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  2. That was a good response and has plenty of merit. I would argue that separate and unconnected factions can kill a President, and his brother, and MLK, or Malcolm X. The factions might be rouge CIA operatives in one instance, the Chicago Mafia in another, and some especially nutty branch of the KKK in the third. What becomes unbelievable though is the length and effectiveness of the subsequent cover-up. In my view, and as far as I can tell, in the view of others here, none of the separate factions had the time, financial resources, organizational abilities, and with most of the players now dead from old age, the motivation to keep the cover-up going for so long. If their is at least some, though still off the record, acceptance by the MSM and Government Agencies, that the assassinations above were not the work of loan nuts, the separate faction theory then garnered more acceptance. (ie. LHO, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, as loan nuts seems less likely than Rogue CIA members, the Mafia, or KKK affiliates with the initial reluctance to release all files.) At this point though (2019) there is still a cover up. The individuals in the separate factions are mostly all dead, and any resources they might have had to effect a cover-up in the early years would surely be exhausted at this point, therefore the ongoing cover-up must be institutional. If the cover-up is at the institutional level, then examining the individuals that control the resources of the institutions might provide guidance that point to the ultimate perpetrators. In a general sense, where the institutions include government agencies, corporations, foundations, religious orders, and various think tanks or societies, the same family names keep popping up (and as a control, some names do not "pop-up" at all.) If you look at the Bush family, for example, the idea that it is a multi-generational crime syndicate is hardly preposterous. Decades before the JFK assassination, there were Bush and related family members involved in all sorts of suspicious activities, from WWI war profiteering to trading with the Nazis. If we just look from 1963 forward, we have Poppy's possible involvement in the JFK assassination, then he is in the Nixon White House, October Surprise, Reagan Assassination attempt, and Iran Contra. His son is President when 9/11 happens and the 2nd Gulf War starts. On the periphery of all these events the same names keep showing up, some related to the Bush family and some not. Some distant, like Wirt Walker and some close, like Marvin Bush. The evidence suggests that the Bush extended family has been involved in some nefarious activities for decades. It is not unreasonable to conclude that they are not the only extended family (vertically and horizontally in a family tree) that might be involved in many of history's most notorious events.
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  4. Here is a list of the Cosa Nostra 1957 Apalachin meeting attendees. How accurate it is is debatable of course. Please note however these interesting points of the list. Dallas representative Joe Civello is listed as representing New Orleans' mob boss Carlos Marcello.Joseph "Joe" Civello - Dallas Civello Family Boss (New Orleans Family caporegime, representative of New Orleans Boss Carlos "Little Man" Marcello. Dallas, Texas) Also read what Sam Giancana told another mafioso days after the meeting. That a bust like the one in Apalachin would never have happened in his district because they had the "county all locked up." Can you imagine how many police and judges and other officials had to have been bought and controlled by the Mafia for their leader to claim control over such a massively populated area as Cook County Illinois? Notice also the name Russell Bufalino. The crime boss who hires Frank Sheeran the hit man depicted in the new film " The Irishman." The Apalachin Meeting was a historic summit of the American mafia held on November 14, 1957 at the home of mobster Joseph "Joe the Barber" Barbara in Apalachin, New York. It was attended by roughly 100 mafia crime bosses from the United