Seven Days in May and General Walker

Each show would begin with a cold open, followed by narration by someone identifying himself as the Control Voice, which was played over visuals of an oscilloscope.

“There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits."

— Opening narration – The Control Voice – 1960s

Many episodes used one of two shortened versions of this introduction.

John Bevilaqua · June 27, 2009

Was it LeMay whom Kennedy wanted removed from any future meetings with MacNamara, JFK and his staff or someone else?

Here is an exchange between myself and Jim Root where I posed several questions about Walker and he replied in what he emphasized was necessarily a cursory manner.

To quote Jim:

"Feel free to post my replies but please add my name and the caveat that my research is complicated and in depth dealing with Edwin Walker and that these are nothing more than brief responses."

(I posed these questions and Jim replied.)

1) What do you make of Jack Ruby's attempt to implicate Edwin A. Walker and the Dallas Birch Society in the JFK hit during

Ruby's WC testimony?

Ruby was consistently afraid of Walker and his connections. Personal opinion leads me to believe that Ruby was working for another organization.......Check his lie detector information....if you examine it carefully there is a particular point where the needle jumped and no reason (such as movement) was noted at the time...This particular jump was questioned by the Warren Commission attorneys when they took the testimony from the technician that administered the test. The same "problem" was questioned by a future commission....In both cases the particular anomaly was explained away by the fact that Ruby may have moved causing the needle to jump but was not noted by the technician at the time.... The movement occurred before a question was asked so the explanation seems plausible but Ruby was informed that he was to be asked a question about a person when the jump occurred. It is the testimony of this person that Ruby was to be asked a question about that I find even more interesting in perhaps explaining Ruby's actions......
Two and three together:

Can you please answer the question that was posed?

2) What do you conclude from Walker's efforts at publishing the "Eagle Forum" as part of Willis A. Carto's racist and anti-Semitic

Noontide Press in California? Walker was a part owner as I recall. Have you ever read any of his racist and anti-Semitic diatribes

from The Eagle Forum yet?

3) Have you read Dr. Jerry Rose's Third Decade articles on Mary Ferrell's site about "Nut Country" and the meetings at the Jung

Hotel in New Orleans run by Edwin A. Walker a week before the assassination? What are your conclusions about these meetings?

It is my belief that Walker's actions after the Pro Blue fiasco was orchestrated to discredit Walker.....While this is difficult to explain in a short response I will suggest that Oswald's "defection" to the Soviet Union was an orchestrated event that Walker was directly involved in. When Oswald first sent a letter to the US Embassy suggesting that he wanted to return to the US, Walker's troubles begin. In parallel when the Soviets finally realize that Oswald is going to be allowed to return to the US, Soviet defector Noreseko makes contact with US Intelligence. I believe that, as Walker himself suggested, Oswald was working (knowingly or unknowingly) for both countries. It is also my belief that Walker was forced to accept his fate, without knowing the WHY and, as he did throughout his career, accepted his orders without question. US Law does not allow the military to spy on US citizens, by resigning from the military Walker was free to infiltrate the far right in America and may have been legally spying for US Intelligence agencies. I believe that if I am correct when Walker saw Oswald's picture on TV the day of the assassination he realized that he could be framed as a participant in the assassination, his action in the next 48 hours can be explained within this scenario.....as can the McCloy - Walker correspondence of June, 1963. Walker may have been the biggest Patsy!

Can you please address the question that was posed at some later time?

Walker was hardly a patsy. He was part of setting up the Oswald "legend". Walker was part of the group appearing before over

100 leaders of the conservative, radical right in the Jung Hotel in New Orleans where they discussed the "cover-up" and how to

handle the fall-out from the upcoming JFK hit, plain and simple. Why do you want to exonerate Walker from all of this anyway?

