General Walker : a 'pauper'?

[John Dolva]

Maybe during the subcomittee hearings into the overseas weekly that exposed Walker in the first place set the scene? The old guard - Good ole boys etc? Norwy's an interesting one. Last occupied country to surrender. It was even proposed early on in the end of the war that Germany would formally surrender there. I think James posted a photo a year or so ago with Walker and the crown prince. I suppose that was taken in Norway.

Jim, do you know where in Norway Walker was stationed? Which native organisations he liased with and whether he also processed the repatriation of quislings?

Edited June 8, 2006 by John Dolva

[Jim Root]

John

At the end of the war Walker was commanding a unit that contained both the remnants of the Americans from the First Special Services Force and a group known as the 99th Battalion Seperate. The 99th was composed, almost entirely of Norwegian speeking Americans (William Colby having been an original member of the 99th). The FSSF was originally organized to be inserted into Norway to engage in a covert war designed to pin down German units in that Northern Country.

As it ended up, part of the deception campaign for the D-Day landings (Fortitude) was a continuing operation to make the Germans believe that a landing in Norway was at all times a potential (Fortitude North). Given the heavy water production in Norway (necessary for the German A-Bomb effort) we find that the Germans actually kept nearly 20 Divisions stationed in Norway right up until the end of the War. Even 10 of those Division stationed on the Western Front around D-Day may have had a significant impact on the Allied operations in France.

Of note is the fact that Walker was not assigned to the FSSF until just before it departed for the Aleutian Campaign (which made it one of the very few units to have served in both the Pacific and the European Campaigns). I have read first hand accounts from members of the unit that claimed that Walker came to the Force at about the same time that some German spies were descovered amoungest its members and arrested. I have always believed that the FSSF may have been formed as part of the deception campaign (Fortitude) but once formed it was only later designated for use in the most difficult special assignments.

For example when the Force went to Kiska it was the Third Regiment that landed first (Walker Commanding). Upon the island, in what was called the first "Ferret Mission," a sophisticated Japanese Radar Unit was detected by a specially equiped airplane loaded with advanced electronics. I have speculated that the capture of this radar unit was a primary goal of the soldiers of the FSSF. I have seen a picture of the men of the Force hanging what appears to be their laundry upon the antenae of this radar unit. The fact that Attu was attacked before Kiska, although Attu was further West than Kiska, seems to support the idea that Kiska was to be isolated and successfully blockaded before it was attacked.

Special assignments are a trademark of Walker's military career.

John J. McCloy was present for the Kiska assault.

Coincidence?

Jim Root

[Robert Howard]

John

At the end of the war Walker was commanding a unit that contained both the remnants of the Americans from the First Special Services Force and a group known as the 99th Battalion Seperate. The 99th was composed, almost entirely of Norwegian speeking Americans (William Colby having been an original member of the 99th). The FSSF was originally organized to be inserted into Norway to engage in a covert war designed to pin down German units in that Northern Country.

As it ended up, part of the deception campaign for the D-Day landings (Fortitude) was a continuing operation to make the Germans believe that a landing in Norway was at all times a potential (Fortitude North). Given the heavy water production in Norway (necessary for the German A-Bomb effort) we find that the Germans actually kept nearly 20 Divisions stationed in Norway right up until the end of the War. Even 10 of those Division stationed on the Western Front around D-Day may have had a significant impact on the Allied operations in France.

Of note is the fact that Walker was not assigned to the FSSF until just before it departed for the Aleutian Campaign (which made it one of the very few units to have served in both the Pacific and the European Campaigns). I have read first hand accounts from members of the unit that claimed that Walker came to the Force at about the same time that some German spies were descovered amoungest its members and arrested. I have always believed that the FSSF may have been formed as part of the deception campaign (Fortitude) but once formed it was only later designated for use in the most difficult special assignments.

For example when the Force went to Kiska it was the Third Regiment that landed first (Walker Commanding). Upon the island, in what was called the first "Ferret Mission," a sophisticated Japanese Radar Unit was detected by a specially equiped airplane loaded with advanced electronics. I have speculated that the capture of this radar unit was a primary goal of the soldiers of the FSSF. I have seen a picture of the men of the Force hanging what appears to be their laundry upon the antenae of this radar unit. The fact that Attu was attacked before Kiska, although Attu was further West than Kiska, seems to support the idea that Kiska was to be isolated and successfully blockaded before it was attacked.

Special assignments are a trademark of Walker's military career.

John J. McCloy was present for the Kiska assault.

Coincidence?

Jim Root

The Aleutian Islands in relation to the Pacific Theater of Operations in World War 2 began when the Imperial Japanese Navy transported a relatively small force to occupy the islands as part of a diversionary campaign associated with preparations for the Battle of Midway [June 4-6 1942]. Fortunately for the United States, and due to the fact that the Japanese code's were broken, the tactic was a failure. After the sinking of the Kaga, Akagi, Hiryu and Soryu, the IJN reinforced the garrison in the Aleutians primarily through the use of Japanese Submarines [i and RO-boats] the historical accounts from that point on [see Samuel Elliot Morrison] state that while the fighting for Attu was quite fierce, the Japanese forces at Kiska were secretly removed mostly via submarine, and that the US landings to reclaim Kiska were practically uncontested.

