Bernie Laverick Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 In her FBI interview, Kittrell clearly indicated that the man she suspected might not be Oswald in fact identified himself as him. From the report of her interview: From p. 8: "She has concluded that the person she saw the last time wasn't really Oswald but perhaps someone he sent in his place in order to maintain his unemployment claim" From p. 9: "She said that although she suspected the fellow might no have been Oswald at the time, she wasn't sure and she didn't want to call him a L-I-A-R and create a scene without being sure." (I spelled "L-I-A-R" with hyphens so the forum software won't censor it.) Did you read the rambling accusatory letter she wrote to Robert Kennedy? She's bonkers and you know it! BONKERS ..bonkers is anyone making a buck over the family pain of the Oswald family. THAT PERSON IS IMORAL. How does that go ??? CASE CLOSED. see https://bernielaverick.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/bernie-laverick-2/ gaal +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/lee-harveys-legacy/ link info below " Rachel was quiet for a moment. "I think Lee was this twenty-four-year-old guy, this youngster, who got himself in over his head. Lee was intelligent, but he was no genius. I don’t know who else was involved, but clearly it was too big of a deal for one twenty-four-year-old kid to do by himself. For example, right before the shooting someone asked my mother to take a picture of Lee holding a rifle, and then right after the shooting, the picture is confiscated, and everyone says, ‘Look, there’s the gun, there’s the guy who did it, case closed.’ And apparently there were police recordings of someone saying Jack Ruby was planning to kill Lee, and sure enough, the next day Jack Ruby makes his way through all the police and kills Lee live on national TV. I mean, think about it. There are just too many loose ends for it all to be dumped on my father. It was just too big of a deal. Until I was twenty-three, I didn’t even know there were alternative theories. I’ve only read a couple of books about it. I’m sorry for my father’s pain, but basically I just want it to be over, one way or another, especially by the time I have kids. - " See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/lee-harveys-legacy/#sthash.XXMSW8xV.dpuf You are by far the strangest little man I have ever known. Please explain how I am making a buck off "the family pain of the Oswald family". What because I said I was writing a play about the assassination? In your tiny little God-fearing world no doubt writing plays or songs is seen as being ungodly. I notice you'd rather concentrate on some personal research to see what I do in my spare time rather than address the above issues. I think it is because you simply don't have enough intelligence. is that all you can throw at me? On my word press pageI said I wanted to write a play about JFK? That's it? Bet that was a bit disappointing. I'd return the favour and do some research on you but tin foil hat wearers don't leave the house and are incapable of creative thought. Shows you don't have an answer to all the recent questions I've raised anyway. Well done, Gaal's put his foot in it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Laverick Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Let's review this one more time. On May 15, 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations chief counsel Robert Blakey wrote to the Social Security Administration requesting "access to all files and documents concerning or referring to Lee Harvey Oswald and Marina Oswald." On July 28, Social Security Administration associate commissioner Robert P. Bynum formally responded. In a three-page cover letter to Ms. Jackie Hess, an HSCA employee, Bynum cited 36 different documents that were being forwarded from the Social Security Administration to the HSCA. Item 23 in the letter from the Social Security Administration to the HSCA states: "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report re employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps." Why didn't the Social Security Administration include any of Oswald's income from his first four employers in his lifetime earnings report? And why on earth was the Warren Report offered as an explanation? The answer isn't all that complicated. It's right here: http://harveyandlee.net/Unraveling/Unravels.htm Jim, Have you,or Armstrong or any one else looked 42 USC 405 © (2) which was sited by Bynum as to why certain records were not provided? I mean, the letter states quite clearly "... redisclosure is prohibited" under this provision. Even with this in front of you, you still prefer to make up evidence-free nefarious reasons. If this theory was based on honest scholarship, a specialist lawyer would sought for an opinion on the use of 44 USC 405 © (2) in these circumstances. But again - none of you will do that for fear of of not receiving the answer you want, The information you cite is clearly shown at the bottom of the following page from my website: http://harveyandlee.net/Unraveling/Unravels.htm Although Mr. Bynum included LHO employment information from Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, William B. Reily, Leslie Welding and the Texas School Book Depository, none is offered from “Oswald's” pre-Marine service employers. Even more significantly, none of “Oswald's” pre-Marine income is listed on his lifetime earnings report. Completely missing is the income from Dolly Shoe, Tujagues, J.R. Michels, and Pfisterer Dental Lab. You have tried a number of explanations for this earlier in this thread, and all have been shot down. No doubt we'll hear more now. That is correct. I am offering possible explanations. You are offering blind faith that it was somehow nefarious. Yes, they included all those of other jobs. That's the whole point. They ones they left out were left out because they fell under the sited legislation. The others did not. Again - you lot should be asking a legal expert about why the site was used - especially since you don't think the SSA will give an honest answer. If you are resistant to getting an independent expert opinion, we all know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. Please explain how I am making a buck off "the family pain of the Oswald family". What because I said I was writing a play about the assassination? What evidence does he have for this smear? // LAVERICK ################################################################ ASSASSINATION ?? NO MARINA NOT ASSASSINATION . gaal per your site >>> https://bernielaverick.