Dan Hardway's Declaration about the HSCA

[Scott Tame]

Michael and Jim

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15699&page=6

In post #87 of the above thread, Michael Hogan posts a quote from "Last Word" which may be the remark you are referring to. I think the episode from the debate was mentioned in "Plausible Denial".

[Michael Walton]

Scott - thanks so much that's the one. I'm posting it here so others can read it inline.

Thanks for the positive effect your efforts and career have had on history and the truth.

On page 221 of Last Word, you wrote:

Events were moving quickly as Sprague and Tanenbaum were getting close to the truth. (David) Phillips was on the verge of confessing
that the entire story the CIA had told to the Warren Commission was a fabrication, that in fact Oswald had never been to Mexico City
and that the story was created by the CIA to prevent Warren from conducting an honest investigation. Phillips later made those specific
admissions in public. His confession demonstrated conclusively that the CIA, in September 1963, was falsely creating a fiction that
could and would be used to implicate Oswald in a crime that would not be committed until November 1963; this guilty foreknowledge,
known as the law of scienter, clearly demonstrated the CIA's complicity, not merely as accessories after the fact, but as accessories
before the fact. That difference is most significant.

[Dan Doyle]

OSWALD in MEXICO
Seeks a Cuban Visa

Topic: Oswald in Mexico

A presentation given in Rio de Janeiro, August 1995.

By Arturo Rodriguez
(Former Cuban Security Agent)

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_001-025/doc0017.html

"Since the moments after the Kennedy assassination, our embassy's personnel in Mexico noticed, with the exception of Azcue who was back in Cuba, that the accused assassin was the same person that had visited them in September. Alfredo Mirabal informed his Ministry officially, Lara only commented about it, given the small participation they had in the events and knowing of the report made by Mirabal, an official superior to them.

On his part, Azcue in Cuba, did not recognize Oswald's photos published by the press as the person who visited the Cuban Consulate in Mexico.

This contradiction between Azcue and Mirabal, were made evident in statements given by both to the investigators of the Select Committee in 1978.

As for Mrs. Duran, she recognized Oswald from the first moment as the person that she helped in the Cuban Consulate at the end of September 1963."

This document, if it's authentic, provides evidence from the Cuban government of Oswald's(or a double) presence at the Cuban Embassy in September of 1963. The veracity of the entire MC episode is hard to sort out 53 years later; especially so given the conflicting histories. And the bus trip didn't have to happen to get LHO to MC and back( flying works). The larger purpose of the MC trip was to further establish LHO as pro-Castro and point toward Cuba as adding and abetting him in his assigned actions for 11/22/63(which I don't think included the assassination of JFK)............ thereby creating a pretext for US military action against Cuba.

[James DiEugenio]

Yes, he did say that about the Soviet Embassy.

But I think that is a bit different than what Mike is saying.

[Scott Tame]

Phillips was referring to the Soviet Embassy in "Plausible Denial". In "Last Word", Lane has him claiming he was never in Mexico City. Assuming the above quote is accurate.

[James DiEugenio]

Dan:

MIrabel is the only one who says it was Oswald.

And its not true that Duran said it was him also. There are numerous places where she said it was a short, blond guy.

But there is also Oscar Contreras who says it was not Oswald.

[Dan Doyle]

Jim,

Any idea what happened to LHO's 1963 Cuban visa applications(4 copies) with his photograph stapled to each of them. Duran says that she filed one with his photograph locally at the Cuban consulate in MC and sent another with his photo to Havana (HSCA 1978)? Seems like if these have or could be produced, it would answer some questions. Given the politics involved, why would Cuba not want to produce these documents?

[Dan Doyle]

[James DiEugenio]

Dan:

If you look at the Fonzi and Armstrong books you will see the problems with this piece of evidence.

First, we are to believe that if it was Oswald, he failed to bring a photo of himself to MC. Even though he knew he was applying for a visa. Even though he was familiar with the process.

Therefore, Duran had to send him out to find a passport photo machine.

Well, when the FBI investigated this incident, they went to every passport photo office in a five mile radius of the Cuban consulate. Not one of them recalled seeing Oswald come in the store.

Third, on a secret mission to MC, Eddie Lopez found out that the CIA had planted two assets inside the Cuban consulate. As Fonzi writes, "That may be relevant to the fact that, in the end, the only proof that the real Oswald was inside the Cuban Consulate were his photograph and his signature on his visa application. Anyone working inside the consulate would have had access to the drawer in which Duran had files Oswald's visa application before copy was sent to Cuba." (pgs. 293-94)

Further, MIrabel had the worst view of "Oswald". It was from a distance inside an adjacent office. After Tony Summers showed Duran a film of Oswald in New Orleans, she said it was not him. In referring to her own notes of the incident, she said the guy was not very much taller than herself--she was 5' 4"--with blond hair and blue or green eyes. (p. 289)

Edited July 13, 2016 by James DiEugenio