Steven Gaal Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) "2009: Obama appoints a Brotherhood-tied Islamist — Rashad Hussain — as U.S. envoy to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, which strongly supports the Brotherhood" Got evidence Hussain or the OIC are tied to "the Brotherhood"? // end Colby #################### YUP I DO , CASE CLOSED ############################################# Muslim Brotherhood Convention Comes to Chicago November 14, 2012 By Ryan Mauro Comments (31) For the second time in two months, stars of the Islamist movement in America will come together in the Chicago area, parading as the moderate Muslims we need to guide us. This time, it’s the 11thannual convention of the Muslim American Society and the Islamic Circle of North America on December 21-25. Both the Muslim American Society (MAS) and the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) are in a 1991 internal Muslim Brotherhood list of “our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” Imprisoned Brotherhood operative Abdurrahman Alamoudi testified that “everyone knows that MAS is Muslim Brotherhood.” ICNA is closely linked to a Pakistani Islamist group called Jamaat-e-Islami and its 2010 handbook laid out a five-step strategy that culminates in a “united Islamic state, governed by an elected khalifah in accordance with the laws of shari’ah (Islamic law).” A former president and secretary-general of ICNA, Ashrafuzzaman Khan, is accused of committing war crimes by Bangladesh’s International Crimes Tribunal. The theme of the event is, “Toward a Renaissance: Believe, Act & Engage.” The “Arab Spring associated with the Islamic Awakening in many parts of the Muslim world” is given as an example of this “renaissance.” By “renaissance,” MAS-ICNA means the Islamist ideology. That is the message an expected audience of 9,500 will hear. The roster of speakers is filled with Islamists, one of which is even called an Islamist in his biography on the convention website. The page for Sheikh Abdelfattah Mourou, a founder of the Tunisian political party Al-Nahda, says he “started his Islamist activities in the 1960s.” He worked alongside Rashid al-Ghannouchi, another one of the party’s founders, who has a very extreme past but is still consistently described as a “moderate” in the Western media. One major speaker is Tariq Ramadan, who was banned from entering the U.S. in 2004 because of a donation he made to a Hamas front. The ban was lifted in 2010 on orders from Secretary of State Clinton. He is the grandson of Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood and the son of Said Ramadan, who was a major Brotherhood leader in Europe. Nihad Awad is the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history. The federal government says CAIR is a creation of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee. Awad publicly supported Hamas as far back as 1994 and referred to the terrorist group and Hezbollah as “liberation movements” in an Arabic interview with Al-Jazeera in 2004. Siraj Wahhaj is a favorite of the various Brotherhood affiliates and was listed as an “unindicted person who may be alleged as co-conspirators” in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He preaches that the U.S. should become an Islamic State. “If only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate. If we were united and strong, we’d elect our own emir and give allegiance to him. Take my word, if eight million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us,” he said. Wahhaj has said that “America is the most wicked government on the face of the planet Earth” and that the U.S. is a “garbage can” that he prays “crumbles.” The book Muslim Mafia quotes Wahhaj preaching violence. “We don’t need to arm the people with 9mms and Uzis. You need to arm them with righteousness first. And once you arm them with righteousness first, then you can arm them,” he said, as well as “I will never tell people, ‘Don’t be violent.’ That’s not the Islamic way.” Imam Zaid Shakir told the New York Times in 2006 that he hopes to see the U.S. nonviolently become an Islamic State one day. He approves of attacks on U.S. soldiers in America and says that Hezbollah’s bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon was not an act of terrorism. In April, he wrote a poem that put the U.S. and its military in a disgustingly negative light. He believes in 9/11 conspiracy theories and blasts the U.S. for “demonizing” Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban, while characterizing Al-Qaeda, Hamas and other Islamist terrorists as flawed freedom fighters. Mohamed Qatanani leads a mosque founded by a Hamas operative and the Department of Homeland Security wants to deport him because of his terror ties. He did not disclose on his green card application that Israel convicted him in 1993 for his involvement with Hamas. He admitted to having been a member of the Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood but says he left in 1991 because of time limitations. He has also made shady money transfers. The DHS explained in a 2008 court filing, “It is certainly suspicious when a person who has been convicted of being a member of, and providing services, to Hamas, who has personal ties to a Hamas militant leader, and a Hamas fundraiser also sends undisclosed cash to the West Bank.” More recently, he said the U.S. should institute laws against anti-Islam speech. Jamal Badawi is a founder of MAS and his fundraising for the Holy Land Foundation got him designated as an unindicted co-conspirator in the trial of the charity. He made a theological case for suicide bombings in 1999 by saying the action doesn’t qualify as suicide. In February 2009, he referred to Hamas terrorists as “martyrs” and endorsed the group’s “combative jihad” in March 2010. His name also appears in a 1992 U.S. Muslim Brotherhood phone book. In July 2007, he spoke at an event in Qatar honoring senior Brotherhood cleric, Sheikh Yousef al-Qaradawi, who likes to call himself the “mufti of martyrdom operations.” He is also on the board of Qaradawi’s International Association of Muslim Scholars that endorsed the killing of U.S. soldiers in Iraq. Imam Suhaib Webb is the imam of the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center. The mosque was founded by Abdurahman Alamoudi, the senior U.S. Brotherhood operative that now sits in prison on terror-related charges. The mosque’s 1998-2000 tax filings lists Qaradawi as one of its officials. Hatem Bazian is the chairman of American Muslims for Palestine, the host of another major Islamist gathering in the Chicago area in November. In 2004, he called for an intifada in America to “change fundamentally the political dynamics here,” calling on Muslims to follow in the footsteps of Palestinians and Iraqis involved in an “uprising,” a subtle endorsement of those fighting U.S. soldiers in Iraq at that time. He eerily predicted, “They’re gonna say some Palestinian [is] being too radical – well, you haven’t seen radicalism yet.” In speeches this year, he made the U.S. sound like a racist, imperialist country that wages war on Islam abroad and persecutes innocent Muslims at home. At MAS-ICNA’s 2009 conference, Ragheb Elsergany preached that Muslims must “liberate all of Palestine from the North to the South, from Al-Quds [Jerusalem] to the sea.” When this got attention, MAS-ICNA issued a statement saying “we deeply regret and affirm that such individuals will not be invited to future conferences,” not mentioning him by name. That same year, he said Allah commands Muslims to engage in jihad by “supporting the fighters, and the mujahideen and the besieged, and those in need there in Palestine.” The 2009 statement was insincere. MAS-ICNA had him back in 2010 and he said that the Arab Spring would make Israel “vanish absolutely.” He is speaking again this year. Kifah Mustapha is also an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trial