I wanted to mention that as a point of reference to those who are not familiar with World War 2 Pacific Theater operations. But I will mention that Jim Root's credentials regarding history outweigh my own considerably.

Edited June 8, 2006 by Robert Howard

[Jim Root]

Robert

Peter Layton Cottingham, in his book, "Once Upon a Wartime" (aliitle known publication about a Canadian who served in Walker's 3rd Regiment of the FSSF) describes comming upon a freshly cooked hot meal in a bunker that overlooked the exact landing site where Walker came ashore on Kiska. He disputes that the island was totally evacuated and leaves one to speculate that an advance group may have already been ashore when the initial landing was made by the 3rd Regiment. The FSSF were used in Kiska the same way that they would again be used in the landings in Southern France, to secure an area in advance of the main landings.

"We had the strangest feeling as we entered that the bunker had been very recently occupied. This was confirmed as we felt the stove. It was warm and contained a pot of luke warm coffee on top." (page 85)

"The American intelligence had their own agenda and to this day they insist that the enemy had left the island en masse a day or two before our arrival." (page 86)

" We had plenty of time to kill waiting for our next move. That gave us a chance to look over some of the Japanese installations..." (page 88)

Radar was reguarded as a serious new technological weapon during WWII. One only needs to remember such exploits as the commando raid on a German Wurzburg radar site at Bruneval to understand the importance the Allied Command placed on such installations.

This excerpt taken from a story about the Dieppe Raid shows the value placed in gaining information about enemy radar:

"Another positive outcome from the Dieppe raid was a greater understanding of the new German radar technology, codenamed Freya. In 1940, the R.A.F. became aware that the Germans had put Freya into operation but did not know what its effective range was or how to jam its frequencies -. During the Dieppe raid, radar technician Flight Sergeant Jack Nissenthal was assigned to a top-secret mission to learn about Freya. Members of the South Saskatchewan Regiment escorted Nissenthal on the raid. Because his extensive knowledge of radar systems could be a significant asset to the enemy, the Regiment was ordered to kill him rather than allow him to be captured. Nissenthal and his escorts landed near the town of Pourville and made their way to their intended target, the radar station at Caude-Côté. Unable to penetrate the heavily fortified station, Nissenthal did the next best thing and cut its phone lines to the German forces. The German personnel at the radar station were forced to use radio communication during the battle. R.A.F. listeners in England monitored this radio traffic and learned a great deal about Freya's capabilities. The Allied armies thus gained a vital tactical advantage, the ability to jam German radar. Countless allied airmen owe their lives to the Dieppe raid. Nissenthal and at least some of the South Saskatchewan Regiment returned safely to England. Others were not so fortunate and were among the many killed or captured at Dieppe. (from "Military History: Second World War: Early Losses")

During the battle of Guadalcanal, US Marines captured a crude Japanese Radar system that was no where near as sophisticated as the US SCR270 system. But the allies soon started searching the airwaves for Japanese radar capabilities:

"SIGINT receivers were quickly installed on submarines and aircraft to hunt for more Japanese radars. A Consolidated B-24 Liberator ferret that had been fitted with various SIGINT gear, including some lab breadboards, performed probes of the Japanese-held island of the Kiska in the Aleutians in March 1942, and discovered the signatures of two more IJN Type 1 Model 1 radars, which the SIGINT operator reported sounded exactly like the signature of the US SCR-270 longwave radar." (Electronic Warfare Against The Axis (1) v2.0.1 / chapter 8 of 12 / 01 feb 05 / greg goebel / public domain).

The US was worried and the capture of this installation became a top priority. Edwin Walker was transferred to the FSSF and then led the assault at Kiska. We return to this area of Signals Intelligence (SIGNT) that I find pops up within the career of Walker on a persistant basis (previous references to John B. Hurt). Present to whitness these landings is Asst. Secretary of War John J. McCloy.

I too "wanted to mention that as a point of reference to those who are not familiar with World War 2 Pacific Theater operations."

Jim Root

[John Dolva]

see below

Edited June 11, 2006 by John Dolva

[John Dolva]

see below

Edited June 11, 2006 by John Dolva

[John Dolva]

This particular post is a reorganisation of previous posts. The number of characters of interest is fleshing out into some of the Usual Suspects::

After about a year of JFK interest and that spent mostly, as far as individuals go, wandering around the periphery of the scene, primarily, ( as much as is possible from here ), in the world of the good ole' boys, one stumbles through a side door of the Mississippi Sovereignty files into the corridors of Corrigan Tower. #

And look, the first people one comes across are Friends of George DeMorenschild, including Oswald. And there is Leo Corrigan, one of the 67 wealthiest Americans of the time, and next door is Byrd, who owns the TSBD. Across and down the road a bit is Jack Ruby's club and he pays his rent here.

Walkers supporter, whoever that may be, in Corrigan Tower as a nexus??

