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John Butler

Who was Richard O. “Dick” Bothun?

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Ike Altgens appears in Bothun photo 4. Do you suspect some photo hanky panky there, John?

Yes, I do.  It would be hard to prove.  I've actually tried to do that with looking at other photos showing the opposite side of Elm at the same time.  Cancellare, if my memory serves me.  I couldn't find him in other photos.  That may simply be a time factor or different angles factor.

There are the shadow problems in Bothun 4 indicating alteration.

I have noticed the same thing about Bothun/Altgens photos.  It's not really suspicious they were in the same places at the same time.  But, everything else about Bothun makes you want to question that.

Why would Bothun give all of his photos to Altgens home base, the Dallas Morning News?  Why was he never questioned by anybody?  What was Jack White doing by covering up what he knew for decades?   

 

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Some additional similarities between Richard Bothun & James 'Ike' Altgens, John:

- While both photographers were present with cameras at the JFK ambush crime scene, neither photographer photographed the TSBD spectators/police gathered at the southern entrance post-ambush.

- Neither photographer photographed the rail yards, the Pullman trains parked in the rail yard area behind the north pergola, the triple underpass or the southern knoll area post-assassination.

- Neither photographer photographed post-ambush arrests (the 3 tramps & Larry Florer)

- Neither photographer found the rush of spectators converging on the north grassy knoll or the Newmans shielding their children at the bottom of the north pergola newsworthy or interesting enough to bother photographing them (Ike Altgens walked right past the Newmans & was photographed standing in front of them on the Elm Street sidewalk. He knew they were there).

- As the motorcade press cars moved away from the concrete divider in front of the TSBD towards the triple underpass, Richard Bothun is nowhere to be seen in the film footage shot by Malcolm Couch. On the other hand, the footage shot by James Darnell shows Ike Altgens on the Elm Street sidewalk below the north pergola with no Richard Bothum in sight, suggesting only Ike Altgens was present in either direction, not Bothum.

The temptation may be presenting itself for some to theorize that Ike Altgens was using the fake name & person of 'Richard Bothun' as a means to make more money from his pictures that contractual obligations with the Associated Press may have prevented. Songwriters, musicians & song performers (before & beyond Benny Goodman to The Beatles) have been using that slick way to bypass contractual obligations & restrictions since the beginning of recording technology.

If, indeed, you have found a visual mistake concerning Ike Altgens appearing twice in the Z-film frames, may I be among the first to congratulate your sharp eyes, John. Any visual proof that the Z-film was the victim of tampering is important to the history of the JFK cold case.

Unfortunately, you'll probably invite a host of debunkers for your great observation, John. I can almost hear them pouring over their visual collections feverishly searching for ammo to hurl at you (lol).

Respectfully & Sincerely,

Brad Milch

PS: Speaking of visuals debunkers, one or two of them claimed in your Altgens6 thread that the darkened window of Nellie Connally raised up about half-way was caused by a building reflection in Altgens photo #6. If one takes a look at the Jim Walker photos of JFK & entourage in their parade car on Main Street (a couple of blocks before Dealey Plaza) found at the Sixth Floor Museum, they might notice that the photographer's line of sight & distance from the parade car is very close to that of Ike Altgens in Altgens6. Although surrounded by tall buildings, Nellie's window is crystal clear. The closest tall buildings opposite Nellie's window in Altgens 6 would be the Federal building & a portion of the old red courthouse, both considerably further away from JFK's parade car than the buildings surrounding it in the Jim Walker motorcade photos.

Debunkers don't always have the correct, truthful answers.

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Brad,

- Neither photographer photographed the rail yards, the Pullman trains parked in the rail yard area behind the north pergola, the triple underpass or the southern knoll area post-assassination, etc.

Ike Altgens was a photo editor for the Dallas Morning News.  I believe his photo-taking job was done once the assassination was over and his real job began afterwards.  Altgens 5, 6, and 7 are fakes. 

What does a photo editor do?  He takes part or parts of one picture and adds them to another.  He inserts objects into photos.  The purpose is to tell a new and different story.

Take Altgens 7 as an example.  If you add the 10 or so railroad men and a portion of the railroad bridge to a photo that does not have railroad men on the bridge but, has the presidential vehicle approaching the railroad bridge, then what do you have?  Altgens 7.  It's not a hard task for a photo editor.  It's basic 101 stuff.

