Paul Trejo Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said: Very clever non-answer, Word Twister. Verbal Smoke and Mirrors is what you're all about. Regards, -- Tommy Tommy, Not clever. Not twisting words. You're asking about Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City -- or you're making JOKES. Which is it? Look -- you're clearly married to your theory that Eusebio Azcue really thought this KGB agent was Lee Harvey Oswald (and that the KGB was impersonating Oswald). All you really have as evidence is that Azcue and Duran said that Oswald was "rubio." That's weak, Tommy -- really weak. The FACT remains that Duran and Azcue have descriptions that BREAK OFF after that point. The FACT remains that Duran and Azcue were BOTH in the same room with Oswald and his application with his PHOTOGRAPHS. The FACT remains that Duran and Azcue were both having trouble handling Oswald. So, he was easy to remember. The FACT remains that Duran was terrorized by the Mexican Police to beat a confession out of her that the Communists killed JFK, and that she was part of the Communist plot. The FACT remains that Azcue was terrified of the same treatment by the Mexican Police. You are leaving out all these FACTS, Tommy, and you are obsessed with this little word, "rubio," because it would be a Major Discovery if this skinny KGB agent turned out to be in the center of the JFK assassination plot. Right? Well, it's WEAK, dude. What ELSE have you got? Regards, --Paul Trejo Edited April 6, 2017 by Paul Trejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said: Tommy, Not clever. Not twisting words. You're asking about Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City -- or you're making JOKES. Which is it? Look -- you're clearly married to your theory that Eusebio Azcue really thought this KGB agent was Lee Harvey Oswald (and that the KGB was impersonating Oswald). All you really have as evidence is that Azcue and Duran said that Oswald was "rubio." That's weak, Tommy -- really weak. The FACT remains that Duran and Azcue have descriptions that BREAK OFF after that point. The FACT remains that Duran and Azcue were BOTH in the same room with Oswald and his application with his PHOTOGRAPHS. The FACT remains that Duran and Azcue were both having trouble handling Oswald. So, he was easy to remember. The FACT remains that Duran was terrorized by the Mexican Police to beat a confession out of her that the Communists killed JFK, and that she was part of the Communist plot. The FACT remains that Azcue was terrified of the same treatment by the Mexican Police. You are leaving out all these FACTS, Tommy, and you are obsessed with this little word, "rubio," because it would be a Major Discovery if this skinny KGB agent turned out to be in the center of the JFK assassination plot. Right? Well, it's WEAK, dude. What ELSE have you got? Regards, --Paul Trejo Word Twister Do us a big favor. Disappear. -- Tommy You and Kelleyanne Conway. I'm not necessarily asking about Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City. What I AM asking is whether or not the "Oswald" that Duran and Azcue dealt with face-to-face on 9/027/63 should be interpreted by us as having been blond (rubio)- haired, or brown (castaño, castaña)-haired. We do know that Duran said that he was about the same height (5' 3.5") as her, and that he had "blond" (or "rubio") hair. We also know that Azcue said "Oswald" was "blond, dark blond" ("rubio" or "rubio oscuro"), thin-bodied, and had a very thin face. The blond or dark blond hair, the short stature, the thin body, and the very thin face tell me that Duran and Azcue had dealt face-to-face with Nikolai Leonov, not David Sanchez Morales, one of his AMOTs, Lee Harvey Oswald, or even HARVEY Oswald for that matter (lol). -- Tommy Edited April 6, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Thomas Graves said: Word Twister Do us a big favor. Disappear. -- Tommy You and Kelleyanne Conway. I'm not necessarily asking about Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City. What I AM asking is whether or not the "Oswald" that Duran and Azcue dealt with face-to-face on 9/027/63 should be interpreted by us as having been blond (rubio)- haired, or brown (castaño, castaña)-haired. We do know that Duran said that he was about the same height (5' 3.5") as her, and that he had "blond" (or "rubio") hair. We also know that Azcue said "Oswald" was "blond, dark blond" ("rubio" or "rubio oscuro"), thin-bodied, and had a very thin face. The blond or dark blond hair, the short stature, the thin body, and the very thin face tell me that Duran and Azcue had dealt face-to-face with Nikolai Leonov, not David Sanchez Morales, one of his AMOTs, Lee Harvey Oswald, or even HARVEY Oswald for that matter (lol). -- Tommy Tommy, IMHO you're using a string and a toothpick of data -- and nothing else -- and constructing this grand CIA/KGB cloak-and-dagger fantasy fiction. It's obvious where it leads -- this CIA rogue cooperates with the KGB to assassinate JFK and blame Lee Harvey Oswald. Sorry, it's just more fantasy fiction drama. The TV is full of it. Both Silvia Duran and Eusebio Aszcue sat down with Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City's Cuba Consulate on 9/27/1963. They had his photographs. They argued. Deal with it. The Lopez Report is historical data. But you want fantasy fiction. So who's the Word Twister? Regards, --Paul Trejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Paul Trejo said: Tommy, IMHO you're using a string and a toothpick of data -- and nothing else -- and constructing this grand CIA/KGB cloak-and-dagger fantasy fiction. It's obvious where it leads -- this CIA rogue cooperates with the KGB to assassinate JFK and blame Lee Harvey Oswald. Sorry, it's just more fantasy fiction drama. The TV is full of it. Both Silvia Duran and Eusebio Aszcue sat down with Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City's Cuba Consulate on 9/27/1963. They had his photographs. They argued. Deal with it. The Lopez Report is historical data. But you want fantasy fiction. So who's the Word Twister? Regards, --Paul Trejo Dear Word Twister, And you consider yourself to be an expert on the Spanish language? LOL Okay, maybe so. "Como sea, caballero." (What ever, dude.) But if so, why do you twist it so? Answer: To support your "CT". But now you've you've met your match, haven't you, "Torcedor De Palabras"? (Word Player; i.e. Word