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Kevin, there is no 'perhaps' regarding the seating arrangements in the V.P. car or the V.P. follow-up. The LBJ/Youngblood 'heroic leaping into the back seat story' is a total lie. The only person in that vehicle that I feel I could trust to speak the truth would be Ralph Yarborough. He stated that LBJ was hunched forward listening to Youngblood's radio. He also observed Gordon Arnold having hit the ground on the knoll & said he could smell gunpowder when the car was level with the knoll, adding, "he didn't think that possible if the shot came from the 6th floor of the TSBD." Sure, there was no love lost between LBJ, Connally and Yarborough and LBJ was hassling JFK that morning in the Hotel Texas to not travel with Yarborough. Was he trying to have Yarborough in the presidential limousine?

One article on Moorman and Hill is based on these notes. I also included a Fort Worth Press article. https://postimg.cc/gallery/Z9Xvfry

LBJ's aide Cliff Carter was the man who collected Connally's clothing from TR2 nurse Hinchcliffe. He told her that he was Carter's agent. We know what happened to those articles of evidence. It's also interesting that Arlen Specter kept Carter away from any testimony to the W.C.

Geez... De ja vu all over again. The nationwide hostility to these anti-war protesters is starting to remind me of the Vietnam years. Texas State Troopers in Riot Gear Crack Down on UT Students' Gaza Protest | Common Dreams Israel-Gaza student protests: Tom Cotton calling for the National Guard at Columbia University is dangerous hysteria. (slate.com)

Let me tell you about DREW PEARSON - he was one of the national reporters who had already written an expose of Lyndon Johnson that was to run in the Sunday papers of 11/24/1963. I am unsure if it was printed or not but I doubt so. Once LBJ became president DREW PEARSON was a complete 100% media shill for LBJ. LBJ used to tell Pearson I *might* make you Secretary of State one day as he massaged his ego. LBJ would often use Pearson's column as a leaking avenue to put out dirt on his enemies (Robert Kennedy, Don Reynolds, etc.).

One reason I wrote the post was to show you don't need to slog through all the dirt alleged about Johnson, as the cited article does, to reach an understanding of Johnson's role in the murder. Once the basic plan was set to murder Kennedy in a crossfire at DP and blame Oswald, it was obvious that much remained to be done to make the story work. It was equally obvious that Johnson's participation was essential for the reasons I cited. Who else but Johnson could have ordered the security detail now working for him as president to snatch the body back to AF1. In his book defending Johnson, Jack Valenti said taking the body back to DC was Johnson's first decision as the new president, "and a good one". It was Johnson who created the fake WC to frame Oswald and peopled it with figureheads who would go along with the farce. Once Oswald was killed that weekend an investigation was necessary and Johnson made sure it reached the conclusion predetermined by the plan. Johnson was not running or even involved in all facets of the plan. The alteration to the Zapruder film that weekend was purely a CIA job, e.g. Less discussed is the crucial assurance the others must have gotten from Johnson, in whatever form it took, that he would go along with most of their policy plans. As he did, standing by while the Left opposition was decimated by more murders and acquiescing to more foreign adventures. Murdering Kennedy was a critical first step in developing the policy known today as the rules based order in which the US makes the rules and enforces them with weapons of war..

Perhaps, but there remains no confirmation that LBJ was listening to a walkie talkie prior to the assassination.

The fact that they did not tell Mexico City doesn't necessarily mean that they hid the information. Did they tell the Paris office? Did they hide the information from the Paris office? Why would Mexico City need to know anything about Oswald being in the US?

Not sure I understand this. As far as I know, CIA hq did inform the Mexico City station that LHO had defected to the USSR and it had a maturing effect on him. How would the CIA know it had a maturing effect on him unless they knew he had returned from there.

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Thanks for this Pat, Looking forward to watching this

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Bump.

