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10 minutes ago, Ty Carpenter said:

Joe,

 

This thread puts a thought in my mind about Aubrey Rike.  He has had at least 4 unusual interactions with the assassination. 

 

2. He was the driver who picked up Belknap immediately before the leader of the free world was to make an appearance in that very spot.

Can anyone point me in the direction of Rikes biography? Specifically, I am wondering what his profession was after he quit the ambulance job. 

Was Aubrey Rike the driver of 606?

 

http://www.billdrenas.com/articles/dpd01-00.pdf


12:18  289 (D.V. Harkness) radios in, “Give us an ambulance, 100 block North Houston Street. Epileptic seizure. ...make it a Code 3”.  
12:19 Central dispatches 606 to that location. 606 was from the O'neal Funeral Home.
“What's your location?”
606 responds, “We're at about Harwood and Cedar Springs.”
12:20    “10-4 Code 3 on Signal 28 (a sick person). 100 North Houston
    Dispatch tells 289 that 606 is at Harwood and Cedar Springs
12:23    606 reports that he is “Out”
12:24    Dispatch responds “10-4”
12:25 606 reports in that he is enroute to Parkland with a Signal 16 (an injured person)
    Dispatch asks if he needs a squad to meet him there. 606 says yes.
12:26    Dispatch instructs 23 (Patrolman B.E. Barnes) to meet 606 at Parkland on a Signal 16.
    23 responds, “10-4”.
Barnes apparently did not file an after-action report (at lease one does not appear in the DPD Archives JFK Collection).

I wondered if the same ambulance was at the scene of the Tippit shooting, but it looks like he arrived after Tippit had already been taken away by then.

1:33 reports in, “606 , Code 6”  (Arrived) 

602 and 603 were dispatched to 10th and Patton, and it appears from the Dispatch tapes that the ambulance from the Dudley Hughes Funeral Home took Tippit to the Hospital. I didn't realize that Dudley Hughes was located so close to the Tippit scene, but at 1:26 #279 (Patrolman J.T. Griffin) reported in that they had found a white jacket, believed to belong to the suspect, in a parking lot behind the service station in the 400 block of East Jefferson “across from Dudley Hughes.”

It also appears that at that time, and at least in Dallas anyway, ambulances were attached to the funeral homes and not the hospitals. That's a curious thing.
 

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In TMWKK there was an odd story about a funeral director. He had disappeared either shortly before or after the assassination for a few days. Upon his return he had come into some money and was acting strangely, moving his family from place to place.

Does anyone know his name or which home he worked for? I am not sure if it was even in the Dallas area.

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Jerry Boyd Belknap's short obit and high school photo:

http://www.angelfire.com/tx/rangerexes/1959j.htm

Hi Jeffrey, 

Several years ago I started at the link above and thought at the time that I had tracked down Jerry's sister, Janice Odom, and Janice's golfing son as well. I've lost track of my notes and don't remember the son's name - your golfer might be a different guy? I could be wrong, but everything about Janice Odom seemed to fit way back then. 

Tom

 

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48 minutes ago, Tom Hume said:

Jerry Boyd Belknap's short obit and high school photo:

http://www.angelfire.com/tx/rangerexes/1959j.htm

Hi Jeffrey, 

Several years ago I started at the link above and thought at the time that I had tracked down Jerry's sister, Janice Odom, and Janice's golfing son as well. I've lost track of my notes and don't remember the son's name - your golfer might be a different guy? I could be wrong, but everything about Janice Odom seemed to fit way back then. 

Tom

 

Hello Tom,

Sorry, I got jumpy. Wrong people. Found his brother though, and sister, as of 9 years ago. 

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2 hours ago, David Andrews said:

If we see a lot of Army presence in Dealey, we need to look forward to William Pepper's findings about Army intel and snipers in Memphis for MLK's assassination.  The late Rich Della Rossa had similar information on his website, but I imagine that's gone now.

