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Lee Cahalan

On balance what is your opinion of Alex jones?

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The three false flag bombing are part of one larger operation. (please dont miss GLOBAL RESEARCH dossier on Syria link below)

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PART ONE OF TWO

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from Firstpost World

The best way to defang Iran is by regime change in Syria

By Yogi Aggarwal

Israeli belligerence and aggressive designs on Iran may hurtle the world into a deeper crisis than the one brought about by the American invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Israel has indicated that it might bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities in a risky attack by 100 fighter aircraft. They would have to fly over 2,000 miles in a “huge and highly complex operation” through hostile countries such as Syria, Iraq and Iran, refuelling in mid-air to bomb what it allegedly calls a nuclear weapons programme that is almost ready.

Even western powers such as the US, Britain and France, which are not exactly friendly to Iran, have been alarmed at the dangerous consequences of an Israeli attack on Iran. It would trigger a regional conflagration with uncontrollable global consequences, the closure of the Straits of Hormuz through which one-fourth of the world’s oil supplies pass, a global economic crisis and possible terrorist strikes against Western cities.

The Guardian believes that an attack on Iran would be an act of criminal stupidity. In a recent article, it argues: “The same discredited arguments used to justify the disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan – from weapons of mass destruction to sponsorship of terrorism and fundamentalist fanatics – are now being used to make the case for an attack on Iran.” Though the neo-cons in US and elsewhere back the dangerous Israeli adventure, others in the defence establishment are more cautious.

While US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta let it be known that Israel could attack Iran later this year between April and June, he also told a CBS TV programme ‘Face the Nation’ last month, “Are they trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No. But we know that they’re trying to develop a nuclear capability. And that’s what concerns us.”

Meanwhile, Israeli agents, probably with the help of the US, have carried out covert assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists, physical sabotage of Iranian nuclear facilities, and cyber warfare against Iranian centrifuges in the form of the Stuxnet virus.

There is a huge difference between nuclear capability and an almost-ready nuclear weapons arsenal. Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, enough to blow the oil-rich Gulf back to the stone age. Iran is trying to build a capability linked to its civilian programmes. Such a capability would not be a threat to Israel but would blunt its strategic edge. It would limit the US’ “freedom of action” in the Middle East as unchallenged hegemony. Such freedom of action is apparently the prerogative of the US and its allies (read Israel) and not of other independent states.

Iran’s nuclear status may be likened to “keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons” rather than putting together a bomb and attaching it to a missile. It’s a long road from one to the other. The Iranian capabilities are best explained in a paper ‘Crying wolf about an Iranian nuclear bomb” in the January 2012 issue of the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, the most prestigious forum for nuclear risks and disarmament.

It reveals, “Top policymakers in the United States and Israel have heightened the crisis not just by their belligerent rhetoric and aggressive covert actions, but also by endorsing highly generous assessments of Iranian nuclear technical capacities, which make it seem as if the birth of an Iranian nuclear bomb is just around the corner.”

It continues, “Even though Iran’s claims that it is open and honest with international nuclear inspectors are unbelievable, that does not mean it is hiding a sophisticated weapons program. In fact, the record shows that Iran’s distinct tendency is to exaggerate its nuclear accomplishments … Indeed, in recent years its number of working gas centrifuges has actually been declining …is it really reasonable to expect such low-quality, brittle technical infrastructure to create a single, Hiroshima-size nuclear device — let alone a bona fide nuclear weapons arsenal?”

Other strategic analysts are equally skeptical. The British security journal RUSI, bought out by Royal United Services Institute, in an analysis last month said: “The peaceful applications of nuclear energy include steps that can greatly shorten the lead time toward acquiring nuclear weapons. In Iran’s case, the research reactor at Tehran (supplied by the United States during the Shah’s reign) does require 20 percent enriched uranium to function — but that is exactly the sort that can easily be enriched to weapons-grade.”

If Iran is not just months away from a nuclear weapons capability, what is all the bluster and bluff about bombing Iran and closing the Hormuz Strait all about?

Such sabre rattling, and the sanctions that are inevitable, could be the start of a process of ‘regime change’. It’s not that Iran under the ayatollahs is much better than under the Shah, or that the ‘revolutionary guards’, one of the major props of the regime, are not corrupt and vicious. It’s just that Iran sits on one of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world that have been closed to the western oil companies since 1978.

Sanctions in the past have hurt Iran (and Indian companies such as ONGC drilling in offshore Iranian waters) but the fresh sanctions could get worse. With unemployment running at a record high, and the memory of the rigged presidential elections in 2009 still fresh in people’s minds, discord is growing and could be aggravated by fresh sanctions.

Sanctions are double edged. While they could bring down the present regime, they could also shore up its internal support by an appeal to national interests.

It’s easier to hit Iran by regime change in Syria, which has lived for 40 years under Ba’ath Party rule. The movement for change as part of the ‘Arab spring’ has yet to overthrow the authoritarian regime. As an important supporter of Iran in the Arab world, regime change in Syria would seriously weaken it and strengthen Israel.

This would be a more acceptable part of aggressive diplomacy, than the risky brinkmanship being suggested by Israel and the neo-cons in the US.

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PART TWO OF TWO

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Turkish Secret Agents Trained by the Mossad Captured in Syria

By Global Research News

Global Research, February 22, 2012

According to the Israeli daily Haaretz, "40 Turkish intelligence officers were captured by the Syrian army. "

Turkey has been conducting intensive negotiations with Syria in order to secure their freedom [...] (Zvi Bar'el and DPA, Report: U.S. drones flying over Syria to monitor crackdown, Haaretz, 18 February, 2012)

Haaretz notes that their release would depend on the extradition of Syrian defectors now living in Turkey. Syria is also willing to continue negotiating only if Turkey prevents “weapon transfers and passage of soldiers from the rebels' Free Syria Army through its territory”.

Turkish sources told the Israeli newspaper that Turkey would reject the Syrian demands and was about to strengthen its position on Syria.

The Turkish officers allegedly confessed to the Syrian authorities that they were trained by the Israeli Mossad and were instructed “to carry out bombings to undermine the country's security.” (Ibid.) One officer purportedly admitted that the “Mossad also trains soldiers from the Free Syria Army” as well as al-Qaeda officials on Jordanian soil with a view to send them to Syria to conduct attacks.

