Gaal to make as many long, nutty "data dumps" on Harvey and Lee-related threads as possible, as it effectively conveys to "newbies" the caliber of intellect attracted to the H & L Cult. "Smooth movements, Steven! Way to ..... GO! Let 'er rip!" --Tommy You who have not read the book and claim its (per you) " moon green cheese " . Sir You seem to me to be full of cheese............gaal

================================================================== ABOVE MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS (Doctor ?? ) PARKER on gaal WHY ?? Oh Why ?? did (Doctor) Parker make this diagnosis ?? ANSWER I MADE THIS POST >>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313639 PLEASE DEAR READER YOU DECIDE IF REAL RESEARCH IS BEING MADE (see above link and see below) below bumped from another thread (really belongs on this thread). ,gaal ========================================================= LEE ?? Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:23 PM , (Gaal) Gee you probably didn't understand. gaal Bill Simpich ==================== Banister was good at this kind of thing -- he had people such as his associate Don Campbell and staffer Tommy Baumler working to infiltrate left-wing college groups. [31] Someone had to spy on the New Orleans Council for Peaceful Alternatives, who invited troublemakers like Father Phil Berrigan to speak on the immorality of nuclear weapons. In May, Oswald started off by leaving FPCC fliers at the Tulane Library, a good way to flush out pro-Castro types that might try to infiltrate anti-communist groups. [32] In June, he was leafleting sailors at the USS Wasp. Using the waterfront was second nature for an ex-Marine like Oswald. No surprise that FPCC agitation at the harbor resulted in the circulation of the Oswald legend throughout military intelligence. The DRE had been thoroughly penetrated by Carlos Bringuier's relative Jorge, and was considered totally insecure by the CIA The DRE took the CIA's money but were difficult to work with. This group was young, motivated, and very dangerous. In August 1962, they shelled government buildings in Havana and then bragged about it, while Castro was infuriated at this latest act of terrorism and attempted assassination. They attracted the attention of the Cuban's government's DGI. The role of the DGI in Cuba was to penetrate counter-revolutionary organizations. Counterintelligence analyst Ray Rocca made it very clear years later that he agreed that the DRE was heavily infiltrated by Cuban government DGI agents by 1962. Several CIA officers had also concluded that the DRE was totally insecure. Officer Calvin Thomas was concerned that the DRE might have even played a role in killing Kennedy. Jorge Bringuier was the brother-in-law of New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier. (While DRE official Juan Salvat describes him as nephew, Carlos says brother-in-law.) Jorge Bringuier disgraced the family by becoming a Castro agent and betraying the Cuban wing of the DRE. After he became national coordinator in Cuba in 1962, just about all of the Cuban DRE members were arrested. There's a contemporaneous memo about this betrayal in early 1963. Jorge was pitched to defect on 12/6/63, and he sent a telegram to his mother on 12/13 saying that he was "out" and with the Americans. Jorge was a CIA agent by 1968. In late July, ten Cuban exiles traveled from Miami to New Orleans and joined an anti-Castro training camp north of New Orleans. This training camp was on the land of Michael McLaney, a friend of "gamblers in Cuba", and the new arrivals at the camp had obtained some dynamite and were planning to bomb Cuban oil refineries. The leader of the dynamite procurement was Victor Espinosa Hernandez. Espinosa's group asked New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier to assist them. Bringuier had worked for some time in the same building as Banister, serving as the press and propaganda secretary of the aforementioned CRC. On July 31, the FBI swooped into a home in the New Orleans area and seized a ton of dynamite, bomb casings, napalm material and other devices. Eleven people were arrested. Bringuier escaped arrest. Why? It looks like US intelligence forces wanted a more subtle approach to test Bringuier's loyalties. Oswald Came to Center Stage After the Arms Seizure As An Asset This arms seizure by the FBI triggered Oswald to go public, who had been working with Banister doing some quiet leafleting on behalf of the FPCC. At a minimum, Oswald was being used as an asset, defined by the House Select Committe on Assassinations as "anyone used in an operation or project, whether or not that (person) is aware that he is being used". The CIA referred to a person who did not know that he had done anything to help the CIA as an "unwilling co-optee". Whether he knew it or not, Oswald was being used as a counter-intelligence asset. 1. The main goal was to make the FPCC look bad. 2. Incidentally, an anti-FPCC operation would divert public attention from the recent terrorist plans of the anti-Castro underground. This vigilante plan to napalm Cuba did not look good. 3. Along the way, it made sense to try to determine if Carlos Bringuier might be pro-Castro, or if Jorge Bringuier could be brought back into the anti-Castro fold. Carlos may have been used by those using Oswald. === OH yeah WINK ,gaal ================ The CIA examined Celso Hernandez as a Castro penetration agent There is an intriguing report of FPCC member Oswald being arrested with Celso Hernandez in New Orleans in late 1962 (see pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) The ID of Hernandez was made years later and is admittedly shaky. The ID of Oswald is more substantive, as he id'd himself to the police as an FPCC member - but he was living in the Dallas area. The story is that the two men were picked up at the lakefront in Celso's work truck, owned by an electronics firm that was Celso's employer. The most important thing is that right about this time, Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist. This kicked off an investigation that revealed in the autumn of 1963 that there was a left-wing Celso and a right-wing Celso, and a brother and sister who couldn't agree on who was who. [33] Oswald and Celso Hernandez were arrested together again in August 1963. What we do know is that throughout this era, Hernandez was under close scrutiny as a possible pro-Castro infiltrator. Below, we see Oswald's interactions with Carlos and Celso. == [33] Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist: For the 1962 Oswald-Hernandez arrest, see memo from investigator John Volz to DA Jim Garrison, 3/1/67, pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) RIF# 180-10085-10407. http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3 ======= end older post,gaal ========================================= THE IDEA THAT LHO WAS PART OF CE IS BOLSTERED BY THE STORY OF RCN. (AND YES THIS thus bolsterers Harvey & Lee ,gaal) ====================== coun·ter·es·pi·o·nage (AKA CE) ˌkoun(t)ərˈespēəˌnäZH,ˌkoun(t)ərˈespēəˌnäj/ noun noun: counter-espionage activities designed to prevent or thwart spying by an enemy. ============================================================= LHO MONITORS COMMUNIST HERNANDEZ ( A CE TYPE OF OPERATION).,gaal see https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=144378#relPageId=2 (link Hernandez above) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DAVE REITZES http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/nagell3.htm Richard Case Nagell "He specified November 1957 as the time that he and Oswald supposedly became involved in a CIA operation targeting Soviet colonel Nikolai Eroshkin."