and, like CAIR, was listed by the federal government as a member of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee. He used to be a volunteer for the pro-Hamas Islamic Association for Palestine, another Brotherhood front and he fundraised for the Holy Land Foundation, CAIR and MAS. He also was a vocalist in a band that performed pro-Hamas songs. He is an imam at the Mosque Foundation, which has strong Brotherhood affiliations. The conference’s speakers include numerous senior officials from the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), another unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land trial that the federal government says is a U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entity. The FBI identified ISNA as a Brotherhood front as early as 1987 and a 1991 American Muslim Brotherhood document confirms it. The MAS-ICNA convention features ISNA Secretary-General Safaa Zarzour and former ISNA President Imam Mohammed Magid. The MAS-ICNA website does not list the sponsors of its 2012 event but last year’s sponsors include the Dish Network, the Islamist group Islamic Relief USA, Turkish Airlines, Shop & Save Market, Allied Assets Advisors, Dar El Salam Travel, Zakat Foundation of America, Zaytuna College (America’s first Muslim college), Helping Hand for Relief & Development, Life for Relief & Development, Alwan Printing and Azzad Funds. This December, while many of you will be celebrating Christmas, nearly 10,000 Muslims will be coming together in Chicago for a celebration of the Muslim Brotherhood. This article was sponsored by the Institute on Religion and Democracy ######################### AND http://globalmbreport.org/?p=7847 ########################## AND below AND ALSO # 3 in red below EXCLUSIVE: Obama OIC Envoy Meets With Qaradawi Associate In Mauritania; Abdallah Bin Bayyah Part Of Antisemitic Religious Body Rashad Hussain The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) has announced that Rashad Hussain, President Obama’s Special Envoy to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, has attended a meeting in Mauritania that was hosted by Abdallah bin Bayyah, an associate of Global Muslim Brotherhood leader Youssef Qaradawi. According to the ISNA report, the subject of the meeting was “challenges faced by religious minorities in Muslim-majority communities” and participants included: The meeting last week was hosted by Shaykh Abdallah bin Bayyah, Vice Chair of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, in his new Global Centre for Renewal and Guidance in Nouakchott, Mauritania. Participants included Dr. Nourredine al-Khademi, Tunisian Minister of Religious Affairs; Dr. Ahmed Toufiq, Moroccan Minister of Islamic Affairs and Endowment; Mr. Rashad Hussain, President Obama’s Special Envoy to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation; Dr. Ahmed Ould Neini, Mauritanian Minister of Islamic Affairs; Dr. Abderrazak Juessoum, President of the Algerian Muslim Scholars Association; and other prominent scholars. The scholars also met with President Mohamed Ould Abdel Aziz of Mauritania to brief him on the purpose of their visit to Mauritania and the goal of their project. The President was very supportive and offered the scholars his assistance facilitating the development of solutions to this enormous challenge.” Abdallah Bin Bayyah, last known to be living in Saudia Arabia, is a well known global Muslim Brotherhood figure also from Mauritania. According to an on-line biography, Sheikh Bin Bayyah was born in Eastern Mauritania and was the son of “one of the greatest scholars of his time.” According to this source, Sheikh Bin Bayyah was taught Islamic subjects by his father and in his early 20’s, was sent by the Mauritanian government to Tunis to study Islamic jurisprudence. Upon his return to Mauritania, he became a judge in the Ministry of Justice. He was also chosen to be the head of the Shariah section of the court of appeals and later to “High Authority for Religious Affairs.” Sheikh Bin Bayyah held numerous government posts including Vice-President, Prime Minister, and Permanent Secretary of the People’s Party of Mauritania. Sheikh Bin Bayyah is a member of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, the theological body headed by Global Muslim Brotherhood leader Youssef Qaradawi and affiliated with the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe, essentially comprising the European Muslim Brotherhood. The ECFR meets annually and a Wall Street Journal reporter who attended a 2004 meeting described the extremism and antisemitism that took place: “…members, speaking in Arabic, explained how European Muslim family life was under attack. ‘Extremist fundamentalist powers based on aggression on the part of the Crusader and Zionist alliance in the West are now preparing their cultural strategy according to a new wave of secular tendencies,’ said Ahmed Ali Al- Imam, a Sudanese religious figure who advocates the implementation of sharia in his religiously divided country. Other papers accepted traditional norms that directly contradict Western law and society, especially regarding women and marriage. Women should only cut their hair with their husbands’ permission, and “any woman who would marry without a male guardian’s consent, her wedding is invalid,” declared Muhammad Hawari, a Germany-based member of the group. Sometimes the group’s advice seems aimed at Muslims from another era. ‘Children should eat clean food and use clean water. They should not urinate in water wells,’ Mr. Hawari wrote in a paper. Adoption, he added, was forbidden, because a woman might be seen in a state of undress by a child other than her biological offspring. And if a child is adopted, Mr. Hawari said they should not be given equal rights to biological children.” The same reporter also wrote that a Council member cited “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” a notorious anti-Semitic forgery written in czarist Russia, in a position paper on how Muslim families are under threat in Europe. “The Protocols, the speaker said, was evidence of a Jewish plot to undermine Muslim moral values through sexual permissiveness.” Qaradawi himself is a virulent anti-Semite is often referred to here as the most important leader of the global Muslim Brotherhood, an acknowledgement of his role as the de facto spiritual leader of the movement. For a short time, Rashad Hussain was embroiled in controversy after the GMBDR reported both his associations with the US Muslim Brotherhood and remarks that he had made in 2004 about the prosecution of convicted terrorist Sami Al-Arian that were later deleted from the publication that reported them. Mr. Hussain at first denied remembering that he had made the remarks calling the prosecution “politically motivated persecution” but later, after an audio tape surfaced documenting the remarks, he acknowledged the comments but said that they had been “ill advised.” Mr. Hussain also admitted that he had complained to the publication about being misrepresented after the remarks were first reported but that the publication had deleted them on their own volition. The remarks did not appear to have been deleted until after Mr. Hussain had been appointed White House Counsel. (for an analysis of these events, go here). Since that time, Mr. Hussain has appeared at numerous events sponsored by the US Muslim Brotherhood including those held by the Center for the Study of Islamic and Democracy (CSID), the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago, the Council for the Advancement of Muslim Professionals (CAMP), and the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). A Hudson Institute report identifies both the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) as elements of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood. Previous posts have discussed the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties of the other organizations. In May, a post reported that ISNA held a symposium together with the Georgetown University’s Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding (ACMCU) which featured prominent members of the global Brotherhood including Abdallah Bin Bayyah and U.S. Muslim Brotherhood leader Jamal Badawi. A report by the Hudson Institute has identified ISNA as a major part of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood. The organization has a long history of fundamentalism, anti-semitism, and support for terrorism and during the recent Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing trial, ISNA was named as an unindicted co-conspirator. Although recently ISNA has issued condemnations of terrorism which for the first time identify Hamas and Hezbollah by name, there is no indication that the organization has ever addressed or acknowledged its history. European Brotherhood Imam Training Body Meets With EU Religious Adviser Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Denounces Coup In Mauritania EXCLUSIVE: New Obama Envoy Has History Of Engagement With U.S. Muslim Brotherhood; Called Al-Arian Case “Politically Motivated Persecution” WAMY Seeks To Open Office In Mauritania BREAKING NEWS: White House Reacts To GMBDR Story On New Obama Envoy Edited February 6, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steven Gaal Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Sorry Charlie, no mention of Hussain or the OIC in your latest wall of text. // END COLBY post #32 HUH ???? No good optometrist in Brazil ?? Both the Muslim American Society (MAS) and the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) are in a 1991 internal Muslim Brotherhood list of “our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” Imprisoned Brotherhood operative Abdurrahman Alamoudi testified that “everyone knows that MAS is Muslim Brotherhood.” +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TWO WHOLE ARTICLES ON HIM (HUSSAIN) IN POST # 31 above (miss the pictiure ??) picture below ####################### NOW LINK I GAVE ARTICLE BELOW EXCLUSIVE: New Obama Envoy Has History Of Engagement With U.S. Muslim Brotherhood; Called Al-Arian Case “Politically Motivated Persecution” Rashad Hussein, White House official and President Obama’s newly appointed Special Envoy to the Organization of Islamic Conference, has a history of participation in events connected with the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood as well as support for Brotherhood causes, once having called prosecution of the U.S. leader of a Palestinian terrorist organization one of many “politically motivated persecutions.” Mr. Hussain’s official biography states: Rashad Hussain is presently Deputy Associate Counsel to President Obama. His work at the White House focuses on national security, new media, and science and technology issues. Mr. Hussain has also worked with the National Security Staff in pursuing the New Beginning that President Obama outlined in his June 2009 address in Cairo, Egypt. Mr. Hussain previously served as a Trial Attorney at the U.S. Department of Justice. Earlier in his career, Mr. Hussain was a legislative assistant on the House Judiciary Committee, where he focused on national security-related issues. Mr. Hussain received his J.D. from Yale Law School, where he served as an editor of the Yale Law Journal. Upon graduation, he served as a Law Clerk to Damon J. Keith on the U.S. Court of Appeals. Mr. Hussain also earned his Master’s degrees in Public Administration (Kennedy School of Government) and Arabic and Islamic Studies from Harvard University. He attended college at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. However, in October 2000 Mr. Hussain spoke at a conference sponsored by the Association of Muslim Social Scientists (AMSS) and the Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University (CMCU). The conference was titled “Islam, Pluralism, and Demoracy and featured many leaders of the global Muslim Brotherhood including former German diplomat Murad Hoffman, and International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT) leaders Louay Safi, Jamal Barzinji, Hisham Al-Talib, and AbdulHamid AbuSulayman. The AMSS was founded in 1972 as an outgrowth of the Muslim Student Association and has long been associated with the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood. In June 2002, Mr. Hussain was listed as part of a Congressional Staffers panel at the American Muslim Council’s (AMC) 11th annual convention. The AMC was headed at that time headed by Abdurahman Alamoudi, a leader in the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and currently imprisoned as part of a plot to assassinate the Saudi head of state, Crown Prince Abdullah. Other important leaders of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood such as Jamal Barzinji were also part of the AMC. While at Yale Law School, Mr. Hussain was listed as part of the organizing committee for an April 2004 conference organized by a student organization known as the Critical Islamic Reflections (CIR) group. Among the CIR sponsors listed on the their web site was IIIT and the Fairfax Institute, the IIIT educational arm. IIIT is an important component of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and three of the key IIIT/Fairfax leaders Jamal Barzinji, Hisham Al-Talib, and Yaqub Mirza; were also associated with what has been called the SAAR network (Safa Group), a network of Islamic organizations located in Northern Virginia that was raided by the Federal government in March 2002 and which, until at least mid 2007, had been the subject of an ongoing investigation. Also listed as a CIR sponsor was ALIM, most likely referring to the American Learning Institute for Muslims and whose list of instructors includes some of the most important leaders of the U.S./global Muslim Brotherhood including Tariq Ramadan, Jamal Badawi, and Taha Al-Alwani. In September 2004, while still a Yale law student, Mr. Hussain participated in a session at the annual conference of the Muslim Student’s Association (MSA) of the U.S. and Canada. The MSA has long been associated with the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and at the session, Mr. Hussain appeared along side the daughter of Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader Sami Al-Arian and labeled Al-Arian’s prosecution “politically motivated persecution.” According to an archived notice in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs: A session on civil rights called “Get up, Stand up; Stand up for your Rights: The State of Contemporary Civil Liberties” was held Sept. 5 at the annual conference for the Muslim Students Association of the United States and Canada, held alongside the Islamic Society of North America’s 41st annual convention in Chicago. Laila Al-Arian, daughter of civil and political rights activist and Muslim leader Sami Al-Arian, opened the session with her father’s story. She gave a heart-wrenching, emotional account of an innocent man targeted for free-speech activities, whose rights were stripped thanks in part to the PATRIOT Act. Al-Arian, who has not yet been to trial, has been held in a federal penitentiary for over a year and a half. Al-Arian’s situation is one of many “politically motivated persecutions,” claimed Rashad Hussain, a Yale law student. Such persecution, he stated, must be fought through hope, faith, and the Muslim vote…..Along with many others, said Yale’s Hussain, Dr. Sami Al-Arian has been “used politically to squash dissent.” The Muslim community must speak out against the injustices taking place in America, he emphasized. Otherwise, everyone’s rights will be in jeopardy. (It should be noted that in the latest version of the above report, the sentences pertaining to Mr. Hussain have been removed, sometime after October 2007 according to the Internet Archive.) In 2006, Al-Arian