States, Canada and Italy. Expensive cars with license plates from around the country aroused the curiosity of the local and state law enforcement, who raided the meeting, causing mafiosi to flee into the woods and the surrounding area of the Apalachin estate. Over 60 underworld bosses were detained and indicted due to the disastrous meeting. Joseph "The Barber" Barbara - Northeastern Barbara Family Boss and Summit host, Apalachin, N.Y. Rosario "Russell" Bufalino - Northeastern Family Underboss and Summit organizer (Kingston, Pennsylvania, future Northeastern Boss) Dominick Alaimo - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Pittston, Pennsylvania) Angelo J. Sciandra - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Pittston, Pennsylvania) Ignatius Cannone - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Endwell, N.Y.) Anthony "The Gov" Guarnieri - Northeastern Barbara Family Soldier (Johnston City, N.Y., future Caporegime) James "Dave" Ostico - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Pittston, Pennsylvania, future Underboss) Pasquale "Patsy" Turrigiano - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Endicott, N.Y.) Emanuel "Manny" Zicari - Northeastern Barbara Family Caporegime (Endicott, N.Y., Barbara's bottling plant manager) Salvatore "Sam" Monachino - Northeastern Barbera Family Soldier (Auburn, N.Y.) Pasquale "Patsy" Monachino - Northeastern Barbara Family Soldier (Auburn, N.Y.) Pasquale "Patsy" Sciortino - Northeastern Barbara Family Soldier (Auburn, N.Y.) Bartolo "Bart" Guccia - Northeastern Barbara Family Associate (Endicott, N.Y., Barbara estate overseer and handyman) Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonanno - N.Y. Bonanno Family Boss (Long Island, N.Y., present Commission chairman, 1951-64) Giovanni "John" Bonventre - N.Y. Bonanno Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., former Underboss, semi-retired in Sicily) (Brooklyn, N.Y.) Anthony "Tony" Riela - N.Y. Bonanno Family Caporegime (West Orange, N.J., faction leader) Natale "Joe Diamonds" Evola - N.Y. Bonanno Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., future Boss) Vito "Don Vito" Genovese - N.Y. Genovese Family Boss (Atlantic Highlands, N.J.) Gerardo "Jerry" Catena - N.Y. Genovese Family Underboss (Orange, N.J., faction leader) Michele "Big Mike" Miranda - N.Y. Genovese Family Consigliere (Forest Hills, N.Y.) Salvatore "Charles" Chiri - N.Y. Genovese Family Caporegime (Bergen, N.J., faction leader) Carlo "Don Carlo" Gambino - N.Y. Gambino Family Boss (Brooklyn, N.Y.) Joseph "Staten Island Joe" Riccobono - N.Y. Gambino Family Consigliere (Staten Island, N.Y.) Paul "Big Paul" Castellano - N.Y. Gambino Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., future Boss) Carmine "The Doctor" Lombardozzi - N.Y. Gambino Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y.) Armand "Tommy" Rava - N.Y. Gambino Family Caporegime (Brooklyn, N.Y., Anastasia loyalist, killed soon after Apalachin) Vincent "Nunzio" Rao - N.Y. Lucchese Family Consigliere (Yonkers, N.Y.) Giovanni "Big John" Ormento - N.Y. Lucchese Family Caporegime (Lido Beach, N.Y.) Joseph "Joe Palisades" Rosato - N.Y. Lucchese Family Caporegime (Jackson Heights, N.Y.) Joseph "Don Peppino" Profaci - N.Y. Profaci Family Boss (Long Island, N.Y.) Joseph "Fat Joe/Joe Malyak" Magliocco - N.Y. Profaci Family Underboss (East Islip, N.Y., successor to Profaci) Salvatore "Sam" Tornabe - N.Y. Profaci Family Caporegime (New York, N.Y., died December 30, 1957) Frank Majuri - N.J. DeCavalcante Family Underboss (Elizabeth, N.J., Amari regime Underboss, stepped down May 1957, then Underboss in DeCavalcante regime) Louis "Fat Lou" LaRasso - N.J. DeCavalcante Family Underboss (Linden, N.J., Delmore regime Underboss as of May, 1957) John C. Montana - Buffalo Magaddino Family Underboss (Olean, N.Y., He was the #2 man in the crime family during Magaddino's regime. Montana was put on the shelf by Magaddino around 1958, Magaddino felt betrayed by Montana who wanted to step down after all the publicity from Apalachin) Antonino "Nino" Magaddino - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Niagara Falls, N.Y., future Consigliere) Rosario "Roy" Carlisi - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Buffalo, N.Y., brother of future Chicago Outfit Boss Sam "Wings" Carlisi) James "Jimmy" LaDuca - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Lewiston, N.Y., Magaddino son in law) Samuel "Sam" Lagattuta - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Buffalo, N.Y.) Dominick D'Agostino - Buffalo Magaddino Family Caporegime (Niagara Falls, N.Y.) Frank Valenti - Rochester Valenti Family Underboss (Rochester, N.Y., Pittsburgh Family Soldier) Constenze "Stanley" Valenti - Rochester Valenti Family Boss (Rochester, N.Y., Pittsburgh Family Soldier) Joseph Falcone - Buffalo or Rochester Family Capo (Utica, N.Y., faction leader) Salvatore Falcone - Buffalo or Rochester Family Soldier (Utica, N.Y., Joseph's brother) Rosario "Roy" Mancuso - Buffalo or Rochester Family Soldier (Utica, N.Y.) Michael "Mike" Genovese - Pittsburgh LaRocca Family Caporegime (Gibsonia, Pennsylvania, future Boss) Gabriel "Kelly" Mannarino - Pittsburgh LaRocca Family Caporegime (New Kensington, Pennsylvania, future Underboss) Joseph "Joe" Ida - Philadelphia Bruno Family Boss (Highland Park, N.J., fled to Sicily in 1957 after Apalachin, leaving Antonio "Mr. Miggs" Polina as Acting Boss. Stepped down as Boss in 1959 due to publicity, retired to Sicily leaving Angelo Bruno as his successor) Dominick Olivetto - Philadelphia Bruno Family Underboss (Camden, N.J., faction leader, stepped down 1959 for new regime) John Scalish - Cleveland Scalish Family Boss (Cleveland, Ohio) John DeMarco - Cleveland Scalish Family Consigliere (Shaker Heights, Ohio) Frank "The Cheeseman" Cucchiara - New England Patriarca Family Consigliere (Boston, Massachusetts, representative of Raymond Patriarca Sr., Charlie "Lucky" Luciano and Frank "The Prime Minister" Costello at Summit) Frank Zito - Springfield, Illinois Zito Family Boss (Chicago Outfit Caporegime) Louis Santo Trafficante Jr. - Tampa Trafficante Family Boss (moved to Havana in 1946, Cuban operations overseer for the families, including casino and narcotics operations. Most powerful boss in Cuba) Joseph "Joe" Civello - Dallas Civello Family Boss (New Orleans Family caporegime, representative of New Orleans Boss Carlos "Little Man" Marcello. Dallas, Texas) John Francis Colletti - Dallas Civello Family member (Dallas, Texas) James "Black Jim" Colletti - Colorado Colletti Family Boss (Pueblo, Colorado) Frank DeSimone - Los Angeles Dragna Family Boss (Los Angeles, California, also lawyer and house council for Family members) Simone Scozzari Los Angeles Dragna Family Underboss (San Gabriel, California, came under law enforcement scrutiny after Apalachin. Deported to Italy in 1963) Mafiosi suspected of attending Apalachin Summit 14 November 1957 Carmine "Lilo" Galante - Bonanno Family Underboss Carmine Galante was one of the most important attendees at the Palermo, Sicily, Hotel des Palmes Summit the past October 14-October 17 and would be important to the Apalachin Summit being that he was the U.S. La Cosa Nostra's Montreal "representation" for all narcotics operations being directed through the port city. Identified as a guest staying at the estate by Joe Barbara's housekeeper. Galante had also been stopped and arrested by Pennsylvania police on October 17, 1956, allegedly coming from a meeting at Barbara's estate. Frank "Frank Carrol" Garofalo - Former Bonanno Family Underboss Frank Garofalo was semi-retired in Sicily as of 1956 and came back specifically for the Apalachin Summit, having been one of the attendees at the Palermo, Sicily-Hotel des Palmes Summit the past October 14-October 17 and would most certainly brief the Bosses on the outcome of the Palermo Summit. Garofalo was registered at a local motel. Gaspar "Gasparino" DiGregorio - Bonanno Family Caporegime Brother-in-law of Buffalo Family Boss Stefano Magaddino, registered at local motel. Joseph "Joe Bandy" Biondo - Gambino Family Underboss Former Albert Anastasia Consigliere, conspired to kill Anastasia with Carlo Gambino and Joseph Riccobono. Expected to explain the reasons for the Anastasia hit and the current situation between the new Anastasia/Gambino Family hierarchy and the faction still loyal