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The answer to the question posed depends on the organization's mission. The typical intelligence organization has the mission of collecting information and turning the information into intelligence for end user or users.

Information is raw stuff; what someone said he observed at a particular place at a particular time, for example. Information generally speaking is provided by agents to case officers. Case officers present the information they gather to analysts. Analysts create intelligence from the information they receive. Intelligence is often a matter of judgment, of informed opinion. End users need to be skilled in how they judge and react to intelligence.

There are two fundamental components or roles to an intelligence operation: collection, meaning collection of information and agent handling, and counter-intelligence. The role of counter-intelligence is to uncover or otherwise thwart opposition collection efforts. The two, collection and counter-intelligence, are often quite separate. In a particular situation, however, the roles may become indistinguishable.

Agents are recruited, usually very carefully. The key quality of any agent is his or her access to something. The something, in the case of a pure intelligence organization, is typically tightly held and valuable information. The information isn't always tightly held (e.g., the spacing of parked planes at Pleiku Airfield) but it's valuable and not readily available. Sometimes the information is highly secret (e.g., the information Aldrich Ames and John Walker provided to the Soviets).

What is "a pure intelligence organization"? It's an organization that gathers information and from the information produces intelligence for end users. It's not a James Bond organization. Such organizations do exist. They are not intelligence organizations, although they make use of intelligence organization techniques -- cover stories and the like. They are skilled organizations that employ force.

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According to your definitions, would you say the CIA is a "pure" or an "un-pure" intelligence agency?

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292. National Security Council Directive on Office of Special Projects

Washington, June 18, 1948.

NSC 10/2

1. The National Security Council, taking cognizance of the vicious covert activities of the USSR, its satellite countries and Communist groups to discredit and defeat the aims and activities of the United States and other Western powers, has determined that, in the interests of world peace and US national security, the overt foreign activities of the US Government must be supplemented by covert operations.

2. The Central Intelligence Agency is charged by the National Security Council with conducting espionage and counter-espionage operations abroad. It therefore seems desirable, for operational reasons, not to create a new agency for covert operations, but in time of peace to place the responsibility for them within the structure of the Central Intelligence Agency and correlate them with espionage and counter-espionage operations under the over-all control of the Director of Central Intelligence.

3. Therefore, under the authority of Section 102(d)(5) of the National Security Act of 1947, the National Security Council hereby directs that in time of peace:

a. A new Office of Special Projects shall be created within the Central Intelligence Agency to plan and conduct covert operations; and in coordination with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to plan and prepare for the conduct of such operations in wartime.

b. A highly qualified person, nominated by the Secretary of State, acceptable to the Director of Central Intelligence and approved by the National Security Council, shall be appointed as Chief of the Office of Special Projects.

c. The Chief of the Office of Special Projects shall report directly to the Director of Central Intelligence. For purposes of security and of flexibility of operations, and to the maximum degree consistent with efficiency, the Office of Special Projects shall operate independently of other components of Central Intelligence Agency.

d. The Director of Central Intelligence shall be responsible for:

(1) Ensuring, through designated representatives of the Secretary of State and of the Secretary of Defense, that covert operations are planned and conducted in a manner consistent with US foreign and military policies and with overt activities. In disagreements arising between the Director of Central Intelligence and the representative of the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Defense over such plans, the matter shall be referred to the National Security Council for decision.

(2) Ensuring that plans for wartime covert operations are also drawn up with the assistance of a representative of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and are accepted by the latter as being consistent with and complementary to approved plans for wartime military operations.

(3) Informing, through appropriate channels, agencies of the US Government, both at home and abroad (including diplomatic and military representatives in each area), of such operations as will affect them.

e. Covert operations pertaining to economic warfare will be conducted by the Office of Special Projects under the guidance of the departments and agencies responsible for the planning of economic warfare.

f. Supplemental funds for the conduct of the proposed operations for fiscal year 1949 shall be immediately requested. Thereafter operational funds for these purposes shall be included in normal Central Intelligence Agency Budget requests.

