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From Thomas Mallon, author of Mrs. Paine's Garage, a disquisition on the JBS, plus a small review of the JBS-unaffiliated biography John Birch: A Life, a level-headed book that I happen to be reading now and can recommend to those curious about the life behind the legend.  The JFK assassination is discussed, interestingly, in Mallon's article:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/01/11/a-view-from-the-fringe

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On ‎3‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 5:46 PM, David Andrews said:

From Thomas Mallon, author of Mrs. Paine's Garage, a disquisition on the JBS, plus a small review of the JBS-unaffiliated biography John Birch: A Life, a level-headed book that I happen to be reading now and can recommend to those curious about the life behind the legend.  The JFK assassination is discussed, interestingly, in Mallon's article:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/01/11/a-view-from-the-fringe

David,

Great article.   Let me quote just a bit of it here, because Mallon speaks to a Walker-did-it CT.   Here is a bit to whet the appetite:  

------- Begin Extract from Thomas Mallon: A View from the Fringe: The John Birch Society and the rise of the radical right. (New Yorker, 2016) ------

For fifty years, the judgment that the far right was at least indirectly guilty of Kennedy’s killing has been a mainstream position.

From William Manchester’s “The Death of a President” (1967) to Bill Minutaglio and Steven Davis’s “Dallas 1963” (2013), the argument is made that a hateful climate created by extreme conservatives — particularly General Edwin Walker, a Dallas resident and perhaps the most famous Bircher after Welch — somehow hastened the President’s killing. 

It simply does not matter that Lee Harvey Oswald, a defector to the Soviet Union, had espoused an ill-tutored form of Marxism from the time he was a teen-ager, or that seven months before killing Kennedy, Oswald, with the same rifle, shot at and nearly succeeded in killing Walker. 

In April, we are supposed to believe, he was shooting at hate; by November, he was shooting from it.

J. Allen Broyles, in a book published the year after Kennedy’s death, “The John Birch Society: Anatomy of a Protest,” wrote, “The assassination of President Kennedy brought home to all thoughtful people our laxity in allowing the creation of an atmosphere in which assassination is not only possible, but almost expected.”

Broyles makes three references to General Walker in his slender volume, but none to Oswald’s attempt on his life.

“Communism killed Kennedy” remains one of the few defensible statements that the John Birch Society ever issued. Of course, Welch added his own evidence-free explanation of how Oswald received his orders from the American portion of the international Communist conspiracy.

------- End Extract from Thomas Mallon: A View from the Fringe: The John Birch Society and the rise of the radical right. (New Yorker, 1/11/2016) ------

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

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Sounds like an interesting read. Another book to add to the ever growing list.

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David,

Having posted excerpts from Thomas Mallon's 2016 article, A View from the Fringe, I have a few comments to make about it.

Mallon claims that for 50 years the CT that the Radical Right killed JFK "has been a mainstream position."

  • Evidently Mallon never heard of the Warren Report or the HSCA.

Mallon actually names General Edwin Walker in his citation of the Minutaglio/Davis book, Dallas 1963 (2013) as a feature of the JFK murder.  This was promising.

Mallon then quickly throws cold water on the idea, saying, "It simply does not matter that Lee Harvey Oswald, a defector to the Soviet Union, had espoused an ill-tutored form of Marxism from the time he was a teen-ager..."

