Cliff Varnell Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I miss Obama right now. In North Dakota. The guy is AWOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Trivia question: Where did Jackie and the kids spend the night after the assassination? The Georgetown pad of W. Averell Harriman. Takes a bit of street smarts to appreciate just how sinister that may have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 The Trump Team is subjecting Mitt Romney to much public humiliation. Given how much influence Mormons have within the National Security State I'd reckon this is a bad idea. Just say'n... Whoa! Castro just died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) Did W. Averell Harriman meet Fidel Castro in the Soviet Union in the spring of 1963? Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics 3 http://www.history-matters.com/pds/DP3_Chapter5.htm#_ftn41 <quote on> On April 3 and April 11 Khrushchev and Kennedy had exchanged secret letters that in part concerned Cuba. At the same time a highly-publicized meeting of eight Presidium members without Khrushchev prompted rumors that Khrushchev would soon be ousted. Then on April 11 the leading hard-liner, Frol Kozlov, suffered a near-fatal seizure; and disappeared forever from Soviet politics. Khrushchev met the next day with Norman Cousins, editor of the Saturday Review, and passed the informal message that he was ready for a "fresh start" with Kennedy. Kennedy received Cousins at the White House on April 22, and Harriman left for Moscow soon after to meet Khrushchev. Fidel Castro also left on April 26 for the Soviet Union at Khrushchev's invitation... ...The simultaneous convergence on Moscow of Harriman and Castro was thus preceded by signals that progress in accommodation between them could be brokered by Khrushchev (who had every motive vis-a-vis his own hard-liners to be successful in this respect). But what looked hopeful to some evoked paranoia in others. Soon the right-wing journalists Robert Allen and Paul Scott, who wrote from sources in military intelligence, wrote a column under the provocative title, "Did Harriman Meet Castro in Russia?" They reported that the Senate Preparedness Subcommittee, chaired by the pro-military Senator John Stennis, was investigating the allegation that the two men had met "around April 28, in either Moscow or Murmansk" (where both were visiting). Castro allegedly was seeking diplomatic recognition in exchange for a reduction in Soviet troop levels. The article was placed in the Congressional Record by Bruce Alger, a right-wing Congressman from Dallas. Though inadequate to demonstrate that such a face-to-face meeting occurred, the article (together with the reprinting of it in the Congressional Record) is an important symptom of the political opposition developing in Washington to the process of accommodation. <quote off> Edited November 26, 2016 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 17 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: Castro just died. We finally got him! Was it an exploding cigar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Just now, Ron Ecker said: We finally got him! Was it an exploding cigar? Hair fell out, my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Newton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Cliff Varnell said: I miss Obama right now. In North Dakota. The guy is AWOL. Cliff, I think this is one of the most shameful things I have ever seen. I hope the events surrounding DAPL taint his legacy forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Chris Newton said: Cliff, I think this is one of the most shameful things I have ever seen. I hope the events surrounding DAPL taint his legacy forever. What can Obama do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Newton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Sandy Larsen said: What can Obama do? Certainly more than let it "play out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) But what? I'm wondering what people expect him to do. Give moral support? At least Obama is withholding approval for the crossing under the Missouri River reservoir. It's only a matter of time before Trump approves that. Edited November 26, 2016 by Sandy Larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Sandy Larsen said: But what? I'm wondering what people expect him to do. Give moral support? Obama is withholding approval for the crossing under the Missouri River reservoir. It's only a matter of time before Trump gives that. The protesters deserve protection from law enforcement. Instead they're getting routed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: The protesters deserve protection from law enforcement. Instead they're getting routed. They deserve it. But who would provide it? Other law enforcers? This is a no-win situation for Obama. And unfortunately for the protesters, nobody with any power is on their side. Edited November 26, 2016 by Sandy Larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Newton Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said: At least Obama is withholding approval for the crossing under the Missouri River reservoir. It's only a matter of time before Trump approves that. They are working on this pipeline and the shaft that will take them under the Missouri right now, no work has stopped awaiting "approval". jump ahead to 2:30 mark to see work in progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Chris Newton said: 3 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said: At least Obama is withholding approval for the crossing under the Missouri River reservoir. It's only a matter of time before Trump approves that. They are working on this pipeline and the shaft that will take them under the Missouri right now, no work has stopped awaiting "approval". jump ahead to 2:30 mark to see work in progress But Chris, that drill hole that we see is pointed away from the river, not toward it. Cool drone video though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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