LEE ?? Posted 16 August 2015 - 02:23 PM , (Gaal) Gee you probably didn't understand. gaal Bill Simpich ==================== Banister was good at this kind of thing -- he had people such as his associate Don Campbell and staffer Tommy Baumler working to infiltrate left-wing college groups. [31] Someone had to spy on the New Orleans Council for Peaceful Alternatives, who invited troublemakers like Father Phil Berrigan to speak on the immorality of nuclear weapons. In May, Oswald started off by leaving FPCC fliers at the Tulane Library, a good way to flush out pro-Castro types that might try to infiltrate anti-communist groups. [32] In June, he was leafleting sailors at the USS Wasp. Using the waterfront was second nature for an ex-Marine like Oswald. No surprise that FPCC agitation at the harbor resulted in the circulation of the Oswald legend throughout military intelligence. The DRE had been thoroughly penetrated by Carlos Bringuier's relative Jorge, and was considered totally insecure by the CIA The DRE took the CIA's money but were difficult to work with. This group was young, motivated, and very dangerous. In August 1962, they shelled government buildings in Havana and then bragged about it, while Castro was infuriated at this latest act of terrorism and attempted assassination. They attracted the attention of the Cuban's government's DGI. The role of the DGI in Cuba was to penetrate counter-revolutionary organizations. Counterintelligence analyst Ray Rocca made it very clear years later that he agreed that the DRE was heavily infiltrated by Cuban government DGI agents by 1962. Several CIA officers had also concluded that the DRE was totally insecure. Officer Calvin Thomas was concerned that the DRE might have even played a role in killing Kennedy. Jorge Bringuier was the brother-in-law of New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier. (While DRE official Juan Salvat describes him as nephew, Carlos says brother-in-law.) Jorge Bringuier disgraced the family by becoming a Castro agent and betraying the Cuban wing of the DRE. After he became national coordinator in Cuba in 1962, just about all of the Cuban DRE members were arrested. There's a contemporaneous memo about this betrayal in early 1963. Jorge was pitched to defect on 12/6/63, and he sent a telegram to his mother on 12/13 saying that he was "out" and with the Americans. Jorge was a CIA agent by 1968. In late July, ten Cuban exiles traveled from Miami to New Orleans and joined an anti-Castro training camp north of New Orleans. This training camp was on the land of Michael McLaney, a friend of "gamblers in Cuba", and the new arrivals at the camp had obtained some dynamite and were planning to bomb Cuban oil refineries. The leader of the dynamite procurement was Victor Espinosa Hernandez. Espinosa's group asked New Orleans DRE leader Carlos Bringuier to assist them. Bringuier had worked for some time in the same building as Banister, serving as the press and propaganda secretary of the aforementioned CRC. On July 31, the FBI swooped into a home in the New Orleans area and seized a ton of dynamite, bomb casings, napalm material and other devices. Eleven people were arrested. Bringuier escaped arrest. Why? It looks like US intelligence forces wanted a more subtle approach to test Bringuier's loyalties. Oswald Came to Center Stage After the Arms Seizure As An Asset This arms seizure by the FBI triggered Oswald to go public, who had been working with Banister doing some quiet leafleting on behalf of the FPCC. At a minimum, Oswald was being used as an asset, defined by the House Select Committe on Assassinations as "anyone used in an operation or project, whether or not that (person) is aware that he is being used". The CIA referred to a person who did not know that he had done anything to help the CIA as an "unwilling co-optee". Whether he knew it or not, Oswald was being used as a counter-intelligence asset. 1. The main goal was to make the FPCC look bad. 2. Incidentally, an anti-FPCC operation would divert public attention from the recent terrorist plans of the anti-Castro underground. This vigilante plan to napalm Cuba did not look good. 3. Along the way, it made sense to try to determine if Carlos Bringuier might be pro-Castro, or if Jorge Bringuier could be brought back into the anti-Castro fold. Carlos may have been used by those using Oswald. === OH yeah WINK ,gaal ================ The CIA examined Celso Hernandez as a Castro penetration agent There is an intriguing report of FPCC member Oswald being arrested with Celso Hernandez in New Orleans in late 1962 (see pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) The ID of Hernandez was made years later and is admittedly shaky. The ID of Oswald is more substantive, as he id'd himself to the police as an FPCC member - but he was living in the Dallas area. The story is that the two men were picked up at the lakefront in Celso's work truck, owned by an electronics firm that was Celso's employer. The most important thing is that right about this time, Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist. This kicked off an investigation that revealed in the autumn of 1963 that there was a left-wing Celso and a right-wing Celso, and a brother and sister who couldn't agree on who was who. [33] Oswald and Celso Hernandez were arrested together again in August 1963. What we do know is that throughout this era, Hernandez was under close scrutiny as a possible pro-Castro infiltrator. Below, we see Oswald's interactions with Carlos and Celso. == [33] Bill Harvey - who worked both the wiretapping side and the Cuban beat for the CIA during 1962 - was tipped off on 10/1/62 that Celso Hernandez might be a communist: For the 1962 Oswald-Hernandez arrest, see memo from investigator John Volz to DA Jim Garrison, 3/1/67, pp. 6-7, (follow-up at pp. 16-18) RIF# 180-10085-10407. http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/compoundobject/collection/po-arm/id/41827/rec/3 ======= end older post,gaal ========================================= THE IDEA THAT LHO WAS PART OF CE IS BOLSTERED BY THE STORY OF RCN. (AND YES THIS thus bolsterers Harvey & Lee ,gaal) ====================== coun·ter·es·pi·o·nage (AKA CE) ˌkoun(t)ərˈespēəˌnäZH,ˌkoun(t)ərˈespēəˌnäj/ noun noun: counter-espionage activities designed to prevent or thwart spying by an enemy. ============================================================= LHO MONITORS COMMUNIST HERNANDEZ ( A CE TYPE OF OPERATION).,gaal see https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=144378#relPageId=2 (link Hernandez above) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DAVE REITZES http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/nagell3.htm Richard Case Nagell "He specified November 1957 as the time that he and Oswald supposedly became involved in a CIA operation targeting Soviet colonel Nikolai Eroshkin."

