Phone lines, Crafard, and Senator at the Carousel

[Chris Newton]

5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

You might be thinking of Austin's BBQ.

Yes. Thanks Steve. The connection to Ruby is interesting.

[Michael Clark]

Testimony of Kay Olsen

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/olsen_k.htm

Mrs. OLSEN. We went to the parking lot; we used to go over there and talk to Johnny.
Mr. SPECTER. Johnny who?
Mrs. OLSEN. I don't know.
Mr. SPECTER. Where is the parking lot located?
Mrs. OLSEN. Right behind the Carousel Club; across the street on-- what street would that be?
Mr. SPECTER. Akard?
Mrs. OLSEN. Akard?
Mr. SPECTER. Jackson and Akard?
Mrs. OLSEN. Jackson.
Mr. SPECTER. Was that at the intersection of Jackson and Akard?
Mrs. OLSEN. No. Jackson and the next street down. What was that? Field Jackson and Field. And we sat in there and we talked.
Mr. SPECTER. How long did you talk to Johnny?
Mrs. OLSEN. Oh, quite a while.
Mr. SPECTER. Was anybody else there at that time?
Mrs. OLSEN. Not that I remember; no. And we were sitting there; it was late, and that's when Jack Ruby drove by.
Mr. SPECTER. What time did he drive by?
Mrs. OLSEN. Oh, I can't be positive on these times.
Mr. SPECTER. About what time? 

Mrs. OLSEN. I guess around 1.
Mr. SPECTER. Did he stop?
Mrs. OLSEN. Yes. We waved, and he stopped. He stopped at a red light and pulled in and he came in and sat in the car and talked to us for quite a while.
Mr. SPECTER. How long did that conversation last?
Mrs. OLSEN. Oh, I guess an hour or so at least.
 

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Mr. SPECTER. Did Mr. Olsen know Officer Tippit?
Mrs. OLSEN. He said he did.
Mr. SPECTER. Did he know him well?
Mrs. OLSEN. He said he had never been over to his house or anything, he just seen him in the locker room, you know.

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Mr. SPECTER. After Mr. Ruby left what did you and Mr. Olsen do next? 
Mrs. OLSEN. We came home to my house.

Mr. SPECTER. What time did you arrive at your house? 
Mrs. OLSEN. Oh, let me see. It was kind of late, I guess around 3.

Mr. SPECTER. What did you do next? 
Mrs. OLSEN. I guess I went to bed.

 

[Michael Clark]

I think I might have found my phone guy...

Edit*** Ill be keeping a look-out for connections or testimony regarding Vaganov and the fair grounds. 

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Michael Clark]

As a refresher, with this thread, I am focusing on the Carousel crew and what they were up to between Friday morning and Saturday at about 7PM.

Part of my speculation is that they were moving and disposing of equipment and people.

John Ligget's schedule dovetails fairly well with the goings-on with the Carousel and crew.

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Michael Clark]

I wanted to get two more links on here before I leave it alone for a while. I don't want to keep bumping the thread...

Jack Lawrence

Jack claims that he parked his loaner car near the corner of Main and Ervay. This is very close to the Carousel. His story, for 11-22, starts at 12:30 when he parked the car and walked to work. Crafard's story starts minutes later when he says he was awaken by a co-worker who started blasting radio and TV news about the assassination.

Edit****'Jack Lawrence was given a ride back to his car by a retired Colonel. That stop is on a straight-shot between the dealership and the fairgrounds.

Edited June 5, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Michael Clark]

Deleted. Duplicate post.

****edit, added from this thread:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/20583-david-morales/&page=17

 

 

Larry Hancock wrote:

OK David, its hard to compress a rather lengthy chapter into a few paragraphs but here  you go:

By the time Roselli arrived in Los Angeles he was in transition from street hood to enforcer, moving out of the rackets per se into gambling and running protection for games in LA, most importantly the high dollar off shore gambling ships. At that point he took his first syndicate job, putting a major racetrack gambling wire into operation. That gave put him in touch with a number of east coast mob money guys and brought him to the attention of Meyer Lansky, who became his real behind the scenes mentor.  Lansky was so impressed with Roselli he used him in Cuba to clean up some of the most egregious casino problems which were embarrassing the gambling industry there – Roselli had learned how to get people’s attention without leaving bodies strewn all over the place. For him it was about deals and deal making. 

 

Back in LA, he used his east coast connections to bring big money into investments in the entertainment industry, a good way to launder cash – and he figured out ways to frustrate the movie industry unions while at the same time making money off the industry. The FBI was always frustrated by LA and Roselli; it was a city that used outside money to make more money rather than producing it through typical street crime (at least in his era).

 

With his entertainment connections, his money connections and his backing by Lansky, Roselli was in a great position to broker deals in gambling and entertainment as Vegas grew, his business card described him as a strategist and he helped folks like Giancana put casinos into Vegas. And he brokered his influence with entertainers and entertainment, Roselli made money off investment deals, and legal sidelines such as casino services. By the time you get to 1960 he had been gone from the street for a very long time, he knew people and he was trusted since he provided services and competed with none of the godfathers or with the syndicate. Was he a mob guy, sure, but a very different type of mob guy.

 

He was special in terms of the Castro plot because he had worked in Cuba, had connections to the old casino crowd there and also knew folks who still had channels into Cuba via the exile community in Florida – specifically Trafficante.  And up to that point in time he was known as the type of guy who could bring people together and ensure nobody talked. If the CIA was going to use criminal assets to operate inside Cuba, he was a great choice for making the right introductions that was his real attraction. That was really all there was to it, another agreement to make introductions, hook up people and get a deal done – which is really all he did for the CIA if you really dig into it.  It’s just that he did it twice, the second time for William Harvey – who clearly found him as a kindred spirit, Harvey always went full bore into anything he did, a really intense guy, and the same thing could be said for Roselli.  Roselli just dressed a lot better. 

Edited June 15, 2017 by Michael Clark

[Steve Thomas]

On 5/5/2017 at 3:08 PM, Michael Clark said:

David, I see that you are on-line so I though I would ask... I have searched for the thread that you mentioned with no luck. Do you have any more info or clues to go on, so I might locate it.

Cheers,

Michael

 

Michael,

 

You may be straying into the world of Benny Binion, Herbert Noble and R.D. Matthews.

Here's one link you can look at:

Steve Thomas