These testimonies corroborate information, including from Israeli intelligence sources, indicating the implication of the Mossad in the Syrian insurrection. Several reports also mention the involvement of the CIA and the British MI6, as well as European and American special forces.

The Turkish authorities denied the Israeli report.

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For more on this topic visit the Global Research dossier on Syria. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=newsHighlights&newsId=55

Julie Lévesque contributed to this report.

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FALSE FLAGS WEAKEN IRAN...the bigger picture is changing the government of IRAN.

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The more you dodge and dance the more you reveal your desperation. What does any of this have to do with the authorship of the attacks?

We’re still waiting for you to explain:

- Why, if the Iranian government was NOT responsible for the attacks, they have not produced the man and woman who returned to Tehran?

- the source for your false claim "Nikkhahfard a Boluchistan type name"

As for the supposedly Mossad trained Turkish officers supposedly captured in Syria.

1) Turkey denies this happened

2) The only source for the claim is anonymous sources cited by Ha’aretz, even according to them the only source for the claim they were trained by Mossad was unnamed Syrian government officials quoted by the anonymous sources. And it seems from context the Turks had been tortured.

3) Even IF true, which would not surprise me that much it would not strengthen your theory Mossad was behind the embassy attacks.

EDIT - Formatting

Edited by Len Colby

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Extradition a two way street.??? In my files there was a Javad as a MEK connected Boluchi.(posted such above) Thai bomb maker Javad Nikkhahfard ,so to conclued by me he was a Baluchi no stretch. COLBY = Since you included the given name Javad twice and all capped it once I’m guessing you think it’s “a Boluchistan type name” but it’s not, it is typical of Azerbaijan and northwestern-central Iran.END COLBY. But later COLBY said = First you pushed the theory that Javad Nikkhahfard was a Boluchi but now you’ve reversed tracks and want us to believe he is an Azerbaijani. But his surname seems to be typical of the northwestern quarter of Iran and everyone else implicated was from Iran. In any case Thai police said he is Iranian. = END COLBY

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SIR ?? you said it was Azerbaijan. Well we will see if he has Azerbaijan connections if Iran helps Thailand in the investigation.

I put information about Mossad and Azerbaijan operations. Did that upset you ??

ABNA 2/25/12

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Iran identifies Mossad operative in Azerbaijan

IRI intelligence officials have identified the operative of Mossad, Israel's spy agency, in republic of Azerbaijan, who has been involved in assassinating Iran’s nuclear scientists.

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - The Islamic Republic of Iran has called for the extradition of Mossad’s Iranian spy, identified as Ja’far Khoshzaban, alias Javidan, who has been working under the auspices of Azeri security forces.

Deputy Head of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee Esmail Kowsari said on February 22 that they have obtained documents, which state Azeri officials have aided and abetted Mossad and CIA agents in their targeted killings of Iranian nuclear scientists, namely Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan.

Ahmadi Roshan was targeted on January 11, when an unknown motorcyclist attached a magnetic bomb to his car near a college building of Allameh Tabatabaei University in northern Tehran.

The legislator highlighted that Baku’s alliance with the Zionist regime and US spy networks against Tehran will harm Azerbaijan’s interests, calling on the Azeri government to keep foreign spies away from Iranian border.

Iran's Foreign Ministry on February 12 summoned the Azeri ambassador to Tehran, Javanshir Akhundov, to object to Baku granting asylum to the Mossad-trained assassins of Iranian nuclear scientists.

The Iranian Foreign Ministry also criticized the anti-Iran campaign on state-controlled Azeri news outlets and the degrading behavior of Azeri customs officials towards Iranian truck drivers.

The Azerbaijani ambassador expressed regret over the events and said Tehran's message would be conveyed to Baku as soon as possible and that a response would be relayed to the Iranian Foreign Ministry.

Last year, Majid Jamali Fashi, a Mossad agent who assassinated Iranian nuclear scientist Massoud Ali-Mohammadi, confessed to having received forged documents in Azerbaijan’s Heydar Aliyev Airport to travel to Tel Aviv.

Professor Ali-Mohammadi, a lecturer at Tehran University, was killed when an explosive-laden motorbike was detonated with a remote-controlled device near his home in northern Tehran in January 2010.

Azerbaijan has reportedly granted asylum to the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO) as well as the Party for Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK) terrorists.

The London Times reported on February 11 that the Zionist regime is using Azerbaijan, a small Eurasian country which shares a border with Iran, as a base to spy on the Tehran government.

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link http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/israeli-prime-minister-says-iran-will-be-focus-of-his-talks-with-north-american-leaders/2012/02/26/gIQAJASYbR_story.html

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Ex-Mossad chief sees opportunity in Syrian crisis

By EDMUND SANDERS/LOS ANGELES TIMES/MCT 02/22/2012 03:10

Israel should focus on striking Iran politically and diplomatically – through the fall of Assad, Efraim Halevy tells 'Los Angeles Times.'

By Ariel Jerozolimski

Instability in Syria poses stark security risks for Israel, but also offers a chance to deliver a stinging blow to Iran’s regional ambitions and even its nuclear program, Israel’s former national security adviser Efraim Halevy says.

Israel in recent weeks has been consumed by a debate over the wisdom of launching a military strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. But Halevy, who also led the Mossad spy agency from 1998 to 2002, believes Israel should also focus on exploiting the opportunity to strike Iran politically and diplomatically – through the fall of Syrian President Bashar Assad, a staunch ally of Iran.

Related:

US hints at possibility of arming Syrian rebels

Iran says UN nuclear talks will continue

In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Halevy, now a leading Israeli intelligence analyst, said the country should start to look at Iran and Syria as two sides of the same problem.

You have called Syria the Achilles’ heel of Iran. What do you mean?

Iran has invested enormous efforts in trying to secure Syria as a major partner. The Alawite (Muslim) minority is very close to the Shi’ites in Iran. The Syrian army is mainly based on Alawite command and has units that are purely Alawite.

This makes the Iranian investment all the more important.

Syria is also the conduit for Iran’s arming of the Hezbollah Shi’ite forces in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza. If the regime falls in Syria and the Iranians are expelled, this is going to be a horrendous defeat for Iran.