Show is the proof. Where is the letter? Here is the FBI report. I don't see anywhere where it says she identified anyone. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=442&tab=page She did hand in a 6.5 cartridge she found. It couldn't be matched to the M-C in the archives. I would also add that Oswald was not "nasty" or given to the types of tirades she spoke of. But one person who looked a little like Oswald, sold 6.5 ammo and had Cuban customers was John Thomas Masen... I believe he fits the bill... maybe giving a demo to a customer? --------------- Again - I'm not going through the whole list. I think this is enough to demonstrate the type of unsubstantiated hogwash you cut and paste on here. // (PARKER,gaal) Parker states I post hogwash.// GAAL POINT BY POINT 1) could also add that Oswald was not "nasty" or given to the types of tirades she spoke of. // Parker 2)Here is the FBI report. I don't see anywhere where it says she identified anyone. // PARKER 3)But one person who looked a little like Oswald, sold 6.5 ammo and had Cuban customers was John Thomas Masen... I believe he fits the bill... maybe giving a demo to a customer? // PARKER +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1)No I think that people with aspergers (AS Mr. Parker asserts) can have such tirades. (SEE BELOW) // GAAL 2)More credibility to seeing "A OSWALD" shooting a rifle (same type car seen re Oswald and rifle shooting) // GAAL 3)NO gunsmith in Cedar Hill. ( John Thomas Masen,gunsmith) // Mrs PENN AREA // GAAL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HOGWHAT ??? // GAAL Why Oswald was More Likely to Have Suffered Asperger's Than ... (GREG PARKER) reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t44-why-oswald-was-more-likely-to-... Cached Similar Mar 28, 2010 - 13 posts - ‎4 authors Research into the sexual understanding of people with Asperger's syndrome is ..... I tend to agree that LHO could suffer from Asperger syndrom ======================================================================================= Asperger's and Violence: Experts Weigh In - WebMD www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/.../aspergers-violence Cached Similar WebMD Loading... Dec 19, 2012 - What Is Asperger's Syndrome? ... which killed 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school last ... Asperger's and Violence. {C} {C} My Aspergers Child: Anger and Violence in Aspergers ... www.myaspergerschild.com/2010/.../anger-and-violence-in-aspergers.ht... Cached Similar Kids (and adults) with Aspergers and High-Functioning Autism are prone to ..... I have begged his school system to recognize his Asperger diagnosis as a ... {C} {C} Asperger's Disorder and Criminal Behavior: Forensic ... www.jaapl.org/content/34/3/374.full Similar by BG Haskins - ‎2006 - ‎Cited by 103 - ‎Related articles Only one-third of the Asperger's patients had had a previous diagnosis of ..... Violent behavior among children, adolescents, and even adults with AD is not ... {C} {C} Violent behavior in autism spectrum disorder: Is it a fact, or ... www.currentpsychiatry.com/.../violent.../11f5bce386af9de90e9d650ae9... Cached Similar Differentiating chronic schizophrenia and autism in adults is not always easy, .... Newman SS, Ghaziuddin M. Violent crime and Asperger syndrome: the role of ... {C} {C} Asperger Syndrome - Dr. Kathy Marshack, Ph.D. www.kmarshack.com/Asperger-Syndrome.html Cached Similar Asperger Syndrome (AS) is the term applied to the high functioning end of ... AS is much more common than previously realized and many adults are undiagnosed. .... Domestic violence is a serious problem in homes where one partner has ... ############################################################################ JUNE OSWALD vs (( not "nasty" or given to the types of tirades she spoke of // Parker )) http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=675&p=4192 "That didn't set well with me. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. I have to remind Rachel that this is the man who beat our mother, who didn't provide for his children. I tell her, "Rachel, for all we know, we could have been living in the streets." Because that's mostly what I think of when I think of Lee. As for what his exact role in the assassination was - well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. " ((PARKER or June Oswald who should we believe ?? gaal)) ===================================== Dave Reitzes http://www.jfk-online.com/oswaldrifle.html "Malcolm Price was also at the rifle range on November 17th. Mr. PRICE. . . . I do understand there was a hassle between him and Mr. [Garland] Slack over shooting the wrong target or something like that. I was over at the opposite end shooting at a target for the turkey shoot, and I didn't pay attention to that. That was their business. . . . he did have the same gun. And I asked him if it was still doing the job, if it was still set, and he said it was shooting just fine, and Mr. Slack was there at the time . . . they were sitting right next to one another -- Mr. Slack was in Booth 9 and Oswald was in Booth 8, and [Oswald] commented on his telescope. . . . he asked me to look through it, and he said, "It's one of the clearest telescopes that I have ever seen -- one of the brightest." He said, "It's a Japanese scope, and I gave $18 for it. . . . he remarked that it was a four-power telescope, and he said it was mounted on Redfield mounts . . . we compared it with two scopes that Mr. Slack had on his gun, and a fellow that was shooting on the right side in Booth 7 -- I don't know who that was [the Commission never identified this witness], but we compared it with three different American-made scopes and his [Oswald's] telescope was brighter and clearer by far. . . . He said he got it from a gunsmith in Cedar Hill for a debt, the gun, and that he bought the scope and the gunsmith mounted it for him. Mr. LIEBELER. . . . And that was in Cedar Hill? Mr. PRICE. It might be, but I don't know of any gunsmith in Cedar Hill. . . .