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GOLLY SCHOLAR PARKER STRIKES AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ,gaal
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Gaal,
Did you ever hear of the Witness Protection Program? Do you know how it works, who manages it and if it's a complete new identity? It is. I know one participant well.
On a personal note: the extent of your original comment is provided in the quote box above. None of the other SPAM in your message was necessary. You can provide a link to it and if we want to read it we can click and see it. It's how the internet works. Playing with fonts doesn't give your comments any more importance if you overuse that feature - it diminishes your message. Just an FYI

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Hey Jim,

I think the point that some are trying to make is that it's probable that:

LHO was impersonated.

LHO was an intelligence asset or agent.

LHO was wittingly or unwittingly involved in a plot to assassinate JFK.

And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable).

Of your list above I can only quibble with a few comments but for the most part you seem to be preaching to the choir (on this forum anyway).

Chris,

Excellent post.

--Tommy :sun

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And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON
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FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

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And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON

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FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

Yes, Chris.

It was only 10 years.

A veritable blink of the eye.

LOL

--Tommy :sun

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And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON

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FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

Yes, Chris.

It was only 10 years.

A veritable blink of the eye.

LOL

--Tommy :sun

And in 14 days absorb H & L !! ,gaal

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And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON

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FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

Completely debunked as I have shown this to be nothing but a misreading of the Beauregard records coupled with the manipulation of a witness and her memory while disregarding other witnesses. Not going through it all again. It is all explained in the H & L thread.

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Ok Gaal, I'll bite.

I stated "20 year covert program" as a generalization.

You reply with a 10 year "program" life for Lee & Harvey and a Palinesque word-salad about all the other MKULTRA victims.

I don't mind changing my sentence to say "10 year covert program"

Is everything ok now?

PS I read the book.

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Steven Gaal,

Your comment @ post #47 resonates with a thought I've had; viz., that a reason for the Warren Commission's failure to do a good job and for Earl Warren's "Not in your lifetime" comment may have been to conceal the government's knowledge and possible use of the fact that there were two lads, Harvey and Lee, who were superficially alike.

Along these lines, there is reason to believe the FDR administration covered up its foreknowledge of the Pearl Harbor attack in order to conceal the extent to which the U.S. had cracked Japan's naval code.

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And that any or all the statements above can be true without buying into a 20 year covert program by the CIA (or by Angleton, who I assume is the only one capable). // GRAVES QUOTING NEWTON

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FALL 1953 to FALL 1963. THATS 10 years. Guess Mr. Newton is one of the numerous people (like GRAVES/Parker) who talk against H & L without ever reading the book. MANY BELIEVE LHO (DOUBLE PROGRAM) A ONI OPERATIONAL ASSET HANDED OVER TO CIA. PER MK ultra survivor blogs ,said victims selected in NAVY and then put in CIA's MK ULTRA program. gaal

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http://harveyandlee.net/School/School.htm link ARMSTRONG

In the fall of 1953 LEE Oswald entered the 8th grade at PS 44 in New York City, according to school records published by the Warren Commission. But the Warren Commission also published school records that showed (HARVEY) Oswald attended Beauregard Junior High School in New Orleans in the fall of 1953. LEE in New York. HARVEY in New Orleans.

Completely debunked as I have shown this to be nothing but a misreading of the Beauregard records coupled with the manipulation of a witness and her memory while disregarding other witnesses. Not going through it all again. It is all explained in the H & L thread.

Have shown ?? SOME Disagree re Beauregrd. >>>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313133

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Ok Gaal, I'll bite.

I stated "20 year covert program" as a generalization.

You reply with a 10 year "program" life for Lee & Harvey and a Palinesque word-salad about all the other MKULTRA victims.

I don't mind changing my sentence to say "10 year covert program"

Is everything ok now?

PS I read the book.

EVERYTHING OK !!

IF YOU READ THE BOOK ,WHY DID YOU SAY 20 YEARS ????????????????????.,gaal

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I have sent a report to the Mods requesting the off topic posts be removed.

HARTOGS IS AN H & L TOPIC ,COULD IT BE THAT POST BE REMOVED ??

ULTRA STRONG POST # 56 ABOVE CAUSES UPSET OF ANTI H & L CROWD. ONLY ANSWER IS TO SUPRESS., gaal

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The CIA uses and abuses children. Jack Ruby,Richard Allen Davis,Augusto Pinochet ,ect, the CIA will use any type of scum for its said purposes of protecting National Security.

CIA is almost a synonymous word for oil. Oil is essential to national security. To satisfy Saudi Arabian lusts,girls aged 8 to 12 were (are ?? ) kidnapped out of the USA by the CIA.

Richard Allen Davis stated he kidnapped Polly Klass for the money. Davis also stated he was going to abduct an additional girl that evening. Davis delivered Polly Klass to a property controlled by the Knock/Duboc organization,which was part of the famous CIA Drug Tug operation. (see below)

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https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/alt.true-crime/qSNAEIoDADA

THE LORDS OF MARIJUANA AND THE KIDNAPPING OF POLLY KLAAS

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God in heaven heard our cries,
and angel's tears filled somber skies.
Out of anger and out of shame
We quickly sought to place the blame.
It was as though secretly we shared
fear/of a finger pointing in the mirror."