Searching for WHO::

::

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/issues_and_ev...ne_of_Ruby.html

NOVEMBER 21

11:15 AM TRAMMELL: "On the way downtown, he (Jack) stopped at Merchants State Bank** on Ross Avenue for a few minutes." This may have been when Ruby purchased the Cashier's Check to pay his rent: (Merchants State Bank, 5217 Ross Avenue). Jack purchased a $500 Cashiers Check to L. F. Corrigan.(23 H 140); WCR: "paid his rent for Carousel" citing this check. (WCR: 333-4) Corrigan was landlord for Vegas Club. Posner made same error (CASE CLOSED, 366) RUBY said his Carousel landlord was Houston Nichols (14 H 550) *POSNER gave this estimated time of 1:00 (see Trammel 11:15 entry) In SS interview RUBY tried to recall his activities on 11/21. Recalled taking check to Corrigan for rent of one of his clubs and talking to Mickey Ryan at Carousel. Mary LEVANDOWSKI, 211 N. Ervay, secretary to Leo F. Corrigan, verified date when she received the check for the rent from Ruby. Did not provide a time. (25 H 380-81)

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...H22_CE_1474.pdf

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/w...H23_CE_1571.pdf

Inspired by James' topic on David S. Leventhal to try to understand this fellow::

as the questioning by the FBI is very much like a kind of interrogation, and his answers are sometimes a kind of Lawyer speak a.la' Sgt Shultz "I know nothing!". ... when looking at what he knows nothing about. (Like Jack Ruby for example) Reading the stories of people who were there helps.

http://www.lotuseaters.net/jfkdad.shtml

http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/20/ruby.html

An interersting set of impressions of central Dallas 50's 60's

(hmmm... ** in the search, one instance of coming across the Merchant Bank (Hunt) and Jack together, is on a clipping from Dallas Phone Directory alledgedly found in relation to the assassination of MLK.)

# WALKER PATRIOTS IN SERVICE, Nov. 1961: An orthodontist in Midland, Texas, fundraising for General Walker

http://www.mdah.state.ms.us/arlib/contents...|3|1|1|1|71820|

(scroll down to link to page 2)

The adress to send contributions to Walker to use at his 'uncontrolled discretion', is Corrigan Tower in Dallas, with what looks like a c/o name redacted. (WHO?)

Edited June 11, 2006 by John Dolva

[John Dolva]

# WALKER PATRIOTS IN SERVICE, Nov. 1961: An orthodontist in Midland, Texas, fundraising for General Walker

http://www.mdah.state.ms.us/arlib/contents...|3|1|1|1|71820|

(scroll down to link to page 2)

Since posting this link last week the entire document is now 'redacted'****. Fortunately copies exist in the computers of many. As do any trail leading to any redaction (and any other attendant redactions.)

here is a transcript

[page one]

WILLIAM DONALD KELLEY, D.D.S.

Practice Limited to Orthodontics

1111 WEST WALL

MIDLAND, TEXAS

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MUtual 3-4123

November 20, 1961

Dear Fellow American:

We the People want to 'hire' General Walker.

We feel that General Walker stood up for us and against the Communists when and

where we needed him. We are going to stand up for him when and where he needs us..

...NOW and with our action, we feel that it is up to We the People to NOT let him "fade

away" like We the People did for General MacArthur.

We the People feel that any man who would lay his military career down for us -

that any man who would give up his well earned personal security and retirement to help

save us - we will in no way desert in this crucial hour of his life.

We the People want to put General Walker on our payroll; we want to make it

possible for him to be free to continue fighting our battle for us without his actions being

limited due to financial considerations.

Each of us are going to send General Walker a monthly check for whatever amount

we feel we can afford from $1.00 to $1, 000.00 for his fight against the Communist enemy.

If every person who feels our country is worth saving would send $1. 00 every month,

General Walker could have an adequate staff and he could do the type of job the American

people want him to do.

General Walker has electrified America to the awful truth....we are therefore

going to send him our monthly check when we pay our monthly electric bill, for such use

as he may see fit to put it, in his uncontrolled discretion. Like a bolt of lightning he has

started a fire in We the People that will burn the Godless Communists from our country and the world.

We the People can whip the Communists by good use, for a change, of the American

Institution known as the "Installment Plan". We are tired of letting our enemies bleed

us dry. We are tired of consistently supporting communiust governments with our tax money and Communist overthrow of Pro-American governments as in China and Cuba.

One more thing, let us all remember that if our grandfathers had fought the Indians and Red-Coats like we are fighting the Communists, we wouldn't be alive today.

Please send your support and pledges to:

Edwin A, Walker [ed underlined with a redaction following]

Corrigan Tower

212 St. Paul St.,

Dallas 1, Texas

P.S.

Please reproduce and send to your mailing list.

Most respectfully yours,

[signature]

W. D. Kelley

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[image::the lower right corner of document showing redacted and MSC identifiers, save print keep]

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[page 2::]

PATRIOT'S IN SERVICE

I wish to join forces with the WALKER PATRIOTS IN SERVICE and pledge to

support this fight against Communism with my prayers, actions and whatever

monthly contribution I can afford.

[form fields for::]

signature street

date city state

WE SHALL WIN

*REGARDLESS OF THE COST

*REGARDLESS OF THE PERSONAL SACRIFICE

*REGARDLESS OF THE TIME IT TAKES

WILLIAM DONALD KELLEY, D.D.S.