My distant memory tells me there were only 5 in the V.P.'s car, Jacks the Highway Patrol driver, Youngblood the S.S. agent in the front seat, Yarborough behind Jacks, Lady Bird centre back seat & LBJ behind Youngblood. Carter & Johns were in the car behind, seen in the Altgens photo with rear passenger door partly open. Varsity (Secret Service code name), a yellow 1963 Ford Mercury hardtop: Joe H. Rich of the Texas Highway Patrol (driver), Vice Presidential aide Cliff Carter (front middle), Secret Service agents Jerry Kivett (right front), Warren W. "Woody" Taylor (left rear), and Thomas L. "Len" Johns (right rear).

In his Chapter 5 at the MFF site, Bill Simpich states his guiding question: "Before JFK was killed, why did the Mexico City station hide all the evidence of the Oswald visit to the Cuban consulate from CIA Headquarters, while admitting the visits to the Soviet consulate? Or, to put it another way, why did Headquarters hide Oswald’s return to the United States and subsequent history as a pro-Castro activist from the Mexico City station? In other words, why was everything that might lead to a connection between Oswald and Cuba suppressed from the record before the assassination?" Is this really true? Did CIA MC hide this from headquarters? According to our transcripts, Oswald did not even mention his own name until his last call on October 1. This call came from a tap on the Soviet line, so how would CIA Mexico City know where Oswald was calling from or that he was the same man who had been referred to earlier at the Cuban consulate? Did headquarters really hide anything from MC? Why would they bother to notify Mexico City that Oswald had returned to the US or of his pro-Castro activities?

I think it leads to a man in plain clothing, it is confusing, would come from street dress(ing).

It looks like Hill eventually became LBJ's bodyguard.

Mortician Tom Robinson presents a huge problem to Pat Speer's distorted conception of the JFKA medical evidence so he resorts to doing a smear job on Robinson's testimony reminiscent of what he has done to Dr. Robert McClelland due to the huge problems McClelland presents to his project. It is thus appropriate to say that Speer has done a "McClelland job" on Tom Robinson. Recall Speer's highly deceptive presentation of Dr. McClelland's first day Admittance Note for President Kennedy in which Speer insults our intelligence with his claim that McClelland's Admittance Note is describing only one head wound (an entrance wound in the left temple McClelland described based upon Dr. Marion Jenkins's mistaken observation regarding same). The Note ALSO elsewhere describes a "massive gunshot wound of the head," consistent with all of McClelland's subsequent descriptions of the large avulsive wound in the back of JFK's head, but Pat Speer thinks we are all too stupid to read the Note for ourselves to unmask his deception. _________________ PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL ADMISSION NOTE DATE AND HOUR Nov. 22, 1963 4:45 P.M. DOCTOR: Robert N. McClelland Statement Regarding Assassination of President Kennedy At approximately 12:45 PM on the above date I was called from the second floor of Parkland Hospital and went immediately to the Emergency Operating Room. When I arrived President Kennedy was being attended by Drs Malcolm Perry, Charles Baxter, James Carrico, and Ronald Jones. The President was at the time comatose from a massive gunshot wound of the head with a fragment wound of the trachea. An endotracheal tube and assisted respiration was started immediately by Dr. Carrico on Duty in the EOR when the President arrived. Drs. Perry, Baxter, and I then performed a tracheotomy for respiratory distress and tracheal injury and Dr. Jones and Paul Peters inserted bilateral anterior chest tubes for pneumothoracis secondary to the tracheomediastinal injury. Simultaneously Dr. Jones had started 3 cut-downs giving blood and fluids immediately, In spite of this, at 12:55 he was pronounced dead by Dr. Kemp Clark the neurosurgeon and professor of neurosurgery who arrived immediately after I did. The cause of death was due to massive head and brain injury from a gunshot wound of the left temple. He was pronounced dead after external cardiac message failed and ECG activity was gone. Robert N. McClelland M.D. Asst. Prof. of Surgery Southwestern Med. School of Univ of Tex. Dallas, Texas _________________ Speer, in doing one of his infamous "McClelland jobs" on Tom Robinson takes the art of deception to a new level. Speer simply straight out writes bald faced lies. Pat Speer's wrote a series of lies about Tom Robinson, as follows: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30374-incision-made-on-jfks-head-kennedy-assassination-nothing-to-see-here-an-incision-made-on-jfks-head/?do=findComment&comment=534508 Pat Speer characterizes Tom Robinson's 1/12/1977 HSCA testimony as Robinson saying "I think I saw a small wound that was not a bullet hole by the temple": But as can be seen in the transcript of Tom Robinson's 1/12/1977 below, Tom Robinson testified that there was a little wound "at the temples in the hairline" on the "right" side that was "a quarter of an inch" in diameter (Speer deceptively claims this was instead a "large wound," consistent with his corrupt paradigm), and was according to Robinson caused "probably [by] a piece of bone or a piece of the bullet" (but NOTE that the ARRB questioning of Robinson in 1996 makes it clear that Robinson's opinions of the cause of the wound were ALL based upon what he overheard the pathologists saying [as they engaged in the cover-up of the frontal wounds] as Robinson was not any kind of expert in pathology or ballistics). Pat Speer next characterizes Tom Robinson's 6/21/1996 ARRB testimony as Robinson saying "I think I saw two or three tiny wounds by the right cheek": But when we consult the actual 1996 ARRB report, we see that just as Tom Robinson did in his 1977 HSCA testimony, in his 1996 ARRB testimony Tom Robinson ALSO specifically describes the right temple wound separately from the shrapnel punctures in the cheek (See next to red arrow below). Tom Robinson additionally executed two drawings of the right temple wound for the ARRB (one of which is the skull diagram below). Then Pat Spear attempts to smear Doug Horne by writing "Doug Horne, fourteen years after that: Robinson said he saw a bullet hole high on the forehead above the right eye." What Speer thinks we are all too stupid to read ourselves in the 1/12/1977 transcript of the testimony is that when Robinson was asked by HSCA attorney Andy Purdy whether the wound was "in the forehead region up near the hairline," Robinson replied in the affirmative, "yes." Furthermore, as can be seen in Robinson's marking of the right temple wound in the skull diagram above, Speer's claim that the wound was below the eye is also categorically false. Speer's fraudulent representations about McClelland, Robinson, Jenkins, and virtually every other person he includes in his twisted commentary are an insult to our collective intelligence, but to Speer, that apparently doesn't seem to matter, as he demonstrably believes we are all too stupid to fact check his deceptive claims...

