JL Allen Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 When I was young I connoted being an American with aspiring to those things which were the highest and the best - that our world leadership would result in wise and thoughtful guidance towards a more just and humane planet - raising the standards of dignity and opportunity for all the world's people and securing a new era of peace, negotiation and diplomacy in the place of armed conflict. As an adult, I have resigned myself to the fact that our national and international policies have degenerated towards greed, selfishness, manipulation and violent subjugation - always explained by a litany of excuses, alibis and outright lies - defining why it is that we cannot take the course which seems logical and obvious - but instead, must travel the different route which seems backwards and convoluted - bloody and destructive. It wouldn't be the first time that a great and powerful nation changed it's leadership and direction and reinterpreted the possibilities presented by it's dominance with a more militaristic, "run the table" mentality - but I never thought it would happen to my country. I was just a boy, but I KNOW where John Kennedy was taking us - and, I know what was in his heart. All of the recasting and rewriting will never change all that I knew to be true about him from that time. We set an entirely different course as a nation when he died - the WRONG course - and, we've been on it ever since... and, I believe that it will ultimately be our undoing. Our foundation has been eaten away. We no longer have a sound and secure base - we are very vulnerable - particularly subject to the whims of other nations in a financial sense. We are like an illusion with nukes. We've appeared haughty and arrogant and we antagonize when we should apologize. I'm reminded of John Lennon's words from "I'm a Loser" - "And, so it's true, pride goes before a fall... I'm telling you - so that you don't lose all..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) On 2/17/2006 at 6:30 AM, John Simkin said: It is true that I have posted a great deal about corruption in American politics. It is one of my main interests in history. See my pages on people like Ulysses Grant, Orville Babcock, William Belknap, William Tweed, Richard Croker, Tommy Corcoran, Bobby Baker, etc. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAgrantU.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAbabcock.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAbelknap.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAtweed.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAcroker.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKcorcoran.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKbakerB.htm It is not of course anti-American to be against corruption. For example, see my pages on people who exposed this corruption: for example, Thomas Nast, Charles Parkhurst, Seth Low, Lincoln Steffens, Ida Tarbell, Ida Wells, Gerald Nye, etc. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAnast.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAparkhurstC.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAlowS.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Jsteffens.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Jtarbell.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWwells.htm http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAnyeG.htm Although I believe that FDR was one of your best presidents, a great deal of corruption started during his administration. As I have pointed out, the Military-Industrial-Congressional-Intelligence Complex started in 1940 with the blessing of FDR. I believe this is closely connected to the death of JFK and the fortunes of the MICIC definitely revived under LBJ with the Vietnam War. George Bush is only the latest front man for the MICIC. The Democrats were responsible for a great deal of this corruption as they were the party of power for much of the 20th century. However, in recent years, the Republicans have taking over this role with Reagan and the two Bushes. Between them, they have sacrificed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people in order to satisfy the needs of their financial backers. A large percentage of these lives taken were of young American soldiers. Am I being anti-American to be concerned about that? I would have thought it is criminals like George Bush who really deserve the label of being anti-American. I have posted numerous accounts of the corruption of Tony Blair and his government. Does that make me anti-British? Blair leads a party that I was a member of for over 35 years. That does not stop me from exposing his corrupt government. I am against corruption wherever it takes place and whoever does it. We cannot build a democratic society until we root out all corruption. I had an opportunity to fix 21 links with one bump, so I did it. http://spartacus-educational.com/USAgrantU.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAbabcock.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAbelknap.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAtweed.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAcroker.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKcorcoran.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbakerB.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAnast.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAparkhurstC.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAlowS.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/Jsteffens.htm (presumed. Above link showed J. Steffens) http://spartacus-educational.com/Jtarbell.htm (presumed. IDA Tarbell) http://spartacus-educational.com/FWWwells.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAnyeG.htm John Simkin wrote: "It is true I have not posted much on the Forum about the KGB or Stalinism. After all, unlike George Bush and the CIA I do not consider them a serious threat to my liberty. However, I have written a lot about them on my website. For example, see the following:" http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSnkvd.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSstalin.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSpurge.htm "These two index pages will take you to the other pages on the evils of communism." http://spartacus-educational.com/ColdWar.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/Russian-Revolution.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/Russia.htm Edited May 18, 2017 by Michael Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 On 2/16/2006 at 2:13 AM, John Simkin said: Some people, myself included, see George Bush and his Neo Cons as the new fascists. They definitely pose a serious threat to world peace. Like the Nazis, the New Cons are backed by those corporations keen to make war profits (see the outrageous contract that Bush has given Halliburton). As you appear to be a supporter of the Neo Cons, maybe you can answer the following questions. (1) Did you approve of the CIA plot to overthrow the democratically elected government of Guatemala in 1954. (2) Did you support the creation of a blacklist in the 1950s that stopped people with left-wing opinions from working in the media? (3) Did you approve of the American invasion of Vietnam? (4) Did you approve of the CIA plot to overthrow the democratically elected government of Chile in 1973? (5) Did you support Reagan’s decision to fund the Contras in Nicaragua by illegal arms sales to Iran? (6) Did you support Reagan’s funding of death squads in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala in the 1980s? (7) Did you support the illegal invasion of Iraq? (8) Do you support the illegal occupation of