4. In time of war, or when the President directs, all plans for covert operations shall be coordinated with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In active theaters of war where American forces are engaged, covert operations will be conducted under the direct command of the American Theater Commander and orders therefor will be transmitted through the Joint Chiefs of Staff unless otherwise directed by the President.

5. As used in this directive, “covert operations” are understood to be all activities (except as noted herein) which are conducted or sponsored by this Government against hostile foreign states or groups or in support of friendly foreign states or groups but which are so planned and executed that any US Government responsibility for them is not evident to unauthorized persons and that if uncovered the US Government can plausibly disclaim any responsibility for them. Specifically, such operations shall include any covert activities related to: propaganda, economic warfare; preventive direct action, including sabotage, anti-sabotage, demolition and evacuation measures; subversion against hostile states, including assistance to underground resistance movements, guerrillas and refugee liberation groups, and support of indigenous anti-communist elements in threatened countries of the free world. Such operations shall not include armed conflict by recognized military forces, espionage, counter-espionage, and cover and deception for military operations.

6. This Directive supersedes the directive contained in NSC 4-A, which is hereby cancelled.

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Source: National Archives and Records Administration, RG 273, Records of the National Security Council, NSC 10/2. Top Secret. Although undated, this directive was approved by the National Security Council at its June 17 meeting and the final text, incorporating changes made at the meeting, was circulated to members by the Executive Secretary under a June 18 note. (Ibid.) See the Supplement. NSC 10/2 and the June 18 note are also reproduced in CIA Cold War Records: The CIA under Harry Truman, pp. 213-216.

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E. Howard Hunt ghost-wrote Allen Dulles’ book, The Craft of Intelligence, which was published in 1963, the same year as JFK’s Assassination. Hunt was a great admirer of the Dulles brothers.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles


http://www.amazon.com/Craft-Intelligence-Legendary-Fundamentals-Gathering-ebook/dp/B00MJDA27C/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422718286&sr=1-1&keywords=the+craft+of+intelligence


The readers’ comments on Amazon regarding Allen Dulles’ book, which was later reissued, are illuminating. The first one cites David Atlee Phillips’s book on intelligence, The Night Watch.


http://www.amazon.com/Night-Watch-Years-Peculiar-Service/dp/0689107544/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422719177&sr=1-1&keywords=the+night+watch+by+david+atlee+phillips


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Greg,

The CIA carries out both intelligence and non-intelligence operations as far as I know.

One can be sure the CIA has recruited information-providing agents everywhere outside the the U.S. As well, one can be sure the CIA carries out counter-intelligence operations. These are what I call "pure" intelligence activities, It's just my term.

It's known that over the years CIA officers have carried out military operations, assassination attempts (e.g., against Che Guevara), propaganda campaigns, and other activities unrelated to the production of intelligence. These are not intelligence activities. They are the kind of activities in which Harry Truman came to regret the CIA's engagement. Popular jargon for these activities is that they are covert operations. That's a euphemism. Covert means hidden, not illegal, immoral, or imprudent.

To me, the CIA is a hybrid organization. In contrast, a military intelligence organization in my experience focuses on what I call pure intelligence activities. The U.S. Army has engaged in propaganda activities, for example, but those are in the bailiwick of G-5 not G-2 (at least that was the case when I was on active duty).

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May I suggest you read:

The Strategy of Terror

Europe's Inner Front

by Edmond Taylor

It is uploaded to my website at the above link as a PDF for easy online viewing. Please forgive the first few pages as some were intentionally left blank by the publisher, The Riverside Press, Cambridge, Mass (Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston 1940).

Here's a short excerpt:

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Has anyone in the research community or anyone qualified ever wrote about intelligence agencies linkage to the Import/Export business?

We all know Lee Oswald worked at Gerard F. Tujague's, after working at Dolly Shoe....so, that has always intrigued me. Anyone else?

