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  2. Jim, Did you read Dou'gs post? Is this the same ex CIA affiliated Larry C.Johnson who accused Michelle Obama of using Caucasian slurs, which was later unproven, as well as an unfounded accusation just prior to the election in October 2008 that Obama used the word "whitey"? The same Larry C. Johnson who also pieced together words from John Kerry on a 1971 Dick Cavett interview to say that Kerry admitted he "raped for pleasure" while serving in Vietnam?
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  4. If I remember correctly in the late fifties and early sixties, we used flash bulbs which fired only once, so there was indeed an additional cost if you used one unnecessarily. Flash cubes and built in flash didn't come in until much later.
  5. I think it is well accepted now that Hoover had compromising tapes and or recordings on JFK
  6. This is a really interesting story. Because it shows just how invested in the cover story CBS was, even before the WR was published. Which is really something since that concept violates ever journalistic standard out there. Florence Graves was a truly fine journalist who was quite courageous in taking this issue on. For me, amid all the interesting revelations in the story, the one that is key is the Bernie Birnbaum quote: CBS was working on this 1964 program months in advance! Talk about being a lapdog. The other thing is that Salant switched their policy on outtakes, and lied about it, and he then made up the ridiculous comparison with a reporter's notes. As I observe in the article, this is no surprise since we know Salant was a xxxx on the JFK case from the 1967 four parter where he lied about McCloy being a consultant. Amazing what the JFK case does to the MSM isn't it? https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/cbs-and-their-1964-jfk-cover-up (Again, thanks to Bart and Malcolm)
  7. Thanks Rob. Its funny that you would say that about Kennedy's foreign policy. I started doing this about five years ago. My first major presentation on it was at Cyril Wecht's symposium in Pittsburgh in 2013. It was new to everyone since the research community was (and is) obsessed with Vietnam and Cuba only. But after about the third one I did, someone came up to my and said, "Nice job Jim. But I would wager that if you did that with all aspects of Kennedy's presidency, you would get the same result." I would have to say, I tend to agree with that today. BTW, now that I have done all this research, and its out there on some platforms, it renders John McAdams' comment during our debate even more ridiculous. I said that "Kennedy was the most liberal president since FDR." He said, no, LBJ and Truman were more liberal than he was. Truman dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and essentially reversed FDR's policy toward the USSR thus initiating the Cold War, which Kennedy was trying to thaw at the time of his death. As per LBJ, OMG, there are three or four million dead Vietnamese who's relatives would disagree. And that does not even consider Brazil, Dominican Republic, Greece, and Indonesia. Thus are the wages of the Single Bullet Fantasy.
  8. What a great idea to pass that along to Omar. I hope she reads it and gets back to you. For me Kennedy's foreign policy remains one of the most interesting things about his presidency. A noble task, to educate our congressional reps about it. Omar of all people should find it fascinating.
  9. Jim - you post something written by Larry C Johnson. I did some sleuthing as I always do when I read something controversial. Honestly I wouldn’t trust anything he writes.
  10. Sure, it is in Mrs. Geneva Hine's testimony for the Warren Commission (below). Darnell film was taken not longer than about 30 seconds after the last shot and it is reasonable to assume that the doorway scene in Darnell which still contains Shelley, Sanders, Frazier, Lovelady, Williams, Molina, Reese, and Stanton (her figure is much disputed though) dissolved soon after. The people mentioned by Mrs. Hine were back on the second floor in about 2 minutes, long before Inspector Sawyer arrived. Please note that Campbell and possibly Reid saw Oswald in the small storage room in the front of the first floor as he was returning to the building; Oswald possibly left his post at the western wall even a bit sooner than other doorway occupants making his total stay in the doorway less than a minute which also explains that no one (except Frazier and possibly Shelley) spotted him. Mr. BALL. Do you have any definite recollection of Mrs. Reid coming in? Miss HINE. No, sir; I only saw four or five people that came by and they all came and were all talking about how terrible it was. Mr. BALL. Do you remember their names? Miss HINE. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. Who were they? Miss HINE. Mr. Williams, Mr. Molina (spelling), Miss Martha Reid, Mrs. Reid, Mrs. Sarah Stanton, and Mr. Campbell; that's all I recall, sir.