-- a poem, "For Polly,"
By Captain Patrick T. Parks
"Who Killed Polly?" (Chapter 10) by Frank Spiering

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FTR #7 Interview with Frank Spiering

Posted by FTR August 29, 1996

Lis­ten now: Side 1 | Side 2 <<<< AUDIO LINKS

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This inter­view with noted crime writer Frank Spier­ing, author of Who Killed Polly, reveals facts con­cern­ing the Polly Klaas mur­der case that weren’t reported by the main­stream press. Out­rage over Polly’s mur­der led to the pas­sage of the “Three Strikes” law in Cal­i­for­nia. Although Richard Alan Davis cer­tainly kid­napped Polly, it appears unlikely that he killed her or sex­u­ally molested her. Nor did he act alone. Spier­ing reveals that Davis was prob­a­bly work­ing for some very pow­er­ful and influ­en­tial inter­ests and that Polly may very well have been sold into “white slav­ery,” used in a “snuff flick,” used for child pornog­ra­phy pur­poses, or pos­si­bly used in some sort of Satanic rit­ual. Spier­ing presents con­vinc­ing evi­dence that who­ever directed Davis and arranged for Polly’s kid­nap­ping had the sup­port and col­lu­sion of ele­ments of law enforce­ment, includ­ing the FBI. Global “kid­die porn” and “white slav­ery” oper­a­tions are detailed in the inter­view. Spier­ing died shortly after this inter­view was recorded. (Recorded in August of 1996.)

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Drug TUG case

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-20-interview-with-harry-martin/

FTR #20 Interview with Harry Martin

Posted by FTR ⋅ November 11, 1996

Listen now: Side 1 | Side 2 <<<< AUDIO LINKS

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Much media attention was devoted in 1996 to "Dark Alliance," a San Jose Mercury News series discussing apparent links between San Francisco Bay Area connections to the CIA-Contra related cocaine traffic and the crack epidemic afflicting American inner cities and Afro-American communities. In 1989, Napa Sentinel editor Harry Martin drew on contacts within the law enforcement and intelligence communities to document a San Francisco Bay Area connection to the CIA-Contra related drug traffic that goes well beyond the scope of the Mercury News series. Nicknamed "the Drug Tug Case," the series analyzes a dizzying series of connections that came to light during an investigation of the bust of a barge laden with scores of tons of hashish and marijuana in San Francisco Bay. In addition to a revolving-door arrangement in which bankruptcy properties were used to maintain ownership of the Isla Jesusita (a drug and weapons-staging area off the coast of Costa Rica), the operation involved people who figured in the Christic Institute’s ill-fated investigation. The series also covers: the mysterious deaths of people involved in the case; strange legal maneuvering indicative of a cover-up; the rip-off of people who invested in a mortgage company that served as a money-laundering front in the investigation and indications that the cover-up of the case still goes on. In addition, the program touches on some of the other investigative series that Harry has done on the National Security establishment over the years. (Recorded 11/10/96.)

 

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Richard Allen Davis History

http://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/davis-richard-allen.htm

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see details
Who Killed Polly?: The True Story Behind the Abduction and Murder of Polly Klaas Paperback – July, 1995

by Frank Spiering (Author) http://www.amazon.com/Who-Killed-Polly-Behind-Abduction/dp/0964761203

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see SAUDI ARABIA http://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2014/226806.htm & also

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-512-alvin-of-arabia/

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RELATED "THE FINDERS"

I (Steven Gaal) talked to NameBase founder Daniel Brandt who the Finders tried to recruit. He did a many year investigation of the Finders group. CIA to use children as spies ,confirmatory Harvey and Lee. ,gaal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NameBase

 

see RELATED FINDERS POST >>> http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19762&p=313206

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Very informative post Steven. Thank you.

Dawn

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Steve, your post really bothers me.Just because you say the CIA "uses and abuses children", etc. does not mean that every crime was a CIA sponsored one.

And just because someone wrote a self published book about it does not mean it is true.

I remember Polly Klaas' abduction. It scared the hell outta me as a parent. The guy said got her through the window, and in her own home during a sleepover. That poor little one and the poor parents!! What a nightmare!!

Her perpetrator had a long line of criminal activity. I know you say they will hire that kind of scum to do their work, but I can assure you that there are people who like hurting others and do it , without any prompts, without any sponsors.

This whole CIA is responsible for everything has gotten, IMO, out of hand. Some people rape and kill others because they are evil. You can't pin all of that on the CIA.

Davis' confession: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/PAGE-ONE-Davis-Cold-Confession-Revealed-2985095.php

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Steven,

I agree with Kathy's assessment of your work. During the last couple of days I have looked over a large portion of your posts and I cannot find a fault with Kathy's assessment of your work.

I have hidden your most recent post. Aside from it being unsavoury, it has nothing to do with the JFK assassination.

If this is an area you wish to develop and explore we have a forum specifically for "Deep Politics" specifically set up for this kind of material.

James

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