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Has anyone in the research community or anyone qualified ever wrote about intelligence agencies linkage to the Import/Export business?

We all know Lee Oswald worked at Gerard F. Tujague's, after working at Dolly Shoe....so, that has always intrigued me. Anyone else?

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The alleged DIA letter gives no date for the alleged Soviet report. The Russian original is not supplied, and that is so noted in the letter. We can't judge if the report contains information about Dealey or other not known to the Soviets at any specific time. Consideration of Oswald in Mexico City takes up less space than notes on how the president's "whores" put him hors de combat. Pages 339 and following are apparently an alleged DIA commentary on the Soviet report.

Was the range of conspiracy books and topics described in Soviet point 63 even in existence at the time of the alleged DIA cover letter of 1978?

DAVID...you might have missed this Bill Kelly posting ,but I recall he posted about a female whistleblower of ONI saying there were 8 feet of ONI Oswald files......makes ya think dont it..????? ..United Fruit was working with ONI in the 1920s.......

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PD Scott in Dallas Conspiracy quoted Stephen Birmingham that Empire Trust maintained ,"something like a private CIA around the world to protect their investments.."(Our Crowd,Harper and Row ,1967,p.378). However there was no documentation in said Dallas Conspiracy book. John Crichton Army Reserve intelligence officer was part of Empire Trust. Crichton's claim to fame was hiring Ilya Mamantov to mistranslate Marina in an incriminating fashion her husband. I did find a second intelligence officer connected to Empire Trust.
At the National American Bank in New Orleans was director Leon Tujague (who gave LHO first job and LHO were he had a problematic Social Security number at the age of 15/half),director Clem A. Shert (Oswald family attorney) and later President of said bank, director Seymour Weiss a Lansky associate and director Ernest Carrere former Navy intelligence officer. Carrere was director of Louisiana Land and Exploration Co. which was owned by Empire Trust. Carrere was also John Mecoms Jr. attorney. John Mecom SR & JR (mob) were friends with DeMohrenschildt.
John Mecom Sr was part of the CIA connected San Jacinto Foundation which was one of the first groups to ask JFK to come to Dallas. That Carrere was Naval intelligence and connected to Empire Trust bolsters Birmingham's claim that Empire Trust had its own private CIA. Empire Trust whose leading shareholders were the inter-related familes of Kuhn,Loeb,Lehman and Bronfman. The Kuhn, Loeb-Morgan alliance, maintain close relationships with the House of Rothschild, said Rothschild's controlled the First National Bank Of Houston. GHWB became director of the Houston Bank in 1977. (Carrere set up his own retired intellligence group for Naval Intell Officers very similar to the way DAP had done.)
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Please note at the bank were the man who gave LHO his first job worked (Tujague) is a ONI officer. PLEASE note Dr. Rose wrote a whole article that LHO's Social Security number that was "odd" at age 15/half and started with Tujague company.

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It is not always easy to obtain information on the foundations which have sustained NSA's international operations. Take the San Jacinto Foundation, for example. In the past, San Jacinto has not only funded important portions of NSA's international program, but it has also given huge sums of money to the program budget of the ISC. In particular, it has been overly generous in supporting The Student, an ISC publication printed in five languages and distributed all over the world as an anti-communist weapon.
One other interesting fact about the San Jacinto Foundation is that, like the J. Frederick Brown Foundation, it has contributed to the CIA-suspect American Friends of the Middle East. No one at NSA, or ISC for that matter, appears to have the vaguest notion of what the San Jacinto Foundation is, who is on its board of directors or where its money comes from. San Jacinto has also apparently managed to avoid the reporting procedures required by law of all tax-exempt foundations. No records for it have been entered at the district office of the Internal Revenue Service in Austin, or with the secretary of the State of Texas, or with the county clerk.
San Jacinto's mailing address is the offices of F.G. O'Conner in the San Jacinto Building in downtown Houston. Mr. O'Conner is the secretary of the foundation. When asked by Ramparts' peripatetic reporter for some information about the foundation, Mr. O'Conner, a graying, distinguished-looking man in his sixties replied, it is a private, closed foundation, never had any publicity and doesn't want any.