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/bernie-laverick-2/ "When Bernie isn’t acting or singing with The Black Pearls he is working on his current project, a musical play based on the life of Marina Oswald, the widow of the alleged JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rachel (Oswald) " but basically I just want it to be over, one way or another, especially by the time I have kids. - " See more at: http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/lee-harveys-legacy/#sthash.XXMSW8xV.dpuf Edited August 27, 2015 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Bernie, you should know by now, once they utter it, it becomes true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Bernie, you should know by now, once they utter it, it becomes true. Faith-based "belief" researchers such as you will say just about anything they want as long as they don't have to worry about offering any proof for it. You can't add to 200 and can't grasp standard deviation and height... 54" ? You still have not posted an image between the ZOO image and the Tooth image... Thought you were the OSWALD EXPERT? aint' you writing a book about his life? You have no photos of the boy between Aug 1953 and the fall of 1954... and you need us to help you out? Snowball's chance in hell mate.... You're the one with all the answers yet remain the only one continually asking, asking asking... No wonder no one wants to discuss your work... Nothing you've posted to date proves anything but your inability to read reports or make logical connections... It's as if you have your own little world where BELIEFS are allowed to be FACTS as long as you keep the Faith and don't ask too many questions... Let's see, so far you've gotten wrong just about everything you possibly can get wrong: father/uncle NYC school records Beauregard JHS records You're clueless about 3830 W. 6th Clueless about 2220 Thomas Clueless about 120 Telemachas Can't understand the Dolly shoe time period Have the first thought about SS records and how they work. (anyone can get their SS history, it includes ever instance when a SS# was used to pay an employee. That everything prior to the USMC is dropped off the SS recap leaves you with that wonderful deer in the headlight expression) Completely FUBAR Palmer and Pfisterer's Are at a loss related to Kudlaty and Stripling Gorsky eludes you Ping Tung, Blakey and the DoD you couldn't even reply to other than that same confused look The Sept photos of LEE with a rifle and for a Passport not looking anything like Harvey only 10 days later Lee in New Orleans in Feb 1962 while Harvey is in Minsk 544 Camp Tannenbaum & Lake Ponchartrain http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17886 ... And finally for the equally disingenuous BL who simply cannot figure out how to use Google Images, Books, News or any other research tool.... You think this is the Same Lee Oswald living with his wife and child at 4905/7 Magazine or in Irving? Who drove Ruby's car to get fixed. Who was seen in the audience at Ruby's club numerous times - once by a man who's act it is to remember names, words, objects, etc... a MEMORY EXPERT.... Yup.. gotta wonder why a homosexual who may be spying on the Mafia for the FBI/CIA/??? and/or working for them via Ruby would lay low in the SE portion of the USA during the 60's and 70's. Notice this "second-hand" report comes from the same T-1 as the next report. Standing alone it's only so-so... until you add in what happened while Harvey is asleep in Irving... Why would Ruby be renting Marina's husband an apartment in Dallas in Sept... Ruby was in #207 at 223 Ewing while the Professor was in 206. In #208 for a time were two strippers followed up by two Dallas Police officers Sexaur and Streback. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405#relPageId=639&tab=page Just keep digging GP... pretty soon I bet even you will start believing your own words... but I doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 You think this is the Same Lee Oswald living with his wife and child at 4905/7 Magazine or in Irving? Who drove Ruby's car to get fixed. Who was seen in the audience at Ruby's club numerous times - once by a man who's act it is to remember names, words, objects, etc... a MEMORY EXPERT.... Yup.. gotta wonder why a homosexual who may be spying on the Mafia for the FBI/CIA/??? and/or working for them via Ruby would lay low in the SE portion of the USA during the 60's and 70's. Notice this "second-hand" report comes from the same T-1 as the next report. Standing alone it's only so-so... until you add in what happened while Harvey is asleep in Irving... Why would Ruby be renting Marina's husband an apartment in Dallas in Sept... Ruby was in #207 at 223 Ewing while the Professor was in 206. In #208 for a time were two strippers followed up by two Dallas Police officers Sexaur and Streback. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405#relPageId=639&tab=page Just keep digging GP... pretty soon I bet even you will start believing your own words... but I doubt it I'm going to ignore your "you're wrong because I say so" blather and cut to the heart of where you go wrong. Firstly, the T1 in the first document is not the same person with that designation in the second document. Those designations are repeated around the country. Do you really believe TI was simultaneously in Houston, Dallas, NO and NYC among other places? Talk about doppelgangers. Secondly, the T1 in the first document is simply mistaken. It was Senator who lived next door to Jack before moving in with him. Thirdly. I know who T1 was in that second T1 document and will be attempting to get him to go on the record in my next book. It was not Oswald at those parties. it was Crafard. That last document is years old 3rd or 4th hand hearsay, the content of which is literally unbelievable. In ANY scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Smear? Apologize? By your own admission: "...What because I said I was writing a play about the assassination?" DUH, a non-profit playwright? That's the ticket... Just a *spec* only