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  2. Sandy, The thing that clinched it for me was the difference in Interrogation reports that Fritz had drawn up. Look at the difference between the: DPD Archives Box 1, Folder# 15, Item# 1, page 5 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box1.htm and DPD Archives Box 15, Item# 1, Item# 111, page 6 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box15.htm Fritz, or someone, had manually inserted the info about the bus transfer, and that accounted for the increase in page numbers from page 5 to page 6. For some reason, they had to get Oswald on that bus. To discredit Roger Craig's account of the Nash Rambler perhaps? Steve Thomas
  3. During my 1988 Bush research I was told about a possible assassination attempt against Poppy Bush shortly after the inauguration in January 1981. He was leaving a home in Georgetown (said to be a woman's home) when there was gunfire on the street -- so the story went. It was unknown whether he walked into some kind of random street shooting or if it was targeted at him. All I could find out about it was (1) the Washington Post mentioned it a couple of months later carefully buried in a feature on unconfirmed "rumors"; and (2) Kitty Kelley mentioned the incident in one of her books as the subject of merriment among Reagan officials who learned about it at a restaurant that night. Perhaps this event had something to do with the power struggle within the new Reagan administration between Reagan and Bush, which I learned was resolved after the attempted assassination of Reagan by Reagan ceding much of his executive power secretly to Bush. The Bush family connections with the assassination attempt against Reagan are well-known, if still somewhat mysterious; even Newsweek referred to them the week after the shooting of the president in a sidebar on oddities surrounding the event. These were some of the many loose ends I uncovered in my research during the 1988 presidential campaign. Many things I was told about Bush and the Bush Crime Family were verified later by me or others, but some things I was told I could not document sufficiently.
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  5. This quote from the doctor who botched the coverup so badly -- having the head-shot bullet both enter and exit the back of the head -- that the next coverup team had to move both wounds. Though in all fairness, Dr. Humes was given little time to deceive. BTW, is Dr. Humes defending his autopsy or the altered one performed by the HSCA?
  6. Sandy: you have a point. It is difficult for me to even discuss all options because we speak about a good man who by a twist of fate occurred in a precarious situation. Mr. Frazier always defended Lee as a kind man and excluded the possibility that Lee would kill the President. And yet, his testimonies served the Warren Commission in a decisive way to pin the guilt on Lee Oswald. There are a few logical options here: 1. Mr. Frazier was not aware at that time that there was someone to his right. This is possible because he was transfixed to the area of Tripple underpass and may have not spotted someone squeezing in front of him and taking Prayer Man's location. The minimum time for which Prayer Man was at his spot would be about 30-35 seconds. He may have stayed longer but we cannot know because there is no visual evidence. If this option is true, Prayer Man could have been Lee Oswald and Mr. Frazier's recent refutation of this possibility has no relevance. Actually, when Mr. Frazier was shown Darnell a few years ago he said that he had not been aware that there was anyone to his right. (However, the film evidence clearly show there was a man there). 2. Mr. Frazier saw Lee Oswald but suppressed the memory of seeing this man. In this scenario, Mr. Frazier knew that there was someone next to him and maybe even that it was Lee Oswald but forgot this bit. This happens in people undergoing severe life incidents, are subject to violence, injured or witnessed some kind of horror. Today, these memory lapses are known to be a part of post-traumatic stress disorder. This situation could have been exacerbated if he had perceived threats to not only himself but also his family. According to this scenario, Mr. Frazier underwent through a horror situation in which he was forced to pin the guilt of President's killing on innocent man, a friend, and he could only handle it by suppressing the memory of the event. Statements such as not being aware someone stood to his right or evasions such as the image is too blurred suggest that this subconscious memory suppression could be in place. 