Guantanamo Bay in Cuba? (9) Do you agree with holding people in prison without without access to any court, legal counsel or family visits? Do you agree with them being tortured? http://web.amnesty.org/pages/guantanamobay-index-eng John, Just curious. Do you support Putin's theft of Crimea and his "secret", ongoing invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014? Do you support the FSB's blowing up of Russian apartment buildings (killing 300 Russian citizens) so that martial law could be declared, the upcoming elections be canceled, and then-prime minister Putin be automatically appointed president when Yeltsen "decided" to retire during said period of martial law? Do you support Putin's meddling in the recent U.S. elections so that his "Useful Idiot" Trump could become president? Etc? -- Tommy PS In other words, is the United States of America the only evil government in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said: John, Just curious. Do you support Putin's theft of Crimea and his "secret", ongoing invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014? Do you support the FSB's blowing up of Russian apartment buildings (killing 300 Russian citizens) so that martial law could be declared, the upcoming elections be canceled, and then-prime minister Putin be automatically appointed president when Yeltsen "decided" to retire during said period of martial law? Do you support Putin's meddling in the recent U.S. elections so that his "Useful Idiot" Trump could become president? Etc? -- Tommy PS In other words, is the United States of America the only evil government in the world? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Michael Clark said: Huh? Michael, I was responding for Tim (who hasn't been here in a coon's age) to Mr. Simpkin's first post, this thread. What do you not understand? Or are you prohibited by the monitors from communicating with me any further on this forum (except, perchance, by PM)? I mean, you did kinda cryptically allude to that possible sad state of affairs (for you, not me) on another thread (or two) a couple of days ago. Or did I just over-optimisticlly infer that? -- Thomas Edited May 18, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said: Michael, I was responding for Tim (who hasn't been here in a coon's age) to Mr. Simpkin's first post, this thread. What do you not understand? Or are you prohibited by the monitors from communicating with me any further on this forum (except, perchance, by PM)? I mean, you did kinda cryptically allude to that possible sad state of affairs (for you, not me) on another thread (or two) a couple of days ago. Or did I just over-optimisticlly infer that? -- Thomas I haven't PM'd you. I won't. This and my previous post are at variance with the guidance given me. I was overcome by incredulity. Edited May 18, 2017 by Michael Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Michael Clark said: I haven't PM'd you. I won't. This and my previous post are at variance with the guidance give me. I was overcome by credulity. Michael, Well, evidently (and I emphasize the word "evidently" because I'll have to check) you've been warned to not reply to my posts or effectively-and-cleverly get your almost-visible visage on the "front page" again (and my most recent post ... or one which I or a like-minded member have posted in the past and which I've decided to "bump" ... off of the highly-visible Page One of our beloved JFK Assassination Debate forum by your (uhh oh, here comes another one of those tricky gerunds, folks) posting "Nice post, Toomy" , or "Huh?", or some such clever thang (sic). -- Thomas PS I never claimed that you'd PM-ed me (but you're more than welcome to -- in fact I rather look forward to it). What, pray tell, do you not understand? Edited May 18, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Thomas Graves said: Well, evidently (and I emphasize the word "evidently" because I'll have to check) you've been been warned to not reply to my posts or effectively and cleverly get your almost-visible visage on the "front page" again (and my most recent post ... or one which I or a like-minded member have posted in the past and which I've decided to "bump" ... off of the highly-visible Page One of our beloved JFK Assassination Debate forum by your (uhh oh, here comes another one of those tricky gerunds, folks) posting "Nice post, Toomy" , or "Huh?", or some such clever thang (sic). Whatever, I can't read your sentences, your mucking up this thread. Just drop it ... let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Michael Clark said: Whatever, I can't read your sentences, your mucking up this thread. Just drop it ... let it go. Michael, Feel free to PM me if you want to, but do try to "keep it civil" if you do. Your buddy, -- Thomas Now, where were we? Oh yes, you said "Huh?" So: What do you not....understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomas Graves Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) On 5/18/2017 at 0:56 PM, Thomas Graves said: Michael, Feel free to PM me if you want to, but do try to "keep it civil" if you do. Your buddy, -- Thomas Now, where were we? Oh yes, you said "Huh?" So: What do you not....understand? bumped in the hope of arriving at mutual enlightenment and / or "closure" on the ... "conversation" Edited May 20, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Tommy, I fixed 19 URL links. Out of necessity It was bumped. That wa a good thing. The rest is bad. let it go. Cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) On 5/18/2017 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Graves said: John [Simpkin], Just curious. Do you support or in any way condone / excuse Putin's theft of Crimea and his "secret", still-ongoing invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014? What do you think about Putin's FSB's blowing up, in 1999, those Russian apartment buildings (killing 300 Russian citizens) so that martial law could be declared, the Second Chechen War could begin, the upcoming Russian elections be canceled, and then-prime minister Putin be automatically appointed president when Yeltsen "decided" to retire during said period of martial law? Do you support Putin's meddling in the recent U.S. elections so that his "Useful Idiot" Trump could become president? Etc? -- Tommy PS In other words, is the United States of America the only evil government in the world? edited and bumped for Mr. Simpkin Edited May 20, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thomas Graves said: John [Simpkin], Just curious. Do you support Putin's theft of Crimea and his "secret", still-ongoing invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014? Do you support the FSB's blowing up of Russian apartment buildings (killing 300 Russian citizens) so that martial law could be declared, the upcoming elections be canceled, and then-prime minister Putin be automatically appointed president when Yeltsen "decided" to retire during said period of martial law? Do you support Putin's meddling in the recent U.S. elections so that his "Useful Idiot" Trump could become president? Etc? -- Tommy PS In other words, is the United States of America the only evil government in the world? bumped for Mr. Simpkin Tommy, He covered a lot of that in this thread. You should have rad it first. Cheers, Michael Edited May 20, 2017 by Michael Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Michael Clark said: Tommy, He covered a lot of that in this thread. You should have rad it first. Cheers, Michael Michael, Are you answering for Mr. Simpkin? Are you his official spokesperson? -- Tommy Thomas Edited May 20, 2017 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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