How does Israel ensure that Iran is defeated in Syria? Wouldn’t it backfire if Israel were seen to be involved?

Israel shouldn’t be directly involved for obvious reasons.

Once Israel enters the fray, this becomes an Israeli-Arab or Israeli-Muslim confrontation, which deflects attention from the main issues of Sunni- Shi’ite, and the Shi’ite repression of a majority in a foreign country. Israel should promote through its channels with major powers in the world a dialogue between leaders in Western nations and Russia to try to forge a common policy on Syria, which would entail mutual concessions at the American and Russian level.

Recently Israel has been very focused on Iran’s nuclear program and the debate over a strike. It is doing enough on Syria?

I don’t have any evidence that Israel is working on this, but I hope some work is being done. Israel has certain interests in Syria which have to be taken into account. The ultimate resolution of this crisis should not leave an Iranian presence in Syria with a weakened Assad. I don’t want to see Iran having its own finger on the button of Syria’s strategic weapons. Israel must make sure this does not happen.

You’ve said that a defeat in Syria would deal a blow to Iran’s nuclear program. Why?

The issue of Syria and of Iran’s nuclear capability are interconnected. You cannot divorce them. Iran’s effort to achieve nuclear capability and its effort to entrench itself in Syria are part of the same multifaceted regional problem.

One of the mistakes we’ve made up to this point is to deal with these issues separately.

Not that long ago, many in Israel were quietly hoping Assad’s regime would survive because he’s predictable in his relations with Israel and is the “devil you know.” With reports that al-Qaida-linked terrorists might be seeking a stronghold in Syria, do you worry that Assad might be replaced with an extremist Sunni regime that is even more hostile toward Israel?

I don’t think this is in the cards. The way things are at present, any replacement of Assad is better.

Even an extremist Sunni regime?

The Sunnis have been oppressed by the Alawites.

They are looking for freedom and dignity and all the things of the “Arab Spring.” They won’t come to power in order to launch an effort against Israel. Their immediate concerns would be to stabilize the situation inside Syria and move as quickly as possible to alleviate the pressure on the society.

There have been a lot of fears that Assad might try to move Syria’s arsenal of chemical weapons and sophisticated missiles to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Though everyone is talking about a military strike against Iran, what are the chances of such an Israeli strike in Syria to prevent weapons from falling into the wrong hands?

I don’t want to preempt Israeli operations or planning.

All I can say is that there are certain things, if carried out in Syria or Lebanon, that would be matters of grave concern to Israel, and Israel would not be able to accept.

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Extradition a two way street.???

I never said anything about extradition. I said the Iranians should ‘produce’ the two, as in make them available for questioning by Thai investigators. But if indeed they were involved and they were not acting with the approval of the government then they must be involved with an anti-government terrorist group like MEK. The government of this country doesn’t stand for any kind of dissent, they sentence people to death for converting to Christianity or advocating a separation of church and state But the Iranians have shown no signs of trying to find them, what explanation can there be other than the operation was government sanctioned?

In any case it seems the lack of an extradition treaty would NOT preclude the Iranians from delivering the two to Thai police if i) they had any interest in doing so ii) Iranian law permitted and iii) the Thais made “an offer of reciprocity”:

“However, some countries grant extradition without a treaty. However, every such country requires an offer of reciprocity when extradition is accorded in the absence of a treaty. Further, the 1996 amendments to 18 U.S.C. 3181 and 3184 permit the United States to extradite, without regard to the existence of a treaty, persons (other than citizens, nationals or permanent residents of the United States), who have committed crimes of violence against nationals of the United States in foreign countries.”

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/15mcrm.htm#9-15.100

In my files there was a Javad as a MEK connected Boluchi.(posted such above)

There you go again conflating MEK and Jundallah.

Thai bomb maker Javad Nikkhahfard ,so to conclued by me he was a Baluchi no stretch.

Yes it was quite a stretch because with a 5 second Google or Wikipedia search you would have confirmed that the name was common in other areas. In any case you said "Nikkhahfard” not Javad was “a Boluchistan type name"

COLBY = Since you included the given name Javad twice and all capped it once I’m guessing you think it’s “a Boluchistan type name” but it’s not, it is typical of Azerbaijan and northwestern-central Iran.END COLBY. But later COLBY said = First you pushed the theory that Javad Nikkhahfard was a Boluchi but now you’ve reversed tracks and want us to believe he is an Azerbaijani. But his surname seems to be typical of the northwestern quarter of Iran and everyone else implicated was from Iran. In any case Thai police said he is Iranian. = END COLBY

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SIR ?? you said it was Azerbaijan.

I said (emphasis added for those who need it) “it is typical of Azerbaijan AND northwestern-central IRAN” but you ignore that the surname only seems to be typical of the northwestern quarter of Iran and “Thai police said he is Iranian”.

"Well we will see if he has Azerbaijan connections..."

No evidence of that so far: his surname is IRANIAN,

the Thais sais he was IRANIAN,

the others involved were IRANIAN.

"...if Iran helps Thailand in the investigation..."

No evidence of that so far, they’ve had 10 days to find Rohani and thus far have shown no signs of trying.

"I put information about Mossad and Azerbaijan operations. Did that upset you ??"

No, why should it have?

ABNA 2/25/12

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Iran identifies Mossad operative in Azerbaijan

IRI intelligence officials have identified the operative of Mossad, Israel's spy agency, in republic of Azerbaijan, who has been involved in assassinating Iran’s nuclear scientists.

(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - The Islamic Republic of Iran has called for the extradition of Mossad’s Iranian spy, identified as Ja’far Khoshzaban, alias Javidan, who has been working under the auspices of Azeri security forces.

Deputy Head of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee Esmail Kowsari said on February 22 that they have obtained documents, which state Azeri officials have aided and abetted Mossad and CIA agents in their targeted killings of Iranian nuclear scientists, namely Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan.

So according to Hezbollah (Ahlul Bayt News Agency) 2 Iranian government officials claimed “they have obtained documents, which state Azeri officials have aided and abetted Mossad and CIA agents” but let me guess these documents have not been made public. Even IF true if doesn’t strengthen the theory the Mossad and/or MEK and/or Jundallah etc. etc. rather than Iranian intelligence were behind the attacks.