3. Mr. Frazier knew all too well that Lee Oswald popped up in the doorway during a period excluding him as the assassin. Therefore, he was always at ease saying that Lee was kind and that he could not believe Lee had committed the crime, however, there clearly was a script he needed to play. He was lucky that no one has raised the issue of Prayer Man for 50 years and therefore, he was not challenged about Prayer Man, and all was all right on the surface. So, he needed to deal primarily with the long bag which clearly could not contain the rifle (and which bag did not exist) and with the small lunch bag which Lee claimed to have on his lap during their ride to work on Friday morning. If I have any feeling of despair about Mr. Frazier's statements, it is actually the small bag part. Lee Oswald claimed he took a small paper bag with a sandwich and an apple for lunch, however, this possibility was clearly denied by Mr. Frazier. If Lee had a bag with lunch in it, his first-floor lunch and his short walk to the second floor to buy a Coke would make a very good sense and would stifle Lee' alibi. Take the lunch sack away from Lee and what remains is a lone wolf on the sixth floor redying for shooting. If this scenario is valid, Mr. Frazier's statements could not be used to exclude Lee as Prayer Man. 4. Lee Oswald was not Prayer Man and Mr. Frazier correctly denies Lee was there as Prayer Man. But how can he positively know Lee was not in the doorway if he was not aware of the presence of anyone to his right and if the picture is too blurred to say who Prayer Man was? If it is only due to a consensus among the employees that Lee was not on steps, that sounds like an organised group whitewash. There was no real interview with any of the doorway occupants about the minutes spent there and about what happened during and after the shooting. Mr. Billy Lovelady, admitted in his HSCA testimony that someone could be behind him without him knowing it, and this is the closest admission that actually, someone could have popped up in the doorway and that person was behind him. I sincerely do not know which of the scenarios is true and would like to talk to Mr. Frazier and ask him not only about Prayer Man but also about the small and large bag. I view these three elements as inter-connected.
  7. Steve, Love your experiment. It seems to discredit the official narrative, unless the bus was stuck in exceedingly bad traffic. I checked with Google Maps and found that the distance from the TSBD to Elm and Griffin to be close to 0.3 miles. At a fast pace Oswald could have easily made that in 5 minutes. So the soonest he could have arrived was at 12:49 + 0:05 = 12:54. This means that it must have taken McWatters at least 12:54 - 12:36 = 18 minutes to go those last four blocks. But there may be a caveat. Some time ago I made a timeline of the Tippit shooting, and ultimately had no choice but conclude that the timestamps on the dictabelts had been altered. Seven minutes had been added to each timestamp. Soon thereafter I learned that Jim Hargrove and John Armstrong had done the same and come up with pretty much the same conclusion. I remember wondering at the time at what point the altered timestamps began and when they ended. And how the transitions between correct-time and altered-time were handled. Could it be that all the timestamps for the whole affair been changed? (That would have been a big job!) Just for fun let's suppose that the times are altered even as early as when Lumpkin arrived. Subtracting that 7 minutes from his arrival time would give a corrected arrival time of 12:49 - 0:07 = 12:42. Oswald could have arrived at Elm and Griffin as early as 12:42 + 0:05 = 12:47. And so McWatters bus must have taken at least 12:47 - 12:36 = 11 minutes to go those last four blocks. An 11 minute delay is a lot easier to believe. But I'll be the first to admit that it's hard to believe that the FBI altered the timestamps so many minutes before they had to to give Oswald time to (supposedly) travel there and kill Tippit.