project, eh? Not much experience or success in the craft yet, eh Bern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Smear? Apologize? By your own admission: "...What because I said I was writing a play about the assassination?" DUH, a non-profit playwright? That's the ticket... Just a *spec* only project, eh? Not much experience or success in the craft yet, eh Bern? WTF has that got to with Gaal raising this as an attempted smear and diversion? Exactly what is it you're getting at anyway? That it would only be a smear if if the play was showing on Broadway? Or are you attempting your own smear by trying to underline that the play appears not have gone anywhere? If you want to defend this pile of excrement known as H & L, then do so. Rooting for your team from the sidelines only shows us you have pom poms where other similar shaped objects should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Laverick Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Bernie, you should know by now, once they utter it, it becomes true. Utter scumbag! What a low-life lying piece of xxxx! What is about people who 'follow the lord' that they always turn out to be psychos, serial killers, paedophiles or just plain evil and nasty? They can't answer these points so it's personal abuse time. Ask them a question they can't answer and they scurry to google to try and find anything they can to divert from their own inane babbling stupidity. The idea that Oswald acted alone is just too ridiculous to entertain and those protecting this cover up know it. They needed something a bit more sexy, and bit more anti NWO, in order to send inquisitive minds on a wild goose chase. Jim and David are the geese. Gaal is their droppings! Can someone please clear him away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 What is about people who 'follow the lord' that they always turn out to be psychos, serial killers, paedophiles or just plain evil and nasty? I've wondered that myself. Adelaide is the known as the City of Churches... and I don't think it's any coincidence that it is also by far, the worst place in Australia for serial killers and sex predators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Laverick Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I hope Gaal has the decency to apologise for the smear he is trying to fool members with. He accused me of making a buck of the Oswald family's pain. What evidence does he have for this smear? Smear? Apologize? By your own admission: "...What because I said I was writing a play about the assassination?" DUH, a non-profit playwright? That's the ticket... Just a *spec* only project, eh? Not much experience or success in the craft yet, eh Bern? Yes that's right clever twat it was for an amateur production!! Like the three other plays I've had done in this town. They cost money to put on, idiot! And correct again I have had NO success because I do it for the love of doing it. It's amateur stuff. You know...FUN? Challenge? Social life? Making new friends? Creative outlet. What am I thinking, like any of you mindless morons actually have a life! So, the H&L position is this. If you ever write a song a poem or a play about Marina Oswald you are morally bankrupt. Yet it's perfectly ok to tell blatant lies about her husband and embroil her whole family in what is nothing more than a vicious fantasy tearing their family apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Parker Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 So, the H&L position is this. If you ever write a song a poem or a play about Marina Oswald you are morally bankrupt. Yet it's perfectly ok to tell blatant lies about her husband and embroil her whole family in what is nothing more than a vicious fantasy tearing their family apart? Nailed. Perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Amazing how those who have never read the book and feel it it so far beneath them to even LOOK in that direction can tell the rest of us its meaning, position, intent and anything else you need to know except for a well supported rebuttal beyond HAVE FAITH and BELIEVE... I see the trifecta is waiting and drooling over their next pithy response. Tell us more about what we think, what we know, what the book says, what the evidence says since you have such a commanding grasp of the info... Even a broken clock gets it right more often in a day than you three... My God Bernie... how much more dim can you present yourself as? "clever twat"? You come here and do what you do to make friends? You got the wrong forum dude, ROKC is just down the road, you can tell you're there when you smell that smell and see the oil running down the street... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) [...] snipped by T. Graves Notice this "second-hand" report comes from the same T-1 as the next report. Standing alone it's only so-so... [ David Josephs speaking. Emphasis added by T. Graves ] [...] Why would Ruby be renting Marina's husband an apartment in Dallas in Sept... Ruby was in #207 at 223 Ewing while the Professor was in 206. In #208 for a time were two strippers followed up by two Dallas Police officers Sexaur and Streback. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405#relPageId=639&tab=page [-- David Josephs] [...] (End of Josephs' post) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Greg's reply: I'm going to ignore your "you're wrong because I say so" blather and cut to the heart of where you go wrong. Firstly, the T1 in the first document is not the same person with that designation in the second document. Those designations are repeated around the country. Do you really believe TI was simultaneously in Houston, Dallas, NO and NYC among other places? Talk about doppelgangers. Secondly, the T1 in the first document is simply mistaken. It was Senator who lived next door to Jack before moving in with him. Thirdly. I know who T1 was in that second T1 document and will be attempting to get him to go on the record in my next book. It was not Oswald at those parties. it was Crafard. That last document is years old 3rd or 4th hand hearsay, the content of which is literally unbelievable. In ANY scenario. [emphasis added by T. Graves] Excellent stuff, Greg. Thanks, --Tommy Edited August 27, 2015 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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