(6) There was no gunsmith in Cedar Hill,()) although Cedar Hill is where Mrs. Lovell Penn said she saw Oswald firing on her property with two other men. Price described the rifle, a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 caliber, in detail, then was shown photographs of the alleged assassination rifle; he observed it was similar to the gun he saw, but not exactly the same. Sports Drome witness Malcolm Price saw Oswald with an old model Chevrolet; Mrs. Lovell Penn had seen Oswald and two other men with a 1957 black and white Chevrolet with Texas plates. Price recalled that the last time he saw Oswald at the rifle range, Garland Slack was present, as well as a doctor and his son, who we will meet shortly. Floyd Guy Davis, the owner of the rifle range, denied to the FBI and the Warren Commission that he'd ever seen Lee Harvey Oswald, acknowledging only the Price and Slack had mentioned seeing him on several occasions, and that he did remember an incident where someone was shooting at Slack's target on the day of the turkey shoot, which he confirms was November 17th. He came out to see what was going on, and spoke to those present. When shown photos of Oswald and Larry Crafard, Davis rejected the Crafard photo, then admitted that the picture of Oswald resembled the man at the rifle range. " =========================================================================================== Mr. Parker interjects a 'new idea' into LHO/JFK research, Asperger Disorder, yet fails to fully investigate said syndrome. I think this is enough to demonstrate the type of unsubstantiated hogwash you, Mr. Parker, cut and paste on here.// gaal

Show is the proof. Where is the letter? Here is the FBI report. I don't see anywhere where it says she identified anyone. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=442&tab=page She did hand in a 6.5 cartridge she found. It couldn't be matched to the M-C in the archives. I would also add that Oswald was not "nasty" or given to the types of tirades she spoke of. But one person who looked a little like Oswald, sold 6.5 ammo and had Cuban customers was John Thomas Masen... I believe he fits the bill... maybe giving a demo to a customer? --------------- Again - I'm not going through the whole list. I think this is enough to demonstrate the type of unsubstantiated hogwash you cut and paste on here. Parker states I post hogwash.// GAAL POINT BY POINT 1) could also add that Oswald was not "nasty" or given to the types of tirades she spoke of. // Parker 2)Here is the FBI report. I don't see anywhere where it says she identified anyone. // PARKER 3)But one person who looked a little like Oswald, sold 6.5 ammo and had Cuban customers was John Thomas Masen... I believe he fits the bill... maybe giving a demo to a customer? // PARKER +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1)No I think that people with aspergers (AS Mr. Parker asserts) can have such tirades. (SEE BELOW) // GAAL 2)More credibility to seeing "A OSWALD" shooting a rifle (same type car seen re Oswald and rifle shooting) // GAAL 3)NO gunsmith in Cedar Hill. ( John Thomas Masen,gunsmith) // Mrs PENN AREA // GAAL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ HOGWHAT ??? // GAAL Why Oswald was More Likely to Have Suffered Asperger's Than ... (GREG PARKER) reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t44-why-oswald-was-more-likely-to-... Cached Similar Mar 28, 2010 - 13 posts - ‎4 authors Research into the sexual understanding of people with Asperger's syndrome is ..... I tend to agree that LHO could suffer from Asperger syndrom ======================================================================================= Asperger's and Violence: Experts Weigh In - WebMD www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/.../aspergers-violence Cached Similar WebMD Loading... Dec 19, 2012 - What Is Asperger's Syndrome? ... which killed 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school last ... Asperger's and Violence. {C} {C} My Aspergers Child: Anger and Violence in Aspergers ... www.myaspergerschild.com/2010/.../anger-and-violence-in-aspergers.ht... Cached Similar Kids (and adults) with Aspergers and High-Functioning Autism are prone to ..... I have begged his school system to recognize his Asperger diagnosis as a ... {C} {C} Asperger's Disorder and Criminal Behavior: Forensic ... www.jaapl.org/content/34/3/374.full Similar by BG Haskins - ‎2006 - ‎Cited by 103 - ‎Related articles Only one-third of the Asperger's patients had had a previous diagnosis of ..... Violent behavior among children, adolescents, and even adults with AD is not ... {C} {C} Violent behavior in autism spectrum disorder: Is it a fact, or ... www.currentpsychiatry.com/.../violent.../11f5bce386af9de90e9d650ae9... Cached Similar Differentiating chronic schizophrenia and autism in adults is not always easy, .... Newman SS, Ghaziuddin M. Violent crime and Asperger syndrome: the role of ... {C} {C} Asperger Syndrome - Dr. Kathy Marshack, Ph.D. www.kmarshack.com/Asperger-Syndrome.html Cached Similar Asperger Syndrome (AS) is the term applied to the high functioning end of ... AS is much more common than previously realized and many adults are undiagnosed. .... Domestic violence is a serious problem in homes where one partner has ... ############################################################################ JUNE OSWALD vs (( not "nasty" or given to the types of tirades she spoke of // Parker )) http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=675&p=4192 "That didn't set well with me. If they could prove somehow that he was innocent, he'd still not be a hero, he'd be a martyr. I have to remind Rachel that this is the man who beat our mother, who didn't provide for his children. I tell her, "Rachel, for all we know, we could have been living in the streets." Because that's mostly what I think of when I think of Lee. As for what his exact role in the assassination was - well, he'll have to