to Anastasia. Gaetano "Tommy Brown" Lucchese and Stefano "Steve" LaSalle- Lucchese Family Boss and Underboss 1st and 2nd in command, Lucchese and his allies supported Carlo Gambino and his assassination of Albert Anastasia and ascension to Boss of the Family. Aniello "Niel" Migliore - Lucchese's top aide and was in a car accident driving through Binghamton the next day, November 15. He was most likely on his way to pick up Lucchese and LaSalle. Stefano "The Undertaker" Magaddino - Buffalo Magaddino Family Boss Commission member who helped Vito Genovese arrange the Summit at Barbara's house, his clothes contained his name in them when they were found in a car in Joseph Barbara's barn. Salvatore "Momo" Giancana and Frank "Strongy" Ferraro - Chicago Outfit Boss and Underboss 1st and 2nd in command, Sam Giancana was a Commission member and had just recently been promoted to Boss of the Outfit by former Boss and new Consigliere, Anthony "Joe Batters" Accardo. Giancana would take this opportunity to meet with all the other Family Bosses and introduce his new Underboss, Ferraro. Giancana was overheard just days after the Summit on an FBI wire talking to Stefano "The Undertaker" Magaddino about "our guys being caught" and "that it wouldn't have happened in Chicago, we have a whole county locked up tight". Magaddino cowardly replied "you bet it wouldn't have Sam". Joseph "Joe Z." Zerilli and Anthony "Tony Jack" Giacalone - Detroit Partnership Boss and Lt./Capo. Joe Zerilli was not yet at the Barbara estate, he was late. he most likely noticed the roadblock on the way to the meeting or was still at the motel and heard what happened on the radio. He used his driver�s license to rent a car in the Binghamton area and used it to get home on November 14, 1957. Nicholas "Nick" Civella and Joseph Filardo - Kansas City Civella Family Boss and Capo They were identified by a local business owner as the two men who used his phone to call a taxi. James "Jimmy the Hat" Lanza- San Francisco Abati/Lanza Underboss 2nd in command to Boss Michael Abati who at the time was fighting a deportation order, Lanza was registered at a local motel with San Jose Family Underboss, Joseph Cerrito. Mike Abati was deported on July 8, 1961. Lanza becomes his successor and the Family's most famous Boss. John Sebastian "John LaRock" LaRocca - Pittsburgh LaRocca Family Boss Registered at the local Arlington Motel with his 2 Capos, Michael Genovese and Gabriel "Kelly" Mannarino, their bills charged to Barbara's Canada Dry Bottling Company. Joseph "Joe" Cerrito- San Jose Cerrito Family Underboss 2nd in command to Boss Onofrio Sciortino who was ill, Cerrito was registered at a local motel with San Francisco Boss, James Lanza. Joe Cerrito becomes Boss of the Family after Sciortino's death in 1959. Frank "Frankie Bal" Balistrieri - Milwaukee Balistrieri Underboss 2nd in command, registered at a local motel. Family Boss, John Aloito was grooming his son in law Frank Balistrieri as his successor, Balistrieri uses the Apalachin Summit to introduce himself to all the Bosses from across the United States. In 1961 Aloito retires so Balistrieri can assume the top position. Frank "Frankie Bal" Balistrieri becomes Milwaukee's most famous underworld Boss. Joseph Zammuto - Rockford, Illinois Musso/Zammuto Family Underboss 2nd in command to Boss Antonio Musso who was ill, Zammuto was registered at a local motel. Tony Musso dies 1958 and Joe Zammuto becomes Boss of the Family. It is now called the Zammuto Family. The Rockford Family has always been a Chicago Outfit faction. Charles "Curly" Montana - Cleveland Scalish Family Caporegime Curly Montana is registered at a local motel with Boss John Scalish. Joseph "Joe" Campisi - Dallas Civello Family Underboss 2nd in command, Joe Campisi is registered at a local motel with Boss Joe Civello, who was detained at Barbara's estate. Joe Campisi became the Family Boss after Joe Civello retires to Florida in 1968. Civello dies in 1970. Vincenzo "Vince" Colletti - Denver Colletti Family Underboss 2nd in command, Vincenzo is James "Black Jim" Colletti's brother. Vincenzo is registered with James at a local motel, he escapes the police at Barbara's