Think about Officer J. W. Foster.  He said he allowed the railroad men on the bridge in testimony.  I don't believe it for a minute.  I believe Officer Foster would have CYA in that situation.  If he allowed railroad men on the bridge one could of perhaps spit or urinated on President Kennedy's head as the vehicle passed under the bridge.  He would of made sure nothing could affect his career or well being.

There are other frames and photos that show no one on the railroad bridge.

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You can see Officer Foster with his DPD white hat off the railroad bridge and the railroad workers are to his left (screen right). 

Whose correct Bond or Altgens 7?

 

 

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- As the motorcade press cars moved away from the concrete divider in front of the TSBD towards the triple underpass, Richard Bothun is nowhere to be seen in the film footage shot by Malcolm Couch. On the other hand, the footage shot by James Darnell shows Ike Altgens on the Elm Street sidewalk below the north pergola with no Richard Bothum in sight, suggesting only Ike Altgens was present in either direction, not Bothum.

That is an excellent observation.  Dick Bothun is not the only character used by the photo editors to plant photos into the visual record.  I would take a good look at Phillip Willis.  He is a very suspicious character. 

Your observation above just about nails the notion that Dick Bothurn probably did not take the pictures credited to him.

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If, indeed, you have found a visual mistake concerning Ike Altgens appearing twice in the Z-film frames, may I be among the first to congratulate your sharp eyes, John. Any visual proof that the Z-film was the victim of tampering is important to the history of the JFK cold case.

Twinned Altgens is just one of many things wrong about the Zapruder film.

The biggest clustering of mistakes is on the SW corner of Elm and Houston.  There are two different versions of reality presented in Elsie Dorman and Zapruder concerning the SW corner.  The number of people is different.  The number of photographers there is different.  There are groups of people (as many as five) in one film and not the other.  There are many couples (about 5 couples) extra in an area the Zapruder film shows only two people then after the gap 4 people. 

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On 1/29/2017 at 8:53 AM, John Butler said:

Alastair,

Glad you brought up Altgen's bag.  He is accredited with taking only 8 photos.  I've always wondered why such a small number of photos?  He was a professional.  He had his bag with extra cameras, lens, and plenty of film.  He went out to Dealey Plaza before noon.  Why not more photos?  Good question, I guess.

Your dead on about the ageing process.  People were still asking me for an ID when I bought a beer at 26 yrs old.

Been in the newspaper business for 30 years. If I sent Ike Altegens out to shoot the president and he came back with eight frames, I would have fired him on the spot. Once the film is loaded into the camera, it is gone. No reason not to shoot everything.

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Thanks Andrew,

Its nice too have someone agree about the suspicious nature of Altgens.  I always thought as a photographer one would take a lot of photos and then select the better ones.

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James 'Ike' Altgens & his Dealey Plaza story before, during & post assassination invites interest & intrigue. With police responders feverishly searching the rail yards for an assassin or team of shooters, Ike is seen in the Darnell film calmly standing on the Elm Street sidewalk in front of the Newman family shielding their kids as if he's waiting for someone to drive up to him.

To linger in Dealey plaza for 5 minutes after the ambush of JFK, avoid the police search & the upset spectators & make his way to his office in the Dallas Morning News building, develop his photos (or hand them off for developing, depending on the version of Altgens' handling of his exclusive photos one reads & believes) & get Altgens photo 6 out on the newswire by 1 PM CST is super fast work for a middle aged man lugging around a camera bag loaded with cameras, accessories & film.

Then, CBS TV news sits on the sensational photos for several hours before showing a couple of them on national TV.

There's more....supposedly Altgens was sent to photograph the scene at Parkland hospital after getting his photos transmitted via newswire.

I was 11 when JFK was assassinated; I'm 64 now & still waiting to see an Ike Altgens photo he took at Parkland hospital.

Ike Altgens & his wife both died mysterious deaths.

Sincerely,

Brad Milch

 

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I had heard that Altgens and his wife died mysteriously. You don't hear much, if anything about that. Does anyone know the circumstances of their deaths?

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The question is "Is the photo sent out at 1:00 CST the same photo shown on the CBS news at 6:35 or a substitute.  They could have sent many photos or updated photos to the AP before 6:00.

The alterations to Altgens 6 required more then just a few minutes.

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Thanks Brad,

Perfect explanation.  Now I can say with some confidence that Altgens more than likely did not go to Parkland.

I have always wanted to say that.

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I can never seem to find the Hester's where I think they should be.

 

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