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SEE SPIDERS WEB THREAD (posts # 46,#47,#48,#50) FOR John Crichton Empire Trust information.

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SEE THE FOURTH DECADE Volume 6,Number 1 for Dr. Jerry Rose Social Security # NUMBER article.

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United Fruit was working with ONI in the 1920s.......

SEE UNITED FRUIT ONI CONNECTION

The Archaeologist was a Spy: Sylvanus G. Morley and the Office of ... - Google Books Result

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Charles Houston Harris, Louis R. Sadler - 2003 - 450 pages

Morley reminded Easton that other United Fruit stations had been instructed to
accept ONI messages. Disappointingly, Easton pointed out that the concessions

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"The Railroading of Terri Pike" by William Kelly

http://politicalassassinations.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/the-railroading-of-terri-pike-by-william-kelly/

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http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18287

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SEE POST # 14 ABOVE

BACKGROUND FIRST NATIONAL BANK HOUSTON

http://www.whale.to/...Bank_of_Houston_

Despite the Hollywood image of redfaced Texas oil millionaires driving new Cadillacs, the Texan oil industry has for years been dominated by the London Rothschilds through the billion dollar First City National Bank of Houston, and its fifty-seven subsidiary Texas banks. Chairman of First City is James Anderson Elkins Jr., who is a director of Hill Samuel Co. of London, one of the seventeen merchant banks chartered by the Bank of England.

His father was chairman of First City, and founded the Texas law firm of Vinson and Elkins, the primary law firm of First City Bank. This firm dominated national politics through its most well known partner, John B. Connally, who achieved a reputation as "kingmaker" in Texas politics. He began as administrative assistant to Congressman Lyndon B. Johnson in 1949, then became attorney for the oil millionaire Sid Richardson, and Perry Bass, 1952-61, Secretary of the Navy 1961, Governor of Texas 1963-69; Secretary of the Treasury 1971-72. He was wounded in the Kennedy assassination in Dallas. He is now trustee of the Andrew Mellon Foundation, serves on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, and the Advisory Committee on Reforming the International Monetary System. He advised Nixon on devaluing the dollar and going off the gold standard in 1971. He is now director of Superior Oil, and Falconbridge Nickel Mines Ltd.

James Anderson Elkins is also director of Freeport Minerals, whose directors include some of the leading names in American business. Chmn of Freeport is Benno H. Schmidt, managing director of J.H. Whitney Co. Schmidt, who married into the wealthy Fleischmann family – (New Yorker magazine etc.) graduated from Harvard Law in 1941, became general counsellor of the War Production Baord in Washington 1941-42, and headed the Foreign Liquidation Commission 1945-46, which disposed of billions of dollars worth of property. He is also director of CBS, and Schlumberger, the huge oil field service firm who began business in 1928 when it was awarded its first contract by the Soviet Union – it is said to have important Anglo-Swiss intelligence connections. Other directors of Freeport Minerals are

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William McChesney Martin Jr., Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board 1951-1970, now director of J.P. Morgan U.S. Steel, Eli Lilly, General Foods, Royal Dutch Shell, IBM, American Express, Riggs National Bank, and Scandinavian Securities (the Wallenberg firm);
Donald S. Perkins, of Morgan Guaranty Trust, Time magazine;
John B. Madden, partner Brown Bros. Harriman;
Godfrey S. Rockefeller; Norborne Berkeley Jr., director Uniroyal, and Anglo-Energy Ltd.

