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Good Day.... The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map is now updated that further provides 11-22-63 evidence, victims precise kill zone locations, witnesses locations, films + photos witnesses locations, suspected bullet trajectories, + additional important information + considerations gathered for you in one convenient resource + is always freely available for your key considerations + independent determinations, here.... (this Dealey Plaza Detailed Map updates my prior maps provided during the recent 21 years) .... Following the Dealey Plaza Detailed Map are also provided 5 additional key info graphics + considerations. (attached with this post is also available the Dealey Plaza Detailed Map without the additional info graphics + considerations) .... The easy to follow directions for printing your own free copy of the map are detailed for you on page 5 within my "Men of Courage: President Kennedy-elimination" homepages website. With respect to when you want to freely link to it for your research posts, presentations, and for including for your forum and website, please feel free to do so, anytime. .... Please feel free to share the DP map updated link with all friends + researchers. Best Regards in Research, ++++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepages Website: "Men of Courage": President Kennedy-elimination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, + Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... ( updated map, + new information ) Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll .... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://i.imgur.com/rfRH5jX.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in-garbage-out.... http://i.imgur.com/r8Ga26x.gif T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov

The 11-22-63 Dealey Plaza Detailed Map Updated, + New Address Good Day.... The Dealey Plaza map that details 11-22-63 evidence, victims precise kill zone locations, witnesses locations, filmers + photos, suspects + suspected bullet trajectories, & additional important information + considerations gathered for you in one convenient resource has been updated with new evidence + information, and is now always freely available for your key considerations + independent determinations, here.... (this Dealey Plaza Detailed Map updates my prior maps provided during the recent 21 years) .... Following the DP map are also provided 5 additional key graphics + considerations. .... The easy to follow directions for printing your own free copy of the map are detailed for you on page 5 within my "Men of Courage" homepages website. With respect to when you want to freely link to it for your research posts, presentations, and for including for your forum and website, please feel free to do so, anytime. .... Please feel free to share the DP map updated link with all friends + researchers. Best Regards in Research, + ++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepages Website: "Men of Courage": President Kennedy-elimination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, + Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... ( updated map, + new information ) Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS's Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll .... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://i.imgur.com/rfRH5jX.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in-garbage-out.... http://i.imgur.com/r8Ga26x.gif T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov

FYI.... THOMAS LEMUEL "Lem" JOHNS has passed-on. On 11-22-63 he was one of the Secret Service Agent's riding within Dealey Plaza in an enclosed car behind then-Vice President LYNDON JOHNSON. JOHNS stated to the HSCA that, "the first two [audible muzzle blasts and/or mechanically suppress-fired bullet bow shock N-waves] sounded like they were on the side of me towards the grassy knoll" [RIF 180-10074-10079]. JOHNS remembered hearing/could hear a total of 3 blasts and/or shockwaves that sounded relatively evenly-spaced apart. JOHNS stated to VINCE PALAMARA in 2004 that he was NOT the agent that DP-witness/Dallas police patrolman JOE MARSHALL SMITH soon encountered behind the grassy knoll picket fence. DP-witness/NBC movie camera-filmer DAVE WIEGMAN stated to GARY MACK that while WIEGMAN was on foot in Dealey Plaza during and in the immediate aftermath of the shots, WIEGMAN did NOT ever see JOHNS up on the grassy knoll hill. Here is Mr. JOHN's obituary in the Washington Post.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/former-secret-service-agent-lem-johns-dies-at-88/2014/05/11/193327d0-d925-11e3-bda1-9b46b2066796_story.html <QUOTE> Former Secret Service agent Lem Johns dies at 88 Cecil Stoughton/AP - Lem Johns, with dark hair, stands partially obscured behind Jacqueline Kennedy, right, as President Lyndon Johnson takes the oath of office on Air Force One in 1963. By Terence McArdle Lem Johns, a Secret Service agent who guarded Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson during the Kennedy assassination, returned on Air Force One to Washington as Johnson was sworn in as president, and later headed Johnson’s presidential security detail, died Saturday at his home in Hoover, Ala. He was 88. His death was announced by his grandson, Michael Johns, according to the Associated Press. On Nov, 22, 1963, the day of John F. Kennedy’s assassination in Dallas, Mr. Johns was one of three Secret Service agents riding in a convertible behind Vice President Johnson and his wife, Lady Bird, in the presidential motorcade. Agent Jerry Kivett drove the agents’ car and monitored radio reports of the parade. Suddenly, they heard the first two shots. Though unsure whether he had heard gunshots, vehicle backfire or firecrackers, Mr. Johns jumped from the security car and made a dash for the car carrying Johnson. However, after a third shot, the entire motorcade sped up. Mr. Johns, on foot, was left behind on the street. Rufus Youngblood, the chief agent in the Johnson security detail, used his body to cover the vice president and Mrs. Johnson as their car followed the Kennedy vehicle and a Secret Service car to Parkland Hospital. Amid the chaos, Mr. Johns climbed aboard a car carrying photographers, then moved to the sidecar of a police motorcycle en route to Parkland. He found Johnson and the other Secret Service agents at the hospital, waiting as surgeons worked on Kennedy. Texas Gov. John B. Connally also was wounded but survived. When Kennedy died, an unmarked police cruiser took Johnson and agent