be judged for that before God. " ((PARKER or June who should we believe ?? gaal)) ===================================== Dave Reitzes http://www.jfk-online.com/oswaldrifle.html "Malcolm Price was also at the rifle range on November 17th. Mr. PRICE. . . . I do understand there was a hassle between him and Mr. [Garland] Slack over shooting the wrong target or something like that. I was over at the opposite end shooting at a target for the turkey shoot, and I didn't pay attention to that. That was their business. . . . he did have the same gun. And I asked him if it was still doing the job, if it was still set, and he said it was shooting just fine, and Mr. Slack was there at the time . . . they were sitting right next to one another -- Mr. Slack was in Booth 9 and Oswald was in Booth 8, and [Oswald] commented on his telescope. . . . he asked me to look through it, and he said, "It's one of the clearest telescopes that I have ever seen -- one of the brightest." He said, "It's a Japanese scope, and I gave $18 for it. . . . he remarked that it was a four-power telescope, and he said it was mounted on Redfield mounts . . . we compared it with two scopes that Mr. Slack had on his gun, and a fellow that was shooting on the right side in Booth 7 -- I don't know who that was [the Commission never identified this witness], but we compared it with three different American-made scopes and his [Oswald's] telescope was brighter and clearer by far. . . . He said he got it from a gunsmith in Cedar Hill for a debt, the gun, and that he bought the scope and the gunsmith mounted it for him. Mr. LIEBELER. . . . And that was in Cedar Hill? Mr. PRICE. It might be, but I don't know of any gunsmith in Cedar Hill. . . .(6) There was no gunsmith in Cedar Hill,()) although Cedar Hill is where Mrs. Lovell Penn said she saw Oswald firing on her property with two other men. Mr. PRICE. I said, "I didn't know there was a gunsmith in Cedar Hill." He said, "Yes, one over there, and he owed me some money, and he gave me his gun to settle the debt," and he said, "I bought the scope, and he mounted it and boresighted it."(8) Price described the rifle, a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 caliber, in detail, then was shown photographs of the alleged assassination rifle; he observed it was similar to the gun he saw, but not exactly the same. Sports Drome witness Malcolm Price saw Oswald with an old model Chevrolet; Mrs. Lovell Penn had seen Oswald and two other men with a 1957 black and white Chevrolet with Texas plates. Price recalled that the last time he saw Oswald at the rifle range, Garland Slack was present, as well as a doctor and his son, who we will meet shortly. Floyd Guy Davis, the owner of the rifle range, denied to the FBI and the Warren Commission that he'd ever seen Lee Harvey Oswald, acknowledging only the Price and Slack had mentioned seeing him on several occasions, and that he did remember an incident where someone was shooting at Slack's target on the day of the turkey shoot, which he confirms was November 17th. He came out to see what was going on, and spoke to those present. When shown photos of Oswald and Larry Crafard, Davis rejected the Crafard photo, then admitted that the picture of Oswald resembled the man at the rifle range. " =========================================================================================== Mr. Parker interjects a new idea into LHO/JFK research, Asperger Disorder, yet fails to fully investigate said syndrome. I think this is enough to demonstrate the type of unsubstantiated hogwash you cut and paste on here.// gaal

BUMPED CONFLICTS AS TO THE THE LOCATION/ IDENTITY OF LHO ARE REAL EVENTS NO MATTER WHAT THE ANTI H & L GROUP ASSERTS. gaal

The papers are to be released September 16 .....pile more dirt on JFK . The AFIO,???, Stalin was more honest gaal

The year 1961 was not only JFK's first year, it was also the year of General Walker in the media. The Overseas Weekly slamming of General Walker occurred on 17 April 1961 -- the same day as the Bay of Pigs invasion, and General Walker was dismissed from his command by the Joint Chiefs the very next day. US Media defense of General Walker therefore occurred at the same time as US Media criticisms of JFK for the Bay of Pigs. Regards, --Paul Trejo ========================================================================= same time as US Media criticisms of JFK for the Bay of Pigs. // Trejo /// Paley and Allen Dulles were very,very close friends who visited each other on the holidays,exchanging gifts. gaal --------------------------------------------------------- Criticize JFK ??? How did that happen ???? SEE LINK http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cia-and-the-media-50-facts-the-world-needs-to-know/5471956 "CBS’s Paley worked reciprocally with the CIA, allowing the Agency to utilize network resources and personnel. “It was a form of assistance that a number of wealthy persons are now generally known to have rendered the CIA through their private interests,” veteran broadcast journalist Daniel Schorr wrote in 1977. “It suggested to me, however, that a relationship of confidence and trust had existed between him and the agency.” Schorr points to “clues indicating that CBS had been infiltrated.” For example, “A news editor remembered the CIA officer who used to come to the radio control room in New York in the early morning, and, with the permission of persons unknown, listened to CBS correspondents around the world recording their ‘spots’ for the ‘World News Roundup’ and discussing events with the editor on duty. Sam Jaffe claimed that when he applied in 1955 for a job with CBS, a CIA officer told him that he would be hired–which he subsequently was. He was told that he would be sent to Moscow–which he subsequently was; he was assigned in 1960 to cover the trial of U-2 pilot Francis Gary Powers. [Richard] Salant told me,” Schorr continues, “that when he first became president of CBS News in 1961, a CIA case officer called saying he wanted to continue the ‘long standing relationship known to Paley and [CBS president Frank] Stanton, but Salant was told by Stanton there was no obligation that he knew of” (276). Schorr, Daniel. Clearing the Air, Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1977, 277, 276."