  • I will interrupt this sentence to scrutinize Mallon's assumptions.  Lee Harvey Oswald was a defector to the Soviet Union who (1) never surrendered his US passport; (2) never applied for Soviet citizenship; (3) never joined the Communist Party; (4) returned to the USA with the blessing of the US State Department.
  • Further, Lee Harvey Oswald's so-called "Marxism" was a joke.  Lee was a neglected child, and one psychiatrist said Lee had "rage" issues.  What Marxism?
  • If Lee was really a Marxist, he would have joined one of the many varieties of Communist Parties in the USSR or the USA in the 1960's.
  • But he didn't.   This is because Marxism for Lee Harvey Oswald was a pose, a hobby, a way to keep others at a distance -- not a real political position.
  • LHO did like to claim to be morally superior because he was poor -- and he did believe that capitalism was the reason his family was poor.
  • At the same time, LHO didn't like his family much, either.  For example, for Thanksgiving, 1962, the three brothers didn't invite their mother -- from down the street.
  • Nor did the brothers see each other more than once every three years on average.
  • So, LHO was emotionally hurting, and needed therapy -- but he wasn't a Revolutionary by any stretch of the imagination.
  • Nor was LHO a raving maniac.  He was just a young, 23 year old, high-school dropout who couldn't spell or drive a car -- and hated his minimum wage jobs.
  • As all of the 19 Russian Expatriates in Fort Worth and Dallas who didn't like LHO said of him -- there is no way this guy was a killer.
  • Marina said the same. . Robert Oswald said the same.  Ruth Paine said the same.   Michael Paine said the same.
  • Of course, the Warren Commission silenced all of them.

Mallon continues: "It simply does not matter that...seven months before killing Kennedy, Oswald, with the same rifle, shot at and nearly succeeded in killing Walker. 

  • Mallon simply presumes that Oswald killed JFK with his rifle.  It never enters his article to question that.
  • I believe LHO shot at General Walker too -- and so did General Walker -- but not as a "Marxist" killer.
  • LHO was under the influence of George DeMohrenschildt and Volkmar Schmidt when he took his potshot at General Walker.
  • The Russian Expatriate Community was stridently Anti-communist and Anti-fascist.  George DeM hated General Walker.
  • LHO was an impressionable boy of 23.  There's the real root of it.

Mallon continues:  "In April, we are supposed to believe, he was shooting at hate; by November, he was shooting from it."

  • What's so hard to believe?  LHO was not a Marxist, not an ideologue of any kind.
  • Jeff Caufield (2015) showed that LHO was a right-winger.
  • This was also shown by Jim Garrison (1967) when he showed LHO worked at 544 Camp Street, with Guy Banister.
  • And that the FPCC in New Orleans was 100% Fake.
  • LHO seems to have been easily pushed around by older men who took an interest in him.
  • Even J. Edgar Hoover said the same to the Warren Commission.
  • LHO shot at Walker because George DeM drove him to it (because George was older and took an interest in him).
  • LHO didn't shoot at JFK at all. 
  • The guys at 544 Camp Street were involved up to their necks.  Jim Garrison showed this, too.

Mallon says: "'Communism killed Kennedy' remains one of the few defensible statements that the John Birch Society ever issued."

  • This, of course, was exactly what Guy Banister wanted the world to say.
  • Guy Banister himself was a member of the John Birch Society
  • George DeMohrenschildt hated the John Birch Society -- as most Russian Expatriates did.
  • The conflict in LHO's immature brain started there.
  • Trusting George DeM to shoot at General Walker was the second biggest mistake LHO ever made. 
  • Trusting Guy Banister was the biggest.
  • Communism didn't kill JFK.   A Lone Nut didn't kill JFK. 
  • That leaves only one logical alternative: The US Radical Right killed JFK.
  • The US Radical Right carefully framed LHO to look like a real Communist -- to try to blame Communism for the JFK assassination.
  • And Thomas Mallon fell for it.

Regards,
 --Paul Trejo

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I put that up just for you, Paul baby.  Because everybody believes Thomas Mallon.

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5 hours ago, David Andrews said:

I put that up just for you, Paul baby.  Because everybody believes Thomas Mallon.

David,

Thanks, it was fun.  iIRC, Mallon was an able fiction writer with no experience in JFK literature until he wrote Mrs. Paine's Garage (2002).

As a first effort it was not really bad.  I still like his style.  

But as a researcher, he still has a lot of reading to do.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

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Paul - I still simply cannot believe how you can somehow in your mind reconcile the notion that Oswald, while publicly stirring things up as a Communist in NO, how the plotters made a fake trip for him down in MC with the idea that he was cavorting with a Russian assassin, was a nobody. Yet you still believe, mind-bogglingly, that he was actually an unwitting right-winger who shot at Ed Walker.

And then to top if off, Oswald himself said - when he knew the jig was up - stated for all to hear and be recorded - that the only reason he was there was because he lived in Russia and he was a patsy.