Paul, I don't know about Walker as a plotter.  I suspect he was well-connected in the military right, and useful as a figurehead and an agitator, but had limitations in several directions that excluded him from the higher echelon of military planning.  And it's impossible to look at the coverup and not see CIA cooperation with the military and military right, at least.  I know you know that.  

David - really curious about William Pepper. Upcoming book?

i know what you mean about Walker. What brought it to mind was the Paine's post assassination phone conversation. And of course CIA cooperation. Lemnitzer and Dulles both got dismissed. Btw have you seen the info on Prescott Bush's dinner with Dulles after he was removed as CIA director? That really got to me. 

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Paul,

Do you have a link or further info in regards to the Prescott Dulles Dinner?

Those Bush's sure do have a thing with dinners at strange times with strange people.

You have the Prescott/Dulles dinner which I had never heard before. Then you have the scheduled Neil Bush Scott Hinkley dinner that was to happen the day after the Reagan attempt.  To top it off, you have Poppy Bush having breakfast with Bin Laden's brother and others the morning of 9/11.

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Paul, I too would like to know where to find info on that Prescott Bush/ A Dulles dinner.

Regards Aubrey Rike, I always thought of him as kind of the Dennis David of Dallas.

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2 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

David - really curious about William Pepper. Upcoming book?

i know what you mean about Walker. What brought it to mind was the Paine's post assassination phone conversation. And of course CIA cooperation. Lemnitzer and Dulles both got dismissed. Btw have you seen the info on Prescott Bush's dinner with Dulles after he was removed as CIA director? That really got to me. 

It's in his most recent book, "The Plot to Kill King," which is a rewrite of a previous version called "Orders to Kill.":

https://www.amazon.com/Plot-Kill-King-Behind-Assassination/dp/1510702172/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496350295&sr=8-1&keywords=William+Pepper

There are plenty of Black Op Radio episodes with Pepper talking about the Army in Memphis - check the 2017 posted shows for shows 818 and 829 to see if he says it there.  Also search this page for other MLK/Army mentions: http://www.blackopradio.com/archives2017.html

When Rich Della Rossa died, I copied some of the best King assassination pages from his forum and saved them on one of my many hard drives - I may be able to find them in the next month and either post them somewhere with permission, or send them to you by e-mail.  I'll let you know.  Della Rossa's forum was excellent.

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I know I'm raining on parades but for something much more accurate take a look at the Army Intel after action reports on Memphis, they are available and cover the deployments in great detail.  Or read Stu and my analysis of the military and police intelligence activities in The Awful Grace of God - which presents our alternative view as compared to Pepper...who literally changes witnesses, sources and suspects in every successive book - while calling each previous set dishonest.  . 

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10 hours ago, Ty Carpenter said:

In TMWKK there was an odd story about a funeral director. He had disappeared either shortly before or after the assassination for a few days. Upon his return he had come into some money and was acting strangely, moving his family from place to place.

Does anyone know his name or which home he worked for? I am not sure if it was even in the Dallas area.

Ty, Restland Funeral Home His name was John Liggett. There is a thread on him from 2005.

His brother, Malcolm Liggett sued the History Channel for the episode, and they settled out of court. He wasn't the funeral director but was  first class in doing reconstructive work and worked at the funeral home but did his own freelance jobs.

Kevin Fong summarizes the episode below. I add a few notes.

Here’s a summary of the story as told in TMWKK:

John Liggett was a highly-skilled embalmer who worked at the Restland Funeral Home in Dallas. Co-worker Charles Smith remembered him as being the best person around doing reconstructive work. But Liggett also had a secret life and would be gone from the job for days or even weeks at a time. On the day of the assassination, Liggett was at Restland attending the funeral for the aunt of his wife of three months, Lois. He was suddenly called to the office from the grave side and when he returned he told his wife that the president had been shot and that he had to go to Parkland Hospital.