was sentenced to 57 months in prison for conspiring to violate a federal law that prohibits making or receiving contributions of funds, goods or services to, or for the benefit of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Defense of Al-Arian and accusations of politically-motivated prosecution has been a long-time U.S. Muslim Brotherhood cause. In May 2009, Mr. Hussain was one of the speakers a Leadership Summit of the Council for Advancement of Muslim Professionals (CAMP). Many of the sponsoring organizations of that event are tied to the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood including Islamic Relief, Amana Mutual Funds, the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), the Council for American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding. It should also be noted that in August 2008, Mr. Hussein published a paper titled “Reformulating the Battle of ideas: Understanding the Role of Islam in Counterterrorism Policy.” Although a full analysis of this paper is beyond the scope of this post, it should be noted that many of the recommendations match the agenda also being pushed by the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood including: “Policymakers should reject the use of language that provides a religious legitimization of terrorism such as ‘Islamic terrorism’ and ‘Islamic extremist.’ They should replace such terminology with more specific and descriptive terms such as “Al-Qaeda terrorism.” Controlling counter-terrorism language has been a long-standing effort of the U.S. Brotherhood. “The United States should welcome and encourage the further development of mainstream Muslim organizations and moderate institutions.” As an example, the paper references the work of the Fiqh Council of North America, a part of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood. “The primary cause of broad-based anger and anti-Americanism is not a clash of civilizations but the perceived effect of U.S. foreign policy in the Muslim world.” Linking terrorism to U.S. foreign policy and “legitimate grievances” has been another longtime goal of the U.S. Brotherhood. In August 2008, the Obama campaign Muslim outreach adviser Mazen Asbahi resigned after the Wall Street Journal disclosed his U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties based on information developed by the GMDR. Another post has discussed the background of Dalia Mogahed, one of two U.S. Muslims appointed to the President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Ms. Mogahed’s background also suggests ties to the global Muslim Brotherhood. (Additional Source: “AMC’s 11th Annual Convention Set to Begin June 27th–Convention Program Included” accessed 7/21/2003 (no longer avaible) Related posts: EXCLUSIVE: Obama OIC Envoy Meets With Qaradawi Associate In Mauritania; Abdallah Bin Bayyah Part Of Antisemitic Religious Body BREAKING NEWS: White House Reacts To GMBDR Story On New Obama Envoy EXCLUSIVE: US OIC Special Envoy Joins U.S. Muslim Brotherhood At U.K. House Of Lords Event CAIR Charges Holy Land Prosecution Politically Motivated EXCLUSIVE: US Ambassador To Ireland Presents Obama Book To Irish Muslim Brotherhood Leader Edited February 6, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Sorry Charlie, no mention of Hussain or the OIC in your latest wall of text. // END COLBY post #32 HUH ???? No good optometrist in Brazil ?? Dishonesty is not a becoming quality, you know you edited your post AFTER I made mine, the timestamps leave no doubt about this. And despite your boast that your wall of text signifies “CASE CLOSED” your post-hoc evidence is weaker than that presented by Posner; it's nothing more than McCarthy like smear by association. Hussian participated in events organized by groups supposedly tied to the MB. Some times the group was only supposedly tied to groups supposedly tied to other groups tied to the MB. Often the only sources are far-right/neo-con arch-Zionist Islamophobic groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share Posted February 7, 2013 Dishonesty is not a becoming quality, you know you edited your post AFTER I made mine, the timestamps leave no doubt about this. // END Colby Dis what ?? I cleaned up above photo and articles already posted, a url that was for photo. As u say ?? Sorry Charlie ?? Islamophobic groups. ?? When has Colby every given credibility to Pakistan/Iranian government officials ??? ANSWER NEVER AS I RECALL. POT/KETTLE Islamophobic BLACK. ===================================== HUSSAIN"S OWN ACTIONS SHOW HIM LONG TIME PRO MB MAN. While at Yale Law School, Mr. Hussain was listed as part of the organizing committee for an April 2004 conference organized by a student organization known as the Critical Islamic Reflections (CIR) group. Among the CIR sponsors listed on the their web site was IIIT and the Fairfax Institute, the IIIT educational arm. IIIT is an important component of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and three of the key IIIT/Fairfax leaders Jamal Barzinji, Hisham Al-Talib, and Yaqub Mirza; were also associated with what has been called the SAAR network (Safa Group), a network of Islamic organizations located in Northern Virginia that was raided by the Federal government in March 2002 and which, until at least mid 2007, had been the subject of an ongoing investigation. Also listed as a CIR sponsor was ALIM, most likely referring to the American Learning Institute for Muslims and whose list of instructors includes some of the most important leaders of the U.S./global Muslim Brotherhood including Tariq Ramadan, Jamal Badawi, and Taha Al-Alwani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Dishonesty is not a becoming quality, you know you edited your post AFTER I made mine, the timestamps leave no doubt about this. // END Colby Dis what ?? I cleaned up above photo and articles already posted, a url that was for photo. As u say ?? Sorry Charlie ?? Perhaps you did intermediate edits the post I saw only included the Mauro article and what's above it. Islamophobic groups. ?? When has Colby every given credibility to Pakistan/Iranian government officials ??? ANSWER NEVER AS I RECALL. POT/KETTLE Islamophobic BLACK. Huh? Do you really not understand the difference between not unquestioningly accepting the pronouncements of gov't officials whose regimes are partisans to a conflict and being Islamophobic? Really? ===================================== HUSSAIN"S OWN ACTIONS SHOW HIM LONG TIME PRO MB MAN. While at Yale Law School, Mr. Hussain was listed as part of the organizing committee for an April 2004 conference organized by a student organization known as the Critical Islamic Reflections (CIR) group. Among the CIR sponsors listed on the their web site was IIIT and the Fairfax Institute, I wonder if I went through every event your pastor was involved with in his(her) life they might be able to find a couple that had questionable sponsors. Among the other 9 – 10 sponsors were the law school itself and the Chaplain's Office. the IIIT educational arm. IIIT is an important component of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and three of the key IIIT/Fairfax leaders Jamal Barzinji, Hisham Al-Talib, and Yaqub Mirza; were also associated with what has been called the SAAR network (Safa Group), a network of Islamic organizations located in Northern Virginia that was raided by the Federal government in March 2002 and which, until at least mid 2007, had been the subject of an ongoing investigation. The only cited source a WP article only mentioned a man named “Sami al-Arian” but nothing about the three men cited above. Nor was there any direct mention of IIIT/Fairfax, SAAR or Safa. It did mention “a Herndon-based network of Muslim charities” which probably was the IIIT, but being investigated and being guilty are not the same thing. Also listed as a CIR sponsor was ALIM, most likely referring to the American Learning