1111 West Wall

Midalnd, Texas

[postage stamping permit no. 140]

TO:

Albert Jones,Director

Mississippi State Sovereignty Commission

New Capitol Building

Jackson, Mississippi

EDIT:::****and it's back online again...

Edited June 11, 2006 by John Dolva

[John Dolva]

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Was General Walkers activities turning him into a pauper that couldn't even afford an air conditioner?

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This is the man arrested on four federal charges in Mississippi in 1962:

"In 1961, Gen. Edwin Walker was commander of the 24th Division of the U.S. Army in West Germany, when he was relieved of his command because he attempted to indoctrinate his men with his political philosophy. Soon after, he resigned from the Army. In 1962-63, Gen. Edwin Walker had the financial backing of Haroldson L. Hunt, in his campaign to fight communism in the U.S.. H. L. Hunt was the richest oilman in Texas. Both men lived and worked in Dallas and were members of the John Birch Society."

The Strange Case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker - http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/walker.txt

"Those charges were:

Section 111-- For assault and resisting or other opposing Federal

officers, including marshals, in the performance of their duty.

Section 372-- For conspiracy to prevent a Federal officer from

discharging his duties.

Section 2383-- For inciting or engaging in an insurrection

against the United States.

Section 2384-- For conspiracy to overthrow or oppose by force

the execution of the laws of the United States.

[[His public statement at Oxford was as follows:

This is Edwin A. Walker. I am in Mississippi beside Gov. Ross

Barnett. I call for a national protest against the conspiracy

from within.

Rally to the cause of freedom in righteous indignation, violent

vocal protest and bitter silence under the flag of Mississippi

at the use of Federal troops.

This today is a disgrace to the nation in 'dire peril,' a

disgrace beyond the capacity of anyone except its enemies.

This is the conspiracy of the crucifixion by anti-Christ

conspirators of the Supreme Court in their denial of prayer

and their betrayal of a nation.]]

A conspiracy is defined legally as including two or more persons.

On October 7, 1962, Walker posted $50,000 bond and returned home to Dallas amid 200 cheering supporters carrying signs like "Welcome Home, General Walker," "Win With General Walker," and "President '64."

On January 21, 1963, a federal grand jury in Oxford, Mississippi adjourned without indicting Walker on any of the four counts against him.

The Justice Department dismissed the charges "without prejudice" after the grand jury failed to indict. The dismissal "without prejudice" meant that the charges could be reinstated before the five year statute of limitations expired.

Walker and his supporters then went on the offensive. On April 2, 1963, a group called the Citizens Congressional Committee filed a petition with the Senate Judiciary Committee requesting an investigation of the treatment of "America's fearless patriot on the occasion of his incarceration at the instigation of the Department of Justice."

Nine days later, on April 9, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the famous shooting incident occurred.

Meanwhile, the American Medical Association was receiving "a volume of letters from individual physicians" charging Dr. Charles E. Smith, the Army psychiatrist -- who commented on Walker's mental state at the time of the Oxford violence -- with unethical conduct: that he made an improper diagnosis without a personal examination. Dr. Smith was cleared by the AMA on July 4, 1963. He said that news stories of Walker's "reported behavior reflects sensitivity and essentially unpredictable and seemingly bizarre outbursts of the type often observed in individuals suffering with paranoid mental disorder." The society had received 2,500 letters from physicians alleging unethical conduct by Dr. Smith. Nevertheless, the board unanimously ruled in Smith's favor.

Walker then took his case to court, filing a total of $23 million dollars in libel damages against numerous media outlets alleging that they had made "false statements" and that their "suppression of truth was motivated by malice and a desire to hurt and harm him in his good reputation and blacken his good name." The statements in question were that he "led a charge of students against Federal marshals on the Ole Miss campus" and various other statements attributing to him a very active role in leading the insurrection such as "Walker assumed command of the crowd." A jury in Fort Worth awarded an $800,000 judgment against the Associated Press, ruling that malice was intended.

The offensive was also being taken up by Republicans in Congress in an alliance with Southern Democrats, who wanted to embarrass Attorney General Robert Kennedy because of his civils rights activities. The House Judiciary Committee voted on September 1, 1964 by a margin of 18 to 14 to open an investigation of the Justice Department's handling of cases including, but not limited to, those of Jimmy Hoffa, Roy M. Cohn, and former Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker. The vote among Republican and Southern Democratic committee members was 16-2; that of non-Southern Democrats was 2-12.

Meanwhile, a Louisiana jury awarded Walker $3 million in damages in another one of his libel suits."

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Kennedy was now dead, Walker seemed to begin to fade from public view:

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"His luck started to turn sour however, and finally on June 12, 1967, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 extending the constitutional protection of freedom of the press to libelous falsehoods about private individuals who willingly take part in public affairs. Such protections were already in place concerning libel against political officials, but this was a landmark case extending the applicability to private individuals who willingly venture into the public arena. Walker's awards were overturned.

Chief Justice Warren explained, "Our citizenry has a legitimate and substantial interest in the conduct of such persons... Freedom of the press to engage in uninhibited debate about their involvement in public issues should be subject to derogatory criticism, even when based on false statements."