  11. Thanks for that, here it is; Mr. SKELTON. After those two shots, and the car came on down closer to the triple underpass, well, there was another shot--two more shots I heard, but one of them--I saw a bullet, or I guess it was a bullet--I take for granted it was--- hit in the left front of the President's car on the cement, and when it did, the smoke carried with it And here's another via James C. Bowles; DPD SGT Stavis Ellis (motorcycle cop in front of Limo near underpass): Then I looked back toward the President. They had made it around the corner off Houston and were now headed west on Elm in my direction. They had passed the worst of the crowding, and were then coming more into the open, but they were moving real slowly. That's when the first shot was fired. I was looking directly at the President, and I saw the concrete burst into a cloud of dust when that bullet hit the curb Is Agent Hickey on the Queen Mary looking down at something that struck the road?
  12. What about Royce G. Skelton? He testified to the WC that he saw something hit the pavement, and his statement on the 22nd says something to the same effect.
  13. Pence wore a wire. George Webb told us over a year ago. It’s a Deep State. Indiana that is. Dan Quayle is from Indiana. He was Bush’s insurance. Dan was on the hook to his benefactor as described here. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-11-04-me-984-story.html Pence likely had the same benefactors from Indiana. That’s how you rise through the ranks in Indiana. Pence was the Deep States insurance. And then there was this. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/06/29/vice-president-pence-shakes-up-his-staff/ The most important thing is to remember is that George Webb said this last year. It means quite a lot.
  14. So we go from Chaney on 11/22/63 on film "shot in the face" to 1975 from the FBI, "saw his head explode"?
  15. A couple of graduate assistant's at a mid-major college poli-sci/history department would be a nice start. Like that would ever happen.
  16. I've collected all the pertinent witness statements on my website, Ron, and sorted them by proximity of the witness to the limo. Chaney and Douglas Jackson were two of the main witnesses, but were never asked to write a report by the DPD, and never interviewed by the FBI till more than a decade later, when their omission from the WC's records had become public knowledge, and a bit of an embarrassment. From patspeer.com, chapter 5b: James Chaney rode to the right and rear of the President. Although he was the closest witness behind the President at the time of the shooting and had a private conversation with Jack Ruby the next day, Chaney was never questioned by the Warren Commission. (11-22-63 interview with KLIF radio, reportedly around 12:45 PM--but not broadcast at that time--as transcribed by Harold Weisberg from the KLIF album The Fateful Hours) "On the first shot we thought it was a motorcycle backfire. I looked to my left and so did President Kennedy, looking back over his left shoulder, and when the second shot struck him in the face then we knew someone was shooting at the President." (When asked what happened after the President was hit) "He slumped forward in the car. He fell forward in the seat there." (When asked Mrs. Kennedy's reaction) "I don't know. When I seen that he was hit I went on up to tell Chief Curry's group there that he had been hit there, and we took him on to the hospital from there." (When then asked if he saw where the bullet had come from) "No, all I knew it came over my right shoulder."(Note: some sources have it that Chaney mentioned “a third shot that was fired that (he) did not see hit the President” and that he did see “Governor Connally’s shirt erupt in blood..” in one of his first interviews, but I can not find a primary source for these quotes.) (11-22-63 interview with Bill Lord on WFAA television, apparently in the early evening) “I was riding on the right rear fender... We had proceeded west on Elm Street at approximately 15-20 miles per hour. We heard the first shot. I thought it was a motorcycle backfiring and uh I looked back over to my left and also President Kennedy looked back over his left shoulder. Then, the, uh, second shot came, well, then I looked back just in time to see the President struck in the face by the second bullet. He slumped forward into Mrs. Kennedy’s lap, and uh, it was apparent to me that we were being fired upon. I went ahead of the President’s car to inform Chief Curry that the President had been hit. And then he instructed us over the air to take him to Parkland Hospital and he had Parkland Hospital stand by. I went on up ahead of the, to notify the officers that were leading the escort that he had been hit and we're gonna have to move out." (When asked if he saw the person who fired on the President) "No sir, it was back over my right shoulder.” (11-23-63 article in the Houston Post) "Dallas Police Motorcycle Officer J.M. Chaney told a Houston Post reporter that he was riding about six feet from the right rear fender of the President's car. He heard two shots that seemed to come over his right shoulder, he said. He said the President turned his face around over his left shoulder to look back after the first shot and was hit