  8. Found some CIA-Cuba crypto nam
  9. Sandy, Just as an intellectual exercise, I once tried to determine who was the first officer in a position of authority that ordered that the TSBD be sealed, and when that took place. (Although this question does have some implications). Will Fritz, Captain of the Homicide Bureau, J. Herbert Sawyer, Police Inspector, and Charles Lumpkin, Deputy Chief of Police all claimed that they were the ones who ordered the building sealed. The earliest I can tell; based on the Dispatch Tapes, it was Lumpkin. And based on those tapes, that didn't happen until at least 12:49. If Oswald was stopped at the front door by a policeman who asked him for his name, address and telephone number, and that policeman was Erich Kaminsky, could Oswald have made the seven blocks to the bus at Elm and Griffin where he was picked up by Cecil McWatters. If McWatters left St. Paul and Elm at 12:36, did it take him at least 13 minutes to drive the four blocks to Elm and Griffin? If Oswald didn't leave the TSBD until after 12:49, how long would it have taken him to walk the seven blocks to Elm and Griffin? After the assassination, George Lumpkin returned to the TSBD and took command there. DPD Archives Box 14, Folder# 4, Item# 10 page 22. http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box14.htm According to the Dispatch Tapes, George Lumpkin had arrived at the TSBD by 12:49 PM http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/ 15 (Captain C.E. Talbert): “15 is at the scene. We... the building's the Old Purse Company on the east side of Houston. Somebody cut off the back side, will you? Make sure nobody leaves there.” Dispatcher: “10-4, 15” 15: “15's in charge down here. Correction 5's (Deputy Chief Lumpkin) in charge.” WC testimony of Will Fritz http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/fritz1.htm Mr. BALL. Did you go directly to a building? Mr. FRITZ. Directly to the Texas School Book Depository Building. Mr. BALL. What time did you arrive there? Mr. FRITZ. Well, sir; we arrived there---we arrived at the hospital at 12:45, if you want that time, and at the scene of the offense at 12:58. Mr. BALL. 12:58; the Texas School Book Depository Building. Mr. FRITZ. Yes. Mr. FRITZ. The man who did the shooting was in the building. So, we, of course, took our shotguns and immediately entered the building and searched the building to see if we could find him. Mr. BALL. Were there guards on the doors of the building at that time? Mr. FRITZ. I am not sure, but I don't--there has been some question about that, but the reason I don't think that--this may differ with someone else, but I am going to tell you what I know. Mr. BALL. All right. Mr. McCLOY. By all means. Mr. FRITZ. After I arrived one of the officers asked me if I would like to have the building sealed and I told him I would. WC testimony of J. Herbert Sawyer http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sawyer_j.htm Mr. SAWYER. Well, I didn't see anything that was out of the ordinary, so I immediately came back downstairs to check the security on the building. Mr. BELIN. When you say check the security on the building, what do you mean by that? Mr. SAWYER. Well, to be sure it was covered off properly, and then posted two men on the front entrance with instructions not to let anyone in or out. Mr. BELIN. What about the rear entrance? Mr. SAWYER. We'll, I also had the sergeant go around and check to be sure that all of those were covered, although he told me that they were already covered. Mr. BELIN. When was the order given to cover the front entrance of the building? Mr. SAWYER. Well, they had it covered when I got there. There were officers all around the front. The only thing I don't think had been done by the time I got there, was the instructions not to let anybody in or out. Mr. BELIN. All right, now, did you give the instructions not to let anyone in or out? Mr. SAWYER. I did. Mr. BELIN. Did you give those instructions before or after you came down from the fourth floor or top floor? Mr. SAWYER. After I got down. WC testimony of Cecil McWatters, Bus driver http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/mcwatters.htm Mr. BALL - What time are you due, according to your schedule, to leave the corner of St. Paul and Elm? Mr. McWATTERS - 12:36. Mr. BALL - Well then, back to *the question, what time did you leave that day, leave Elm and St. Paul? Mr. McWATTERS - Well, I would have to say I left there around, in other words, 12:36 because I know I was on good time when I come in there. Mr. BALL - You were beyond Field and before you got to Griffin? Mr. McWATTERS - That is right. It was along about even with Griffin Street before I was stopped in the traffic. Mr. McWATTERS - I picked up within a period of from the time I picked up two or three passengers, I can't recall just exactly which stop. I have after I leave St. Paul Street, I have Ervay Street and Akard Street, and Field Street which would be three stops where I can't recall that, exactly where I discharged or picked up passengers, because I had the few passengers that I had which I came into town with. Mr. BALL - Well then, do you remember picking up a passenger at a place other than at a bus stop as you went down Elm? Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir. As I left Field Street, I pulled out into the, in other words, the first lane of traffic and traffic was beginning to back up then; in other words, it was blocked further down the street, and after I pulled out in it for a short distance there I come to a complete stop, and when I did, someone come up and beat on the door of the bus, and that is about even with Griffin Street. Mr. BALL - And that is about seven or eight blocks from the Texas Book Depository Building, isn't it? Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir. It would be seven, I would say that is seven, it would be about seven blocks. Steve Thomas
  10. I do not understand your question--and specifically, what you mean when you write ""whether a full chest tube procedure was performed". Could you please clarify? Thanks. DSL
  11. Suppose for a moment that Prayer Man is Oswald and that Frazier knows he is Oswald. Does anybody honestly believe that Frazier would admit so?? After keeping Oswald's innocence a secret for fifty years? What a ridiculous notion. Maybe on his deathbed, but I doubt it.