Youngblood to Love Field where Air Force One waited to fly Johnson to Washington. Mr. Johns, who had been seeking a secure hospital exit for Johnson and Youngblood, had to leave for the airport in another police car. Once at the airport, Mr. Johns screened all those who boarded Air Force One while awaiting the arrival of first lady Jacqueline Kennedy and the casket carrying the president’s body. There were concerns about the possibility of an attempt on Johnson’s life. Mr. Johns was among those gathered in the Air Force One stateroom when Johnson was sworn in as president. In White House photographer Cecil Stoughton’s photo — perhaps the most famous picture ever taken aboard Air Force One — Mr. Johns stands behind Mrs. Kennedy as Johnson takes the oath of office. The Treasury Department, then in charge of the Secret Service, gave Mr. Johns an award for his actions on that day. He advanced to chief of the president’s detail in 1965, and assistant director of the Secret Service in overall charge of the protective forces in December 1967. During the Vietnam War, the Secret Service found itself on the front lines of violent anti-Johnson demonstrations. During a 1966 presidential trip to Melbourne, Australia, protesters drenched Mr. Johns and Youngblood in paint intended for the president. Another Secret Service agent, Bob Taylor, had his foot run over while getting between demonstrators and the presidential car during the melee. Mr. Johns left Washington during the Nixon presidency but returned to work as administrative chief and security director for Joseph A. Califano Jr., then secretary of health, education and welfare under President Jimmy Carter. Thomas Lemuel Johns was born in Birmingham, Ala., on Dec. 11, 1925. Mr. Johns served in naval aviation during World War II and then worked as a Birmingham firefighter. He graduated from Howard College (now Samford University) near Birmingham and served as a criminal investigator for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. He joined the Secret Service in 1954 and served on President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s security detail during the last two years of the Eisenhower administration. According to the New York Times, survivors include his wife, Nita; a son, Jeff; three grandchildren; and five great-grandchildren. Three generations of the Johns family have served in the Secret Service. In addition to Mr. Johns, son Jeff was on President Ronald Reagan’s security detail and grandson Michael was on details for Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama through 2010. In 1998, Justice and Treasury department lawyers were considering legislation to exempt Secret Service agents from subpoenas regarding personal and political information overhead during their protective duties. Mr. Johns favored such a law and tried to clarify the types of information that agents could be called to provide. “If an agent witnesses a criminal act,” he told Newsday, “I don’t see that we can say we refuse to testify. But if something is in the realm of a personal or professional confidence, that should be exempt.” He added, “You don’t ever want the president to tell you when you’re leading him to the presidential limousine: ‘We’re going to be talking about some top-secret stuff today. So we’re going to take a cab.’ ” CLARIFICATION: The caption with the photograph accompanying this story has been changed to indicate where Mr. Johns is standing. An earlier version accurately said he was behind Jacqueline Kennedy but did not specify where. <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research, + ++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepages Website: "Men of Courage": President Kennedy-elimination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, + Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://i.imgur.com/rGmmWxD.gif ( 2012 updated map, + new information.... Updated map coming) Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS's Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll .... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://i.imgur.com/rfRH5jX.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in-garbage-out.... http://i.imgur.com/r8Ga26x.gif T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov

Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS ZAPRUDER Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll by Donald Roberdeau © 2001 .... has been moved to here Best Regards in Research +++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges clearly T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore

Good Day.... FYI.... http://www.science.t...u/articles/969/ (QUOTE) With Eye Toward Justice, Prof Takes Statistics to the Courtroom (PHOTO) http:// * no space * www.science.tamu.edu/articles/Spiegelman_USconstitution.jpg DR. CLIFF SPIEGELMAN Texas A&M statistician Cliff Spiegelman applies his professional expertise to make a difference in the courtroom, helping to provide justice for those wrongly convicted of crimes on the basis of flawed forensic science. (PHOTO) http:// * no space * www.science.tamu.edu/articles/Bullets_Spiegelman.jpg EVIDENCE IS EVERYTHING Photograph of one of the two full boxes of Mannlicher-Carcano bullets -- the same type believed to have been used in President John F. Kennedy's assassination -- that Spiegelman's team bought and he helped analyze for their previous award-winning study. Manufactured in 1954, the bullets now are considered antiques, Spiegelman says, mainly because most surviving bullets have been bought up by conspiracy buffs. COLLEGE STATION -- Cliff Spiegelman keeps a thank-you note from a client, along with a retainer for his professional services on that effort, a $1 bill. That's more than the distinguished professor in the Texas A&M University Department of Statistics often gets for his public service. But his mission to improve forensic science in the criminal justice system isn't about money. "I couldn't sleep at night, knowing that I didn't stand up and do the right thing," Spiegelman said from his office, where the United States Constitution, in four-poster-sized frames, looms over his desk. Spiegelman makes a few out-of-state trips a year to testify in cases in which he believes the forensic science is flawed. He often works with the Innocence Project, the national non-profit legal clinic dedicated to exonerating wrongfully convicted people through DNA testing and other post-verdict methods. But before Spiegelman agrees to take on a trial-level case, he has a prerequisite: He has to be convinced there's a chance the defendant is innocent. "My