by the second shot in the left side of the head. Chaney said he did not know if the first shot hit anybody or not." (11-24-63 article in the Houston Chronicle, posted online by Chris Davidson) "A motorcycle policeman just six feet from President Kennedy when he was hit said the assassin's first shot missed entirely. The second of the three shots felled Kennedy, said patrolman James M. Chaney. He was six feet to the right and front of the President's car, moving about 15 miles an hour while rounding a curve. The shot, said Chaney, came from the sixth floor of a warehouse building about 50 feet or less behind the President's car. From the sixth floor to the President, the bullet traveled about 110 feet, Chaney estimated. Chaney was an infantryman in Europe during World War II, with experience in sharpshooting. 'When the first shot was fired, I thought it was a backfire,' Chaney said. Everyone looked around. The President was looking back over his left shoulder. A second or two after the first shot, the second shot hit him. 'It was like you hit him in the face with a tomato. Blood went all over the car. There was screaming and yelling. A secret service man yelled 'Let's get out of here!'' Chaney said the motorcade stopped momentarily after the shots rang out. A policeman ran between two cars with his pistol drawn, heading toward the building. 'I sped to the lead car carrying Chief (Jesse) Curry and Forrest Sorrels, chief of the secret service division of the Treasury Department in the Dallas area. I told them the President had been hit and it appeared bad,' Chaney said. 'A piece of his skull was lying on the floor of the car,' Chaney said." (Article in the 12-2-63 issue of Newsweek, presumed to be based on an 11-22-63 interview of Chaney, by motorcade witness Charles Roberts) (On the first shot) "'I thought it was a backfire,' said Dallas Patrolman James M. Chaney, who was riding a motorcycle 6 feet from the right rear fender of the President's car." The President jerked his head around...Then (came) the second shot and his head exploded in blood..." (12-8-63 AP article by Sid Moody) "His head erupted in blood" said Dallas patrolman James Chaney, who was 6 feet away from the president." (The Torch is Passed, a book by the Associated Press put out in December 63) "'His head exploded in blood,' motorcycle officer James Chaney later would say." (3-25-64 testimony of Marrion Baker before the Warren Commission, 3H242-270) “I talked to Jim Chaney, and he made the statement that the two shots hit Kennedy first and then the other one hit the Governor.” (Taped interview of Chaney with researcher Gil Toft, presumably from 1971, as transcribed by Josiah Thompson and posted on the Education Forum, 1-4-12. On 4-3-14, a slightly different version of this transcript was presented by Larry Rivera and Jim Fetzer on the Veterans Today website. They credited this interview to "Whitney," someone working for researcher Fred Newcomb, however) (When asked if Kennedy's limousine came to a stop during the shooting) "I don’t know whether the lead car ever stopped or not. I know that... I mean Kennedy’s car. The one behind them apparently did because an officer could run from the left hand side in front of me. I know I stopped. Whatever happened there. I know Hargis, one of the officers riding escort on the other side, run across in front of me...Whether or not the lead car stopped... I don’t believe that it did. It slowed down though. What was this agent’s name? Clint Hill?" (Continuing his thought) "Slowed down enough that he did get on that car. Now whether he was on there or not on... Several different times during the procession there he would run up and jump on those little steps and ride there for a couple of seconds and jump off. It all depended on how fast it was going along and where we were at. So whether... I don’t believe that it actually stopped. It could have but I just don’t... The second car... cause I recall it was Officer Hargis jumped off his motor and run across in front of me... I don’t recall myself stopping but as I stopped--to think of it I must have come almost to a stop for Hargis to have got off his motor over on the left-hand side and run between those two cars and run in front of me. Apparently, I did too. I don’t recall stopping but I must have." (When asked if Kennedy's brain matter sprayed everywhere) "Well, it was all over with as soon as you see it. It did splatter everything." (9-12-75 FBI report) “Chaney stated that as the President’s car passed the…(TSBD), he was four to six feet from the President’s right shoulder. He heard three evenly spaced noises coming seconds apart, which at first he thought to be motorcycle backfire. Upon hearing the second noise, he was sure it was not a motorcycle backfire. When he heard the third noise he saw the President’s head “explode” and realized the noises were gunshots. He said that the shots did not come from his immediate vicinity and is positive that all the shots came from behind him.” (9-17-75 FBI report, FBI file 62-109060, sec 181, p168-170) “after making a left turn off Houston Street and shortly after the car had passed the School Book Depository, Chaney heard a noise which sounded like one of the motorcycles close to the President’s car had backfired…Chaney