James Richards Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Hi Stephen, I am curious if the guy I have circled below has ever been identified? Any information you (or any other forum member) can offer would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 No definitive answer. I showed this Ciravolo pic to a CAP guy who should know, but he begged bad memory after all these years. He THOUGHT it might be Roy Tell. I showed it to another guy, VERY close to Ferrie but VERY insistent that I never quote or refer to him. He was not in the CAP, but he thought it looked like a Ferrie friend named Andrew Jerome Blackmon. However, Blackmon is described elswhere as swarthy, having curly black hair. So I'd doubt that it was him. I'm going to NO in a few weeks to interview some folks. I'll ask around. One interesting thing I found out: The smaller Moisant Squadron shown here apparently included occasional appearances by members of the larger New Orleans Cadet Squadron (Lakefront), from which Ferrie had been bounced a few months earlier, and to which he later briefly returned. The guy on the far left, for example, is Alvin C. Miester, from the NOCS. I've turned up a bunch of other photos of the CAP including or related to Ferrie, and later photos of his unchartered Metairie Falcon Squadron and IMSUs - Internal Mobile Security Units. If all goes well, I'll debut them in a forthcoming book and film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 It's my understanding that Ferrie is the second man from the left. Is that correct? In looking at this photo again, the third man from the left, whom I'd paid no attention to before, got me wondering. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 Excellent stuff, Stephen. I appreciate the effort and your reply. That is some terrific information. Excuse my ignorance but what is the NOCS? Is Meister now a Lousiana lawyer? Thanks again. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted July 3, 2005 Author Share Posted July 3, 2005 It's my understanding that Ferrie is the second man from the left. Is that correct? In looking at this photo again, the third man from the left, whom I'd paid no attention to before, got me wondering.Ron <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, that's Ferrie. The guy third from the left standing bears a resemblance to Dennis Harber. (IMO) James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 It is my opinion that LHO probably has been added to the photo. The late Tom Wilson also thought so. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Geraghty Posted July 3, 2005 Share Posted July 3, 2005 It's my understanding that Ferrie is the second man from the left. Is that correct? In looking at this photo again, the third man from the left, whom I'd paid no attention to before, got me wondering.Ron <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly what i thought ron, even though i have seen this photo hundreds of times. He does bear a striking resemblance John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 It's my understanding that Ferrie is the second man from the left. Is that correct? In looking at this photo again, the third man from the left, whom I'd paid no attention to before, got me wondering.Ron <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ron: The same guy (bad memory) who thought the circled guy was Roy Tell also thought the third guy was Joe Lisman, a Delta pilot who commanded the squadron, but I think the insignia (bars) are wrong. Again, I'll try to clarify this when I see a couple of former members in a few weeks. Yes, Ferrie is the second guy, in a helmet (and a provocative position, given Ferrie's orientation!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Excellent stuff, Stephen. I appreciate the effort and your reply.That is some terrific information. Excuse my ignorance but what is the NOCS? New Orleans Cadet Squadron, at Lakefront/NO Municipal Airport, as opposed to the smaller squadron at Moisant. (If one flies to Moisant, mow NO INternational, your luggage is marked MSY= Moisant Stock Yards!!!!) Is Meister now a Lousiana lawyer? (corr: Miester, pronounced mee-ster) At one time, he was at a seminary in Louisiana. I found someone by that name at a seminary, but one who knows him said he was now a civilian. Thanks again. James <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 It is my opinion that LHO probably has been added to the photo.The late Tom Wilson also thought so. Jack <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The guy who kept the rolls of that squadron, now a retired NO official, is sure Oswald was there. He says he had a partial roster of that event, but I've never seen it. (It was called a SARCAP, Search and rescue/CAP). He is one of the people I am going to see in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Simkin Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 Is the chap fifth from the left JFK’s illegitimate son. I hope that joke is not in bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Crowe Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 He looks like a young William Seymour to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Richards Posted July 4, 2005 Author Share Posted July 4, 2005 He looks like a young William Seymour to me.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He sure does, Ryan. This is something I have been curious about for some time, and it's not just the physical similarity. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 He looks like a young William Seymour to me.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "He looks like a young William Seymour to me.." I was about to say the same thing when I looked at it last night, but you guys have beaten me to the punch. Good shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Agbat Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Jack, Apart from the shoes (which seem out of place when compared to what everyone else is wearing), what are the clues that LHO might have been added to this photo? Regards, Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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