conversations with the defense lawyers go something like this: If your guy confessed to you and you believe him, please find someone else," Spiegelman said. Relying on his statistics expertise, Spiegelman was an ardent opponent of a method of forensic testing called Comparative Bullet-Lead Analysis (CBLA), which partly through his work the FBI discredited in 2007. The abandoned technique, which used chemistry to link bullets from a crime scene to those owned by a suspect, was first used following the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Spiegelman admits it's often been a challenge bringing statistics to the criminal justice system, where the concept of stare decisis -- the legal reverence to precedence -- makes changes to the system difficult. But, he says, it's a mistake not to embrace statistics in the courtroom. "There's always the chance of error," he said. "So, for instance, if a hair from the defendant is similar to one found at the crime scene, the issue is, what is the frequency of hairs that are similar in the general population? Ninety percent? Ten percent? One percent? The relevance of the evidence is based in part on how common it is. And that's a statistical issue." Spiegelman's interest in statistical forensics was sparked in 2002, when, because of his expertise in statistics in chemistry, he was appointed to serve on a National Research Council (NRC) panel to study bullet lead evidence. During the meetings, he would step out to inject himself in the stomach with a high dose of interferon as part of a difficult chemotherapy treatment. Spiegelman's doctor gave him a 50 percent chance of living. Instead of quitting the panel to focus on his treatment, Spiegelman immersed himself in the work with the stark realization that it could be his last professional act. The treatment was a success, and while he overcame the threat to his life, his passion for statistical forensics remained. In 2008, Spiegelman was a co-recipient of a prestigious national award for leading a team**** that published a paper finding that forensic evidence used to rule out the presence of a second shooter in President Kennedy's slaying was fundamentally flawed. He shared the American Statistical Association's 2008 Statistics in Chemistry Award with Simon Sheather, professor and head of the Texas A&M Department of Statistics, William D. James, a researcher with the Texas A&M Center for Chemical Characterization and Analysis (CCCA), and three other co- authors. ( ****NOTE.... the entire team that published its "The Annals of Applied Statistics" (2007) peers-reviewed research paper was Cliff Spiegelman, William A. Tobin, William D. James, Simon J. Sheather, Stuart Wexler and D. Max Roundhill.... The paper, "CHEMICAL AND FORENSIC ANALYSIS OF JFK ASSASSINATION BULLET LOTS: IS A SECOND SHOOTER POSSIBLE?" is always available for you here.... http://arxiv.org/pdf/0712.2150.pdf ) The paper showed that the bullet fragments involved in the assassination were not nearly as rare as previously thought, and that the likelihood that all the fragments didn't come from the same batch of bullets also was greater than previously thought. Bullet matches were found to be much more likely than was indicated in testimony presented before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, which was formed in 1976 to investigate the assassinations of President Kennedy and Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., as well as other shootings with similar national prominence. Spiegelman doesn't take a stance on whether he believes presumed assassin Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. That's beyond his scope of examining the quality of the CBLA forensic science, he says. And though he often receives letters because of his assassination research -- like the one from a clergyman who says he delivered last rites to a condemned mobster in Central America who said the mob was involved, and the Aggie who claims to have found the second shooter's rifle in a hotel room the day after the assassination -- he stresses that he's not a Kennedy assassination buff. But Spiegelman says the Kennedy case is the ultimate example: If the science could be wrong in a case with intense public interest and with the government having all the resources it needed, then it certainly could -- and has often been -- wrong in much more low-profile cases. Spiegelman says the discrediting of CBLA as an unreliable procedure was the result of a years-long, multi-pronged effort. One of his co-authors on the Kennedy paper -- William A. Tobin, a former chief metallurgist for the FBI -- had been raising concerns about the technique since the 1990s, leading to the convening of the NRC panel that studied the technique. But it wasn't until national media such as CBS' 60 Minutes and The Washington Post started reporting on CBLA in 2007 that the FBI officially announced it would permanently discontinue use of the procedure. "It takes a village to take down bad forensic science," Spiegelman said. Spiegelman was a founder within the statistical sciences of the field of chemometrics, the science of using data to extract information from chemical systems. He also is a senior research scientist at the Texas A&M Transportation Institute, the state of Texas' transportation research agency. He joined the Texas A&M Department of Statistics in 1987 as an associate professor and became a distinguished professor in 2009. For more about Texas A&M Statistics, visit http://www.stat.tamu.edu. To learn more about the Innocence Project, go to http://www.innocenceproject.org. (END QUOTE) Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Suspects + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries and Considerations.... http://droberdeau.bl...ination_09.html Dealey Plaza Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... http://img831.images...dated110110.gif (updated map coming in 2012) Visual Report: "The FirstBullet Impact Into President Kennedy: while JFK was Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' ".... http://img504.images...k1102308ms8.gif Visual Report: Reality versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-In, Garbage-Out.... http://img248.images...ealityvscad.gif Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll".... http://educationforu...?showtopic=2394 T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/ + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Better to light a candle, than, curse the darkness." (Chinese proverb) "If you want to get ‘even’ with someone, start first with the Ones who have been Good to You."