Institute for Muslims and whose list of instructors includes some of the most important leaders of the U.S./global Muslim Brotherhood including Tariq Ramadan, Jamal Badawi, and Taha Al-Alwani. The three men were among the 16 “Guest Scholars” but not among the “Core Scholars” the only source linking them to the MB was a far-right/neo-con arch-Zionist Islamophobic group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) The West Wants The Muslim Brotherhood To Rule Arab Countries - Homs Professor Read more: http://www.disclose..../#ixzz2KJDkKQMW http://www.disclose....Homs_Professor/ ############################ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ U.S. State Department Official Appears With U.S. Muslim Brotherhood Leaders; Session Aimed At Recruiting Muslims According to the conference program, an official of the U.S. State Department appeared together inn December with representatives of the Muslim American Society (MAS) and the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation in order to encourage Muslims to join the U.S. Foreign Service. The program describes the session, titled “Engage Muslim Youth Career Opportunities”: Besides being a citizenship duty, there are benefits that Muslims can add to the American Muslim community and the global Muslim world by joining the US Foreign Services. This session will shed light on the different career opportunities for Muslim youth in the US Foreign Services Department. It will also clear any concerns that many people have feared about pursuing in this career. The three individuals featured in the session were identified as: Mark Ward (U.S. State Department) Ayman Hammous (Executive Director, MAS N.Y) Oussama Jammal (MAS, Vice-President Bridgeview Mosque Foundation) Mark Ward is described by his State Department bio as follows: Mark S. Ward is the Deputy Special Coordinator in the Office of Middle East Transition at the U.S. Department of State, the office that coordinates all civilian assistance to Middle Eastern countries in transition to democracy. Mr. Ward is a Career Minister in the Senior Foreign Service of the United States. The MAS was identified in a Hudson Institute report as a part of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and closely tied to the Egyptian organization and In March 2012, a post discussed a report that imprisoned U.S. Muslim Brotherhood leader Abdurrahman Alamoudi had testified that the MAS is, in fact, a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. In June of 2011, the MAS closed its political action wing, known as the Freedom Foundation (MAS Freedom), due to lack of “resources”, presumably meaning funding. MAS Freedom had been headed by MAS leader Mahdi Bray who, as reported in a post from January, was recovering from a cerebral stroke. Numerous posts have discussed the activities of Mr. Bray who according to a 2009 Investigative Project investigation had an undisclosed criminal background. The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) is a less well-known part of the Muslim Brotherhood network in the U.S., generally thought to be closely tied to the Jamaat-e-Islami organization of Southeast Asia, itself known to be allied with the Muslim Brotherhood. ICNA is particularly close to the Muslim American Society, a part of the US Muslim Brotherhood and tied to the Egyptian organization, and the two organizations have been holding joint annual conventions for many years. Previous posts have discussed ICNA ad campaigns intended to present Islam to the U.S. public. The New York campaign drew national media attention when it was reported that Siraj Wahajj, an American Islamic convert associated with the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood and an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, was behind the New York campaign. A post from March reported on a new ICNA educational campaign on Shari’ah (Islamic Law) . A post from August 2011 discussed a personal appeal for donations from the founder and former president of ICNA to support ICNA’s “Understanding Shari’ah” campaign. A 2004 Chicago Tribune report documented extensive connections between the Bridgeview Mosque and the Muslim Brotherhood as well as Hamas fundraising Related posts: EXCLUSIVE: Former White House Syrian Intermediary And Muslim Brotherhood Supporter Appears At CAIR Event With State Department Official U.S. Department Of State Sponsors Visits Of German Muslims to U.S Muslim Brotherhood Leaders US State Department Sends CAIR Official To Mali IIIT Reports Continuing Visits Of Foreign Muslims Sponsored By U.S. State Department EXCLUSIVE: Group Aimed At Electing Chicago Muslims To Local Governments; Leaders Tied To U.S. Muslim Brotherhood GlobalMB @ February 5, 2013 Edited February 8, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) The West Wants The Muslim Brotherhood To Rule Arab Countries - Homs Professor Read more: http://www.disclose..../#ixzz2KJDkKQMW http://www.disclose....Homs_Professor/ The “professor” did not offer any information in support of his claims. We are never told what and where he taught; he is not described as Dr., MA, MS or Phd so I doubt he has an advanced degree. I found no trace of a Syrian professor named Mohammad Al-Ahmad on the Net. For all we know he could really be a shoe store manager or even an agent of the Syrian gov't. He claims to have been interviewed by the BBC but I found no traces of such an interview. Though he claims he was born in and visited Homs we are never told where he lives now or where he was at the time. He could just as well have been in/live in Buenos Aires, Brazil; Paris TX or London ON as Syria. He's an Alawite BTW so it's not surprising he'd be a supporter of the regime. He made the bizarre claim bread made in Syria is being “hijacked” to Turkey, AFAICT not even the Syrian regime has made such allegations. ############################ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ U.S. State Department Official Appears With U.S. Muslim Brotherhood Leaders; Session Aimed At Recruiting Muslims According to the conference program, an official of the U.S. State Department appeared together inn December with representatives of the Muslim American Society (MAS) and the Bridgeview Mosque Foundation in order to encourage Muslims to join the U.S. Foreign Service. The program describes the session, titled “Engage Muslim Youth Career Opportunities”: [...] IIIT Reports Continuing Visits Of Foreign Muslims Sponsored By U.S. State Department EXCLUSIVE: Group Aimed At Electing Chicago Muslims To Local Governments; Leaders Tied To U.S. Muslim Brotherhood GlobalMB @ February 5, 2013 This comes from an obscure far-right Islamophobic newsletter, its "sources" for which there were no links or proper citations for the most part are horses of the same color. So at best (worst) we have a State Dept offical appearing at an event alongside people supposedly tied to the MB, this does not make the latter a puppet of the former. And LOL the "Hudson Institute" look them up and tell me if you think they are credible. Since you've moved on shall we assume you acknowledge you don't have any evidence Hussain is or was tied to the MB? Edited February 9, 2013 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) SO MANY MB US STATE DEPARTMENT CONNECTIONS (see posts above and all related posts). As thread title states unmasking the MB. Hudson Institute is a right corporate think tank with connections to Bush family. But since 911 NOT inside part Bush/Saudi job (PER YOU) ,its all good. http://www.currenttr...BROTHERHOOD.pdf IIIT Reports Continuing Visits Of Foreign Muslims Sponsored By U.S. State Department The International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), a part of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood, has reported two more visits to its headquarters by foreign Islamic leaders sponsored by the US Department of State International Visitor Program. According