  12. I failed to make something very important clear in my presentation. The affidavits of the four women I showed standing together all say that they were standing together at the presidential parade. Had that not been the case, we could not have made the Gloria Calvery identification with any confidence. Thanks to Jim Hargrove for bringing that to my attention. Karen Westbrook is the one on the left, Gloria Calvery is the one on the right, and the two between them are Karan Hicks and Carol Reed.
  13. Thanks Jim. Much appreciated. Yes. Each of them said in their first day affidavits that they were standing with the other three. That's a very important point. Without that testimony I wouldn't have made the conclusions that I did. Thanks for asking. I'll go back and see if I can make that more clear. Here is what I believe, Jim. I believe that the WC/FBI used the various films to help them create the official narrative. Even the fake parts of their narrative. They saw Baker seemingly rushing to get inside the TSBD, and they used that for their narrative. (I've shown that Baker was NOT headed toward the TSBD entrance. Though, yes, he did get there later.) I believe that they saw the two guys walking toward the west end of the TSBD and they incorrectly identified them as Shelley and Lovelady, based on their looks and what they seemed to be wearing in other photos and films. When the WC/FBI needed to discredit Vickie Adams, they fabricated the narrative of Shelley and Lovelady entering the west TSBD entrance based upon the two guys they saw in Couch headed in that direction. Little did they know that when Couch and Darnell are synchronized, it shows those too guys headed toward the west end far too early, before they even had a chance to talk to Gloria Calvery!
  14. Jim, As you said, Shelley said in his first-day affidavit that he crossed the road and bumped into Gloria Calvery there. Lovelady never mentioned Calvery till he gave his WC testimony. It was for the WC that Shelley's and Lovelady's stories became identical. They both said that Gloria Calvery arrived at the steps 3 minutes after the shooting, and that is when they left the steps together. In addition Lovelady said that he spoke with Calvery there at the steps. Shelley didn't say that. (Only those last two sentences are consistent with Darnell.) Shelley's first-day-affidavit has him crossing the road and bumping into Calvery there. Whereas his WC testimony has him crossing the road AFTER Calvery arrived at the steps.
  15. Paul, One thing I should have pointed out earlier is that the conclusion of this analysis is consistent with first-day affidavits (FDA) of those on the top step. I believe that FDAs are much more likely to be trustworthy than later testimony. Though admittedly they can be brief and leave out details that come out later. Lovelady didn't say he left the steps in his FDA. And Darnell sure makes it look that way. However, I think it's possible that he left the steps and ran toward the limo as it dropped out of view. I've seen Frazier say that Shelley, Lovelady, and others did that. But if so, Lovelady obviously returned when he saw the limo was gone. Because we see him right there on the steps in Darnell, though no longer on the top landing. I personally believe that Lovelady did leave the steps and then returned. I believe that Shelley did the same. In his FDA he said he crossed over to the concrete island, bumped into Gloria Calvery there, and then returned. He then went inside and called his wife. This is consistent with Darnell and also with what Frazier said. In summary, I believe that both Shelley and Lovelady ran toward the limo as it dropped out of view. Shelley bumped into a running Gloria Calvery at the concrete island and they ran back to the steps as she told him what had happened. Shelley then went off by himself and Calvery told Lovelady what happened. We see her doing that in Darnell. By the time of their WC testimonies, both Lovelady and Shelley were saying that they stayed on the TSBD steps till Gloria arrived... a direct contradiction to Shelley's FDA. And that it took her three minutes to get there. I don't believe it. I believe their FDAs and Darnell. Your question is an excellent one... where is Shelley in Darnell? For a long time I've thought he was inside headed for a phone to call his wife. But according the Andrej Stancak, Shelley can be seen in Darnell. (In fact, Andrej believes that Shelley hadn't even left the steps yet when photographed by Darnell, something I adamantly disagree with.) Andrej says that Bill Shelley is the guy in Altgens 6 whose profile we see just to the right (our right) of Lovelady. He's wearing a dark suit and tie. And in Darnell Shelley is the guy at the very top-right in this image: The guy does seem to be about the right height for Shelley. But I have to wonder how his dark suit coat as seen in Altgens 6 looks so light in Darnell. Also, Shelley was slender whereas this guy looks a little pudgy in Altgens 6. Regardless, if Andrej is right about this guy being Shelley, it is my opinion that after bumping into Gloria Calvery at the concrete island, he returned and resumed his former position on the steps before going inside and calling his wife.