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Other directors of First City Bancorporation include

Anne Armstrong, U.S. Ambassador to Britain 1976-77, co-chmn Reagan-Bush Campaign 1980, director of General Foods, General Motors, trustee Hoover Institution, Guggenheim Foundation, Atlantic Council, Council on Foreign Relations, Halliburton Co.;
George R. Brown, director of Halliburton

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Brown founded the huge contracting firm, Brown & Root, which financed Lyndon B. Johnson’s political campaigns, subsequently receiving billion dollar contracts to construct naval bases and airfields in Vietnam, which are now being used by the Soviet Navy and Air Force. Brown married into the Pratt family, founded Texas Eastern an oil firm, and is director of ITT, TWA, and the Brown Foundation.

The Brown-Johnson association began in 1940, when Johnson secured a lucrative contract for Brown & Root to build a large naval base at Corpus Christi, Texas; it was said then that any course chosen by Johnson would be paved by money from Brown & Root. J. Evetts Haley pointed out that Brown & Root prospered on government contracts after Johnson helped them and rapidly became a worldwide operation.

In 1940, the Internal Revenue Service found that large contributions given to Johnson by Brown & Root and its subsidiary, Victoria Gravel Co., as much as $100,000 each, were taken by Brown & Root as tax deductions. Haley states,

"Brown & Root were in control of Texas politics; that L.B. Johnson was in control of IRS; that records had been burned at IRS to get Brown off the hook in 1954. Johnson and Connally then picked up a government plant for a small sum which became a giant wartime contractor, the Sid Richardson Carbon plant at Odessa, Tex., in which Mrs. Lyndon B. Johnson had a one-fourth interest."

In 1955, Johnson suffered a major heart attack on his way to George Brown’s palatial Middleburg Va. estate.

As mentioned, Brown is a director of Halliburton, whose primary law firm is also Vinson & Elkins. In 1981, Halliburton had $8.3 billion revenues, 110,398 employees, and daily monitors most U.S. oil wells. In addition to George Brown and Anne Armstrong, directors of Halliburton include Lord Polwarth of Scotland, who is Governor of the Bank of Scotland, director of Canadian Pacific, Sun Life Assurance Ltd. and Brown & Root UK which interlocks with George Wimpey Ltd., the largest construction firm in England, through Brown & Root Wimpey Highland Fabricators.

Lord Polwarth, Henry Hepburne-Scott, is a descendant of James Hepburn, Earl of Bothwell, who was married to Mary, Queen of Scots. The first Baron Polwarth (1641-1724) was Sir Patrick Hume, first Earl of Marchmont, and William of Orange’s closest advisor. He accompanied William in 1688 on his voyage to take possession of the throne of England, and became his privy councillor, in which office he advised William to grant the charter of the Bank of England. He became a peer of Scotland 1689, Lord Chancellor of Scotland 1696-1702, and Earl of Marchmont 1697. He passed the Act of Succession on to the House of Hanover, and was reappointed by King George I.

John Pickens Harbin, president of Halliburton, is a director of Citicorp. Another director of Halliburton is William E. Simon, Secretary of the Treasury 1973-77. He is a director of Citicorp, Citibank, and United Technologies. As director of Citibank, he interlocks with Lord Aldington of London (Toby Low), who is also director of Ci[ibank and chairman of Sun Life Assurance, the keystone of the Rothschild fortune. Lord Aldington is chairman of Grindlay’s Bank, London, director of General Electric Ltd., Lloyd’s Bank, United Power Ltd., and National Discount Corp.

During a national "oil crisis" government officials complained they could not obtain any records from oil companies on production and reserves, yet Halliburton received this information on a daily basis.

As director of United Technologies, William Simon again interlocks with Citibank, the only corporation which has four officers on the board of directors of Citibank – Harry Gray, churn of United Technologies, Simon, William I. Spencer, who is president of Citibank, and Darwin Eatna Smith, chmn of Kimberly Clark.