to the first report: A delegation of seven Saudi and Egyptian scholars visited IIIT on Friday, January 16, 2009. The visit was part of the State Department International Visitor Program intended to promote mutual understanding of relations between religion and the State, the conditions of Muslims and their institutions in the US, and the American system of government and politics. The visiting delegation included Dr. Sami Angawi – expert on Islamic Architecture in Mecca and Medina, Saudi Arabia, Dr. Saleh Almani – Dean of the College of Law and Political Science, King Saud University, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Dr. Sadig Malki – Assistant professor of Political Science, King Abdul Aziz University, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, Mr. Abou Elele Mady – founder and chairman of the centrist political party al Wasat in Egypt, Dr. Manar Shorbagy – senior consultant on US affairs with The Arab Center for Development and Future Studies, Dr. Said Sadek – political sociologist specializing in intermarriage, feminism, social change, media and public opinion in Arab societies, and Dr. Soraya Alturki – Professor of Anthropology in the American University, Cairo, Egypt. The group was addressed by Dr. Jamal Barzinji, Vice President of IIIT , who briefed them on IIIT mission, its history, its current activities and future plans. He also presented the challenges that face the American Muslim community and how IIIT is responding to them. Dr. Abubaker al Shingeiti briefed the delegation on the research work at IIIT focusing on Fiqh al Aqaliyaat, Maqasid al Shari’ah, and IIIT research project on Islamic Studies in American universities. He also presented IIIT support for Interfaith work and the engagement project with the US government and the American society at large. The second report describes another visit by Turkish Imams: As part of the US Department of State International Visitor Program, seven Imams from Turkey visited Washington on Tuesday, February 3, 2009, and met with leaders of American Muslim organizations as well as representatives of the Interfaith community in the metropolitan Washington area. The meeting was held at the Islamic Center of Washington, DC, and focused on the role of American Muslim organizations, particularly in the area of interfaith relations. Participants in the round table discussion included the following Turkish Imams: Mr. Mustafa Copursuz, Mr. Mustafa Demir, Mr. Suat Koca, Mr. Ramazan Kutlu, Mr. Mahmut Sevket Ozturk, Mr. Hafiz Osman Sahin, Mr. Ali Topal. Others from the US included: Imam Yahya al Hindi, Reverend Mark Hoelter, Reverend Jane Homes Dixon, and Dr. Abubaker al Shingeiti.Dr. Abubaker al Shingeiti, Regional Director of IIIT, briefed the Imams on IIIT, its mission, history, current research and publication work and its support for interfaith activities. IIIT was founded in the U.S. in 1980 by important members of the Global Muslim Brotherhood who wished to promote the “Islamization of Knowledge.” IIIT was associated with the now defunct SAAR Foundation, a network of Islamic organizations located in Northern Virginia that was raided by the Federal government in 2003 in connection with the financing of terrorism. The organization appeared to have withdrawn from public view following the 2003 raids and although a report in the Washington Post from June 2007 indicated that IIIT and the SAAR Foundation were still under investigation by the Justice Department, IIIT seems to be enjoying a renaissance of late. Previous posts have discussed other visits by foreign Muslims to IIIT sponsored by the U.S. State Department, a relationship between IIIT and George Mason University, and the role of IIIT in working with a probably Pentagon subcontractor in Iraq. Another post discussed plans by IIIT to construct colleges in Bosnia and Lebanon. Related posts: U.S. Department Of State Sponsors Visits Of German Muslims to U.S Muslim Brotherhood Leaders U.S. State Department Sponsors Latest IIIT Exchange Program U.S. State Department Funds Visit By Chinese Scholars To IIIT Egyptian Religious Leaders Visit IIIT In Latest State Department Program Online News Portal Reports State Department Change in Policy on Brotherhood Edited February 9, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Yet SO MANY MB US STATE DEPARTMENT CONNECTIONS (see posts above and all related posts). As thread title states unmasking the MB. Hudson Institute is a right corporate think tank with connections to Bush family. But since 911 NOT inside part Bush/Saudi job (PER YOU) ,its all good. Another false dichotomy, not believing they were involved in 9/11 does not equal liking them. The Hudson Institute is part of a closely knit group of neoconservative policy institutes that champion aggressive and Israel-centric U.S. foreign policies. Founded in 1961 by several dyed-in-the-wool Cold Warriors, including Herman Kahn—a one-time RAND nuclear war theorist notorious for his efforts to develop "winnable" nuclear war strategies—Hudson describes itself as “a nonpartisan policy research organization dedicated to innovative research and analysis that promotes global security, prosperity, and freedom.”[1] Hudson compliments its foreign policy work with research on social and economic agendas, claiming to "challenge conventional thinking and help manage strategic transitions to the future through interdisciplinary and collaborative studies in defense, international relations, economics, culture, science, technology, and law."[2] Although the institute calls itself a "non-partisan” organization, its scholars and work tend to reflect a deeply ideological connection to rightist Israeli policies and actors and is thus widely viewed as a member of the U.S “Israel Lobby.” Funding Right-Wing Israeli Politics In mid-2010, Israeli bloggers uncovered the Hudson Institute’s funding of a right-wing Israeli group that was founded by a settler leader named Israel Harel. According to authors Didi Remez and Shira Beery, writing in the blog Coteret, U.S. tax forms and official Israeli registration documents show that Hudson has been a principal financial backer of the Institute for Zionist Strategies (IZS), providing no less than 50 percent of this group’s budget over several years, amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars.[3] IZS together with another right-wing group called Im Tirzu—which has received significant funding from U.S. Pastor John Hagee’s Christian Zionist group Christian’s United for Israel (CUFI)[4]—have been at the forefront of a controversial effort to attack sociology and political science departments they deem “left-wing” http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/hudson_institute While describing itself as "non-partisan" and preferring to portray itself as independently "contrarian" rather than as a conservative think tank, the Hudson Institute gains financial support from many of the foundations and corporations that have bankrolled the conservative movement. The Capital Research Center, a conservative group that seeks to rank non-profits and documents their funding, allocates Hudson as a 7 on its ideological spectrum with 8 being "Free Market Right" and 1 "Radical Left." [1] [...] Board of Trustees The Hudson Institute also has 32 trustees including: Conrad Black Roy Innis Richard Perle The Hudson Institute also has "Trustee Emeriti" including: Craig Fuller, who led the PR firm Hill & Knowlton's Gulf War front group, Citizens for a Free Kuwait Kenneth M. Duberstein, who runs a top DC lobby firm with a host of corporate clients Alexander M. Haig Staff According to the Institute's 2002-2003 IRS return, the five highest paid employees, other than officers, and their total financial compensation, were: Norman Podhoretz, senior fellow, $163,626 Michael Horowitz, senior fellow, $189,007, directs Hudson's Project for Civil Justice Reform (which promotes tort reform) and Project for