Good Day .... Happy New Year, + wishing all the Best for you + your Loved Ones! Because AOL ceased its files transfer protocol (FTP) service, within one of my public President Kennedy assassination visual files, I have updated for you the free Dealey Plaza detailed map (that includes the additional 5 followup important graphs, charts, + information). The detailed DP map is always available for you, here (updated in 2017).... https://i.imgur.com/8vSS1dp.gif + I have also updated the exact same Dealey Plaza map (without the 5 followup important graphs + charts), that is always freely available for you here.... https://imgur.com/a/1aS7j A long time, dedicated researcher recently told me that he had a commercial business place print onto one sheet just the Dealey Plaza map without the 5 followup graphs, charts, + information (and it cost him $ 97). You can easily assemble your own DP map for free by printing it onto twelve, 8.5" by 11" paper sheets.... then, trimming off the blank border.... then, simply matching up and adjoining the sheets at their common edges points with clear tape. I also have available for you a DP map that is four times larger in size when you email me privately via my contact information. Your comments, and your specific referenced critiques are always welcomed. Any + all of your referenced information will be considered for inclusion for our DP map when you email me via my contact information. Please feel free to bookmark the maps in your favorites file, + check back periodically as I usually update them regularly with additional evidence + new information. Best Regards in Research, ++Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, "Big John," Plank Walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Visual Report: The First Impact: while JFK was Still Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree' Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll Homepages Website: President JOHN F. KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Research + Discoveries Links T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore National Terror Alert for the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/ "A red-brown to black area of skin surrounds the wound, forming what is called an abrasion collar. It was caused by the bullet's scraping the margins of the skin on penetration and is characteristic of a gunshot wound of entrance. The abrasion collar is larger at the lower margin of the wound, evidence that the bullet's trajectory at the instant of penetration was slightly upward in relation to the body." - HSCA vol.17, pg.175, describing President KENNEDY's, theorized, not-completely-probed, neck and back wounds

.... N E W .... GORDON ARNOLD - Additional Claims about the Knoll-Wall Good Day.... The following are just a portion of the 16-page transcript quotes of a forty-five minute interview of self-claimed Dealey Plaza witness, Gordon Leslie Arnold, that was administered June 6, 1989 by interviewer Conover Hunt for the "Oral History Collection" done at "The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza." Isn't it amazing how, no matter which side of the "picket fence" you are on with respect to what you think about Arnold's claims, that the mere mention of his name sometimes --much more often with a few persons, than others-- can be enough to get one's self feeling (hopefully temporarily) just -- a --- bit ---- anxious. The transcript is annotated that it was originally transcribed by Stephen Fagin, November 2003, then, the transcript was revised by Stephen Fagin and Gary Mack in "January/February 2004". What follows are just some of the 6-6-89 additional claims and/or additional details that Arnold made to Hunt in 1989 (after Arnold's "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" 1988 shown interview had already been filmed and aired) that have not been previously publicized in any other newspaper article, documentary, or book. (in transcript-quoted, transcript-chronological order) Arnold claims, "And on that particular morning, I was going to be going to Fort Wainwright, Alaska, the following week, and my parents had bought me a brand new, modern camera to make movies with" Please recall that in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" documentary that Arnold stated, matter-of-factly (a couple times), that the movie camera belonged to his Mother, and, he claimed, because it was sentimentally his Mother's that was the reason he initially did not want to give up the entire camera to the, supposed, "badgeman" that he claimed kicked him a couple times. In this 1989 "SFM" interview Arnold claims he parked, "on the other side of the tower," "before noon time." Arnold claims he went to Dealey Plaza because while driving he noticed the people lined-up and he wanted to test the new movie camera. He claims he did not know anything about the presidential motorcade, "because in the military training that we had, we weren't allowed to read newspapers, listen to radios, nothing like that." (which, in my military experience, was true only for recruit training "boot camp," but was not true for any advanced special training after boot camp) Arnold claimed on 11-22-63 he had been in the United States Army, "approximately nine months," and that during his three years of service he, "was in a special unit." (but he never details which "special unit") Arnold claimed the first encounter with the, supposed, "agent" occurred "down to the very corner where there's a… a drainage ditch" ....probably meaning the vertical sewer at the junction point where the west end of the north stockade picket fence adjoins the north end of the triple overpass bridge. Please recall how in 1988's "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" where he was first filmed stradling, was filmed noticeably far away from the picket fence, and, the vertical sewer does not even appear in the background. (in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" he does mention that the agent first approached him from around up off the north side of the triple overpass bridge) Arnold claimed he, "weighed 175 pounds," and, "I was nothing but muscle." Does the, supposed, "Arnold" image "seen" in MOORMAN #5 polaroid photo enhancements appear to to you to be "nothing but muscle", or, does the, supposed, 5.8' tall "Arnold" image appear to you to have a somewhat noticeable "gutt"?; a gutt "seen" from a lower MOORMAN position, rising above above a 3.3' tall wall. Arnold claimed the, "agent" told Arnold that the agent, "was with either the CIA or Secret Service." When the "agent," supposedly, encountered Arnold again and told Arnold, again, to leave the area, Arnold claimed he thought or said aloud, "Well, horse rots" and then (probably thought to