estate, but his brother James is picked up walking down a road near the estate. Alfred "Al" Angelicola - New Jersey area La Cosa Nostra member Al Angelicola is registered at a local motel with other known mafiosi, his Family affiliation is unknown. Luigi "Louis" Greco and Giuseppe "Pep" Cotroni - Montreal Cotroni Family Underboss and Caporegime Louis Greco was a Montreal Sicilian who was 2nd in command to Calabrian Boss Vic "The Egg" Cotroni. In 1953 Greco and his top aide Frank Petrula go to Sicily to arrange heroin shipments with Charlie "Lucky" Luciano. Giuseppe "Pep" Cotroni was the brother of Boss Vic Cotroni and the Lt. in charge of narcotics operations for the Family. The Montreal Family was considered the Bonanno Family Canadian Faction. Joe Bonanno had just returned from the U.S.-Sicilian La Cosa Nostra Summit in Palermo, Sicily at the Hotel des Palmes on October 14-October 17, 1957. One of the topics to be discussed at Apalachin was about the Sicilians taking control of the importation of narcotics while the U.S. La Cosa Nostra would handle wholesale distribution . Montreal is the North American transit way for narcotics shipments into the U.S., that's why Montreal had representatives at the Apalachin Summit. Giuseppe "Don Giuseppe" Settacase - Agrigento, Sicily Capo-familglia and future Capo-provincia (provincial Boss) in Sicilian Cupola (Commission). Don Giuseppe Settacase was sent over as a representative of the Sicilian La Cosa Nostra Clans wishing to export narcotics to the United States. He was present at the Palermo, Sicily Summit on 14 October-17, 1957 and was highly respected as a mediator. Don Giuseppe Settacase mentor to the most powerful and wealthy Sicilian Clans in the Agrigento province and Sicilian La Cosa Nostra, the Siculiana-Caruana-[BadWord] Family and the Cattolica Eraclea-Rizzuto Family, who would become superpowers in the global narcotics and money laundering trade and rule mafia empires. After the Apalachin Summit, both the Canadian and Sicilian La Cosa Nostra were heard talking on R.C.M.P. and FBI wiretaps about how embarrassed the American La Cosa Nostra looked to their peers for the screw up at Apalachin http://www.greaterowego.com/apalachin/guests.html
  5. Full screen. For those visiting next month. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=have+you+ever+seen+dallas+from+a+dc9+at+night&view=detail&mid=B353DC4B74B0E7301A83B353DC4B74B0E7301A83&FORM=VIRE
  6. I just don't think the family tree bit you keep chasing is conclusive of anything other than it's a small world. When you state something as false that I know is true it calls everything else into question. My last name is Ness. My grandfather was the CO at Nebraska Street in DC with the AFSA. He was in the ONI and served several years with Lou Tordella the longest active DD in NSA history who is in the Cryptology Hall of Fame. I grew up with Rockefellers and others who you would instantly know by name. None of this infers anything other than if you're around long enough you meet people. Hell I've met 12 Oscar winners. It seems your a man who has concluded something and are searching for the pieces to justify the conclusion. I appreciate the research but it doesn't convince me of anything.
  7. Thanks Jim. I was kind of startled by the response to the thread myself. I watch how threads are reacted to, who's posting when I visit. The number of posts and views in the time it's been here surprised me for the forum. Michael Cross comment on page 5, 7/23 was encouraging "You guys have the WC crew out in force. Must be on the right track". Jim H's diagram of the TT is essential to understanding. I really knew nothing of Brewer myself previously, just a curious shoe salesman, but hanks to Paul... As to the current question... I still wonder myself, if Julia Postal was out front of the entrance in the ticket booth doing her job when Oswald supposedly passed, how did she know to report to incoming officers the suspect went upstairs to the balcony? Why wasn't she questioned about such details?
  8. Really great news. We all no doubt remember mainstream media going after Stone’s JFK months before its release. That clearly backfired.