Maybe a male "Karen?"

Apparently Pat thinks that it is Horne himself relaying the above lines.

Tom Robinson: I think I saw a small wound that was not a bullet hole by the temple. Tom Robinson, nineteen years later: I think I saw two or three tiny wounds by the right cheek. Doug Horne, fourteen years after that: Robinson said he saw a bullet hole high on the forehead above the right eye. Apparently some think this makes perfect sense.

This is one of the most back-assward things I've ever read. Not one prominent researcher, not even Mantik, finds Horne's theory convincing.You know, cause you asked him, that Mantik doesn't buy into Horne's ridiculous theory Humes cut the large fragment from the head. Now I actually wish Horne was more credible. But he's just not. 1. Compare Reed's testimony to what Horne claims Reed claims. If you do you will see that Reed saw Humes cut into the head to remove the brain AFTER Reed and Custer had taken the x-rays, but Horne needs it to be before, since these x-rays show missing frontal bone...so he simply claims it was before. 2. Compare Robinson's testimony and statements to what Horne claims he saw. Robinson told Horne he saw two three tiny holes on the cheek. Horne claims he actually saw a bullet hole high on the forehead. Robinson has also claimed he saw a blowout wound on the side of the head, but Horne, as I recall, just ignores this and claims any description of a large wound on the front or side of the head prior to Humes' cresting such a wound is a lie. 3. Compare James Jenkins' description of what he took to be an entrance wound by Kennedy's ear, along with Mantik's and Chesser's subsequent descriptions of this wound as one by the ear, and then watch Horne in JFK: What the Doctors Saw pronounce that Jenkins' was really describing a bullet hole high on the forehead. It's embarrassing... for all of us...thinking there was more to it than Oswald...to be associated... with this stuff...

What is a Kent?