himself) "I'll just go around it and get on the other side of the fence. You know, I'm away from his territory. I'm in mine now. I get on the other side, and man, everybody's in good positions to take pictures but ole' Gordon here, so… (chuckling) So, the big problem was… is that there use to be a directional identification billboard out here. And it was just past the lampost." Arnold claimed, "at that point in time they were putting dirt on the knoll. There was a mound of dirt. And I said, 'Well, I'll stand on the mound of dirt.' And I was doing some practice pan shots" The ground between the retaining wall and the picket fence line may, or may not, have then had a thinnish layer of dirt on its top in that area, possibly even a grass-people-traffic-worn-showing dirt top, but, there are no photos, no film evidence, nor a single witness(es) statement(s) that there was ever an obvious, distinct, raised, rounded, "mound of dirt" --anywhere-- in that knoll/wall area. Professional surveys from the trapezoid points between the "badgeman" tree, picket fence corner, retaining wall southeast inside corner, and the northernmost wall corner (along with my several personal extended trip/vacations I have made to the plaza in the 80's and 90's) all reveal that trapezoid that ARNOLD claimed he was within to be relatively level. Conover then asks Arnold where he was standing in relation to the north pergola steps, to which Arnold claims, "OK. OK. The steps would be almost----I would say in front of me, but it's not in front of me because I'm standing askew to the steps----more towards the street than I am the steps." "And I'm up as… I'm about three feet from the fence." Please recall that the 1978 "Dallas Morning News" photo that shows Arnold standing noticeably much closer to the picket fence than the retaining wall that he stood closer to by 1988's "The Men Who Killed Kennedy." Conover then asks, "Between the steps and the fence?," to which Arnold replies, "Yes." *NOTE* that Arnold claims he was BETWEEN the steps and fence --in other words, he is specifically claiming he was specifically in the grass between the fence and the steps-- but he was not on the grass between the east edge of the sidewalk and the west edge of the retaining wall, he was not on the sitting bench, he was not on the west edge of the steps, he was not on the east edge of the steps, he was not on the steps or the top step, he was not on the pergola sidewalk, he was not on the west edge of the sidewalk, and, he was not on the east edge of the sidewalk. Based on the physical layout of the steps/retaining wall/picket fence corner I cannot visualize his above strange, imho, concurrent added claim that he was also "more towards the street than I am the steps." (perhaps he was trying to vocalize that his claim was that his facing direction --not his standing location-- was facing turned "more towards the street"?) Conover then asks, "So, the steps were east of you?" to which Arnold replies, "Right." (So, he has already said he was 3' from the picket fence, and the pergola steps, not the pergola sidewalk, are east of his standing location point) Arnold then claims he, "still didn't know what was happening until, well, the motorcade came around the corner…" (yet, he also claimed he had been there since just before noon. He claims he has been there 30+ minutes before the attack, so, is it logical to you that in that 30+ minutes before the attack that he, never once, reasoned just why so many people were pouring out of the buildings and gathering together, and/or, he never once even took just a few short seconds to casually ask someone --anyone-- just what was going on? Exactly WHAT did Arnold imagine/think the C.I.A. "agent" --or was it a secret service "agent"-- was doing there, anyway?) Arnold goes on, "And I said, 'Well, that looks like the presidential flag.' And I still really wasn't convinced, but I put the camera up, had it all wound up, and just as the nose of the car started to come into the… into my viewfinder, I pulled the little switch on it. And just as I started to pan and I was almost parallel to the street is when the… I want to say noise. It's not a noise. You feel something go past you, and then you… it's almost instantaneous. You'll hear a noise following behind it, and to me, I knew I was dead because that was a bullet that just went over me. And it's not a span of time that this occurred in. This happened, what I'm telling you, is all in one sequence because when the shot went past my ear, I was automatically falling. And when I was falling, I was still taking... The camera was still rolling. And I could see the president's head go back. Now that's the last that I remember being on the camera, but when I went down, I literally went down and when you're… you're taught to roll…" "…to get down as deep as you can and away from the line of fire. And I would say that another shot went over my… the position that I was in, but the… when that occurred, I was down. I had my face… I had rolled over once, and my face was now down. By now, the camera had quit running by this point in time. OK. At that… it seemed like eons, but it's not. A short period of time after that, somebody kicked me in the derrier, and now, I'm not in the mood to be kicked to begin with. And I was upset because I knew the president had been killed, and I turned over and I was ready to hit somebody. And I was facing a large bore weapon, and the man was crying." Conover asks, "What do you mean by a large bore weapon?" to which Arnold claims, "Like a shotgun…" "… but it looked… it was big enough for a truck to drive through." So, Arnold is claiming one shot was fired while Arnold was standing only 3' from the picket fence with the pergola steps in front of him, and Arnold first instinctively reacted to a bullet going over him. He implies that he rolled over one complete revolution, and since we know that no one is seen in photo nor films just west of the retaining wall --near that 3' from the picket fence Arnold claims-- he is clearly implying that he had to have rolled somewhere east or northeastward out of sight of all cameras --and towards the eardrum busting, very close bullet that he claimed in 1978 and 1988 passed very close to his left ear. *NOTE* that here Arnold said a bullet went over him but does not say --as he did in 1978 and 1988-- that a bullet went past his left ear. Also note that in 1978 Arnold claimed he was kicked not by the "badgeman," but rather by a "badgeman accomplice" also dressed in a D.P.D. uniform (in 1978 the *first* D.P.D. uniformed "badgeman accomplice" had the additional Arnold claim that "badgeman accomplice" was also wielding a visible, drawn, held revolver), but by 1989, Arnold has now mutated his claim to the "badgeman" himself was now the only kicker ---while he is holding that waving, large bore, shotgun-like weapon. When asked how far away from him the "badgeman" was, Arnold claims, "He was just out of arm reach, down to the barrel" and, "He was between me and the fence." After Conover asks if Arnold saw from where the "badgeman" came from, Arnold claims, "No, not where he came from, but now, people were moving at that point in time. Some were running away from where I was at. Some were running up the hill. What I couldn't understand is, he took the film out of the camera, pitched the camera back to me, and then he came back towards the… along the fence line towards the parking area," and yet, not one single witness, nor one single photo/film confirms an armed, crying D.P.D.