Walker's name occasionally surfaced in the press after this, usually in connection with anti-UN activities or in connection with the presidential campaign of George Wallace."

quote post 2

By 1965 Walker seems to have made at least $3,800,000.00 minus costs on his activities as 'anti communist assett'

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In 1957, General Walker was actually credited with furthering the cause of racial integration after he led federal troops integrating the schools in Little Rock, Ark. Actually, Gen. Walker led the troops only after President Eisenhower refused his resignation, historian Don E. Carleton, author of Red Scare, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "He did not want to carry out that order," Mr. Carleton said. "He did not believe in racial integration" (General Walker obituary, AP release, November 2, 1993).

General Edwin A. Walker resigned from the Army in November 1961 after he was chastised by the Pentagon for distributing Birch Society propaganda to his troops. He was temporarily relieved of command, pending an investigation. Walker - a Bircher, also was the head of Committee for the Defense of Christian Culture, and the general once made a bid for governor but finished last in the 1962 Democratic runoff.

In 1962, Dallas officials of the John Birch Society attended a meeting with H.L Hunt, General Edwin Walker, Robert Morris (leader of the Defenders of American Liberty, president of Plato University in New Jersey and former chief counsel for the U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee), and Larrie Schmidt.

Late in September, 1962, James Meredith was seeking to become the first black ever admitted to the University of Mississippi. Mississippi governor Ross Barnett set out to block it, and Kennedy ordered National Guardsmen deployed on Meredith's behalf. That was when General Walker called for ten thousand civilians to march on Oxford, Mississippi, in opposition.

[Kennedy and Bobby had been involved in intense negotiations to get Barnett to back down, and it was only after they informed him that they had been taping the phone conversations that Barnett appeared to back down. However on the day Walker was bunkered down in Oxford directing operations and the highway partrol that Barnett was supposed to be controlling were letting Walkers men into the war zone.

Walker was on the scene when rioting erupted against four hundred federal marshals escorting Meredith onto the campus." Two people were killed in the melee, and 70 were wounded. The next morning, "Walker was arrested by federal authorities on four counts, including insurrection, and flown for psychiatric observation to the Medical Center for Federal Prisoners at Springfield, Missouri."

The Liberty Lobby hastened to General Walker's defense, and blamed the Kennedys for waging a campaign against Walker to "reduce his prestige" and "asset value to the anti-Communist cause".

Walker flew the U.S. flag upside down to express his rage over the perceived "communist" leanings of Kennedy and other government officials, according to Darwin Payne, a former Dallas newspaper reporter. "He was not a good speaker. He was a poor campaigner and finished last in a field of six [in the gubernatorial race], which was a surprise because he had so many ardent followers in the right wing," Mr. Payne says (Walker obituary)."

The JBS waged its grass-roots, populist approach to psychological warfare with much scape-goating. In The Radical Right (Random House, 1967), Epstein and Arnold offer that at the 1965 convention of the Christian Crusade, another fascist front, General Walker, "in speaking of the man who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, President Kennedy's assassin, urged his listeners not to forget that Ruby's name was Rubenstein, and they can't change that fact no matter how often they refer to him as Ruby."

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With so much backing and involvement it's hard to credit an idea that Walker was short of a quid.

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[John Dolva]

"In 1957, General Walker was actually credited with furthering the cause of racial integration after he led federal troops integrating the schools in Little Rock, Ark. Actually, Gen. Walker led the troops only after President Eisenhower refused his resignation, historian Don E. Carleton, author of Red Scare, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "He did not want to carry out that order," Mr. Carleton said. "He did not believe in racial integration" (General Walker obituary, AP release, November 2, 1993)."

If this was said/written in the late nineties, the author et.c. is likely alive, so there could be an avenue to confirming/debunking Walkers Little Rock 'resignation' story.

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"The Liberty Lobby hastened to General Walker's defense, and blamed the Kennedys for waging a campaign against Walker to "reduce his prestige" and "asset value to the anti-Communist cause". "

"Walker flew the U.S. flag upside down to express his rage over the perceived "communist" leanings of Kennedy and other government officials, according to Darwin Payne, a former Dallas newspaper reporter. "He was not a good speaker. He was a poor campaigner and finished last in a field of six [in the gubernatorial race], which was a surprise because he had so many ardent followers in the right wing," Mr. Payne says (Walker obituary)."

Much was made of young Lee refusing to salute the flag at school to paint him as a troubled child. Here's a decorated veteran, an insurrectionist, who 'disgraces' the Union flag, and it's not an issue that points to anything except him "express(ing) his rage". ??? The Doctor who diagnosed Walker might have something to say about that.

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addendum : "Walker and his supporters then went on the offensive. On April 2, 1963, a group called the Citizens Congressional Committee filed a petition with the Senate Judiciary Committee requesting an investigation of the treatment of "America's fearless patriot on the occasion of his incarceration at the instigation of the Department of Justice."

[April 1963 Dallas Oswald is photographed with rifle and pistol holding pristine copies of the worker and the militant]

Nine days later, on April 9, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the famous shooting incident occurred.

