Chris Davidson Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 The Allan photo and Towner film frame composited, creates the animation. I have put a straight red line on the wall and labeled the three wall sitters. These same three wall sitters appear in Croft. If they are sitting on the wall (three in a row) in Croft, why don't they align with the wall angle in Towner? The orientation of these three wall sitters to the photographer, seems like a close match in Towner and Croft. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 (edited) I used the guy in the yellow square as a marker to line up the frames: Edited December 9, 2007 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 If the sun is from the southwest, what causes the big shadow/mask job within the limo? Why does the wall stop in Towner (runs into the shadow/mask area), and not extend as it does in the Allan photo? The three Croft wall sitter's appear incorrectly oriented in the Towner frame. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 If I take a photo of people attached to an object (wall) in Croft, shouldn't they be attached in Towner? No matter what angle I'm at. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 (edited) In Bronson we see most of the wall, and i don't see anyone even close to the wall. Edited December 9, 2007 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 (edited) Chris.It has been said more than once that the 3-spectators are SITTING on the wall. In Bronson we see most of the wall, and i don't see anyone even close to the wall. I see where they are now, right at the end of the wall near the Curved concrete footpath area. In the Allen photo they would be hidden behind the Cops head. Edited December 9, 2007 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Robin's quote: "It has been said more than once that the 3-spectators are SITTING on the wall." If I am Croft and I insert myself into the Towner photo at my camera position, I photograph people in front of the wall, a person behind the wall and then our 3 wall sitters behind them. (Depicted in photograph). In fact, draw a straight line from the person in front of the wall, to the one directly behind it, to the wall sitter's. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernice Moore Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Chris : I believe what you are seeing as the wall, could bethe turned up sun visors on the XP 100.... B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Bailey Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Nice discovery... The Great Wall of Deception! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 Are they really on the wall? chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Chris, I think your clever animation ignores the height of the photographer. Tina was much shorter than the tramp photographer. Very interesting animation! Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maarten Coumans Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) Post removed Great fotowork, Chris! Maarten Edited December 11, 2007 by Maarten Coumans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 The background of this clip shows the camera was zooming in on the president.Don Don, I don't believe she was zooming as her left hand is into her face, not on the front end of the camera. (Movie) Even in her interview in "Murder in Dealy Plaza" she just describes tracking the limo as is depicted in Dorman's film. I understand the Dorman clip is short and Towner is filming further east up Elm in it, but I would find it hard to believe she started zooming at any time. I'm also wondering how someone's hand can be as tall as their neck and hat combined. Besides the wrist appearing to disconnect from the hand. (animation) chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Bailey Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Chris, In slow motion you can see the camera zoom in.... if Tina didn't do it then we have an alteration of the film. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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