Was Walker "infiltrating the right" when he visited Byron DeLa Beckwith in jail on several different occasions or was he "giving

aid and comfort to the enemy?" You really should read "Portrait of a Racist" by Reed Massengil and "American Insurrection"

about Ole Miss. I doubt it would change your mind about Walker, because you appear so entrenched in your position, but at least you

would perhaps begin to realize what a violent and committed psycho Walker and his cohorts were. So Walker realized that he himself

could be "framed as a participant in the assassination?" Dude, he realized that a week before the assassination. How do you come up with these creative excuses for Walker anyway?

Your statement that "Walker infiltrated the far right" to spy on them is so incredulous that no one would possibly take that seriously.

Did you really expect anyone to believe you on that one?

4) Exactly whose "orders" do you think Walker was following when he led the "American Insurrection" at Ole Miss when his troops

opened fire on National Guardsmen? Have you read the book: "American Insurrection" and do you think Walker was an insurrectionist?

Did "his troops" open fire? No I have not read the book "American Insurrection." I do believe that Walker was a very slippery fellow!

Whose "orders" do you think he was following then? Please address the issues.

And, I might add, a very slimy, despicable and psychotic fellow as well. Do you think he was any of these?

5) What have you concluded about Walker and the sniper shot and "assn attempt" when he lived on Turtle Creek Drive?

I believe as Marina Oswald still believes to this day, Oswald attempted to kill Maj. Gen. Edwin Anderson Walker. Although Marina apparently does not now believe that her husband killed Kennedy when recently asked why are you so sure he shot at Walker....she replied because he told her he had! I also believe that Demitri D, brother of George D was instrumental in providing this information to those involved in the conspiracy to kill Kennedy. It is shortly after the Walker assassination attempt that Richard Helms is being informed by the FBI of Oswald's movements....right up until FBI Agent Hosty reports on exactly where Oswald was working......this information (Hosty's third note) remains as a "missing" piece of information.....and as V Bugliosi says the withholding of evidence can be used to prove guilt. As I have pointed out in some of my posts in the months preceding Oswald's defection Helms was meeting with former SI personal that included close associates Of John J. McCloy and the brother of George D. It was speculated by one from this group that Helms was going to be running an off radar intelligence operation through Helsinki in the upcoming months. Was this the Oswald "defection" into the Soviet Union? Good question but I uncovered this correspondence exactly where my research has led me.

Did you ever think that even Marina Oswald was part of the plot to implicate Oswald? Or did you ever think that however Mamantov

or Voshinin translated what she said would be 100% accurate? It was not recorded so they could have been like Robin Williams

when he did that comedy sketch about the translator for the gymnast Nadia Comaneci. When she made gestures about smoking pot

and drinking to excess, he just blandly and quietly translated it in a politically correct manner. Funny as hell, but very pithy, too.

Mamantov and Voshinin could have said anything and twisted the truth and poor Marina gets the blame for twisting the truth

and getting her facts wrong and no one seems to understand that at all.

6) Was RFK justified in sending Walker to the loony bin at the Springfield, MO federal penitentiary after Ole Miss?

Well Walker, until his death, believed that RFK was instrumental in releasing Oswald after the attempt on Walker's life. I believe that Oswald was involved in the downing of the U-2 aircraft on May 1, 1960 which led to the failure of the Paris Summit scheduled for May 15, 1960, a summit that John J. McCloy did not want a Limited Test Ban Treaty signed at. McCloy got exactly what he wanted! Oswald was very familiar and disturbed by these two incidents and spoke about them at Spring Hill College. I will suggest that Kennedy's success in the Democratic Primary was sealed after the downing of the U-2 and the election would have been won by Nixon if, in May of 1960, Nixon and Eisenhower would have been perceived by the American Public and the world as a whole as being the men Working toward cooperation with the Soviet Union and to a thawing of relations in the Cold War. It is my belief that Kennedy recognized that his election may have been helped by the actions of John J. McCloy and rewarded him by recognizing him in the first paragraph or his very first press conference. RFK may have been well aware of the roll of Walker in the insertion of Oswald into the Soviet Union and how that played into the downing of the U-2 and the Presidential election. If true it is reasonable that RFK would have worked to tarnish Walker's reputation rather that have the possibility of having revealed the true nature of a, perhaps, orchestrated U-2 event that had led to the election of his brother John. Oswald running around in the US may have presented an interesting problem to people such as Richard Helms and others........