The rest of your post is just smoke, you blow more of that than an old coal plant.

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BANGKOK, Thailand (CNN) -

Thai police have arrested and detained another Iranian suspect in connection with a series of bombs that went off in Bangkok this month, a law enforcement official said.

Madani Seyed Mehrded, 33, was taken at a rental house, where authorities also confiscated a computer and a mobile phone, said the official, who was not authorized to talk to the media.

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http://www.local10.com/news/Thai-police-arrest-another-suspect-in-Bangkok-blasts/-/1717324/9133264/-/3hoy3l/-/

BANGKOK, Feb 25 -- The Iranian embassy in Bangkok has confirmed that two suspects who were in police custody for alleged involvement in the Sukhumvit area bomb blasts in February 14 are Iranian nationals, according to Thai Foreign Ministry spokesperson Thani Thongphakdi.

[...]

http://www.mcot.net/cfcustom/cache_page/335185.html

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This is a delicate situation going on with Iran right now. Now with Russia & China getting involved. Tell Israel there could be consequences if they atack Iran. We do not need to get in another conflict in the middle east.

If Russia or China gets into the mess that could lead down a road that NO ONE WANTS!!!!!

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Thai Police Question Another Iranian in Bomb Probe

By REUTERS

Published: February 27, 2012 at 2:37 AM ET

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Thai Immigration Police Commissioner Wiboon Bangthamai told Reuters three Iranians had been arrested in the Nana area of Bangkok at the weekend but two had been eliminated from the inquiry.

The other, Madani Seyed Mehrded, 33, remained in custody because he had overstayed his visa and was being questioned for links to the bombing.

According to Thai media, police told a weekend news conference they had discovered call logs showing Mehrded regularly communicating with two of the other suspects, Moradi and Khazaei.

Police also said Mehrded had been waiting in front of the building housing the Israeli embassy on the day of the blasts.

Mehrded has denied any connection with the bomb incident.

Thai government and police officials have given conflicting views on whether the Iranians were planning to attack Israeli diplomats.

However, the police forensic unit commander has said the bombs in Bangkok resembled one used in the attack on the Israeli diplomat's wife in New Delhi on February 13.

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http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/02/27/world/asia/27reuters-thailand-bombers.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=new+delhi+israeli+OR+israel&st=nyt

Azerbaijan arrests terror cell suspects with ties to Iran, Hezbollah

FEBRUARY 22, 2012 ⋅ 3:21 PM ⋅ POST A COMMENT

FILED UNDER AZERBAIJAN, HEZBOLLAH, IRAN, LEBANON, TERROR CELL, TERRORISM

Police in Azerbaijan have arrested an unspecified number of people linked to Iran and to Lebanese militant group Hezbollah suspected of planning attacks in the country, state television said Tuesday.

State broadcaster AzTV, quoting the National Security Ministry, said police had detained people linked to Iranian intelligence services and Hezbollah who intended to stage attacks on foreign citizens in the country.

The report said the suspects had gathered intelligence on targets and bought explosives, guns and ammunition, but gave no further details.

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Police in mainly Muslim but officially secular Azerbaijan last month also arrested two men with alleged links to Iranian intelligence on suspicion of plotting to kill prominent Israelis in Azerbaijan.

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http://www.yalibnan.com/2012/02/22/azerbaijan-arrests-terror-cell-suspects-with-ties-to-iran-hezbollah/

See also: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57382023/did-iran-plot-to-kill-israelis-in-azerbaijan/

EDITORIAL

Terror probe must carry on

• Published: 28/02/2012 at 02:16 AM

[…]

Two other suspects, a man and a woman, are believed to be in Iran, although the government in Teheran has so far not helped with their cases. The two men and a woman detained on Sunday have added a more sinister suspicion that "sleeper agents" may have been involved in a bomb plot.

[…]

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/281904/terror-probe-must-carry-on

Israeli paper says India solved bomb case but kept mum to help Iran

An Israeli newspaper exhibits undue faith in India's investigative agencies.

Jason Overdorf February 27, 2012 03:45

Indian journalists may not have much faith in the country's investigative agencies, but in the proganda war for regime change in Iran, at least some Israeli ones do.

According to the Indian Express, the Israeli daily Ha’aretz has quoted an unnamed Israeli security official as saying that India has already solved the mystery of the recent assassination attempt on an Israeli diplomat in New Delhi, but Indian officials are keeping quiet to avoid angering Iran.

Naturally, India's Ministry of External Affairs issued an official denial, saying that there was not a shred of truth in the article -- from the claim that India's notoriously slow investigative agencies had solved the case to the assertion that Indian sleuths had been sent to Tblisi and Bangkok to gather information.

A word to the wise: There are unnamed sources, and then there are unnamed sources. This guy doesn't exactly sound like Deep Throat, either. He's just planting a story, as Israel's official response implies:

'Asked about the report, Israeli Ambassador in New Delhi Alon Ushpiz said he was “not aware” of the details outlined in the article but expressed “full confidence” in the Indian agencies probing the incident,' writes the Express. '“We are grateful for their assistance and appreciative of our cooperation. We have no doubt that justice will be done,” he said.'

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/india/israel-iran-india-bomb

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CIA and Mossad penetrte Hezbollah (PAK OBSERVER 3/1/12)

Dr. Jassim Taqui

Islamabad—The leader of Hezbollah Hassan Nasrullah surprised the Middle East Watchers when he publicly admitted that the CIA penetrated his ranks in collaboration with Mossad. Nasrullah said that three persons were arrested and two of them confessed to being CIA agents. The interrogation of the third is in progress. Nasrullah refused to disclose the identities of the three CIA spies so as not to endanger their innocent families. However, he said that the arrest of the three spies was a victory for Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is thought to be impregnable. However, Lebanese newspapers started publishing articles on some mysterious links between Hezbollah and CIA.

The new revelation shows that the CIA is vastly activating its human intelligence. It is moving aggressively inside very dangerous organizations in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. Building a human intelligence network is a prerequisite for using the drones against the adversaries of the United States. Lebanon is very high on the CIA agenda.

According to Arabic daily Al Mustaqbal of Lebanon, the 3 Hezbollah spies were handed over to the Lebanese Justice Minister Shakib Quortbawi for investigation according to the Lebanese judicial system. They are considered as “ national security risk.”