-uniformed assassin kicking anyone and waving a large weapon around for all these persons that Arnold, by his own 1989 claims, said were now "running up the hill" past the, supposed encounter only a few yards away. *NOTE* that Arnold never once mentions a second D.P.D.-uniformed "badgeman accomplice" in his 1989 claims, even though he detailed a second D.P.D.-uniformed "badgeman accomplice" carrying a revolver --and who did the kicking-- in his 1978 claims. And here's one of the 1989 Arnold claims that REALLY caught my attention. A claim that I have never in 29+ years ever heard a single researcher ----including the "badgeman" founders---- ever mention, much less, provide the details of for us, nor has it ever appeared in ANY photo enhancement: "He had a… it looked like a Dallas Police officer's uniform, and he was a white male. He had… oh, back in those days, it's what they use to call shooter's glasses. Oh remember the… it was like a yellow tint to the glasses. It kept the glare off your eyes." I can just visualize the MOORMAN photo enhancer-artists that also think that "Arnold" is "seen" in MOORMAN now scrambling and having to alter their black and white and water-colorized enhancements to match this additional, "important" claim by Arnold to now "show" the, supposed, "badgeman" glasses with yellow-tinted lenses, and don't forget to add-in the glasses frame of these, "shooters glasses," and remember to trim "Arnold's" gutt to appear as, "nothing but muscle." During the experiences of war, in hunting, for target-practice, and when trap and skeet shooting, most persons still do call them "shooter's glasses," Gord-ee-oh. Arnold claims the "badgeman" was in his, "late-twenties, early thirties," had dark hair, "was not fat," "was stocky," "had a ruddy complexion," and was, "a little bit taller than I was" (Arnold states he was 5' 10.5" tall, = 5.87') The, supposed, badgeman, Arnold goes on to claim, "had dirty fingernails" that Arnold claimed he noticed while he was watching the "badgeman" trigger finger during the, supposed, encounter. Of the encounter, and "badgeman" during the encounter, Arnold claimed, "And with him shaking like that, it was going back and forth, and it just shook me up." "He had tears coming down his eyes, but he… when I left here, I got to my car as fast as I could." Arnold goes on to claim that he told his girlfriend-later-his-wife, "Now, I explained to her what had occurred, and I had explained to my parents what had occurred" and after he left Dallas to travel to Alaska, he stopped-over in Seattle and "explained to the officer-of-the-day where we were being billeted what I had seen." Arnold further claims, "The… my son and daughter now know about it." Then this strange exchange: Arnold: Well, I went into the service… Conover: What year? Arnold: …in '66. I say "strange" because earlier in his claims in this same 1989 interview Arnold stated that he started serving in the U.S. Army in 1963 (possibly, that is a transcription error?) Arnold then claims that while serving on a court trial jury he told a fellow University of Texas at Arlington student who was researching the assassination the "true" story of what happened --according to Arnold. Arnold claims he took this UTA student to the "grassy knoll" and that the student took a photo of Arnold standing on the "grassy knoll" Arnold goes on to describe how Nigel Turner found Arnold, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" filming, etc. Of the "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" segment where Arnold, supposedly for the first time, views the enhanced "badgeman" image after flipping up the piece of cardboard, Arnold claims that "badgeman" was Lucien Sarti when Arnold elaborates to Conover after Conover asked what the assassin looked like, "And… well, if you have the tape, he's in the tape." (unless Arnold is saying the assassin was someone else who appeared in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy") I guess the Frenchman, Sarti, did not speak with a, noticeably, French accent when he spoke to Arnold, aye? If I recall correctly, Gary Mack once emailed me and said that "The Men Who Killed Kennedy"/Steve Revile French-Corsican-mafia-were-the-assassins-theory was "nonsense." Arnold further describes how he was shown several mugshot-type photos by Turner or a Turner assistant, and after about 30 seconds he was "semi-sure" he identified one of them as being the third assassin team member (or second assassin team member, depending on which year version of Arnold's claims he was claiming to Turner) -- the "hard-hat badgeman accomplice" that is, supposedly, "seen" in the MOORMAN polaroid enhancements. (I wonder why this important identification of the "hard-hat badgeman accomplice" was not filmed, or, if filmed, why it was also not shown in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy"?) About how long the encounter with the, supposed, "badgeman" lasted, Arnold further claims, "That lapse of time that you're talking about, and I… I… It would be no more than thirty seconds because, in all honesty at that point in time, there was a lot of police officers up or coming up the hill or were on the knoll." Please read my study, "The WILMA BOND Photos Do Not Timestamp ARNOLD's Presence Anywhere on the Grassy Knoll" linked to below. Incredibly, Arnold goes on to mutate his story, temporarily, within this very same 1989 interview when he goes on to claim to Conover Hunt, "And believe it or not, I say there was four or five shots fired. I know there was two fired over me, but now the… the problem with this particular area is that you've got reports going off between buildings." Conover asks, "So, you were aware of shots being fired before the ones came over your head?" to which Arnold claims, "To be honest with you, no." Arnold claims he never heard anyone talking from behind his, supposed, filming/standing location. Arnold again claims how the highway sign blocked his camera filming view just before the