  16. If there was no government investigation why is this tagged as Government Exhibit 7? Wouldn't the Secret Service be required to present a report on an assassination attempt on the president?
  17. Altgens 5, 6, and 7 are all fakes. The position of the Stemmons sign rules out Altgens 6 and Zapruder 255 being the same. I'll leave that at that. Have you noticed in this gif that Lovelady is shorter than PM and than is taller than PM. Taller in Weigman and shorter in Couch. What's it all about, Alfie? Well, it could mean that 30 or more seconds have gone by and Lovelady has changed step positions. Or, it could just be bad photo editing. The first frame of the gif shows a blurred Lovelady and the second shows a sharper, clearer Lovelady. How do we do that? Why aren't all frames shown at the same speed? BTW, people in the early part of this thread thought that Weigman and Couch happened directly after Altgens 6. At least that part of the lore of Dealey Plaza has been improved. I don't get this: "This may be possible but I will not spend hours doing it because your mentally deranged master does not understand anything and uses you to challenge me. He did so several times in the past and it never ended well for his messengers. I am sure that you are bright enough to understand the problem, however, I would be grateful if you could also convey this information to that mentally disturbed individuum on the other forum. First of all, I don’t have an effin MASTER and nobody uses me for anything. So cut with the cr—p. I do my own research. Do I converse with him on another forum and agree with him sometimes, yes." Where did Andrej say this in this thread? I read through twice and haven't seen that. Has something been erased? Why else is Davidson going through this rant? Whose his "effin MASTER"? Just curious? The gift shows PM drinking a coke as most people think. Or, is he doing something else with a shiny object? How would a dark green 6 1/2 ounce coke bottle with a dark liquid in it put out that much illumination in the dark shadows of the doorway.
  18. Apologies to Joe for off topic. This is the gun Hinckley used to shoot "at' Reagan. What a stupid choice. Perfect for behind RFK's right ear for a couple of shots. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=83847F761EEB6538EF1253BDCEC2A42C2EE2EED7&thid=OIP.RhdqTGNoU1vkM2wgrO7seQHaGH&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fdamnuglyphotography.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F10%2Fronald_reagan_gun.jpg&exph=1545&expw=1872&q=hinckley+reagan+gun&selectedindex=2&qpvt=hinckley+reagan+gun&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,2,6 With a 2" barrel it's not accurate much over two feet away. I don't know how far away Hinckley was from Reagan. Hard to tell from pictures I've looked at this evening of him being tackled, I'd guess 6-8 feet, maybe 10 or more. When I saw the picture of it earlier today I thought it looked Very familiar. I inherited an Exact version of this gun. From my mom, she bought it, somewhere, after their house was robbed and guns and jewelry were stolen. An RG 14, stamped 22 LR on both side of the barrel, RG Ind then Miami on one side. But no serial number anywhere on it.. Convenient. Chosen for that reason? Mother shot a rattlesnake on the back porch once, from 6-8 feet away, using all 6 shots to do so. I honestly never knew it would hold 22 LR's, thought it would only hold shorts. This means it will hold 22 LR hollow points, better for (close) security. But no better from 6-8 feet away or more. Unless your expert or lucky.
  19. It seems if this article is true, at least Kodak knew that film is destroyed by xrays and radiation. https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/kodak-had-weapons-grade-uranium-in-their-basement-6a6c15d5677f?source=email-b388f9c27a62-1558438049575-digest.reader------2-58------------------d9cdd377_8f38_45dd_9efd_05d021f080ff-1&sectionName=top
  20. Jim I think a case can be made that a wild-eyed ringleader bent on killing a president might do the things you've listed. I'm reminded of pictures like this: I believe that the plotters' ultimate patsies were Russia and Cuba. Oswald's story was merely a pathway to them. I don't believe the plotters necessarily planned for a lone gunman scenario, though that would have sufficed. In fact, I believe that there were at least two rifles left at the TSBD for the authorities to find, a Mauser and a Carcano. Which would indicate a conspiracy. It was the Johnson Administration that made it a lone gunman scenario. They were the ones who made the Mauser disappear and the magic bullet appear.