Meanwhile, the American Medical Association was receiving "a volume of letters from individual physicians" charging Dr. Charles E. Smith, the Army psychiatrist -- who commented on Walker's mental state at the time of the Oxford violence -- with unethical conduct: that he made an improper diagnosis without a personal examination. Dr. Smith was cleared by the AMA on July 4, 1963. He said that news stories of Walker's "reported behavior reflects sensitivity and essentially unpredictable and seemingly bizarre outbursts of the type often observed in individuals suffering with paranoid mental disorder." The society had received 2,500 letters from physicians alleging unethical conduct by Dr. Smith. Nevertheless, the board unanimously ruled in Smith's favor."

What would the expected reaction be to an assasination(failed in the dark on a lit window framing from a short distance) attempt on Walker in these circumstances. One could view it as a publicity stunt to show how bad the opponents of Walker were, further intensifying the atmosphere within which Kennedy was assassinated(from a greater distance, more difficult circumstances, leaving an incriminating piece of evidence behind)???

IMO Walker and his supporters, and Kennedy and his, were playing a very dangerous game.

Edited March 6, 2009 by John Dolva

[Jim Root]

John

You continue to hit upon some of the same questions that have puzzled me for many years. Although I continue to speculate on many issues surrounding these topics my research has been driven and developed based upon some of the answers I have uncovered. These answers have usually lead to additional questions and additional avenues to travel.

""In 1957, General Walker was actually credited with furthering the cause of racial integration after he led federal troops integrating the schools in Little Rock, Ark. Actually, Gen. Walker led the troops only after President Eisenhower refused his resignation, historian Don E. Carleton, author of Red Scare, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "He did not want to carry out that order," Mr. Carleton said. "He did not believe in racial integration" (General Walker obituary, AP release, November 2, 1993)."

This statement seems to fit the accepted Walker story very well but upon closer examination we find that while troubled by the problems of Little Rock, Eisenhower was not a micro manager. When Eisenhower made the decision to deploy Federal Troops in Little Rock, Maxwell Taylor (Chief of Staff of the Army) was assigned the task of deciding which unit/s (and commander) would be assigned. It is my opinion that any attempted resignation by Walker would never have made it to the desk of the President and would have been handled at a much lower level making the above statement by Mr. Carleton suspect. It is at this point the story unravels in context to the reality of how the Eisenhower administration operated. Taylor's stint as Chief of Staff of the Army is highlighted by four major historical events that he had to deal with. Two of these, First Straits of Taiwan Crisis and Little Rock were assigned to Walker. In both the Little Rock event and the First Straits of Taiwan Crisis the operation was successfully carried out by Taylor's trusted protégé, Edwin Anderson Walker not, as some would have us believe, successfullly carried out by some disgruntled anti-integrationist who was unwilling to obey orders without question!

The second problem I have had with the accepted version of this story is if Walker was so strongly opposed to integration that he would have been willing to resign rather than being a part of the mandatory integration of the Army. Walker had had an opportunity to resign in protest of the integration of the Army when it occurred. I have found NO factual information which supports any display or attempt on the part of General Walker to interfere with the integration of the Army units in which he was involved. Rather, I have found a few examples where he was adamant in making sure that the opportunity existed for black soldiers to be included in some of the earliest training of elite Army units that Walker was involved in developing. Walker seems to have had no problem in providing opportunity for advancement and deployment of minorities throughout his career in the military! As a matter of fact the development of Special Forces was, in part, based upon the racial mixing of units to provide a force that could be inserted into any hot spot in the world and have the ability to blend with and operate smoothly within any population anywhere in the world. In other words, rather than being an opponent of integration in the military Walker seems to have been a whole hearted proponent of integration.

This is part of the contradiction that makes me speculate on Walker's later pro right career.

""The Liberty Lobby hastened to General Walker's defense, and blamed the Kennedy’s for waging a campaign against Walker to "reduce his prestige" and "asset value to the anti-Communist cause". "

I will continue to speculate that if Walker did in fact have contact with Oswald as he was being inserted into the Soviet Union then the Kennedy administration may have very well had a very strong reason to 'wage(ing) a campaign against Walker to 'reduce his prestige...." The problem is that the Kennedy administrations reasons may not have been the obvious one!

"April 1963 Dallas Oswald is photographed with rifle and pistol holding pristine copies of the worker and the militant"

These two magazines represent two left wing organizations that were in reality diametrically opposed to each other. The Warren Commission uses this particular fact to show how confused Oswald seems to have been in his political beliefs. On the other hand James P. Hosty's testimony before the Warren Commission shows just how precise Oswald was in his beliefs and that the FBI was aware of those precise beliefs. To take that picture further we can say that both organizations represented by those magazines had been prosecuted under the Smith Act for advocating the overthrow of the government of the United States at two very different times in History. Without going into the background of those two separate periods suffice it to say that following the assassination of JFK, Oswald was very adamant about wanting Jonathan Abt as his attorney.....an attorney that had argued Smith Act cases before the Supreme Court. It is my belief that those pictures are an important part of the story that Oswald prepared prior to his assassination attempt on Walker and that Oswald would have used those previously taken pictures in any trial that would have occurred, had Oswald been arrested for the attempted assassination Walker, to underline his motive for his attempt on the life of General Walker.

"Nine days later, on April 9, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the famous shooting incident occurred.....What would the expected reaction be to an assassination (failed in the dark on a lit window framing from a short distance) attempt on Walker in these circumstances. One could view it as a publicity stunt to show how bad the opponents of Walker were, further intensifying the atmosphere within which Kennedy was assassinated(from a greater distance, more difficult circumstances, leaving an incriminating piece of evidence behind)???""