Twister) -- Tommy Edited April 7, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Thomas Graves said: Dear Word Twister, And you consider yourself to be an expert on the Spanish language? LOL Okay, maybe so. "Como sea, caballero." (What ever, dude.) But if so, why do you twist it so? Answer: To support your "CT". But now you've you've met your match, haven't you, "Torcedor De Palabras"? (Word Player; i.e. Word Twister) -- Tommy Tommy, I don't twist words; I use them. General Walker led a Minutemen militia in Dallas to kill JFK. The KGB had nothing to do with it. The word "rubio" cannot save your weak CT. Regards --Paul Trejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Paul Trejo said: Tommy, I don't twist words; I use them. General Walker led a Minutemen militia in Dallas to kill JFK. The KGB had nothing to do with it. The word "rubio" cannot save your weak CT. Regards --Paul Trejo Torcedor De Palabras, Una broma? Is that a joke? -- Tommy PS Did Sylvia Duran say "Oswald" had blue eyes? Nikolai Leonov Edited April 8, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) Dear Word Twister, Sylvia Duran described the Oswald she dealt with as being "blond" and having "blue eyes". Eusebio Azcue said he was "blond, (maybe) dark blond". You would have us believe that when they said blond ("rubio"), they weren't talking about "Oswald's" hair color per se, but about his overall light complexion and hair color compared to the dark skin and "jet black" hair of most "Mexicans". In other words, you claim that by their use of the word "rubio" we cannot tell if they meant he had light blond hair, dark blond hair, light brown hair, medium brown hair, or dark blond hair -- just that his hair was lighter in color than "jet black". Why, then, did Azcue say that he was "blond, (maybe) dark blond"? Do you really think he meant that "Oswald" was light-skinned, (maybe) dark-light-skinned? LOL -- Tommy Mexico City-based KGB officer Nikolai Leonov Edited April 8, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) This is still going on?.... You guys are a marriage made in heaven.....or maybe Limbo. I would only hope to find a mate whose personality would complement mine the way you two complement each other. Ok, not really Good luck!, For the thread, and the future! P.S. I'll leave each of you to ponder which emoticon is whose. Just kidding! Edited April 8, 2017 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: This is still going on?.... You guys are a marriage made in heaven.....or maybe Limbo. I would only hope to find a mate whose personality would complement mine the way you two complement each other. Ok, not really Good luck!, For the thread, and the future! P.S. I'll leave each of you to ponder which emoticon is whose. Just kidding! Dear Cupid, No need to get your knickers in a twist. -- Tommy Cute photo, btw! Edited April 8, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Not at all, it's so refreshing to see 2 people building a" thread" to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Not at all, it's so refreshing to see 2 people building a" thread" to the future. How cogent. Indeed how ....... Witty! Kinda. Edited April 8, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 And may your relationship survive, long after this thread is over. And then beyond Oct 26th, 2017! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 56 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: And may your relationship survive, long after this thread is over. And then beyond Oct 26th, 2017! Thank you, Sweetie Pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) On 4/7/2017 at 5:33 PM, Thomas Graves said: Dear Paul "Word Twister" Trejo, Sylvia Duran described the Oswald she dealt with as being "blond" and having "blue eyes". Eusebio Azcue said he was "blond, (maybe) dark blond". You would have us believe that when they said blond ("rubio"), they weren't talking about "Oswald's" hair color per se, but about his overall light complexion and hair color compared to the dark skin and "jet black" hair of most "Mexicans". In other words, you claim that by their use of the word "rubio" we cannot tell if they meant he had light blond hair, dark blond hair, light brown hair, medium brown hair, or dark blond hair -- just that his hair was lighter in color than "jet black". Why, then, did Azcue say that he was "blond, (maybe) dark blond"? Do you really think he meant that "Oswald" was light-skinned, (maybe) dark-light-skinned? LOL -- Tommy Mexico City-based KGB officer Nikolai Leonov bumped because the KGB would never think of doing such a thing and anyway because Putin's such a nice guy and because former KGB General Nikolai Leonov (see above) is a Putin supporter and a member of the Russian parliament and because I'm 1/4 Ukrainian, I suppose. Ukraine, you know, that "neo-fascist" country that Putin started "secretly" invading three years ago because, well, George Soros and Killery-Shillery Clinton and the Illuminati forced his hand, didn't they! I mean, I mean, I mean ... that's what all of the "Left" and "Left-Center" news sources with "Mixed" (or worse) factual reporting according to mediabiasfactcheck. com tell me, so it must be true, especially since it fits in so nice-and-comfy with my "Deep State" / "National Security State" world view! (lol) Edited April 10, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Trejo Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 On 4/10/2017 at 5:33 PM, Thomas Graves said: bumped because the KGB would never think of doing such a thing and anyway because Putin's such a nice guy and because former KGB General Nikolai Leonov (see above) is a Putin supporter and a member of the Russian parliament and because I'm 1/4 Ukrainian, I suppose. Ukraine, you know, that "neo-fascist" country that Putin started "secretly" invading three years ago because, well, George Soros and Killery-Shillery Clinton and the Illuminati forced his hand, didn't they! I mean, I mean, I mean ... that's what all of the "Left" and "Left-Center" news sources with "Mixed" (or worse) factual reporting according to mediabiasfactcheck. com tell me, so it must be true, especially since it fits in so nice-and-comfy with my "Deep State" / "National Security State" world view! (lol) Tommy, This thread has become a bore. Regards, --Paul Trejo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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