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Other directors of United Technologies are

Robert F. Dee, chmn & CEO of the Smith Kline drug firm;
T. Mitchell Ford, general counsel CIA 1952-55, now chmn of the $1.8 billion Emhart Corp., and director of Travelers Insurance;
Richard S. Smith, exec. vice-pres. National Steel, was with First National Bank New York 1952-62, and treasurer of M.A. Hanna Co. 1962-63, and director of Hartford Fire Insurance, and Hartford Accident & Indemnity;
Charles W. Duncan, Jr., dep. Sec. Defense, 1977-79, Sec. Dept of Energy 1979-81, chmn Coca Cola International, chmn Coca Cola Europe, director Humble Oil Co.;
Melvin C. Holm, pres & CEO Carrier Corp., director N.Y. Telephone, Mutual of New York SKF Industries;
Antonia Chandler Hayes, wife of Abram Hayes, who was law clerk to Felix Frankfurter, later joined Covington & Burling, Washington 1952-55, wrote the Democratic Natl. Platform 1960, legal adviser Sec. of State 1961-64, director of foreign policy Democratic Natl. Committee 1972;
Jacqueline Wexler, pres. Webster College 1965-69, pres. Hunter College since 1969, leader of the feminist movement; and
Robert L. Sproull, with the Dept. Defense 1963-65, pres. Univ. of Rochester since 1970, lecturer at NATO, director of Xerox, General Motors, pres. Telluride Assn.

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Other directors of First City Bancorporation are John Diesel, pres. of Tenneco, which interlocks with the George Bush oil firm, Zapata Oil Corp., whose chmn John Mackin is a director of Tenneco; Randall Meyer, pres. Exxon; M.A. Wright, former chmn Exxon 1966-76, now chmn Cameron Iron Works.

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Other directors of Halliburton Corp. include

James W. Glanville, former ptnr. Lehman Bros. and Lazard Freres, was with Humble Oil 1945-59, Lehman Bros. 1959-78, had been with Lazard Freres since 1978, and is director of International Mining & Chemical Co. Other directors of Lazard Freres include its senior partner, Michel David Neill, head of the Paris house of Lazard Freres;
Donald C. Cook, SEC financial examiner 1935-45, director Office of Alien Property Custodian for Dept. of justice, 1946-47, commissioner SEC 1949-53, and is now director of ABC, Amerada Hess, chmn of the board American Electric Power and director of General Dynamics, the defense oriented firm;
Felix Rohatyn, horn in Austria, came to U.S. 1942, married Jeannette Streit, daughter of Clarence Streit, head of Union. Now with England; Rohatyn joined Lazard Freres in 1948, is director of Schlumberger, MCA, American Motors, Owens Illinois, Engelhardt Mining & Chemical, Pfizer, ITT, and Rockefeller Bros. Fund; he is chmn Municipal Assistance Corp., which bailed New York City out of its approaching bankruptcy;
Frank C. Zarb, asst. to President of the U.S. 1974-77, administrator Federal Energy Administration 1974-77, now director of Philbro Corp., Engelhard Mining & Chemical, and the Energy Fund.

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The Houston-Cleveland axis interlocks with many political figures, including

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W.Michael Blumenthal, Secretary of the Treasury 1977-79, who interlocks with the axis through Chemical Bank, Equitable Life and the Rockefeller Foundation;
Robert B. Anderson, Secretary of Treasury 1957-61, partner of the law firm of Stroock Stroock & Lavan which administers the Warburg family finances, and interlocks with this group through Equitable Life, ITT and PanAm;
G. William Miller, chmn Federal Reserve Board of Governors 1978-79, Secretary of the Treasury 1979-81, interlocks with this group through Textron and First City Bancorporation, was chmn of U.S.-U.S.S.R. Trade & Economic Council, now director of Federated Dept. Stores whose directors include three directors of Chase Manhattan Bank and interlocks with Citibank and Kuhn, Loeb Co.

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The political power of this Rothschild-controlled axis was demonstrated by the ease with which they financed the campaigns of two governors of supposedly conservative Southern states, John D. Rockefeller IV. in West Virginia, and Charles Robb, son-in-law of Lyndon B. Johnson, in Virginia, heir to the Connally-Brown & Root-First City Bancorp political clout.