Can you please answer the question that was posed?

7) Do you still consider Walker to be more of an "American Patriot" or an "American Insurrectionist?" Just curious.

Well he may have been one or the other as you suggest.....but hey, if he wasn't one then was he the other? Interesting question that has led me to research in great deal the whole life of Edwin Walker. And as I said he was a very slippery fellow.......!!!!!!!!

I forgot to add item number 8 which was:

8) Richard Condon even refers to either a Turtle Bay or Turtle Creek location in Texas in 1959 where a certain suspect in the 1958 plot to kill JFK lived at that time. Walker lived on Turtle Creek Drive, but was there ever a Turtle Bay section in Dallas? Do you think Condon was referring to Edwin Walker at that time and his residence on Turtle Creek Drive?

Perhaps item 8) is the most important of all questions about Walker...

I think that perhaps even I have given short shrift to the role of Edwin A. Walker over the years, having temporarily overlooked what

Jack Ruby and Richard Condon had to say about him decades ago. My guess is that many of you would reach the same conclusion.

Ironic is it not, that despite the number of MacArthur's minions thick as thieves in the JFK plot, little attention has been focused

on these characters over the years despite the recent onslaught of evidence spearheaded by the revelations in TMWKTM by Dick Russell.

Wonder if it would have been any different had this knowledge been revealed in the 1970's instead? I think so and told Dick as much.

When you put together the research done on Edwin A. Walker by Dr. Jerry Rose in "Nut Country" (Third Decade) and elsewhere you

must be inspired to include Walker high on your suspects list. After all, he joined Willoughby, MacArthur, Wm Potter Gale and others

like Wedemeyer, Stratemeyer, Fellers, etc. among the recently humiliated, debunked and deposed anti-USA insurrectionists and mutinous recalcitrants who seemed to favor Nazism over Democracy as their birthright. This characterization might just blow the doors off most

alternative conspiracy theories being proposed, but in fact history shall record this theory and this pattern as being quite factual. I just wonder why it took so long for this concept to get even a small foothold in JFK conspiracy documentation. Well, not really, when you had the Far Reich fighting the concept for so long. They did a hell of a job at it, too.

Thanks, Jim, for your responses. You taught me a lot about how it is possible for someone like Walker to avoid an indictment, either legal or public, for his very patently obvious series of roles in the JFK assassination. How do you think history will record these facts

and your interpretation of them? RFK's attorney probably realized after Ole Miss that Walker could get off using an "insanity defense"

and therefore declined to indict him or prosecute him for Ole Miss. Big mistake. Very big mistake. And he did not want to give

Walker a national stage for months in order to proselytize and pontificate either during his trial. Big mistake.

Did Walker work for the CIA at all in your opinion? Would they have anything to do with a person like him... anything at all?

Just curious what you think. Would ANY US Intel organization have anything to do with him at all or was he just another "lone nut?"

He certainly was a nut, I will give you that, and he was joined by dozens and dozens from "Nut Country", according to Dr. Jerry Rose.

What was it that convinced Walker he was about to be "framed" for conspiracy in the JFK hit anyway? Justifiable paranoia?

William Kelly · June 27, 2009

Peter,
I believe that was the opening for "the Outer Limits".

I WANT TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THE MODERATORS BECAUSE A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM - JOHN BEVILAQUA - UNDER THE FAKE NAME OF PATRICK HENRY, ATTACKED MY JFKCOUNTERCOUP BLOG, POSTING CHILDISH AND IDIOTIC COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE HIM TO BE THE ONE WHO DID THE SAME THING TO THE JFK GRAND JURY PETITION.