It just doesn't make sense, Paul.

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12 hours ago, Michael Walton said:

Paul - I still simply cannot believe how you can somehow in your mind reconcile the notion that Oswald, while publicly stirring things up as a Communist in NO, how the plotters made a fake trip for him down in MC with the idea that he was cavorting with a Russian assassin, was a nobody. Yet you still believe, mind-bogglingly, that he was actually an unwitting right-winger who shot at Ed Walker.

And then to top if off, Oswald himself said - when he knew the jig was up - stated for all to hear and be recorded - that the only reason he was there was because he lived in Russia and he was a patsy.

It just doesn't make sense, Paul.

Michael,

Thanks for the polite challenge.  I'll try again to explain my nuanced CT.

1.  Even in New Orleans, Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) was a nobody.  Who really cared that some street urchin was lobbying for Fidel Castro in the streets?

2.  In fact, who bothers to film a Communist handing out leaflets?   NOBODY.

3.  Jim Garrison was 100% correct to recognize that fact -- and that Ed Butler (a propaganda expert) was managing the publicity of LHO in newspaper, radio and TV in New Orleans.

4.  Some might say that Ed Butler was working for the CIA, but he wasn't a CIA agent -- he was sometimes a contractor for them, but he was a full-time enemy of Fidel Castro, and wanted Castro dead yesterday.

5.  I am not certain that Ed Butler was aware of the Kill JFK plot -- he was probably aware only of the Kill Fidel Castro plot.  His goal was to help LHO infiltrate the Communists.

6.  So, for the Radical Right in NOLA, our hero LHO was trying to become somebody -- but he was still a NOBODY.

7.  LHO went to Mexico City to try to gain entry into Cuba.  Marina Oswald was emphatic about this.  She said this over and over.  LHO was obsessed with getting into Cuba.

8.  LHO was almost certainly promised a big cash award if he was successful in getting into Cuba.   This explains his making a fool of himself in Mexico City.

9.  Of course he failed -- and IMHO Guy Banister knew good and well that he would fail.  (Ed Butler and DAP were hoping he would succeed.)

10.  IMHO, our hero LHO had no clue in the world that David Morales (?) was going to Impersonate him in order to link his name with KGB assassin Kostikov.   No clue.

11.  In my CT, LHO was a Radical Right winger who was trying with all his might to get a full-time job in the CIA.  That's why he did what he did in NOLA.

12. OK, NOW REWIND TAPE BACK TO APRIL 1963.

13.  I still maintain that LHO belonged to the Radical Right wing even in Dallas -- except that since LHO was not an educated man, and his ideas of Marxism were at a child's level, he did not understand what George De Mohrenschildt (DeM) was doing to him.

14.  The only sophisticated political science that LHO ever read was Marxism.  And according to George DeM, LHO's mastery of Marxism was pathetic.

15.  One reason LHO looked up to George DeM was because of George's obvious mastery of Marxism.   George had been a college professor -- perhaps some here didn't know that.

16.  Now -- George DeM probably did work for the CIA on a contract basis, here and there.   He wasn't a CIA agent, but he was smart enough to be useful to the CIA.

17.  It is very likely that George DeM boasted about this to LHO.   This would have impressed LHO very much -- because LHO wanted to be a CIA agent with all his heart.

18.  It is for this reason, IMHO, that our hero LHO took a turn for the worse.

19.  As it turns out, Russian Expatriates hate Fascists as much as they hate Communists.  This is because of the specific history of Russia in WW2.

20.  So, George DeM hated and despised General Walker.   We can read this in his WC testimony and in his 1977 manuscript, I'm a Patsy! I'm a Patsy! 

21.  George used to call General Walker, "General Fokker" to LHO, to make him laugh.  They used to call Volkmar Schmidt, "Messer Schmidt."  It was their thing.

22.  Volkmar Schmidt also hated General Walker -- and compared him to Adolf Hitler.

23.  THEREFORE, it is my humble opinion, that LHO would do anything in the world to impress George DeM, because LHO hoped that George might put in a good word for him with the CIA.