Ya Libnan disclosed that the actual Hezbollah spies exceeds 10 and many of them were spying for the Israeli spy agency Mossad. However, As Safir Arabic daily said the spies were recruited by Israeli American spies. Al Diyar Arabic daily also touched the subject and said two Hezbollah spies were recruited by CIA while the third was recruited by Mossad.

Al-Akhbar Arabic daily said the CIA and Mossad penetration of Hezbollah is the biggest in the history of the resistance. It said that the episode shows that Nasrullah is not only waging a war with Israel but also with the US intelligence.

There is a serious twist to this episode. According to the London-based Arabic daily Asharq Alawsat, five high ranking Hezbollah officials are expected to be indicted by the United Nations special tribunal investigating the assassination of former prime minister of Lebanon Rafik al-Hariri.

Once the indictments are released, the identities of the accused will be kept secret for a short period in order to allow the Lebanese government to investigate and arrest them, according to the paper.

Initially, the Special Tribunal for Lebanon(STL) probing the murder of Rafik Al-Hariri focused on Syria. Lately, indications suggest that the main focus is now on Hezbollah.

Nasrullah disclosure that his party is penetrated by the CIA and Mossad is an implicit admission that the spies within Hezbollah could be responsible for the assassination of al-Hariri.

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link http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/01/17/Spy-arrests-expose-Israeli-penetration/UPI-45651326828414/

Spy arrests expose Israeli penetration

The arrest of a retired telecoms expert on suspicion of spying for Israel for 35 years has stunned Lebanon where 150 foreign agents have been arrested since 2009.

Published: Jan. 17, 2012 at 2:26 PM

BEIRUT, Lebanon, Jan. 17 (UPI) -- The recent detention of a retired telecoms expert on suspicion of spying for Israel's Mossad intelligence agency for 35 years has stunned Lebanon, where 150 foreign agents have been arrested since 2009.

This roundup included several army generals and colonels, politicians, businessmen as well as humbler folk, Christian and Muslim alike, exposing just how extensively the Mossad, and probably other Israeli spy services, allegedly penetrated every level of Lebanese society over the years.

Lebanese Justice Minister Ibrahim Najjar recently drew up a list of 150 cases to be filed as a complaint against Israel to the U.N. Security Council.

The findings, he told the London's Arabic daily Al-Hayat, "are hard to believe."

Judicial and security officials gave few details as the suspect, identified as Elias Younes, underwent interrogation. But Lebanon's official news agency reported he was a longtime employee of the state-run Ogero telecommunications company.

Al-Manar, the television network run by Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed Shiite movement that's the primary target of Israel's intensive espionage operation in Lebanon, alleged that Younes supplied Mossad with voluminous intelligence over the decades.

It said this involved technical data, including military and naval communications and movements, as well as detailed information on Lebanese officials, no doubt many of them Hezbollah members.

The network said Younes confessed he was recruited by Mossad in 1977. Many suspects, including several key telecommunications officials, were recruited in the 1980s and '90s.

That makes Younes the longest-serving of the alleged Israeli agents who have been rounded up over the last three years in a counterintelligence operation that's probably one of the most successful in modern history, certainly in the conflict-plagued Middle East where espionage is endemic.

"Wherever you dig in Lebanon you find a spy," political science Professor Hilal Khashan of the American University of Beirut was quoted as saying by The Media Line, a regional news portal.

He said the crackdown on Israeli espionage cells was largely due to a politically inspired contest between Military Intelligence, increasingly taken over by Hezbollah which controls the current Beirut government, and the intelligence branch of the Sunni-dominated Internal Security Forces.

There seems little doubt that Hezbollah is using the seemingly endless flow of broken spy cells as anti-Israel propaganda to make political capital to burnish its nationalist credentials.

The movement's many critics suggest this is intended to deflect the potential damage it faces over the indictment of four of its members, two of them senior security officials, for the 2005 assassination of Lebanese statesman Rafik Hariri in a massive bombing in Beirut.

The indictments were handed down by the United Nations-backed Special Tribunal for Lebanon, established to investigate the Hariri assassination and to put suspects on trial at a special court in The Hague.

Hezbollah, which is also backed by Syria, denies having anything to do with the assassination of Hariri, a key pro-Western Sunni leader and five-time prime minister. It refuses to hand over the suspects and has threatened to "cut off the hands" of anyone who tries to apprehend them.

Hezbollah, whose own intelligence apparatus is highly rated by its opponents, hasn't indicated how deeply Mossad may have penetrated its ranks.

None of its members have been arrested for spying, although last June Hezbollah admitted it had apprehended three it said worked for the CIA or Israel at a "low level."

Among the score of suspects who've been convicted of spying for Israel is former army Brig. Gen. Fayez Karam, a senior member of the Free Patriotic Movement, a Maronite Catholic party headed by former army commander Gen. Michel Aoun.

Aoun is a vital political ally of Hezbollah and presumably has some degree of access to the secretive Shiite group's inner leadership. Many Christians consider him a traitor for his controversial alliance.

Karam was commander of the army's counterespionage unit during the 1980s and has been close to Aoun for decades. Arrested in August 2010, he was the first prominent political figure to be held on espionage charges.

Karam faced a possible death sentence but last September was sentenced to three years' hard labor by a military tribunal. This was later cut to two years amid widespread suspicions of a political fix. Six other suspects have been condemned to death.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/01/17/Spy-arrests-expose-Israeli-penetration/UPI-45651326828414/#ixzz1nopwWxFQ

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;) Gee ,how to get Iranian passport ????????????????????????????????????? ;)

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Le Figaro: Israeli Mossad training Iranian exiles in Kurdistan

by Joseph Fitsanakis

Intelnews.org

February 2, 2012

http://www.middleeastclarity.com/4106/le-figaro-israeli-mossad-training-iranian-exiles

Citing a "security source in Baghdad," France's leading newspaper, Le Figaro, is claiming that Israeli Mossad agents are recruiting and training Iranian dissidents in clandestine bases located in Iraq's Kudish region. Supposedly, many of these "assets" are members of Iran's Kurdish minority and opposed to the Iranian regime, and are allegedly being trained by the Mossad in spy-craft and sabotage.