International Religious Liberty [...] Lt. General William Odom, who was director of Hudson's Center for National Security Studies in 2001 is now a Senior Fellow I. Lewis Scooter Libby (Senior Advisor) http://www.currenttr...BROTHERHOOD.pdf IIIT Reports Continuing Visits Of Foreign Muslims Sponsored By U.S. State Department The International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), a part of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood, has reported two more visits to its headquarters by foreign Islamic leaders sponsored by the US Department of State International Visitor Program. According to the first report: Yet another post sourced entirely from far-right Islamophobic sources. Get back to us with independent confirmation the IIIT is an MB front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) http://frontpagemag....jihadist-event/ MB liked by current US STATE DEPARTMENT ================================= http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/the_folly_of_the_wests_alliance_with_the_muslim_brotherhood.html NO BIG COMMIE THREAT ??? HELP ONE ALONG SO THE MIC CAN KEEP ON GOING STRONG ($). ITS NOT A MISTAKE/ERROR THAT MB SUPPORTED. ITS A PLAN TO KEEP DEFENSE SPENDING STRONG. Edited February 11, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) http://frontpagemag....jihadist-event/ MB liked by current US STATE DEPARTMENT ================================= LOL yet another far-right Islamophobic source, still waiting for independent confirmation. Do really think a site run by David Horowitz is reliable? Take a look at articles such as: The West's Shameful Demonization ofIsrael Why Israel Was Justified in Attacking Syria Israel Hatred at the Huffington Post Jewish Woman in Iran Cut in Half for Refusing to Turn Over Her Home to a Mosque Note also the lack of details, other than being informed it was “recent” and “in Chicago” we weren't told when or where the supposed event took place. Someone from the State Dept. only identified as Ward supposedly participated in the supposed event but we are never told his or first (or last?) name or gender. http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/the_folly_of_the_wests_alliance_with_the_muslim_brotherhood.htmlNO BIG COMMIE THREAT ??? HELP ONE ALONG SO THE MIC CAN KEEP ON GOING STRONG ($). This book has already been discussed on this thread and it seems that it doesn't really help you, the author's thesis seems to be that some western governments have been short sited in trying to use the MB to their advantage. His whole point is that in the end they do as they see fit. Once again you turn to yet another far-right Islamophobic source (the John Birch Society), the reviewer displays a serious ignorance as to the facts, "The presence of in the West is not a recent; on the contrary, it reaches back many decades, to Nazi Germany. Then, a group of former Soviet Muslims, seeking better treatment in Germany, defected and aided the Nazi effort." LOL she led off with a 'Reductio ad Hitlerum' but she got her facts wrong the were already several mosques in the UK and at least one each in Paris and Berlin by 1924 nearly a decade before Hitler came to power. http://en.wikipedia....sques_in_Europe ITS NOT A MISTAKE/ERROR THAT MB SUPPORTED. ITS A PLAN TO KEEP DEFENSE SPENDING STRONG. By most accounts the MB does not back terrorism. EDIT - Formatting Edited February 12, 2013 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) By most accounts the MB does not back terrorism. // end Colby ASSAD might not agree (Gaal) =========================================== This Real History (Gaal) Using Islam to Fight Communism Just as the Nazis had used Muslims for their own ends, the U.S. government acted similarly, as Johnson recounts in A Mosque in Munich, which traces the United States' burgeoning interest in using Islam as an anti-communist tool. As early as 1951, at the end of Harry Truman's second term in office, U.S. intelligence agencies considered using Islam to shore up the free world in the fight against Soviet Cold War influence and essentially split the Soviet Union by pitting non-Russians against Russians. At first, the United States concentrated on working with ex-Nazi, non-Russian Muslim émigrés as part of a CIA-funded broadcast organization, Radio Liberty, headquartered in Germany and dedicated to overthrowing the Soviet Union. At the time, U.S. Cold War policy focused on "containment," or preventing the spread of Communism. Eventually, U.S. Cold War efforts became more aggressive, and the goal shifted to overturning communism altogether by various covert operations, economic warfare, sabotage, and propaganda. Johnson writes that in 1953, when prominent Muslims scheduled a conference -- an "Islamic Colloquium" -- at Princeton University, they received support from the U.S. Department of State and the Library of Congress. Prior to the conference, Muslim leaders requested a meeting with President Eisenhower who was keen to influence the Muslim world. The overt goal of the conference was to promote Islamic "Renaissance," but it also served to cement U.S. relations with the Muslim Brotherhood. In order to facilitate the inclusion of MB leader Said Ramadan at the Princeton colloquium, the U.S. embassy in Cairo sanitized Ramadan's career history to eliminate his close association with the Grand Mufti and his fight against Jews in Israel. Ramadan was also treated to an Oval Office visit with President Eisenhower. Of course, Ramadan was not interested in cultural exchanges and fiercely adhered to his political goals of expelling Jews from Palestine and the British from Egypt. He admired the Grand Mufti, as well as one of the most influential Muslim theorists of all time, Sayyid Qutb, who plainly stated that anyone who failed to follow the Muslim Brotherhood's views was an apostate who could be killed. A few years earlier, Ramadan and Al-Banna founded the World Muslim Congress to increase Muslim influence worldwide. The MB leadership fought communism for the simple opportunistic reason that communist states banned or controlled religion. By his second term, Eisenhower, a religious man who saw the utility of devout Muslims to fight the atheistic nature of Communism, was more serious about Islam and worried about the growing Soviet influences in Egypt. By the 1950s, the Soviets recognized the political expediency of reversing their discriminatory policies against Muslims and reopened mosques, allowed for the training of imams and even sending Muslims on the Hajj. Meanwhile, the U.S. state department, the CIA and the U.S. Information Agency decided to align closely with "reform" groups like the Muslim Brotherhood as an ally against Communism. The United States shunned alliances with traditional Muslim groups, who were easily discredited by their Nazi pasts and weak religious credentials. The CIA acknowledged the utility of MB leader Said Ramadan in this effort. When the MB was banned in Egypt under President Gamal Abdel Nasserin 1954, Ramadan fled to Jordan, where he was named the West German ambassador at large. He became head of the Munich mosque, which he envisioned as a beachhead to establish Islam in Europe. When Ramadan with American backing was able to wrest control of the mosque from the ex-Nazi Muslim émigrés from the Soviet Union, he began proselytizing widely about fighting communism in order to raise money for construction of the mosque. He secured funding for the building from Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan, and Turkey. The United States had wanted a credible voice in the Muslim world to fight communism and they found it with Ramadan. Johnson explains how Ramadan created an extensive structure for the MB: an array of front groups that served various functions, including a magazine as a propaganda arm; a Muslim student organization; and an international organization, the Muslim World League, designed to unite Muslims, set