24.  In his political naivete, therefore, LHO decided that he would try to please both George DeMohrenschildt and Volkmar Schmidt by killing General Walker dead.

25.  LHO found out the hard way that George DeM and Volkmar Schmidt would be horrified by such a STUPID act.   He had failed again.  The story of his life.

26.  LHO had hoped to get a job in the CIA by shooting Walker.   That was his key motivation in Dallas in April.

27. LHO had hoped to get a job in the CIA by infiltrating the FPCC in Cuba -- that was his key motive in NOLA that summer, and in Mexico City.

28.  We see here how intelligence can be very relative.   LHO was better read than most people -- but just -- not -- enough.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

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32 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said:

Michael,

Thanks for the polite challenge.  I'll try again to explain my nuanced CT.

1.  Even in New Orleans, Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) was a nobody.  Who really cared that some street urchin was lobbying for Fidel Castro in the streets?

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

"Oswald's uncle, a man named Charles "Dutz" Murret, was an ex-prize fighter and promoter who was also a bookie. He was under the control of Carlos Marcello, who at that time was the head of the Mafia in New Orleans. These were the people who were in the sphere of Lee Harvey Oswald's life as a child."

http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmarcello.htm

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37 minutes ago, Paul Trejo said:

Michael,

Thanks for the polite challenge.  I'll try again to explain my nuanced CT.

1.  Even in New Orleans, Lee Harvey Oswald (LHO) was a nobody.  Who really cared that some street urchin was lobbying for Fidel Castro in the streets?

2.  In fact, who bothers to film a Communist handing out leaflets?   NOBODY.

Why do we have numerous photos of this going on. We have the Martin Film and one other, at least. his interviews were on television and radio shows which were broadcast as far away as Dallas.

3.  Jim Garrison was 100% correct to recognize that fact -- and that Ed Butler (a propaganda expert) was managing the publicity of LHO in newspaper, radio and TV in New Orleans.

4.  Some might say that Ed Butler was working for the CIA, but he wasn't a CIA agent -- he was sometimes a contractor for them, but he was a full-time enemy of Fidel Castro, and wanted Castro dead yesterday.

So he was a contractor for the CIA, but he wasn't when I'd doesn't fit your Theory, Paul?

5.  I am not certain that Ed Butler was aware of the Kill JFK plot -- he was probably aware only of the Kill Fidel Castro plot.  His goal was to help LHO infiltrate the Communists.

6.  So, for the Radical Right in NOLA, our hero LHO was trying to become somebody -- but he was still a NOBODY.

Except for being know to run in circles with Carlos Marcelo.

7.  LHO went to Mexico City to try to gain entry into Cuba.  Marina Oswald was emphatic about this.  She said this over and over.  LHO was obsessed with getting into Cuba.

Not according to some of the esteemed researchers on this forum who document their evidence instead of offering mythical, prosaic accounts and the testimony of known perjurers.

8.  LHO was almost certainly promised a big cash award if he was successful in getting into Cuba.   This explains his making a fool of himself in Mexico City.

To say that one thing explains another assumes that their relationship is obvious. You have no proof of a big cash reward for your "poor church mouse" (as you call him), only speculation; and you use this to tell a tale of Lee's ride, by car, with his scope-mounted-rifle in a duffel bag, intent on obtaining an entrance visa from Russia, a transit visa from Cuba, so he can stop in Havana on his layover..... and..... kill Castro. Do I understand you correctly?

9.  Of course he failed -- and IMHO Guy Banister knew good and well that he would fail.  (Ed Butler and DAP were hoping he would succeed.)

Pure fiction.

10.  IMHO, our hero LHO had no clue in the world that David Morales (?) was going to Impersonate him in order to link his name with KGB assassin Kostikov.   No clue.

I'll leave you to speak with the authority on those who are clueless.

11.  In my CT, LHO was a Radical Right winger who was trying with all his might to get a full-time job in the CIA.  That's why he did what he did in NOLA.

He was a marine with senestive technical knowledge, knew Russian, and had security clearances, a wife, family and connections in the oil industry; yet he decided to run with washed-up, criminal informants, thugs and mobsters, in order to get a job with the CIA? Help me a little more with this Paul, please.