  9. Thank You Jim for your work over the years, years before I was even aware of it. Destiny Betrayed carried to the screen and expanded on is outstanding news with Stone behind it.
  10. Thanks Mike. I also know what they are going to say, but with the roster of people this show has, forget it. As Oliver said in the story for Variety, it's no exaggeration to say that it's the most distinguished collection of talent and knowledge ever assembled on the JFK case. Hands down. And its all geared around what the ARRB declassified, and what the public does not know about. Goodbye Mr. Shenon.
  11. Oops. Been gone a day. Should have read Jim's thread first. But thanks for alerting me to pertinent information, as usual, Bart.
  12. I think we already know how the mainstream U.S. media is going to respond to it.
  13. Bravo !! It will be interesting to see how the mainstream U.S. media responds to this.
  14. Prior Analysis of Bismuth Magnesium Material Held by TTSA Revealed an Anomaly https://www.unknowncountry.com/headline-news/prior-analysis-of-bismuth-magnesium-material-held-by-ttsa-revealed-an-anomaly/
  15. Yesterday
  16. Fifty Reasons was really good. It was the sort of thing a lot of people talk about doing, but never actually do, make an accessible and well-researched and up-to-date introduction to most of the main elements of the case. I wish I'd been able to talk more people into watching it, as I mentioned it to a few total newcomers every so often. But a new solid series from Stone, Richardson and all the folks he's gathered is big news and means that we'll see a lot more shrill counter-propaganda over the coming year or two. But the cool thing is, all people will have to do is watch the series, and a dumb counter-article from Shenon or Gerald Posner or whichever dumb CIA guy gets invited onto the Joe Rogan to debunk things for Youtube viewers will have their work cut out for them countering it.
  17. You do have the limo position fairly accurate for extant z437(very important). Bell starts filming slightly before that. Something like this:
  18. And the fact that Joshua Brown had been previously shot in another bad drug deal really leans the suspicion angle towards his death being a bad drug deal killing versus something more retaliatory regards his Amber Guyger court case testimony.. You may be right. Though I knew a president who got killed, and people said it was retaliation over some Caribbean misadventure of his. Others said that that plot got co-opted by his internal enemies.
  19. I calculated the position of Bell by triangulating the fixed positions of the bridge, lampposts, signs, and pergola. Do you think he was perched in a different gap in the peristyle? Its possible I wasn't using a complete version of the film, which may mean the start point was earlier. Is there a complete version of the film somewhere online?
  20. I agree, I think that the black car turning off is definitely the advanced car: a single occupant; a white car following behind; and bikes about 20 seconds behind the white car all fits exactly with the known motorcade vehicle pattern. Indeed, I've not seen these two cars anywhere else, either in films or photos. The versions of the Paschall film that I have seen do have some early footage of the Market Street area, but then it cuts to the advanced bikes just missing what the AMIPA film shows. The white car in the Muchmore film is tricky to identify due to timing issues. Specifically, the traffic is flowing around the white car, whereas we know that when the bikes turn the same corner just seconds after the pilot car the traffic has completely stopped and cleared. For example there is a bus parked behind the white car, but when the bikes are turning it has disappeared completely. Therefore I suspect the Muchmore white car was probably filmed a few minutes before the Pilot car appeared. Either way, we still have enough evidence with the AMIPA film and the Warren Commission testimony to be confident that the white pilot car drove through Dealey Plaza. Pilot car puzzle solved!
  21. I Karl, I agree. Very few big cities in America are as fairly represented regards blacks being heads of so many majorly important departments as Houston is. Any person in America doing business with drug dealers is at serious risk of being shot. And the fact that Joshua Brown had been previously shot in another bad drug deal really leans the suspicion angle towards his death being a bad drug deal killing versus something more retaliatory regards his Amber Guyger court case testimony... imo.
  22. A completely different Dallas everybody---Black mayor-- Black female Chief of Police--Black female sheriff--Black DA --Black female judge--etc. If we had been told in 1963 that this would occur..no one would have ever believed it. Joshua Brown's apartment had been [subsequently] searched and some 12 lbs of Weed was found. Also he had been previously shot for yet another drug deal gone bad.
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