John, I was also very puzzled by how Oswald could have missed what seemed to be such an easy shot at Walker from such a short distance away........Until I viewed the evidence more carefully.

In a read of the incident one imagines that you would have Oswald resting his rifle in a perpendicular fashion upon a wood fence firing through a window which was directly in front of the desk behind which was sitting General Walker as he was completing his income taxes. In the minds eye we get a picture of an easy shot.

From the actual evidence gathered immediately following the assassination attempt including newsreels that provide visual evidence of the scene taken the morning following the event and aired that day, pictures of the Walker home and alley reportedly taken by Walker and provided to the Warren Commission investigators by Marina Oswald (where construction was identified in the background that provided nearly exact dates of when the pictures were taken just prior to the assassination attempt on Walker) and the instructions to his (Oswald's) wife on what to do in the event that he (Oswald) was arrested for this crime (Marina Oswald has NEVER wavered from her belief that Lee had in fact attempted to kill Walker because, as she said even in her most recent interview, "because he told me he did.") we can piece together a clear picture of this attempted assassination.

The actual crime scene is much different than what is described two paragraphs above. If you imagine a line AB representing the exterior wall containing the window from which the bullet fired by Oswald would have entered the room where Walker was sitting, then line AC would be the wall that the bullet that missed Walker passed through. You will note that the exterior window wall (AB) contains point A which is also contained in the perpendicular wall AC through which the bullet fired actually passed through. Rather than placing the rifle on the planks of the wooden wall perpendicular to the target (and what would appear to be the shortest distance possible from which to fire a shot at a target behind a window) the rifle had to be placed at an extreme angle far to the right of the intended target and fired through the window that was not directly in front of the target but rather at an angle through the paned glass. The angle that was actually fired from allowed for a distortion caused by both the light and the window itself and the use of a scope would have diminished the capacity to detect the panes in the window (if a person were targeting beyond the panes) which the bullet would have to have passed through. In the event, the bullet did hit the wood surrounding one section of the window causing a slight distortion to the trajectory of the bullet which then missed its intended target.

This would appear to be a brilliant shot if it was intended to miss the target but an unfortunate occurrence for the person intending to hit his target!

Hope this sheds some light on my thoughts.

Jim Root

[Mark Knight]

"Nine days later, on April 9, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the famous shooting incident occurred.....What would the expected reaction be to an assassination (failed in the dark on a lit window framing from a short distance) attempt on Walker in these circumstances. One could view it as a publicity stunt to show how bad the opponents of Walker were, further intensifying the atmosphere within which Kennedy was assassinated(from a greater distance, more difficult circumstances, leaving an incriminating piece of evidence behind)???""

John, I was also very puzzled by how Oswald could have missed what seemed to be such an easy shot at Walker from such a short distance away........Until I viewed the evidence more carefully.

In a read of the incident one imagines that you would have Oswald resting his rifle in a perpendicular fashion upon a wood fence firing through a window which was directly in front of the desk behind which was sitting General Walker as he was completing his income taxes. In the minds eye we get a picture of an easy shot.

From the actual evidence gathered immediately following the assassination attempt including newsreels that provide visual evidence of the scene taken the morning following the event and aired that day, pictures of the Walker home and alley reportedly taken by Walker and provided to the Warren Commission investigators by Marina Oswald (where construction was identified in the background that provided nearly exact dates of when the pictures were taken just prior to the assassination attempt on Walker) and the instructions to his (Oswald's) wife on what to do in the event that he (Oswald) was arrested for this crime (Marina Oswald has NEVER wavered from her belief that Lee had in fact attempted to kill Walker because, as she said even in her most recent interview, "because he told me he did.") we can piece together a clear picture of this attempted assassination.

The actual crime scene is much different than what is described two paragraphs above. If you imagine a line AB representing the exterior wall containing the window from which the bullet fired by Oswald would have entered the room where Walker was sitting, then line AC would be the wall that the bullet that missed Walker passed through. You will note that the exterior window wall (AB) contains point A which is also contained in the perpendicular wall AC through which the bullet fired actually passed through. Rather than placing the rifle on the planks of the wooden wall perpendicular to the target (and what would appear to be the shortest distance possible from which to fire a shot at a target behind a window) the rifle had to be placed at an extreme angle far to the right of the intended target and fired through the window that was not directly in front of the target but rather at an angle through the paned glass. The angle that was actually fired from allowed for a distortion caused by both the light and the window itself and the use of a scope would have diminished the capacity to detect the panes in the window (if a person were targeting beyond the panes) which the bullet would have to have passed through. In the event, the bullet did hit the wood surrounding one section of the window causing a slight distortion to the trajectory of the bullet which then missed its intended target.

This would appear to be a brilliant shot if it was intended to miss the target but an unfortunate occurrence for the person intending to hit his target!

Hope this sheds some light on my thoughts.

Jim Root

Jim, my take on the Walker shooting is that the Walker shooting was, indeed, the "brilliant" shot you called it. With the miss, Walker gains credibility as someone who's not merely being persecuted, but as a person whom [unknown] folks are actually trying to kill. And Oswald, by missing, isn't rotting in some jail on an attempted murder rap when the time for the JFK hit comes. Thus, by NOT killing Walker, all the pieces are in place for the assassination plot to play out.