12. OK, NOW REWIND TAPE BACK TO APRIL 1963.

OH Joy, Paul is going to help me out.

13.  I still maintain that LHO belonged to the Radical Right wing even in Dallas -- except that since LHO was not an educated man, and his ideas of Marxism were at a child's level, he did not understand what George De Mohrenschildt (DeM) was doing to him.

Got it, he is a savant with language capabilities, has military clearances, he can articulate the differentiate Marxism from Communism to the befuddlement of anyone but a political science or philosophy professor, but has the mind of a child and is being manipulated by the grand wizard, GDM. I am listening, very hard.

14.  The only sophisticated political science reading that LHO ever read was Marxism.  And according to George DeM, LHO's mastery of Marxism was pathetic.

Oh, so I got that wrong when he made his polticol and philosophical distinctions to interviewers, interrogators and reporters? And the guy who led him to his demise is the guy I should take as an authority? Or is it you that I should be taking as an authority? or is your authority on GDM that I should be taking as an authority??? Oh Paul! I thought you were going to help me out! Your not doing a very good job!

15.  One reason LHO looked up to George DeM was because of George's obvious mastery of Marxism.   George had been a college professor -- perhaps some here didn't know that.

Perhaps you are right, I missed that. I suppose that you are saying that GDM was a college professor in political science or philosophy prior to having met Lee, so he could make these distinctions, that's exciting! Or, was he trained in sciences, or business, after he led Lee to his demise? Oh Paul, you make it so interesting and you are always leaving me to guess at these things, or having to sort through all of the information on these characters. You really should assist the gentle reader and be a little more clear, or perhaps provide some citations, don't you think?

16.  Now -- George DeM probably did work for the CIA on a contract basis, here and there.   He wasn't a CIA agent, but he was smart enough to be useful to the CIA.

Oh goodie, the old was but he wasn't trick again, just like.... who was that? Oh yes, Ed Butler. Ok, got it. I think....

17.  It is very likely that George DeM boasted about this to LHO.   This would have impressed LHO very much -- because LHO wanted to be a CIA agent with all his heart.

Now why does this sound like prosaic speculation and fantasy? Oh, I am sorry, I forgot that I was reading a diatribe of Paul Trejo.

18.  It is for this reason, IMHO, that our hero LHO took a turn for the worse.

If I read you right, you are saying that GDM did it, to Oswald, but Oswald didn't really Do it, Walker did it, With Lee's gun..... no wait, lee gave his gun to one of Walkers guys to do it. But GDM set Lee up to give the gun to one of Walkers guys. But wait, Lee didn't have a gun..... never mind, I'll just keep reading.

19.  As it turns out, Russian Expatriates hate Fascists as much as they hate Communists.  This is because of the specific history of Russia in WW2.

.......And, ill have to come back to finish this and search for typos.......

20.  So, George DeM hated and despised General Walker.   We can read this in his WC testimony and in his 1977 manuscript, I'm a Patsy! I'm a Patsy! 

21.  George used to call General Walker, "General Fokker" to LHO, to make him laugh.  They used to call Volkmar Schmidt, "Messer Schmidt."  It was their thing.

22.  Volkmar Schmidt also hated General Walker -- and compared him to Adolf Hitler.

23.  THEREFORE, it is my humble opinion, that LHO would to anything in the world to impress George DeM, because LHO hoped that George might put in a good word for him with the CIA.

24.  In his political naivete, therefore, LHO decided that he would try to please both George DeMohrenschildt and Volkmar Schmidt by killing General Walker dead.

25.  LHO found out the hard way that George DeM and Volkmar Schmidt would be horrified by such a STUPID act.   He had failed again.  The story of his life.

26.  LHO had hoped to get a job in the CIA by shooting Walker.   That was his key motivation in Dallas in April.

27. LHO had hoped to get a job in the CIA by infiltrating the FPCC in Cuba -- that was his key motive in NOLA that summer, and in Mexico City.

28.  We see here how intelligence can be very relative.   LHO was better read than most people -- but just -- not -- enough.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

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