attack started, and how Arnold had his body parallel to the street direction when "his" first shot went over him (or, was it to the left of him?). But, in utilizing and calculating on a professional surveyed map from the area where "Arnold", supposedly, stood during the attack --from the intersection point of the Z-202 "black dog man" mandatory line-of-sight with the Z-315.6 MOORMAN mandatory line-of-sight for the "Arnold" image, or, from that BDM Z-202 line-of-sight 3' from the picket fence, or, from the Z-315.6 MOORMAN mandatory line-of-sight for the "Arnold" image at 3' from the picket fence-- the highway sign (presumably, the "Stemmons" sign) would horizontally block President Kennedy from Arnold's view from before Z-133 (on the left north edge of the sign), through only about Z-160 to 175 (when the president would have emerged from the right south edge of the sign) Also, please recall that Gary Mack has stated that Arnold claimed to Gary in 1982 that Arnold starting walking forward towards the retaining wall (southeastward), from a grass point nearer to the "badgeman" tree, just as the limousine entered Elm Street, and while Arnold --as Arnold claims-- was panning his camera around in practice. Arnold claimed he was walking southeastward, with his (or did it belong to his Mother?) new-to-the-touch/unfamiliar-with-all-mechanisms-feeling movie camera, raised up to his eye, panning the camera around in arcs, walking towards an imminent crest/drop-off of a "grassy knoll" hill that surrounds the steps top, and/or, bumping into the retaining wall, and/or, tripping on the straight-edge of the pergola sidewalk, and/or, and/or bumping into whomever spilled the red drink onto the east sidewalk edge, and/or tripping-down-into-MOORMAN's-view because he did not see the top pergola step, and/or, all the while, walking up onto then standing upon a raised mound of dirt that no other witness that went up there has ever spoken of, that no one captured in any photos/films, nor is documented by a single professional surveyor on any of the professional land survey maps and professional plats performed in 1963/1964. Arnold further claims the movie camera film was color, 8mm, brand "Kodak" (but he gives no "Kodak" specific film type), and admits he, "was concentrating more on the… on the camera and the---what I keep saying---stupid people in front of me because I couldn't get up to where I could see what was going on." "And I rolled, and when I rolled, the camera was still running. So, it would have taken a picture of the fence…" "…and anything behind it." Ahhhh-hah !!.... Now we know why the, supposed, "badgeman" wanted to get "Arnold's" film.... .... "badgeman" saw the camera, and/or saw the camera laying on the ground facing him and the "badgeman" thought he may have been exposed on film.... .... But wait.... .... Why did the "badgeman," completely illogically, give the movie camera BACK to Arnold?!!? ----you know, so Arnold could keep safe the same movie camera that, most likely, now also had "badgeman's" fresh fingerprints well preserved for the authorities to find on the movie camera's outside AND on the inside the movie camera???? Maybe it was just that the "badgeman" already knew beforehand that he, or any of the other conspirators, did not need to ever worry about any serious investigation by the "authorities." With some of these additional claims that Arnold "illuminated" and ruminated about during his 1989 "SFM" interview, you can count on that I will be updating my research study, "The WILMA BOND Photos Do Not Timestamp ARNOLD's Presence Anywhere on the Grassy Knoll," currently available for all, here .... http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14115&st=0#entry163847 Best Regards in Research, Don Donald Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges clearly T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore National Terror Alert for the United States:

Good Day.... The following is a transcript of the handwritten, portable, personal diary journal segment by Dealey Plaza very close assassination witness, MRS. JUNE DISHONG that contains her 11-22-63 assassination observations. The observations were discovered by her daughter shortly after MRS. DISHONG passed-on in 1998. Because it made MRS. DISHONG sad to the day she passed-on, her daughter has described to me that her mother hardly ever mentioned the assassination nor that she was a very close witness. DISHONG never initiated conversations about the attack, and it was hard to get her to discuss the details, which surprised her family because, other than her reluctance to discuss the assassination, DISHONG was a gregarious and very talkative person. In reading DISHONG's observations it appears to me that DISHONG wrote them throughout the day of 11-22-63. It appears to me that her assassination related comments end early in the afternoon because her last portable diary journal entry lines talk about TV scenes at Parkland Hospital of persons reacting to the announcement of President KENNEDY’s death. DISHONG is seen in the ZAPRUDER film standing along the Elm Street north curbline, just east (Z-frame leftward) of the "Stemmons" freeway sign. She is the fourth person to the frame-apparent left of the sign, with darker, somewhat short hair, wearing a blouse with red and blue plaid stripes, and a dark colored skirt. (in her diary she estimated that she was 30’ from the corner, which I took to be the Elm Street curving abutment corner between Elm Street and the Elm Street Extension road. MRS. DISHONG’s family has confirmed to me that she pointed herself out to the family in a "Life" magazine that they still have, and that she said she was the 4th person seen to the left of the SFS in the Z-film) Her position has also been precisely determined within my Dealey Plaza detailed map, available for you, here.... https://i.imgur.com/8vSS1dp.gif She can also be seen in the BETZNER photo (simultaneous with Z-186), and the BRONSON photo (simultaneous with Z-227). Importantly, and very important to her attack observations of DISHONG remembering hearing 3 audible muzzle blasts and/or mechanically suppress-fired bullet bow shock N-waves, President KENNEDY was exactly even with her at Z-222-223, when just as he passed DISHONG the president's waving arm dropped down and then slipped off the side of the car, when the first blast or shockwave (or the first closely spaced volley of shots, I would add) of the 3 that DISHONG remembered hearing (or *could* hear) was fired. Along with her closely detailed, shots-to-JFK-reactions timestamped attack observations, I also found very interesting her watching a gathering of persons on top of the roof of the County Courts Building before the attack. DISHONG’s living daughter has told me.... "She