IF HE IS ALLOWED TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM, HE SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO RUN AMOK OVER OTHER MEMBER'S BLOGS AND SITES AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR, EVEN THOUGH HE TRIES TO HIDE BEHIND A FALSE NAME.

BILL KELLY

From Wikipedia:

Original series (1963–1965)

Each show would begin with a cold open, followed by narration by someone identifying himself as the Control Voice, which was played over visuals of an oscilloscope.

“There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits."

— Opening narration – The Control Voice – 1960s

Many episodes used one of two shortened versions of this introduction.

William Kelly · June 28, 2009

Documentary on Rod Serling (in Ten Parts)

Part One (1/10) - includes interview with John Frankenheimer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTqPfp36Xwg...feature=related

Part Two (2/10) - includes early TV plays

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSDHmLJwKnk...feature=related

Part Three (3/10) - Recognition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EscXXmFoVU...feature=related

Part Four (4/10) - Success - The Velvet Valley - the beginning of "The Twilight Zone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5q25Dtta8E...feature=related

Part Five (5/10) - Social Comment in "The Twilight Zone" & The Production Team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlv9unLMrkM...feature=related

Part Six (6/10) - The character types and themes in "The Twilight Zone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXVduN8ISU4...feature=related

Part Seven (7/10) - Rod Serling - The Star Writer & Personal Issues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yVYCVsQAo8...feature=related

Part Eight (8/10) - Rod Serling - as a Young Man - army experience - Working Hard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWlEhgWSWmc...feature=related

Part Nine (9/10) - The Loner (thinking man's western) the film "Seven Days in May" - "The Night Gallery" (Contradictions in Personality)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LGiLQ934Yw...feature=related

Part Ten (10/10) - Last Years (The Teacher ) Serling's Legacy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BvHTVi91hw...feature=related

Discussion on writing for television :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9XHazbh8Is...feature=related

Interview with Rod Serling :

Interview Part One (includes discussion of censorship)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ8dTT2BRp4...feature=related

Interview Part Two (ending socio-political involvement)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05SlHecA1hk...feature=related

"The Shelter" A full episode of the Twilight Zone starts here (In 3 Parts)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHIxR-D4Evo...feature=related

Rod Serling Trailer :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjup0ST2GOM...feature=related

All the episodes of Twilight Zone can be found HERE.

It had a big effect on me when I watched the shows. The opening lines...'Do not attempt to adjust your TV...we are in control of the transmission....' [or some such] gave one pause about who controlled information and TV.....the stories usually were very interesting and convoluted ideas on what is reality; how to know what is real and truthful; trust in authority and other subversive messages. Trivia: My sister knew and even dated Serling briefly.

"There is a sixth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, and it lies between the pit of man's fear and the sunlight of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area that might be called the Twilight Zone."

"You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension....a dimension of sound....a dimension of sight....a dimension of mind....You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance...of things and ideas...You've just crossed over...into the Twilight Zone."

"This highway leads to the shadowy tip of reality; you're on a through route to the land of the different, the bizarre, the unexplainable...Go as far as you like on this road. It's limits are only those of the mind itself. Ladies and gentlemen, you're entering the wondrous dimension of imagination. Next stop - THE TWILIGHT ZONE."

- Rod Serling: "I thought I made the title up, but I've heard since that there is an Air Force term relating to a moment when a plane is coming down on approach and it cannot see the horizon, it's called the twilight zone, but it's an obscure term which I had not heard before."

John Simkin · June 28, 2009

I WANT TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THE MODERATORS BECAUSE A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM - JOHN BEVILAQUA - UNDER THE FAKE NAME OF PATRICK HENRY, ATTACKED MY JFKCOUNTERCOUP BLOG, POSTING CHILDISH AND IDIOTIC COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE HIM TO BE THE ONE WHO DID THE SAME THING TO THE JFK GRAND JURY PETITION.
IF HE IS ALLOWED TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM, HE SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO RUN AMOK OVER OTHER MEMBER'S BLOGS AND SITES AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR, EVEN THOUGH HE TRIES TO HIDE BEHIND A FALSE NAME.