Oswald's Mother Essays on the assassination of JFK by George W.Bailey LINK >>>> http://oswaldsmother.blogspot.com/ ____________________________________________________________ Tuesday, November 18, 2014 " Oswald and Paine Weekend Timeline, October-November, 1963 You can learn a lot from studying timelines in a case, any case. It allows for a linear approach to events that’s similar to standing on the highest mountain and looking down. Everything regarding unfolding events is made clearer. So what follows is the timeline of Lee Oswald’s weekends at Ruth Paine’s home from October to the last weekend before the assassination. It was chosen as there were so many sightings of Oswald at various locations, mainly the shooting range, on the weekends when Ruth Paine is maintaining that Lee was at her house on those days except for the last weekend before the assassination when he stayed at the rooming house. Perhaps she was not lying at all, if there is an impersonator in play. Warren Commission lawyers knew there were problems in Ruth’s testimony as so many people were seeing Lee at the Sports Drome Rifle Range when he wasn’t supposed to have been there. Eventually, they just had to let it all be. Please note that on those days or weekends that Ruth Paine maintains that Lee was at her house, he is not supposed to be seen anywhere else, especially at night. Yet witnesses reported seeing Oswald at various locations from Dallas to New Orleans. October 6 - Sunday (p. 713) At Ruth Paine’s home all day Sunday. Spent the nights of the 4th, 5th and 6th at the Paine home. (According to her Testimony.) Activities for Saturday unknown but he did write a letter to The Worker stating he had attended an ACLU meeting the evening of the 5th. Mrs. Lovell Penn reports seeing men shoot in her pasture. She is worried about her cows getting shot. She warns them and gets a nasty reply from one of the men. She threatens to call police if they do not stop shooting. Later, Mrs. Penn ID’s Lee Oswald as the man that was rude to her in her pasture. October 12-13 - Saturday and Sunday (p. 722-723) At Ruth Paine’s home. Oswald spent the weekend at Paine’s home. Not seen elsewhere. October 18-19-20 - Friday, Saturday and Sunday (p. 730) At Ruth Paine’s home. (According to her Testimony.) October 18. According to Wesley Frasier, drove Lee Oswald to the Paine’s home for his birthday that evening. October 19. Doorman for The Count of Two Sister’s Restaurant in New Orleans, Leander D’Avy, reports seeing Lee Oswald, David Ferrie, his boss Gene Davis, and four other unidentified men in the storeroom, converted to an apartment. NOTE: Gene Davis is an FBI informant starting in October of 1961. October 20. At the Paine home. Not seen elsewhere. Daughter Rachael born at 10:41 PM that night. He was not present at the hospital for the birth. October 26-27 - Saturday and Sunday (p. 736) At Ruth Paine’s home both days. (According to her Testimony.) First known trip by Lee Oswald to the Sports Drome Rifle Range. Arrives at dusk and seen by employe Malcom Price. Seen driving himself to the range. Also noticed by the owner, Floyd Davis. October 27. Seen at the Paine home in the yard by neighbor. November 2-3 - Saturday and Sunday (p. 744) At Ruth Paine’s home. (According to her Testimony.) Lee Oswald seen test driving a red Mercury at the Downtown Lincoln-Mercury Dealership. Later that day seen at Morgan’s Gun Shop in Fort Worth. Spent Sunday, November 3, at the Paine Home. Not seen elsewhere. November 9-10 - Saturday and Sunday (p. 758-763) At Ruth Paine’s home, both days. (According to her Testimony.) Saturday seen shooting rifle at the Sports Drome Rifle Range. Sunday, test fired rifle at the Sports Drome Rifle Range and seen by Malcom Price and Garland Slack. Later, witnessed by Harvey Wade at the Carousel Club at 11 PM that night. Oswald was seen with two unidentified men. November 16-17 - Saturday and Sunday (p. 770-773) Lee Oswald spent the last weekend before the assassination at the rooming house on Beckley street in Dallas. Oswald was not seen anywhere on Saturday. November 17, Sunday. Seen at the Sports Drome Rifle Range, noticed by Dr. Homer Wood and teenage son, Sterling. Later, Garland Slack complains to the owner that Oswald shot at his target. Afterward, seen at Jack’s Bar in Dallas by witness Vern Davis. Returns to the Paine home on Thursday, the 21st, for the final night. Sources Harvey and Lee by John Armstrong. All page numbers referenced are from his book." Ruth Paine Warren Commission testimony HERE. Links to this post

http://www.rense.com/general96/phonycasu.html see below ================================================ Phony Reports of Russian Casualties in Ukraine Resurface By Stephen Lendman 8-28-15 ============================ Throughout 17 months of Kiev aggression on Donbass, reports of alleged “Russian aggression” have been a complete fabrication - including fake numbers of nonexistent military casualties. No matter. Phony anti-Russian accusations persist - the latest from Forbes magazine (its motto: “The Capitalist Tool”). Its source: a dubious Delovaya Zhizn (Business Life) Russian web site. Its March 2015 article headlined “Increases in Pay for Military in 2015” claimed “official figures (reveal) the number of Russian soldiers killed or made invalids in eastern Ukraine” - the story a complete hoax, falsified information later removed, picked up in its original form by Forbes, then reported by NBC News, the London Independent, The Times Europe, the International Business Times, Daily Beast, other publications and Washington’s Radio Free Europe/Radio Europe propaganda - all repeating the same Big Lie without checking sources for verification. None exist. Two former US ambassadors to Russia, a former