said he glanced to his left at the two motorcycles on the opposite side of the President’s car…Within a few seconds after Chaney heard the first noise, he heard a noise again and turned to his right to try and determine what the noise was and where it was coming from…Chaney said he then looked straight ahead to avoid colliding with the curb and presidential car and then looked at the President just as he heard a third noise. Chaney said while he was looking at President Kennedy, he saw his head “explode.” Chaney said he was positive that all the noises he heard were coming from behind his motorcycle and none of these noises came from the side or the front of the position in which Chaney was located. Chaney said the noises were evenly spaced.” Douglas Jackson rode on the far right of the President. (Notes written on the night of 11-22-63 as reprinted in The Kennedy Assassination Tapes, 1979): Officer C “we turned west onto Elm Street. Drove only a short way traveling very slowly. About that time I heard what I thought was a car back fire and I looked around and then to the President’s car in time for the next explosion and saw Mr. Connally jerk back to his right and it seemed that he look right at me. I could see a shocked expression on his face and I thought 'Someone is shooting at them.' I began stopping my motor and looking straight ahead first at the Railroad overpass and saw only one Policeman standing on the track directly over the street. I looked then back to my right and behind me then looked back toward Mr. Kennedy and saw him hit in the head; he appeared to have been hit just above the right ear. The top of his head flew off away from me. Mrs. Kennedy pulled him toward her. Mrs. Connally pulled Mr. Connally down and she slid down into the seat. I knew that the shooting was coming from my right rear and I looked back that way but I never did look up. Looking back to the front again I saw the Secret Service Agent lying down across the car over Mr. and Mrs. Kennedy, the presidential limousine was beginning to pick up speed and the Secret Service men were running past the presidential car drawing their guns as they ran. I said to Jim Chaney "Let's go with them" and we sped away, he pulled past the President's car and up toward Chief Curry's car.” (a 1971 interview of Jackson by "Whitney," someone working for researcher Fred Newcomb, as presented by Larry Rivera and Jim Fetzer on the Veterans Today website, 4-3-14) (When asked how he liked watching the Zapruder film) "I liked it. The only thing is I thought that caravan stopped and it didn’t." (As quoted by Fred Newcomb in Murder from Within, an unpublished manuscript from 1974) "Mr. Connally was looking toward me. And about that time then the second shot went off. That's the point when I knew that somebody was shooting at them because that was the time he [Connally] got hit - because he jerked. I was looking directly at him…he was looking…kind of back toward me and…he just kind of flinched." "…that car just all but stopped…just a moment." (9-17-75FBI report, FBI file 62-109060, sec 181, p171-173) “As the presidential vehicle was proceeding down Elm Street, and Jackson was turning the corner from Houston to Elm Street, he heard a loud report which he first thought to be a motorcycle backfire. He looked at the Presidential car to see what the reaction was and observed Texas Governor John Connally turn to his right in the car. At the same time he heard a second noise and saw Connally jerk to his right. At this point, Jackson had just rounded the corner from Houston to Elm Street and he recognized the second noise as a definite gunshot. At this point, he was 15 to 20 feet away from the Presidential vehicle and he stopped his motorcycle in the street and looked toward the railroad overpass, directly in front of the Presidential car. He observed a police officer with his hands on his hips, looking toward the Presidential car. As this appeared normal, he then looked to his right and rear in the direction of the Texas School Book Depository and the intersection of Houston and Elm Street and observed many bystanders falling to the ground. He looked toward the Presidential vehicle and at the same time heard a third shot fired. He observed President Kennedy struck in the head above his right ear and the impact of the bullet exploded the top portion of his head, toward the left side of the Presidential vehicle. Jackson immediately knew that Kennedy had been hit and that the shot had been fired from his right rear. He turned and looked back at the intersection of Houston and Elm Street, however, did not look up at the windows in any of the buildings. When he looked back toward the Presidential car, a Secret Service agent was climbing onto the trunk of the vehicle and the car was picking up speed. Jackson then told Officer Chaney that they should go with the vehicle and Chaney proceeded forward to Chief Curry's car and then cleared the way toward Parkland Hospital...Jackson advised he had recognized three distinct noises at the time President Kennedy was shot and could identify two as definitely being gunfire. He further stated he is positive the shot that struck President Kennedy in the head was fired from the right rear, the vicinity of the Texas School Book Building."