Had Oswald killed Walker, I'm sure more police resources would've been expended seeking a murderer than what went into the Walker investigation. There's no doubt in my mind that Oswald's rifle would've been discovered, traced back to Oswald, and the JFK hit may never have occurred. Or it may have occurred with a different shooter/patsy [depending upon your point of view]. But the outcome of the Walker shooting was pivotal in the JFK assassination, as far as Oswald was concerned.

Or let's look at thia another way: Suppose Oswald was already the designated shooter in the JFK assassination by April 9, 1963. While the Dallas trip wasn't completely planned out yet, suppose Oswald was picked to "do the deed" at whatever time and place was finally selected. And suppose Oswald was reluctant to make the JFK hit, but was in so deep with the plot that he's struggling to find a way out. Then comes the meeting with Volkmar Schmidt, and the talk about how, had Hitler been assassinated, a lot of human suffering might have been prevented.

Suddenly, an idea comes to Oswald's mind. Here, he's rationalized a way to both eliminate Walker--following your scenario about how Oswald already had a reason to want to kill Walker, tying into Walker's role in Oswald's defection--and, if he's caught [and based upon what Oswald told Marina, he fully expected to be caught], he'd be off the hook as the designated shooter/patsy/whatever in the JFK assassination. Sure, he'd do some time for the Walker hit, if caught; but doing time for a murder he believed in beat the hell out of doing time for a murder he didn't believe in. And according to everything Oswald said before November 22, 1963, he had no reason to want to see Kennedy dead.

Sure, it's speculation. I tend to think it's plausible speculation, based upon what we know ... as well as what we don't know. So I'd like to hear what you think along these lines, based upon your research.

Edited March 7, 2009 by Mark Knight

[Gene Kelly]

Jim:

Your work in connecting the 'dots' of Hurt, signals intelligence, McCloy and Walker is fascinating. All of these powerful military folks surrounding the orbit of Oswald is compelling. The one individual that doesn't fit (for me) is Maxwell Taylor... wasn't he a close friend of the Kennedy family (a pallbearer at RFK's funeral) and a trusted member of JFK's staff? Its difficult to believe that he'd be a part of this intrigue...leading to the assassination. Also, I have always been confused by the legend of the Walker shooting, and its meaning with respect to Dealey Plaza. Could you share your thoughts on what that event meant, and why it occurred? I do agree that Walker was not the simple JBS right-wing nut that he's portrayed to be... and both his motives and actions with regard to seeing JFK out of office are highly suspect. I am also convinced that McCloy is one of the high level sponsors/conspirators that we all strive to identify so as to understand the big questions about the murder of John Kennedy.

Gene

[John Dolva]

If he had killed Walker he would have been lynched, not shot by a deranged lone guy. Here I think the writings during his trip to the USofA are relevant. He essentially saw the minute-men as the closest to his own philosophy at that time. What he advocated was creating a trigger for a showdown.

[Jim Root]

Mark

You stated:

"Jim, my take on the Walker shooting is that the Walker shooting was, indeed, the "brilliant" shot you called it. With the miss, Walker gains credibility as someone who's not merely being persecuted, but as a person whom [unknown] folks are actually trying to kill. And Oswald, by missing, isn't rotting in some jail on an attempted murder rap when the time for the JFK hit comes. Thus, by NOT killing Walker, all the pieces are in place for the assassination plot to play out."

I believe my train of thought is much simpler, perhaps because I am such a simple minded person....... shortly after the missed assassination attempt on Walker the FBI/Office of Richard Helms begins following Oswald. I don't believe the cart goes in front of the horse in this case. The cart being the assassination of Kennedy and Oswald being the horse to carry out the assassination. Once Oswald could be identified as a potential assassin (because he had attempted to kill Walker) a group of conspirators (only those who would have information about Oswald available to them and would/could have known that Oswald would have been the one who attempted to kill Walker) could place their bets on their horse, Oswald, to assassinate the President......without ever having to ask him to do it!!!!!!

According to the CIA/Bellin letter we find that if it would have been known that Oswald had attempted to assassinate Walker then, with the other information about Oswald that was available at the time, it could have been predicted that Oswald would kill Kennedy if given the opportunity. Rather than needing to recruit an assassin all that was needed was to direct a motorcade past where Oswald was working.

FBI Agent J P Hosty's third note provided the information about where Oswald was working. This information, without Hosty's knowledge, was made available to highest levels of US Intelligence. Perhaps the most important piece in this part of my investigation is that that note has disappeared from the files of the CIA. A note has disappeared that, if available, would show exactly eho had had access to the information that it contained. I find this to be a wonderful reason that explains, very easily, why that note has disappeared.....without having to speculate on alot of other scenarios!

Mark, I am not big on the idea of a broad based conspiracy to kill the JFK. Throughout my research I have constantly looked for, and it seems have found, explanations that seem to provide for a conspiracy that invovled very few people.....but those same people would have to have been at the very top of the heap when it comes to directing intelligence assets and having access to intelligence information.

Jim Root