one to Ukraine and Washington’s ambassador to the OSCE tweeted comments about Business Life’s report, suggesting its legitimacy. In contrast, Bloomberg’s Leonid Bershidsky tweeted: “That ‘Business Life’ report of Russia’s Ukraine casualties is a fake. Bs-life.ru - come on, are you serious? (Plus the ‘B Ykpanhe (Ukraine) slip).” BS indeed! AP’s Nataliya Vasilyeva called “(t)he ease of spreading rumors in the digital world…astonishing.” “Two days of Western officials retweeting a Forbes report quoting a Ukrainian web-site quoting a non-existent Russia new web-site re Ukraine.” “The main problem here is, of course, where was the Forbes online editor when the story was published, why nobody bothered to check sources?” Russian media watchdog Roscomnadzor found four so-called Business Life-named publications - newspapers and magazines, not web sites. The Delovaya Zhizn (bs-life.ru) site mentions no reference to print or mail subscriptions, its publisher, editor, other staff or contact information, except for an online reply form. RT International made contact with someone called Anatoly Kravchenko - “introducing himself as ‘representing’ Delovaya Zhizn (Business Life).” Via email, he said: “On August 23, the editorial staff received emails requesting clarification of the information contained in the article, in its last part. This is how we discovered that the site had been hacked… and an editor removed the part of the text added by the perpetrators to the story.” He indicated Business Life’s site was hacked on August 22, “allegedly from a Kiev-registered IP address,” RT reported. Kravchenko claimed the publication has no “political orientation and does not support any political power in the RF (Russian Federation).” RT explained it can’t confirm Kravchenko’s identity, adding: “something which apparently did not stop Western news outlets from citing (unsubstantiated) claims.” They’re pervasive in propaganda reports - the way crabgrass infests lawns. Paul Roderick Gregory wrote the Forbes article. He’s an anti-Russian right-wing Hoover Institute research fellow. Some of his other recent propaganda articles were titled: “Is a slow Putsch against Putin under way? “Putin in the dock” “The dirty bomb - A thwarted Putin false flag operation? “Russia’s veto of the MH17 UN criminal tribunal is an admission of guilt” In May 2014, he called “Putin’s Ukrainian executioners worse than Stalin’s.” Roderick is a propagandist masquerading as a journalist - featuring streams of anti-Russian disinformation and Big Lies. His August 25 article headlined “Russia Inadvertently Posts Its Casualties In Ukraine: 2,000 Death, 3,200 Disabled,” saying: Putin “decreed that all Russian casualties in peacetime be a state secret…Dissident Boris Nemtsov was murdered shortly before completing his study of Russian casualties in Ukraine.” Fake Russian civil rights groups “working against the fog of official resistance, could only confirm several hundred (nonexistent) battlefield deaths.” Fact: Putin had nothing to do with killing Nemtsov. Claims otherwise were fabricated. Fact: Longstanding Russian policy classifies military wartime casualties. Fact: Putin decreed all peacetime special operations military casualties a state secret. State Duma defense committee parliamentarian Franz Klintsevich said disclosing them “means telling everything about the character of (operations) and forces involved in (them).” “Today, this is hardly justifiable…The international situation is so unstable that a new conflict can take place anywhere and we must prevent such threats and when it is possible we should launch preventive measures, including special operations.” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Putin’s decree has nothing to do with conflict in Donbass. He has no intention of ordering special operations anywhere in Ukraine. Russian Institute of Military and Political Analysis deputy head Aleksandr Khramchkhin said Putin’s decree conformed to generally accepted practices in other countries. “(I)n the USA, all actions of their special forces are an absolute secret, both in war and in peace. Nothing is known about them,” he explained. Roderick implied Russia is concealing information about its (nonexistent) involvement in war on Donbass. He called the dubious Russian Business Life web site “scarcely an outlet for sensational information - reporting fabricated Donbass military casualty figures, erroneously claiming “Russian censors quickly removed the offending material…” The publication removed the fabricated information added by Ukrainian hackers - webcached by Google in its original form, claiming Moscow paid monetary compensation to families of Russian soldiers killed or disabled “in military actions in Eastern Ukraine.” Roderick lied claiming the “revelation of more than two thousand combat deaths in east Ukraine not only destroys the Putin myth of a small number of deaths of Russian patriots defending Russians in Ukraine from neo-Nazi extremists but also demolishes Putin’s cover story that no ‘active’ member of the Russian armed forces is or has been in Ukraine.” Perhaps he inadvertently slipped admitting deployed “neo-Nazi extremists” involved in combat against Ukrainian citizens in Donbass. He debunked legitimate Kremlin claims about fabricated accusations. He lied claiming “what should be obvious to all: (Nonexistent) Russian troops are in east Ukraine and are being supplied with heavy weapons by Russia. (Its) dead are secretly transported back to Russia for furtive burials.” He ignored unsourced Business Life claims until removed. No evidence corroborates them. None exists. His article repeated the long ago discredited claim about so-called “Russian aggression” in Ukraine. None exists - not now or earlier.