  17. Guess They were omitted from the w o. I know I'm going off topic in a thread I started a bit but it is related via Chaney, McLain, Hargis. If they were all called together immediately afterwards, and told what they saw by the SS as opposed to what they did, it was a conspiracy. (Sh.). (Not a theory). Implicating Secret Service involvement.
  18. Ron, CBLA is worse than useless. As you can see by reading some analysis by informed people. Besides the problems in segregation by the cooling process, besides the huge error Guinn made in his characterization of WCC MC ammo, he clearly cherry picked the elements he chose to quantify. What makes this all even worse is that in a back up chart he did for the HSCA, he inadvertently proved he knew nothing about segregation in the cooling process--which BTW, Gary deals with quite well in his Federal Lawyer article. Guinn used antimony as one of the key metal traces in the JFK case. He said that well, a trace from JBC's wrist and from CE 399 are pretty close in ppm. Only 36 ppm apart. Now, if this was science one would expect that PPM differential to be fairly constant, especially if you are convicting someone in a murder case. Its not. Not even close. In one bullet on his chart the PPM ranged as far as 304 ppm apart. Almost ten times the ratio. In another it was over 600 ppm apart. WTF! And one of the antimony levels in a sample bullet had 869 ppm, which was very close to the 833 antimony ppm in CE 399. In other words only 36 ppm apart. Just like the JBC fragment. Is this a match then with a bullet not ever involved, or even fired? (Stewart Galanor, Cover up p. 43) We are supposed to think that no one on the HSCA saw this problem? We are supposed to think Guinn missed it? The truth is Guinn made a reputation for himself and a lot of money afterwards acting as a trial consultant. They made between 1-2 K per day plus expenses in those days. Unfortunately, there has been a lot of this in the JFK case.
  19. According to another motorcycle cop, (McLain) they were all rounded up by the secret service and interviewed. When the Secret Service told them what they saw didn't happen, McLain says in the interview below "got up and walked out". From that I gather there were certain things said that were rather awkward, possibly like what Chaney said in the above clip. Short interview excerpt below; https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4528444/dpd-motocycle-officer-hb-mclain-07-16-2015
  20. Speaking of Beyond Theory. There are multiple aspects. Oswald couldn't get from his rooming house on Beckley to where Tippit was shot to the Texas Theater in the time allotted by the Warren Omission. Fact. Proven by others elsewhere. Don't believe me? Look for yourself. I'm not making it up. It's not a theory that he could, somehow, it's a Fact he couldn't.
  21. IT would be a very difficult endeavor but worth it. You would need at least three people. Two sorters and filers and one guy to scan all day.
  22. This is a disgrace: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/butina-spot-and-assess-exclude-testimony-denied Clearly, the FBI though the judge would let her off with time served. So they come in at the last minute with a new cockamamie idea. Sick.
  23. A Mae Brussells/John Judge conspiracy research center. Wow! That would be something. Maybe someone with the means to make that happen will do so sooner rather than later.
  24. Doug, when I saw Barbara Walters name listed as someone who defended Cohn when his corruption finally resulted in his disbarment, I was curious about such a friendship. I too think Barbara Walters is the ultimate shameless self promoter and certainly not someone interested in too much beyond that endeavor. I have a guess feeling that her father interacted with many shady characters in his New York club ownership era. Those connections of course would at some point interconnect with Mob lawyer Cohn. William F.Buckley defends Cohn in Cohn's disbarment fight? What is THAT all about? Buckley defending a mob lawyer?
  25. When you have three reputable sources on the CBLA and NAA from experts in the field to the now less than supreme court, and others I believe, it becomes convincing that the theory might be true, or even proven to some. Beyond Theory. Useless in analysis of the JFK assassination.
  26. Sorry I don't remember reading about him if maybe I have Tony, that happens with age. But wondering if you or anyone else might know if he made a written report, a statement, an affidavit. Did the Warren Commission report mention him? Or was he omitted?
  27. This is where JFK gave his last public speech on the morning of 11/22/63 outside the Hotel Texas. Where he and LBJ spent the night. https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fort-Worth-Unveils-Kennedy-Statue-in-Gen-Worth-Square-177909211.html It's just really hard for me to believe Hoover flew in so close to the scene of the crime the night before to brief the Texas oil men who some think might have financed part of the assassination. Close to ridiculous given what's known today. JMO.
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