When he returned home about 24 hours later, he was tired, disheveled and agitated. He told his wife and step-children that they had to get out of town for a while “until all of this blows over.” They drove at high speed to Austin, then San Antonio. There were brief stops along the way for huddled conversations with various contacts. On Sunday, they were watching television in a hotel room in Corpus Christi and saw Ruby shoot Oswald. As soon as he saw that, he turned to his wife and said, “Everything’s OK now.”

They returned to Dallas, but their life-style changed. After the assassination, Liggett seemed to have come into a lot of money. They moved into a luxury home and Liggett became a big time gambler hosting big, wild poker parties. At one point, there was a visit from one of Liggett’s eccentric friends from New Orleans. He told his family that he and this friend had been together in the Civil Air Patrol. The family now thinks the visitor was David Ferrie.

Liggett and Lois divorced in 1966. They both remarried but remained close. In 1974, Liggett was arrested for the attempted murder of Dorothy Peck. About a year later, Lois was contacted by Malcolm Liggett, John’s brother. Malcolm told Lois that for the safety of herself and her family, that she should have no further contact with John. Lois and her family moved to Lubbock and a few weeks later John was shot in the back. On the morning of February 14, 1975 John Liggett was being transferred, with other prisoners, from the Dallas courthouse to the county jail. Liggett slipped from his handcuff and was shot in the back while trying to escape.

But there are further mysteries in the John Liggett story. In 1992, Leona, John’s wife at the time he was killed, disclosed that the body that she was asked to identify in 1975 was not the body of her husband John. For one thing, the corpse had a mustache and John Liggett never had a mustache and was not capable of growing one.

Recently, Lois was convinced that she spotted John in a casino in Las Vegas. After his divorce from Lois, John worked for several years in a casino in Las Vegas. Also recently, a photograph surfaced showing John Liggett’s brother Malcolm posing with Jack Ruby in Ruby’s Carousel Club.

Here’s that photo taken at the Carousel. From left to right: Susanne Liggett (wife of Malcolm), Malcolm Liggett (brother of John), Jack Ruby, unidentified person, Iris Campbell who was later to become a friend of Lois and her daughter Debra Godwin. The rest of the people in the photo are unidentified. Sorry for the poor quality of the photo. If anyone has a better version, please let me know.

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  • What I might ad about Iris Campbell. Years after her divorce from Liggett , his ex wife Lois moved to Lubbock, Texas and was later in her church group befriended by Campbell,a woman who had become a new resident, who after a period, mysteriously left.This woman was later identified by Lois in  that picture with  Liggett's  brother Malcolm and Jack Ruby. It was then reasoned that this woman was a spy to Lois  to see if she would eventually divulge her JFK assassination story with her ex-husband Liggett.
  • This thread at one time had this photo link, but they have expired. If anyone can produce it, please do.

 The story is often dismissed, I would assume because 1)  it is an incredible story, though supported by the accounts of Liggett's ex wife and her daughter as to many matters, the getaway with Liggett after the assassination, later the kids making fun of David Ferries unusual appearance at the Poker parties, and their verification as to  the authenticity of the photos of the "spy lady" Iris Campbell, Liggett's brother, Malcolm with Jack Ruby, all together.Though I'm sure others could positively verify from the photo whether Malcolm did in fact know Jack Ruby..There have been  passing references to John Liggett as being crazy and a lair(sp),(not to mention, murderer) though the story itself involves no narrative from Liggett. 20 years later, he was also mentioned by a  well known lair, Billy Sol Estes, though I believe he mentions nothing about Liggett being involved in the Kennedy assassination.

10 hours ago, Ty Carpenter said:

In TMWKK there was an odd story about a funeral director. He had disappeared either shortly before or after the assassination for a few days. Upon his return he had come into some money and was acting strangely, moving his family from place to place.

Does anyone know his name or which home he worked for? I am not sure if it was even in the Dallas area.

 

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