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C'mon Laverik get with the game here. There is no onus on anyone to prove anything, that includes you! You are way out of line demanding anything from anyone.. If you don't like certain published material, simply do your own book concerning the subject matter... in other words, put something on the table other than noise... You're suspiciously sounding like a CT preparing for lone nut conversion.... I've seen this before, in fact, many times before.... Same old same old.... and the nutter beat goes on! JAMES A. Spencer http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/O%20Disk/Oswald%20Lee%20Harvey%20Russia%20Imposter/Item%2013.pdf

Like the Bolton Ford 'incident', we have an Oswald look-alikey buying trucks under his own name while the person he is clandestinely impersonating is in Russia.// LAVERICK =================== IRRITATION GOES BOTH WAYS . PLEASE ANTI H & L people keep your stories straight... I BELIEVE PARKER STATED THAT IT WAS JUST A FELLOW WITH THE SAME NAME , NO ?? . ,gaal === see http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313378 ============= READ INFO OF ARMSTRONG IN ABOVE POST >> THIS FELLOW SAID LEE AND HE WAS BIGGER (heavier) THAN HARVEY. NOT EXACTLY ALIKE .,gaal BELOW HARVEY AND LEE ===================== When Moore saw that Deslatte had written his name on the bid form he asked that the name be changed to "Friends of Democratic Cuba." Moore's friend looked· at the form and said, "By the way, you'd better put my name down there because I'm the man handling the money." When Deslatte asked, "What's your name?" the man replied, "Lee Oswald." 61-04 Sewell described Lee Oswald as, "5-foot-6 or 5-foot-7, thin, about 140 pounds, and thought he needed a meal and a haircut. He recalled that Oswald was clean but "wasn't well dressed and he wasn't shabby." >>>> (might have smelled of fish ,LOL.,gaal see >>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313364)

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Despite Admitting to Voting Fraud at last Two Presidential Elections, County Officials in Atlanta get off with just $180,000 in Penalties = Published: August 28, 2015 = http://www.blacklistednews.com/Despite_Admitting_to_Voting_Fraud_at_last_Two_Presidential_Elections%2C_County_Officials_in_Atlanta_get_off_with_just_%24180%2C000_in_Penalties/45916/0/38/38/Y/M.html = Source: All Gov. = A key Georgia county with a large population of black voters has been fined $180,000 for breaking state voting laws more than two dozen times. Fulton County, home to Atlanta and a significant number of black voters who vote Democratic, kept thousands of voters from having their ballots included in the final results of the 2008 and 2012 elections. Officials “admitted to illegally disenfranchising and misleading voters” and to violations of “improperly rejecting eligible ballots and sending voters to the wrong precincts,” according to ThinkProgress. They also failed to comply with voter requests for absentee ballots, provided wrong information to precincts about who was coming to vote and when, and failed to add to the rolls voters who registered in a timely manner, among other violations. The controversy cost the job of the head of Fulton County’s elections office who claimed she was fired for refusing to cover up improper purging of thousands of voters from the rolls in 2012. The names of about 9,600 voters weren’t included on registration lists at polling places that year, forcing those individuals to cast provisional ballots. Georgia has a record of disenfranchising voters of color, including its 2006 enactment of one of the country’s strictest voter ID laws. During the past several years, the state reduced the number of early voting days from 45 to 21, and this year made an unsuccessful attempt to cut the 21 days down to 12. This year also saw the cancellation of registration of hundreds of thousands of voters, reportedly in error, resulting in the resignation of the Georgia Director of Elections. In addition to paying a fine of $180,000, Fulton County promised to spend $200,000 on software to better train their poll workers. -Noel Brinkerhoff, Danny Biederman To Learn More: Georgia County Admits To Illegally Disenfranchising Voters (by Alice Ollstein, ThinkProgress) State Approves Fulton Election Settlement (by David Wickert, Atlanta Journal-Constitution) Fulton Elections Board Fined $180,000 For Violating Election Laws (by Sean Keenan, Creative Loafing) Stonewalling in Georgia: As Election Day Nears, Judge Refuses to Force Secretary of State to Process 40,000 Missing Voter Registrations (by Noel Brinkerhoff, AllGov) Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State Fights to Delay Registration of Tens of Thousands of New Democratic Voters (by Steve Straehley and Noel Brinkerhoff, AllGov)

GREG WHAT DID Eisenhower say about the BAY of PIGS latter. THANKS gaal

So why does every one of your witnesses mistake 'Lee' for 'Harvey'? // Laverick ====================================================================== You start a double operation. Kept secret via keeping doubles apart a lot (not totally). Ideas change ( as ideas often do) and you now also want to make sure the operation is hidden deep. If you wanted to hide a double operation program, how could you do it ?? // GAAL __________________________________________________________________ TRY AND GUESS (no not go to the moon for green cheese per Graves)