I am not sure how it is possible for moderators of this forum can control the postings on your blog? Especially, when it is difficult to identify the person who is doing it.

William Kelly · June 28, 2009

I WANT TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THE MODERATORS BECAUSE A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM - JOHN BEVILAQUA - UNDER THE FAKE NAME OF PATRICK HENRY, ATTACKED MY JFKCOUNTERCOUP BLOG, POSTING CHILDISH AND IDIOTIC COMMENTS, AND I BELIEVE HIM TO BE THE ONE WHO DID THE SAME THING TO THE JFK GRAND JURY PETITION.
IF HE IS ALLOWED TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS FORUM, HE SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO RUN AMOK OVER OTHER MEMBER'S BLOGS AND SITES AND SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS BEHAVIOR, EVEN THOUGH HE TRIES TO HIDE BEHIND A FALSE NAME.

I am not sure how it is possible for moderators of this forum can control the postings on your blog? Especially, when it is difficult to identify the person who is doing it.

Can anyone identify this person who claims to be Patrick Henry?

http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/

Patrick Henry said...

In my honest opinion neither Peter Whitmey nor Ken Rahn are dead wrong on this entire issue. Fortunately, Whitmey disappeared from the JFK case after it was discovered by "blackburst" that Ferrie was a pallbearer at his uncle's funeral in Cleveland, Ohio on 2/13/1964 when the wake was held and on 2/14/1964 when the funeral was held. This makes it physically impossible for Ferrie to have been in Winnipeg in mid-afternoon on 2/13/1963. Shouldn't your readership, as small as it may be, be made aware of this significant new development? I believe that John Bevilaqua has essentially solved this Winnipeg Airport Incident with his identification of GLK Smith, Eric D. Butler and Anastase Vonsiatsky as the most likely meeting attendees and you would have to agree wholeheartedly, right?

http://www.blogger.com/profile/14219145531080202682

Patrick Henry said…. A four page cable from SAC, Miami to Director and SACS, Dallas and San Antonio reads: "Ernest Aragon, U. S. Secret Service agent advised that about midnight Nov. 24-25 he received information from SS in San Antonio that a long distance telephone call had been placed by Jose San Antonio Cabaca in Mexico City to Dr. Emilio Nunez Portuondo in Miami. The conversation was in Spanish. The gist was 'plan of Castro carried forth. Bobby is next. Soon the atomic bombs will rain and they will not know from where.'"

Nathaniel Weyl also admits to knowing Emilio Nunez Portuondo.

Now that you have been informed that Portuondo was the Latin American Editor for Charles Willoughby's Foreign Intelligence Digest and for Spas T. Raikin's American Friends of the Anti-Bolshevik Nations Intelligence publication doesn't that sort of throw your 40 years of research into hell in a hand baskeyt? How does it feel to spend 40 years of your life on something only to get almost every detail absolutely and totally incorrect? We all know that The John Birch Society, WACL and the ABN led by Morris, Willoughby, Stetsko, Vonsiatsky,

Draper's man at WACL The Pioneer Fund, Roger Pearson, et al really killed JFK and then blamed it all on the CIA, why don't you? There is still time to save face and jump on the "Right" bandwagon, why don't you give it a shot? Inquiring minds want to know.

Looks like you have spent a lot of time lost in the LaBrea Tarpits of the JFK investigation. An old and crusty wooly mammoth is going to mistake you for his little beatch, sneak up behind you and skewer you with his tusks, and somehow I think you would find that just enchanting. How the heck can anyone spend 35 years on this case and still remain as clueless as you apparently are? Get a life, get a wife... and mammoths don't count either. Gronnnkkkkkk!

xage cable from SAC, Miami to Director and SACS, Dallas and San Antonio reads: "Ernest Aragon, U. S. Secret Service agent advised that about midnight Nov. 24-25 he received information from SS in San Antonio that a long distance telephone call had been placed by Jose San Antonio Cabaca in Mexico City to Dr. Emilio Nunez Portuondo in Miami. The conversation was in Spanish. The gist was 'plan of Castro carried forth. Bobby is next. Soon the atomic bombs will rain and they will not know from where.'"