  21. Thanks Steve and Paul. It sure seem like the stopping of Oswald occurred after the building was secured, and thus by Erich Kaminsky. My notes show two sources indicating that that was when Oswald was stopped, Harry Holmes and James Jarmin Here is some Holmes WC testimony: [Oswald] said, "I went down, and as I started to go out and see what it was all about, a police officer stopped me just before I got to the front door, and started to ask me some questions, and my superintendent of the place stepped up and told the officers that I am one of the employees of the building, so he told me to step aside for a little bit and we will get to you later. Then I just went on out in the crowd to see what it was all about." (It is my opinion is that Holmes is conflating the TWO times Oswald went out... the first being when he checked on the commotion as the motorcade went by, and the second being when Oswald left for the day.) In an unpublished HSCA interview, James Jarman recounted what Billy Lovelady had told him about Oswald's leaving the TSBD: Oswald was coming out the door and [Lovelady] said the police had stopped Oswald and sent him back in the building, billy love lady said that Mr. Trudy told the policemen that Oswald was alright, that he worked there, so Oswald walked on down the stairs. James Jarman could not have known about Oswald being stopped by a policeman,Truly vouching for him, and his subsequent departure -- ALL THINGS CORROBORATED BY HARRY HOLMES -- unless Lovelady really had known they took place. In essence, what we have here is Lovelady corroborating what Oswald told his interrogators. I therefore also believe that it was Lt. Erich Kaminsky who stopped Oswald at the front door.
  22. More things I don't remember reading before. "on 11/21/63 Dallas Sheriff Bill Decker had been told to use his men to augment security, the order was reversed the next day by a call from Washington." "In Dallas, SAC Winston Lawson , Formerly of the Army Intelligence Corps, took the lead in changing the motorcade route, and limiting then number of Dallas Police and motorcycle escorts to protect the president." "former FBI employee William S. Walter received warning of a possible presidential assassination attempt over the FBI teletype in the New Orleans office on November 17, 1963. he called five agents who handled investigatory units... (the actual telex) "URGENT: 1:45 AM EST 11-17-63... FROM: DIRECTOR - THREAT TO ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN DALLAS TEXAS NOVEMBER 22 DASH 23 1963... BUREAU HAS DETERMINED A MILITARY REVOLUTIONARY GROUP MAY ATTEMPT TO ASSASSINATE PRESIDENT KENNEDY ON HIS PROPOSED TRIP TO DALLAS TEXAS NOVEMBER 22-23." pgs. 136-137. Jesus. If true the FBI knew five days before what might happen? If the Director, Hoover, knew, his neighbor for years and frequent supper guest LBJ knew, maybe Nixon too?
  23. That appears to be a University of Florida umbrella. (Orange and blue.) I have one like it. (BTW I was in Miami that day.)
  24. The Nixon recommending Ford to Johnson for the Warren Commission bit is perplexing to me and of potential interest in the pursuit of justice and the truth. IF True, why would Nixon stick his nose into the proceedings at this point? Where this may have came from is perplexing. Jim Marrs wasn't known for making stuff up. He taught a course on the subject for about 10 years in addition to Crossfire and advising Stone on JFK. But where did he get This? Googling Nixon Johnson Ford Warren Commission found this. About 2/3 of the way down it repeats the assertion. Another interesting article otherwise, though obviously dated. http://www.johnfitzgeraldkennedy.net/thenixonbushconnectiontothekennedyassassination.htm I thought I'd heard of this guy before, maybe not. He posted 3X here years ago. If he's a former bodyguard of JFK was he in the Secret Service?
  25. Sandy, Assuming you are correct about the evidence presented in the thread linked above, and it sure looks like you are, this puts to rest a whole lot of nonsense about Shelley and Lovelady. Clearly, they both went back into the TSBD soon after the shots rang out. Now the question becomes, was the whole Excellent Adventure about accompanying police to the railroad tracks invented by WC attorneys to impeach Vickie Adams’ timing, or was it invented by Shelley and Lovelady to protect their own butts. A clear answer to this question would help our search for the truth keep moving right along!
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