The May 1976 staff rept. of the House Banking & Currency Committee noted another Rothschild affiliate (p.60), "The Rothschild banks are affiliated with Manufacturers Hanover of London (in which they hold 20% interest, a merchant bank, and Manufacturers Hanover Trust of N.Y." Manufacturers Hanover recently bought the giant CIT Financial Corp. for $1.6 billion in October, 1983.

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http://biography.you...com/george-bush
Serving until December 1975, Bush proved again to be a popular and accessible "ambassador" (formal diplomatic relations with the People's Republic had not at this time been established). He left this post to accept appointment in January 1976 as director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Bush served as a caretaker director, acting to restore morale within the agency and to deflect public and congressional criticisms of the agency's past role and authority. Resigning as CIA director in January 1977 following the election of Democratic presidential candidate Jimmy Carter, Bush returned to Houston to accept the chairmanship of the First National Bank of Houston.

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I go along with the information below which is in aggreement with the information provided by Peter Dale Scott in unpublished Dallas Conspiracy book.

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Then in 1953 John Loeb's daughter, Ann, married Edgar Bronfman, elder son of Samuel Bronfman, the founder and chief executive of Distillers Corporation--Seagrams, Ltd., undoubtedly the richest man in Canada and among the wealthiest in the world. Bronfman money is not formally a part of Loeb, Rhoades capital, but one of the firm's partners has said, "He's a kind of partner who is awfully important." . . . The Bronfman millions, however, have joined Loeb-Lehman and Bache holdings to make up the largest single holding of stock in New York's Empire Trust Company, which has assets of some $300 million.

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like for example that Clay Shaw was never really on the Board of
Directors of Permindex. According to McAdams, that was a myth promoted
by Oliver Stone.

Well, finally someone actually scanned Shaw's own Who's Who entry in
which he himself noted he was on the board of Permindex. This shut up
McAdams on that forum. So what did McAdams do? He went to another
forum and said the same thing about Shaw—knowing it had been proven
false!

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During the late fifties, in Montreal, Rivard was one of the top officer of Jos Bonanno, the head of an important New York Mafia family. But what is more significant relatively to the JFK assassination is the fact that Rivard was an associate of Santos Trafficante, Jr. in Havana casinos and that he was smuggling arms in Cuba. According to the House Selected Committee on Assassinations, Rivard was one of Castro prisoners for whom Jack Ruby did negotiate in 1959. This fact wasn’t published in HSCA’s report since Rivard’s name was only reproduced in HSCA’s volumes of testimonies. But in 1981, in his book The Plot to Kill the President, G. Robert Blakey, chief counsel of the HSCA, flatly stated that Rivard was one of the prisoners that Jack Ruby tried to get released in 1959. Years after the publication of my book, and after Rivard’s death, his widows confirmed to a Montreal film producer that Rivard indeed was in contact with Ruby. In 1964, after the JFK assassination, Rivard and Bonanno were jailed in Montreal, awaiting extradition to the U.S. Their attorney and high officers of both the Canadian Department of Justice and tthe Immigration Department offered bribe to the lawyer representing the United State in the two extradition cases. The scandal that followed finally forced the resignation of Canada Minister of Justice, Guy Favreau. (Philipps)
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Reading about such friction between Bloomfield and Mantello, Permindex’s Italian director, really made one doubt that the Montreal lawyer was in control of Permindex. Thus, even if we accept the possibility that this company was used to finance the JFK assassination, we should consider that others then Bloomfield were the true controllers behind the shadowy firm. (Philipps)

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Lots of names and material in below archives like:

Louis Mortimer Bloomfield
Hans Seligman
Georges Mantello
Edmund de Rothschild

I will encapsulate it for you. (Gaal)

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After reading the archive material below ,it can be concluded the real head of PERMINDEX is Edmund de Rothschild. Whose family gave GHWB a job in 1977. ==