According to the newspaper, the "Baghdad source" said that part of Israel's sabotage program against sensitive Iranian nuclear facilities, which includes targeted assassinations of Iranian nuclear experts, is directed out of the autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan, "where [Mossad] agents have stepped up their penetration". The article also implies that the alleged Mossad activities are an "open secret in Iraqi Kurdistan."

There is a long history of alleged Israeli intelligence activities in Kurdistan including various reports over the years of Israeli operatives providing military training to Kurdish militia members.

Read more: http://intelnews.org/2012/01/11/01-906/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+intelNewsOrg+%28intelNews.org%29

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CIA and Mossad penetrte Hezbollah (PAK OBSERVER 3/1/12)

Dr. Jassim Taqui

Islamabad—The leader of Hezbollah Hassan Nasrullah surprised the Middle East Watchers when he publicly admitted that the CIA penetrated his ranks in collaboration with Mossad. Nasrullah said that three persons were arrested and two of them confessed to being CIA agents. The interrogation of the third is in progress. Nasrullah refused to disclose the identities of the three CIA spies so as not to endanger their innocent families. However, he said that the arrest of the three spies was a victory for Hezbollah.

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How exactly is supposed CIA/Mossad penetration of Hezbollah relevant to who carried out the embassy attacks? The author’s claim that “Nasrullah disclosure that his party is penetrated by the CIA and Mossad is an implicit admission that the spies within Hezbollah could be responsible for the assassination of al-Hariri”, makes little sense. Such an important decision would had to have been authorized by the group top commanders, I’ve yet to see any evidence any of the supposed spies held leadership positions. Penetration normally connotes having people in place that provide information not actually run an organization. According to your 2nd article Hezbollah said they were "low level." Dr. Taqui appears to be a self-styled ‘security analyst’ who really is a chemist and/or linguist and/or Islamic scholar who run a software company. What's your theory now, that it was the Quds Force but this group was penetrated by the Mossad who thus are responsible?

And despite your insinuation the Mossad might have gotten Iranian passports through Kurdish or other terrorist groups, the Iranian government confirmed that the 3 men filmed escaping the exploding safehouse were Iranians using authentic passports and has not denied that the other 4 suspects are Iranian, nor that two of them returned to Iran. Nor have they or anyone else indicated any of them belong to any terrorist groups and/or are members or ethnic minorities.

So riddle me this. It’s been 14 days since the name, return date and photo of one of the suspects who returned appeared in press accounts and 10 days the same happened with the other. But so far we’ve seen no evidence the Iranian government was trying to find them.as well. What explanation can there be for this other than the operation WAS government approved?

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COLBY

What's your theory now, that it was the Quds Force but this group was penetrated by the Mossad who thus are responsible?

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COLBY

What explanation can there be for this other than the operation WAS government approved?

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ANSWER /+/ embarrassment,embarrassment,embarrassment.

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COLBY Penetration normally connotes having people in place that provide information not actually run an organization. According to your 2nd article Hezbollah said they were "low level

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ANSWER /+/ You said normally,not necessarily. We agree. Second penetration of lower level and person under penetrator so low level

that they could only do botched job (THAI other BOMBINGS ??). Compartmentalization

and need to know could prevent the 'higher" intell levels to know. The penetrator would have almost unlimited funding.

No need to get 'upper' intel approval for operational funds.

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For me, Iran would have attacked in OTHER CONTRIES,OTHER COUNTRIES !! Thanks sg

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this just in ....BLAME IRAN ?????????

FROM Whatreallyhappened

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Explosions Destroy Saudi Oil Pipeline, Sends Oil Prices Soaring

Tags: CURRENT EVENTSMIDDLE EASTSAUDI ARABIASCIENCE/HEALTH/CLIMATE/NATUREVIDEO

Crude oil hits record highs following massive Saudi Arabia oil pipeline explosions and following fires. (Video, Photo, Maps, and Live video feed)

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Attackers blow up gas pipeline in Egypt's Sinai

Tags: AFRICACOVER-UP/DECEPTIONS/PROPAGANDACURRENT EVENTSECONOMYEGYPT

It's an epidemic! Cui bono?

EL-ARISH, Egypt (AP) — An Egyptian security official says attackers have set off explosives along a gas pipeline in the country's Sinai peninsula, halting exports to neighboring Israel and Jordan.

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COLBY

What's your theory now, that it was the Quds Force but this group was penetrated by the Mossad who thus are responsible?

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COLBY

What explanation can there be for this other than the operation WAS government approved?

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ANSWER /+/ embarrassment,embarrassment,embarrassment.

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Dodge and dance, non-answer.

COLBY Penetration normally connotes having people in place that provide information not actually run an organization. According to your 2nd article Hezbollah said they were "low level

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ANSWER /+/ You said normally,not necessarily. We agree. Second penetration of lower level and person under penetrator so low level

that they could only do botched job (THAI other BOMBINGS ??). Compartmentalization

and need to know could prevent the 'higher" intell levels to know. The penetrator would have almost unlimited funding.

No need to get 'upper' intel approval for operational funds.

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You still haven’t spelled out a coherent explanation of who you think was responsible. Was it (Mossad penetrated) Hezbollah? A (Mossad penetrated)rouge faction of Iranian intel? Mek, Mossad, Jundallah, Kurd sepratists? And it's hard to imagine 'low level' members of a group roping them into such a project no matter how much money they had.

For me, Iran would have attacked in OTHER CONTRIES,OTHER COUNTRIES !! Thanks sg

WHICH CONTRIES,WHICH COUNTRIES !!? See post #20:

There could be a number of reasons for this:

1] it provides plausible deniability

2] presumably it would be easier for Iranians to go about their business relatively unobserved in such countries.

Whatever the reasons the fact that the bombers were Iranians who returned to Iran (or tried to) and the government there has not explain this indicates the Iranian government was responsible.

The Lavon Affair invalidates the notion one country wouldn’t try to pull off such an operation against an ally.

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this just in ....BLAME IRAN ?????????