Nathaniel Weyl also admits to knowing Emilio Nunez Portuondo.

Now that you have been informed that Portuondo was the Latin American Editor for Charles Willoughby's Foreign Intelligence Digest and for Spas T. Raikin's American Friends of the Anti-Bolshevik Nations Intelligence publication doesn't that sort of throw your 40 years of research into hell in a hand baskeyt? How does it feel to spend 40 years of your life on something only to get almost every detail absolutely and totally incorrect? We all know that The John Birch Society, WACL and the ABN led by Morris, Willoughby, Stetsko, Vonsiatsky,

Draper's man at WACL The Pioneer Fund, Roger Pearson, et al really killed JFK and then blamed it all on the CIA, why don't you? There is still time to save face and jump on the "Right" bandwagon, why don't you give it a shot? Inquiring minds want to know.

Patrick Henry said...

Looks like you have spent a lot of time lost in the LaBrea Tarpits of the JFK investigation. An old and crusty wooly mammoth is going to mistake you for his little beatch, sneak up behind you and skewer you with his tusks, and somehow I think you would find that just enchanting. How the heck can anyone spend 35 years on this case and still remain as clueless as you apparently are? Get a life, get a wife... and mammoths don't count either. Gronnnkkkkkk!

Patrick Henry said...

Looks like you have spent a lot of time lost in the LaBrea Tarpits of the JFK investigation. An old and crusty wooly mammoth is going to mistake you for his little beatch, sneak up behind you and skewer you with his tusks, and somehow I think you would find that just enchanting. How the heck can anyone spend 35 years on this case and still remain as clueless as you apparently are? Get a life, get a wife... and mammoths don't count either. Gronnnkkkkkk!

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Patrick Henry said...

Bet you were really surprised to find out that Gen. Edward Lansdale who was spotted in Dealey Plaza on the day Kennedy was killed reported to my number one suspect in the JFK hit, Maj Gen Charles Willoughby during World War II. Many JFK buffs forget that the U.S. Air Force started out as the Army Air Corps. So Lansdale was probably acting as an agent of the Willoughby forces in Dealey Plaza that fateful day then, right? So why do all JFK buffs, apparently you included, only focus on the facts that they want to believe and those they want others to believe? Lansdale in Dealey Plaza previously was cited as

absolute and positive evidence of

nothing but CIA involvement in the JFK hit, when in fact you should realized by now that current or former Army Intel, ONI, DIA and ASC operatives were deeply involved as well. What is your issue with accepting the fact that Willoughby, Morris, Walker and the John Birch Society were involved as thick as thieves with the JFK Plot? Even Jack Ruby himself, who certainly knows a whole lot more about the JFK than you do, implicated Edwin A. Walker and The John Birch Society as the main plotmasters. So what sort of special qualifications make you even smarter than Jack Ruby about the case? Inquiring minds want to know. Just because your father was a homicide detective makes you some sort of expert on Project Valkyrie, the JFK hit and Who Killed Cock Robin?

Well maybe the latter, but certainly neither of the former 2

cases which require insight, analytical abilities and a level of perspicacity far beyond that which you possess. My feeling is that you are basically an anarchist who is anti-USA and anti-Government and anti-CIA and you only want to put down everybody and everything that you disagree with, right? What is your ultimate plan? A violent overthrow of the U.S. Government?

Disbanding of the FBI, the CIA and Army Intel? Tell us more. Just because the John Birch Society, Charles Willoughby, Robert Morris and Edwin Walker can not be linked to the CIA or the FBI, you deliberately choose to ignore the evidence against them? How short-sighted! How obtuse, how narrow minded and how very con-veeee-nient! Just because YOU did not discover Willoughby, you have to put down anyone who did contribute to his identification as a primary suspect as the mastermind of the JFK hit. I think many people see right through you and cut to the quick. You were probably sympathetic to ex-McCarthyites like Sarah McClendon, the former White House correspondent who was on the founding Board of COPA, right? And how about that M.D. from California whose parents ran John Birch Society meetings in his home for years? Ever wonder why he did not investigate The John Birch Society or Young Americans for Freedom of William Buckley? Well wonder no more. Should be obvious to everyone.