policy, and serve as a unified voice. As he developed strong anti-Communist credentials, Ramadan was able to increase the influence of the MB and internationalize the German Muslims and the Munich mosque. In the 1960s, the United States turned away from the Muslim Brotherhood, as its attention was focused on Vietnam. Meanwhile, Ramadan concentrated on building the MB's global influence. Fifteen years later, the U.S. interest in using Islam as a Cold War weapon was revived, and the government sought MB help to arm the Afghanis against the Soviets. In 1973, alleged al-Qaeda financier Youssef Nada took over management of the Munich mosque and led it into the Saudi network. Partnering with the Muslim Brotherhood against Terrorism Following the 9/11 attacks, the U.S. government began investigating one of Nada's investment vehicles, Bank al-Taqwa. Johnson contends that terrorism-financing charges against Nada were never proven. However, Nada had been active with the MB for more than 50 years, according to Patrick Poole, an anti-terrorism consultant to law enforcement and the military. By 2001, Nada was one of the organization's international leaders. Poole contends that Nada had been involved in money laundering and the funding of several terrorist groups, including al-Qaeda and Hamas. From the beginning, the Saudis dominated the Muslim World League. They used Saudi money and the MB ideology, with Munich as its epicenter, to spread Islamic thinking throughout the West. In 1977, MB leaders met at a lakeside villa in Lugano, Switzerland to set up lasting MB structures, including the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), to provide the theoretical foundation for the spread of Islam in the West. At the same time, the MB was establishing a foothold in America and decided to locate the IIIT in the United States. They had turned their student group, the Muslim Student Association (MSA), into a national movement after founding it in America in 1962 with Saudi money. By the 1980s, the Muslim Brotherhood had an impressive headquarters in Indianapolis, its American beachhead, which housed several front groups: the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT), the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and the MSA. Yet another post sourced entirely from far-right Islamophobic sources. Get back to us with independent confirmation the IIIT is an MB front. // END COLBY ABOVE (Gaal) +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1928 CORRECT DATE FOUNDING MB. BTW MB'S FIRST MOSQUE WAS MOSTLY PAID FOR BY THE SUEZ CANAL COMPANY. NOW IN THE MID 1950s THE JFK ASSASSINATED CONNECTED TEXAS MURCHISONS DID BUSINESS DEALS WITH THE SUEZ CANAL COMPANY. YOU WOULD BE AMAZED WHO IS THE $ MONEY $ BEHIND THE SUEZ CANAL COMPANY. (Gaal) Muslims Fighting for Nazism During World War II, the Nazis saw an opportunity to use disenfranchised non-Russian Muslim minorities to fight the Soviet Union. As victims of Soviet repression, Muslims were treated as an underclass. Their farms were collectivized, their assets were confiscated, they were persecuted for practicing their religion, and their mosques were shuttered. Thus, they became ripe for Nazi exploitation, and, as devalued soldiers, non-Russian Muslim minorities were eager to be captured by the Germans and fight against Stalin. In addition, since anti-Semitism was an intrinsic part of their religious doctrine, these Muslims naturally allied with Nazis efforts to exterminate Jews. Johnson recounts that by the 1930s, another force in the Islamic world, the MB, founded in 1928, was accepting money from the Nazis and using it to establish a military wing. The nascent organization run by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, focused on anti-British colonialism and opposition to Jewish immigration. In 1933, al-Husseini contacted the Nazis about supplying recruits for the Waffen-SS, the military wing of the Nazi party, and joining a collaborative effort to eliminate Jewish influence in economics and politics. Seduced by the oil-rich Caucasus inhabited by the Muslim minorities, Hitler realized the potential of being viewed as a liberator of this oppressed region. When the Wehrmacht seized the North Caucasus in 1942, the Germans announced to cheers that the mosques would be reopened and the SS began actively courting émigré leaders in the region in an effort to employ Islam as a motivating force to assist their fighting units. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yet another post sourced entirely from far-right Islamophobic sources // end Colby SO YOU DONT MISS IT IM SWITCHING TO 24 FONT (Gaal) THE ARTICLE THAT STARTED THIS THREAD IS IN COUNTERPUNCH ONLINE,THUS YOUR CONTINUAL ASSERTION THAT THIS IS SOME TYPE OF Islamophobic Disinformation account , IS ABSURD. Edited February 12, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) By most accounts the MB does not back terrorism. // end Colby ASSAD might not agree (Gaal) =========================================== King George considered the American rebels terrorists, Hitler thought the same of the partisans, ditto the Arpartied regime of the ANC. Armed rebellion only began in Syria after peaceful protests were violently suppressed confirming JFK's observation that, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ===========================================This Real History Using Islam to Fight Communism Just as the Nazis had used Muslims for their own ends, the U.S. government acted [...] Muslims Fighting for Nazism [...] See what I mean about you INTENTIONALLY steering debates in circles. You posted this text in your previous post, I already addressed it, the book she reviewed was discussed months ago in this very thread. Yet another post sourced entirely from far-right Islamophobic sources. Get back to us with independent confirmation the IIIT is an MB front. // END COLBYABOVE (Gaal) Huhh? this is the same far right source from your previous post. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1928 CORRECT DATE FOUNDING MB. BTW MB'S FIRST MOSQUE WAS MOSTLY PAID FOR BY THE SUEZ CANAL COMPANY. NOW IN THE MID 1950s THE JFK ASSASSINATED CONNECTED TEXAS MURCHISONS DID BUSINESS DEALS WITH THE SUEZ CANAL COMPANY. YOU WOULD BE AMAZED WHO IS THE $ MONEY $ BEHIND THE SUEZ CANAL COMPANY. (Gaal) I'll take your word for it for now about the underlined portion, if true it's that much more evidence the author of the American Thinker piece did know what she was talking about. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Yet another post sourced entirely from far-right Islamophobic sources // end Colby SO YOU DONT MISS IT IM SWITCHING TO 24 FONT (Gaal) THE ARTICLE THAT STARTED THIS THREAD IS IN COUNTERPUNCH ONLINE,THUS YOUR CONTINUAL ASSERTION THAT THIS IS SOME TYPE OF Islamophobic Disinformation account , IS ABSURD. Use of extra-large type doesn't add legitimacy to a strawman I never indicated the article from the OP was an example far-right Islamophobia, I criticized it for other reasons Edited February 13, 2013 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yup pro- Palestinian MB Egypt Floods Gaza Tunnels to Cut Palestinian Lifeline February 14, 2013 Print Version Source: Reuters Egyptian forces have flooded smuggling tunnels under the border with the Palestinian-ruled Gaza Strip in a campaign to shut them down, Egyptian and Palestinian officials said. The network of tunnels is a vital lifeline for Gaza, bringing in an estimated 30 percent of all goods that reach the enclave and circumventing a blockade imposed by Israel for more than seven years. Reuters reporters saw one tunnel being used to bring in cement and gravel suddenly fill with water on Sunday, sending workers rushing for safety. Locals said two other tunnels were likewise flooded, with Egyptians deliberately pumping in water. Read more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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