FROM Whatreallyhappened

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Explosions Destroy Saudi Oil Pipeline, Sends Oil Prices Soaring

Tags: CURRENT EVENTSMIDDLE EASTSAUDI ARABIASCIENCE/HEALTH/CLIMATE/NATUREVIDEO

Crude oil hits record highs following massive Saudi Arabia oil pipeline explosions and following fires. (Video, Photo, Maps, and Live video feed)

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More dodge dance and distraction, who could have done this? Multiple suspects, sorta like an Agatha Christie mystery, Shia militants, Sunni militants, rival oil exporters etc. don’t see how this would benefit Israel/the US/Zionists/Neo-Cons etc. In any case who cares? It has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

And why am I NOT surprised to see you linking to Holocaust and science denying WRH?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/holofour.php?q=holofour.php

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bang.php

Attackers blow up gas pipeline in Egypt's Sinai

Tags: AFRICACOVER-UP/DECEPTIONS/PROPAGANDACURRENT EVENTSECONOMYEGYPT

It's an epidemic! Cui bono?

EL-ARISH, Egypt (AP) — An Egyptian security official says attackers have set off explosives along a gas pipeline in the country's Sinai peninsula, halting exports to neighboring Israel and Jordan.

Even More dodge dance and distraction, I don’t see anyone blaming Iran for this. Cui bono? Certainly not anyone from the Egyptian company nor Israel or Jordan. The most likely suspects are Egyptian nationalists/Islamists opposed to gas sales to Israel at below market value prices. Could also be Israelis upset that the price will supposedly go up or perhaps Jordanians that the price already went up for them but not the Israelis or perhaps Bedouins who feel ignored by the government In any case who cares? It has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You also dodged the question below, see if you can answer withOUT editing out the most relevant parts:

…the Iranian government confirmed that the 3 men filmed escaping the exploding safehouse were Iranians using authentic passports and has not denied that the other 4 suspects are Iranian, nor that two of them returned to Iran. Nor have they or anyone else indicated any of them belong to any terrorist groups and/or are members or ethnic minorities.

So riddle me this. It’s been 14 days since the name, return date and photo of one of the suspects who returned appeared in press accounts and 10 days the same happened with the other. But so far we’ve seen no evidence the Iranian government was trying to find them.as well. What explanation can there be for this other than the operation WAS government approved?

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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/02/201222985228671645.html

Gareth Porter

Dr Gareth Porter is an investigative journalist and historian specialising in US national security policy.

Who was behind the Delhi bombing?

The bombing of an Israeli diplomat's car in India isn't consistent with Iranian or Hezbollah involvement.

Last Modified: 02 Mar 2012 17:32

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The car was damaged mainly not by the bomb's explosion, but by the resulting slow-burning fire [Reuters]

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Washington, DC - The magnet bomb that exploded on an Israeli Embassy diplomat's car in Delhi on February 13 seemed on the surface to be consistent with an Iranian-sponsored action.

It was carried out with same method by which Israel's Iranian proxy, the Mujahedin-e Khalq, had assassinated an Iranian scientist in mid-January. It occurred on the anniversary of the 2008 assassination of Hezbollah operations chief Imad Mugniyeh, which Hezbollah had vowed to avenge. And it happened at the same time as what appeared to be attempted bombings in Bangkok and Tbilisi.

But a review of the evidence uncovered thus far makes the link to Iran begin to look very dubious. Instead, it points to the distinct possibility that the Israelis planned a carefully limited bomb attack that was not intended to cause serious injury to Israeli diplomatic personnel, but that would advance the larger Israeli narrative on the need to punish Iran.

The evidence surrounding that bomb itself indicates a series of decisions by the terrorist team that is fundamentally inconsistent with an Iranian-Hezbollah revenge bombing. The preliminary forensic analysis of the bomb itself had estimated it to be 250-300 grams of explosives, but sources in the investigation later reduced the estimate to 200-250 grams. The 250-gram bomb that exploded near the Delhi High Court in May 2011 did not even damage the car under which it had been placed and was characterised by Police Commissioner B K Gupta as a "low-intensity and mild blast".

Burning questions

The main damage to the Israeli diplomat's car was not from the explosion but from the fire, which burned so slowly that the occupants suffered no burns.

If the bomb had been filled with shrapnel of iron filings, nails or glass, or if it had been attached underneath the fuel tank or on the door next to the passenger, that bomb would have seriously injured or killed the passenger, Tal Yehoshua-Koren, the wife of the Israeli Defense Attaché. But Delhi police were able to determine that the bomb contained no such potentially deadly shrapnel. And an examination of the videos and photos of the car after the bombing revealed that the bomb had been attached instead to the rear of the vehicle, where it would have the least impact on the occupants.

Indian investigators obtained a fourth piece of evidence bearing on the intentions of the planners from their interview with Yehoshua-Koren. She told them the bomb did not go off for 30 to 40 seconds after she felt a bump from the rear of the car and saw the motorcyclist go past her window. Indian investigators had assumed that the bomb had operated on a five- or 10-second delay, like other magnet bombs with which they were familiar - only enough time for the motorcyclist to get far enough away from the blast.

Yehoshua-Koren did not get out of the car before the bomb went off, and suffered what the Israeli Defense Ministry called "moderate" wounds - evidently from metal fragments from the rear hatch. She was nevertheless able to exit the car and get to the Israeli Embassy without any assistance.

Israeli commentary on the bombing suggested that the Iranian-sponsored terrorist team had simply proven to be ineffective in carrying out the bombing. But the combination of these four distinct indicators strongly suggests that the operation was planned so that the passenger in the car would not be injured.

Unclear patterns

Israel claimed that the evidence links the Delhi bombing to other alleged Iranian-Hezbollah plots in Tbilisi and Bangkok. Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Yaalon declared, "It is the same pattern, the same bomb, the same lab, the same factory".

Bomb suspects charged in Thailand

But it turns out that there was no similarity whatsoever among the bombs found in the three capitals. The one in Tbilisi was described as a grenade in a plastic bag taped to the bottom of the car, which hardly suggests a serious terror plot. Delhi police discovered that the two magnet bombs found in the house in Bangkok, where an accidental explosion had occurred, contained the much more powerful C-4 explosive as well as shrapnel - both of which were absent from the Delhi bomb. And, even more interesting, the Bangkok magnet bombs timed for only a five-second delay.

That information led investigators in Delhi to conclude that the operations in Delhi and Bangkok were "unrelated".