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((((( ALSO see pg 4 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6017&page=4 )))) ++

THUS GHWB connects to SHAW. ((YES ITS GOOD TO GET THE REAL FACTS !! ))

GHWB and Jack Crihton shared the same lawyer ,Pat Holloway, who also was a lawyer for the conpiratorial Great Southwest Corporation.
"In his memoirs former Cuban intelligence official Fabian Escalante asserted that Nixon had met with an important group of Texas businessmen to arrange outside funding for the operation. Escalante, whose service was vaunted for its U.S. spy network, claimed that the Texas group was headed by George H. W. Bush and Jack Crichton." (Russ Baker)
Empire Trust via Kuhn and Loeb are connected to the Rothschilds. The real head of PERMINDEX is Edmund de Rothschild. Whose family gave GHWB a job in 1977.(Gaal)

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THE PERMINDEX-CIA LINK II

THE PERMINDEX-CIA LINK

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THE PERMINDEX PAPERS IV

THE PERMINDEX PAPERS III

THE PERMINDEX PAPERS II

THE PERMINDEX PAPERS

THE BLOOMFIELD ARCHIVES: A TREASURE THAT SHOULD MA...

WHY THE BLOOMFIELD ARCHIVES SHOULD BE RELEASED

REVELATIONS FROM THE BLOOMFIELD ARCHIVES (4)

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De Dallas a Montreal: La filiere montrealaise dans l'assassinat de JFK (French Edition) Paperback Maurice Philipps

Edited by Steven Gaal, 16 April 2014 - 10:14 PM.

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To summarize from Philipps information and previous post information this thread.
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Understanding PERMINDEX:

Louis Mortimer Bloomfield (takes orders from Mantello),
Hans Seligman (important Banker who is confused as who controls PERMINDEX which he has invested in),
Georges Mantello (who takes orders from
Edmund de Rothschild). Thus Edmund de Rothschild controlled PERMINDEX.
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Jack Crichton and Lewis MacNaughton were both part of Empire Trust and on both on the board of the conspiratorial Great Southwest Corporation (GSW). The Murchisons were also on the board of GSW.
OF NOTE the Murchisons had business dealings with the Suez Canal Company (SCC) The bonds to make SCC formation were put together by the Rothchilds.The Rothschilds controlling Empire Trust. Noting that the National American Bank in New Orleans had Empire Trust member Ernest Carrere (former Navy intelligence officer) and connections to the Oswald family (mother/son).

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We can see a milieu connecting the diverse personalities of Murchison,Shaw,Bush,Crichton,Margurite Oswald and Lee Oswald.

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  • FIRST NATIONAL BANK HOUSTON (ROTHSCHILD) gave job to GHWB
  • LHO gets job with a member of EMPIRE TRUST (Rothschild-ONI) connected bank > Tujague
  • COVER UP IN PART BY Great Southwest Corporation = Which Murchison family had dealings with Rothschild connected Suez Canal Company and had Empire Trust {Rothschild) members on board both McNaughton and Jack Crichton.
Edited by Steven Gaal

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Greg,

Thanks for the link. Interesting and right on. FWIW, I've believed since the 1960s that the U.S. Government has lied to and conducted psychological warfare against the American people as to every, that is every, matter in which the U.S. Government has had a hand.

The tax law, my domain, is just one exhibit. The American people are cajoled every now and then into believing the tax law is being "reformed" for the betterment of the people. That has been total hogwash. The people don't have any chance of determining it's hogwash, however, because the tax law is too dense, complex, and incomprehensible to be understood by anyone. I'm a narrowly focused expert on parts of the tax law. As to certain issues in the parts with which I deal, there are major unanswered questions, questions the IRS should address but never has. Mostly what I and other tax experts observe is gross incompetence on the part of congress and the IRS. But one can be sure that observation is never fed to the American people. Instead the American people are fed a diet of high-profile tax prosecutions in order to keep them terrified and ignorant. It's psychological warfare.

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