said that the shots came from behind her, on the knoll." MRS. DISHONG's daughter does not recall her ever giving an estimate of the total seconds from 1st blast to the last, nor if the blasts sounded the same (or not), nor how many seconds were in between each blast. Her daughter also later wrote me that her mother, "worked for 'Higginbottom and Baily’, on the corner." (IIRC, "Baily" was correctly spelled "Bailey") Here are MRS. DISHONG's handwritten notes.... <QUOTE> (page 1) Fri 11-22-63- This morning started as usual with the alarm radio rousing us at 5:45 AM. As we go through the hectic hour of dressing, breakfast and readying(sp) our self for a days work my thoughts are on a trip to K.C. It is misting rain this morning and I had better wear a raincoat and take my umbrella as I have 6 blocks to walk from where I park to where I work at the corner of Elm + Houston. I had read an item or two of President Kennedy’s tour and this was the day he would drive though Dallas, but I was absorbed in the starting of my day and my work (page 2) Better hurry its 10 to 7 and I must be at work by 7:45. The morning is long - its only 9 AM. I look out the front window of the building I work in and think - there’s not many people on the street but its early for them to start gathering - looks like it will clear off. hope the sun comes out for the motorcade. I wonder what time they will be by here. At 10 AM - coffee break. I learned that the Presidents party was due at this end of town around noon. Although I hadn’t considered going down stairs to watch for them I began to get excited about the thought of seeing the (page 3) President and his wife and mulled over the thought of going down stairs. Another trip to the front window. The sun is out and it’s a beautiful day - how nice. 11:45 the excitement is building. Word came from the front office the(that) the Kennedy plane has landed but he is delayed shaking hands with people. 12:00 He is late getting downtown. We have time to eat lunch and get out in front. 12:15 Better put on my jacket it might be chilly although the sun is shining bright. We go down the elevator at the back of the building and across the corner (page 4) down the side walk in front of the Texas book depository and about 30 feet beyond the corner. The sun is warm. I’ll take off my jacket we might have quite a wait for the president’s car. I look back up the mall. The grass is green and the shrubbery is orange and brown foliage and is beautiful in the bright sun- shine. I hear the sounds up around the corner. The people are leaning out the windows and I can see a large group on the roof that hang out from (page 5) the Court house. Around the corner come 4 motor cycle police men with their white helmets and gunning their motors as they move along slowly. A car full of men a short distance behind them. Still no car with Jack + Jackey. Suddenly the crowd begins to respond and we can see people in the windows at the court house waving and shouting. 4 more motor cycle policemen and here come the president and his wife - No hat on his head. His arm in the air waving and that great big smile of his. Jackie beside him her arm raised in greeting to all of us (page 6) A pink suit. Pill box hat to match. Black hair just as we had seen them so many times on T.V. - it was beautiful. He drops his arm as they go by - possibly 20 feet. Suddenly - a sound. Gun shots? So hard to tell above the clamor of the crowd. The President bent forward into his wife’s lap as his arm slipped off the side of the car. Jackey circled him with her arm. Another shot. Panic among the people. Woman with children. Parents pushing them to the ground. No one knows where the shots are coming from. (page 7) A cry. The President has been shot. A third shot. People scatter. I can’t believe what I have seen. The picture of the man falling forward. I cover my face to blot out the picture, but that I can’t do. I must get away from that horrible picture. I turn and run back to our building up 3 flights of stairs. Already the word has proceeded us. What has happened. Someone says someone has been shot. The President --no no. Dear God no. Where is he How bad. Who did it. I think I’m going to be sick. (page 😎 All I can see is that form crumbling forward. I can’t shut out the picture. I can’t think. Only a cry inside myself. It can’t be so. May be he was just getting out of the way. We turned on radios. It was true. He had been shot once or twice. No one knows. We know we heard 3 shots. Police cars. FBI men. The street seething with them. Riot guns. The building across the street. They’ve found the gun. Shells. 6 floor front window If any one of us had looked up when we were looking out possibly we would have seen this man. No one even thinks of working. Just milling around. (page 9) People crying. Praying Hoping. At last, word he is dead. I must go home where I can shut my doors and draw the blinds. This horrible thing has happened to this man. The symbol of our country and all we believe in, in this city that I am a part of. Among people that are gentle and kind and deeply aware of God and the bible. I fight this feeling. I must get as far away as possible because miles won’t take away the tragedy of this day and no matter how bright the sun is it will be forever a dark day (page 10) At home. Trying to think. Turn on T.V. Everyone in a turmoil. Word from the hospital of his last moments and Jackie. People gathered around the building crying. Dazed. Unable to accept the fact <END QUOTE> Best Regards in Research, + ++Don Donald Roberdeau United States Navy U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, plank walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges clearly For your key considerations + independent determinations.... Homepages Website: "Men of Courage": President Kennedy-elimination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, Suspects, + Key Considerations.... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Documented 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Outstanding Researchers Discoveries, + Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource.... https://i.imgur.com/8vSS1dp.gif ( updated map, + new information ) Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS's Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Head Snap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll .... http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "Magic-limbed-ricochet-tree".... http://i.imgur.com/rfRH5jX.gif Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in-garbage-out.... http://i.imgur.com/r8Ga26x.gif T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore For the United States: http://www.nationalterroralert.com/advisory7regional.gif http://www.dhs.gov