Despite the fact that a group of Iranian passport-holders were clearly involved with highly lethal bombs in Bangkok, there is good reason to doubt that they were working for Iran's IRGC or Hezbollah. They spent their first three days in the country with Thai prostitutes at Pattaya. That profile suggests Iranian mercenaries, like the former kickboxer hired by Mossad to assassinate Iranian scientist Massoud Ali Mohammadi in January 2010, rather than Iranian or Hezbollah operatives.

India's importance

In the larger context, it is very difficult to believe that Iran would have chosen New Delhi as the location for revenge against Israel, given the importance of India as a buyer of Iranian oil and India's delicately balanced political-diplomatic position in the larger conflict.

India had just replaced China as Iran's single biggest crude oil customer, having increased its imports to roughly 550,000 barrels a day in January, which compensated for a drop in sales to China. And the government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had resisted pressure from the United States and Europe to reduce its purchases from Iran, even working with Iran to find ways to get around the planned sanctions against Iran's National Bank. India's Commerce Ministry was planning a large business delegation to Iran to discuss increased trade.

India had thus taken on the role of potential "spoiler" in the Western sanctions strategy against Iran. This central geopolitical reality prompted New Delhi's "Economic Times" to ask, "Why would Iran go and poke its finger in the eye of its best customer, especially knowing full well that Israel will use even the flimsiest excuse to put the blame on it?"

Indeed, it was Israel, not Iran that stood to gain politically from the terrorist car bomb in Delhi. Israel was well aware that a terrorist bombing in Delhi that could be blamed on Tehran was a potential lever to change India's policy toward Iran. As an Israeli official told the Wall Street Journal, if India were to adopt Netanyahu's position that Iran was responsible for the bombing, it would take the India-Iran relationship to "a whole different level".

Nearly two weeks before the bombing, Israel acted to ensure that Indians would assume that a terrorist attack in Delhi on that date had been carried out by Iran. A letter to the Delhi police on February 1 signed by the Israeli Deputy Chief of Mission in Delhi and the First Secretary responsible for security expressed concern that Iran and Hezbollah would take revenge on the anniversary of the Mugniyeh assassination by carrying out terrorist actions against Israelis. It also referred to the possibility of Iranian revenge for the assassination of the Iranian nuclear scientist Mustafa Ahmadi Roshan on January 11. Although the letter did not specify that an attack might take place in Delhi, Mossad chief Tamir Pardo led a delegation of intelligence officials on a visit to Delhi around the same time and turned over a list of 50 Iranian nationals with the request that they be kept under surveillance.

The Israeli letter referred to an alleged Hezbollah terror plot against Israelis that had been broken up in Bangkok in January. But the idea of a Hezbollah plan to kill Israelis in Thailand had come only from Israeli intelligence - not from any local sources. The Thai police detained Hussein Atris, a Swedish-Lebanese, in January only because Israeli intelligence officials had told them they "suspected" that he and two other Lebanese, whom they claimed were linked to Hezbollah, might carry out terrorist attacks at tourist sites popular with Israelis.

Atris admitted to owning large supplies of urea fertiliser and ammonium nitrate, which are ingredients in bombs, but Thai investigators concluded that they were not connected to any terror plot in Thailand, because of the absence of any other bomb components. The head of Thailand's National Security Council, General Wichean Potephosree, a former chief of police, expressed doubt that Atris was a terrorist, as Israel had claimed.

After the Bangkok explosion, the Israelis renewed the claim of an Iran-Hezbollah terror threat in Bangkok, alleging that the bombs found in in all three capitals in mid-February were "exactly the same kind of devices". But we now know that was not the case.

We may never be able to establish with certainty what happened in Delhi, Bangkok and Tbilisi earlier this month, but the evidence that has come to light thus far doesn't support the widely accepted notion that Iran and Hezbollah were behind it. That evidence is consistent, however, with a clever Israeli "false flag" car bombing operation that would not injure the passenger but would serve its broader strategic interests: dividing India from Iran and pushing US public opinion further towards support for war against Iran.

Gareth Porter is an investigative historian journalist on US national security policy with a PhD in South-east Asian studies from Cornell University. He has taught international studies at City College of New York and American University and has written several books on Vietnam, including Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War (University of California Press, 2005). He has also written on war and diplomacy in Cambodia, Korea and the Philippines.

The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy.

Source: Al Jazeera

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MOSSADIES seek them here, MOSSADIES seek them there

Those MOSSADIES seek them everywhere!

Are they in heaven? Or are they in hell?

Those dammed Elusive Iran-ernels ?"

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Bizarre Dr. Porter seemingly would have us believe it was an incredible coincidence the similar New Dehli and Tbilisi attacks happened the same day and the Bangkok fiasco on the next. He cited no sources for his claims and AFAIK he is an expert on SE Asia but not on the Middle East let alone terrorism.

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Bizarre Dr. Porter seemingly would have us believe it was an incredible coincidence the similar New Dehli and Tbilisi attacks happened the same day and the Bangkok fiasco on the next. He cited no sources for his claims and AFAIK he is an expert on SE Asia but not on the Middle East let alone terrorism.

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Colby a better Middle East expert ??

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BACK to ALEX JONES see video. Yup, Colby at start of video.

link http://www.infowars.com/new-world-order-blueprint-of-madmen-full-film/

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Bizarre Dr. Porter seemingly would have us believe it was an incredible coincidence the similar New Dehli and Tbilisi attacks happened the same day and the Bangkok fiasco on the next. He cited no sources for his claims and AFAIK he is an expert on SE Asia but not on the Middle East let alone terrorism.

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Although he has recently started writing about central Asia for al-Jazeera, like me he seems to do his research online, he demonstrable experience and expertise is in Indochina. Nor have found any evidence of his experience or expertise related to terrorism or intelligence matters. So I’d say yes we relative equals on this topic. But facts trump supposed expertise. See my debunking of Porter below.

BACK to ALEX JONES see video. Yup, Colby at start of video.

link http://www.infowars....dmen-full-film/

http://www.youtube.c...v=yY6ZFYD9sJo#!

Let’s see a paranoid loon terrified of hidden forces that only he perceives who thinks he privy to secret knowledge known to few. Sounds like a perfect description of Jones and his followers and fits you much better than me.

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