Scott Kaiser Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I have not seen any evidence that Oswald was on the payroll of the FBI or he wouldn't be working at that coffee shop where JVB says they worked together as lovers, ahem.... nor do I believe the coffee shop was Oswald's cover. I do not I see anywhere on that document that indicates Debrueys was Oswald's FBI handler. I believe someone is making this a bit more then what is seen on the surface. Then we are told that his CIA handlers are David Ferre and Clay Shaw. I don't believe they were his handlers either. I do believe that they were communicating with Oswald for intelligence information, and Oswald's views about communism. If the reader remembers, at that time communism was the new war that ended up in America's homes across the country not to mention Russia's outlook on living as they perceived communism as Socialist power as their country should be ruled and governed by dictators. This is what lead Fidel Castro to move ever so quickly deceiving everyone. The communist war I'm speaking of is the Vietnam war Eisenhower jumped into. It's not too farfetched to believe that Oswald was just Oswald, not involved working for the FBI or CIA. He was, however, and outcast, used as pasty for the sole purpose of the planned assassination. I personally know other's who "represented" themselves as FBI, CIA, U.S. Customs, a Hialeah Police Officer and a Lieutenant, an Officer in the United States Army, and, although it's easy to believe he was none of these things. I also believe that to be true with Oswald. Scott, Your post is in response to what? --Tommy, the Serious 50 Reasons for 50 years Episode 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) I have not seen any evidence that Oswald was on the payroll of the FBI or he wouldn't be working at that coffee shop where JVB says they worked together as lovers, ahem.... nor do I believe the coffee shop was Oswald's cover. I do not I see anywhere on that document that indicates Debrueys was Oswald's FBI handler. I believe someone is making this a bit more then what is seen on the surface. Then we are told that his CIA handlers are David Ferre and Clay Shaw. I don't believe they were his handlers either. I do believe that they were communicating with Oswald for intelligence information, and Oswald's views about communism. If the reader remembers, at that time communism was the new war that ended up in America's homes across the country not to mention Russia's outlook on living as they perceived communism as Socialist power as their country should be ruled and governed by dictators. This is what lead Fidel Castro to move ever so quickly deceiving everyone. The communist war I'm speaking of is the Vietnam war Eisenhower jumped into. It's not too farfetched to believe that Oswald was just Oswald, not involved working for the FBI or CIA. He was, however, and outcast, used as pasty for the sole purpose of the planned assassination. I personally know other's who "represented" themselves as FBI, CIA, U.S. Customs, a Hialeah Police Officer and a Lieutenant, an Officer in the United States Army, and, although it's easy to believe he was none of these things. I also believe that to be true with Oswald. Scott, Your post is in response to what? --Tommy, the Serious 50 Reasons for 50 years Episode 4 That's great, Scott. The only reason I posted 50 Reasons for 50 Years episode #04 here is because it's the only thing I know that has the Jim Doyle footage (of Oswald's arrest in New Orleans on 8/09/63) in it. Which I think is important because I believe that the "Neck Scratcher" in it (coming in from the left at 3:55) is David Sanchez Morales. --Tommy, the Serious Edited January 2, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Mr. Serious - assuming it is Morales scratching his neck, what do you think he was doing there? I've said before it looks more like a signal than an itchy neck. Who might he be signaling? What do you think was his role that day? Do you think he was involved in the assassination? If so, who do you think he was working for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) Earlier in this thread, a question was asked regarding whether Morales had a scar over his eye. Also regarding Neck Scratcher Man. He seems to have a long neck where Morales is much stockier. Just my opinion. Edited January 2, 2016 by James Richards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kaiser Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 This photo was taken of someone at Dealey Plaza on the day of the assassination, I don't know who it is. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovvesobu71kp947/Morales%201.jpg?dl=0 And photo number two. https://www.dropbox.com/s/akr8sgnrtjd9lkz/Morales%202.jpg?dl=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kaiser Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Whoever this was, nearly has the same hairline as David on the right, has anyone ever seen this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted January 3, 2016 Author Share Posted January 3, 2016 This photo was taken of someone at Dealey Plaza on the day of the assassination, I don't know who it is. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ovvesobu71kp947/Morales%201.jpg?dl=0 It is Bonnie Ray Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WzOs-jTOo-Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 For those who don't know, Jefferson Morley and David Talbot dug into the RFK aspect of this in great detail and thoroughly debunked it. Later work actually located and named the individuals named in the video as CIA officers - they were not - and Shane himself no longer supports the Morales identification at the Ambassador; we have exchanged email on that. Yet the internet being what it is, the story will never die and neither will photo id of suspects, its just all to good to pass up. This is a good example of why any story on the internet needs to be fact checked so for balance I suggest the following: https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_The_BBCs_Flawed_RFK_Story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Dear Forum Members, Not that it matters one whit now that highly-respected James and Larry have chimed in, but am I the only person who can see the scar above Morales' left eye in two or three of the photos I posted of him??? (In "rebuttal" to James' photo of Morales which appears to show what he looked like several years after 1963, all I can say is that maybe he had that scar above (and on) his left eyebrow removed by a plastic surgeon. After all, we do know that at some point E. Howard Hunt had his ears changed...) And the thin, brown, shiny leather camera strap around "Neck Scratcher's" neck? And Neck Scratcher's unusual, partially-white fingers? Can anyone else see the back of Morales' white index finger in the photo of him taking with those two Vietnamese guys in Vietnam? Just wondering. --Tommy PS It's interesting to note that Nestor Izquierdo also had those unusual, partially-white fingers like Neck Scratcher's. http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKizquierdo.htm Edited January 9, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Dear Forum Members, Not that it matters one whit now that highly-respected James and Larry have chimed in, but am I the only person who can see the scar above Morales' left eye in two or three of the photos I posted of him??? (In "rebuttal" to James' photo of Morales which appears to show what he looked like several years after 1963, all I can say is that maybe he had that scar above (and on) his left eyebrow removed by a plastic surgeon. After all, we do know that at some point E. Howard Hunt had his ears changed...) And the thin, brown, shiny leather camera strap around "Neck Scratcher's" neck? And Neck Scratcher's unusual, partially-white fingers? Can anyone else see the back of Morales' white index finger in the photo of him taking with those two Vietnamese guys in Vietnam? Just wondering. --Tommy PS It's interesting to note that Nestor Izquierdo also had those unusual, partially-white fingers like Neck Scratcher's. http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKizquierdo.htm bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Assuming it was Morales, what was he up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Assuming it was Morales, what was he up to? Paul. I don't know. I can only speculate. Probably up to no good, though. What do you think? "Fingering" Oswald for amateur photographer and Minuteman-from-Saint Paul, Minnesota, the alleged former soldier of Edwin Walker's in Germany, John T(imothy?). Martin (not to be confused with 14-year-old amateur photographer Jim Doyle from Portland, Oregon) ? Giving "moral support" to his protege(?), Oswald? --Tommy Edited January 11, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wengler Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I understand that Morales may have been at the Ambassador Hotel . When RFK was shot? Is there any evidence for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Mark, take a look at my post on number 114 and then check out this article on the subject....that was something that Shane O'Sullivan came up with but even he now agrees it was not Morales at the hotel. https://www.maryferr..._RFK_Story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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