For you have just been BUSTED!

Patrick Henry said...

A four page cable from SAC, Miami to Director and SACS, Dallas and San Antonio reads: "Ernest Aragon, U. S. Secret Service agent advised that about midnight Nov. 24-25 he received information from SS in San Antonio that a long distance telephone call had been placed by Jose San Antonio Cabaca in Mexico City to Dr. Emilio Nunez Portuondo in Miami. The conversation was in Spanish. The gist was 'plan of Castro carried forth. Bobby is next. Soon the atomic bombs will rain and they will not know from where.'"

Nathaniel Weyl also admits to knowing Emilio Nunez Portuondo.

Now that you have been informed that Portuondo was the Latin American Editor for Charles Willoughby's Foreign Intelligence Digest and for Spas T. Raikin's American Friends of the Anti-Bolshevik Nations Intelligence publication doesn't that sort of throw your 40 years of research into hell in a hand baskeyt? How does it feel to spend 40 years of your life on something only to get almost every detail absolutely and totally incorrect? We all know that The John Birch Society, WACL and the ABN led by Morris, Willoughby, Stetsko, Vonsiatsky,

Draper's man at WACL The Pioneer Fund, Roger Pearson, et al really killed JFK and then blamed it all on the CIA, why don't you? There is still time to save face and jump on the "Right" bandwagon, why don't you give it a shot? Inquiring minds want to know. I think you are so dead set on blaming US Gov active employees for the JFK hit that you have totally missed the mark on all those who USED to work for the US Gov but had been drummed out ignominiously and embarrassingly years and years ago like MacArthur and Willoughby and all the others on the John Birch Society like Edwin Walker.

Are you some sort of anti-Gov anarchist or "reich winger" bent on destroying our form of government or what? Why do you not mention all those who were not getting a US Gov paycheck?

Patrick Henry said...

Bet you were really surprised to find out that Gen. Edward Lansdale who was spotted in Dealey Plaza on the day Kennedy was killed reported to my number one suspect in the JFK hit, Maj Gen Charles Willoughby during World War II. Many JFK buffs forget that the U.S. Air Force started out as the Army Air Corps. So Lansdale was probably acting as an agent of the Willoughby forces in Dealey Plaza that fateful day then, right? So why do all JFK buffs, apparently you included, only focus on the facts that they want to believe and those they want others to believe? Lansdale in Dealey Plaza previously was cited as absolute and positive evidence of

nothing but CIA involvement in the JFK hit, when in fact you should realized by now that current or former Army Intel, ONI, DIA and ASC operatives were deeply involved as well. What is your issue with accepting the fact that Willoughby, Morris, Walker and the John Birch Society were involved as thick as thieves with the JFK Plot? Even Jack Ruby himself, who certainly knows a whole lot more about the JFK than you do, implicated Edwin A. Walker and The John Birch Society as the main plotmasters. So what sort of special qualifications make you even smarter than Jack Ruby about the case? Inquiring minds want to know. Just because your father was a homicide detective makes you some sort of expert on Project Valkyrie, the JFK hit and Who Killed Cock Robin?

Tell us more. Just because the John Birch Society, Charles Willoughby, Robert Morris and Edwin Walker can not be linked to the CIA or the FBI, you deliberately choose to ignore the evidence against them? How short-sighted! How obtuse, how narrow minded and how very con-veeee-nient! Just because YOU did not discover Willoughby, you have to put down anyone who did contribute to his identification as a primary suspect as the mastermind of the JFK hit. I think many people see right through you and cut to the quick. You were probably sympathetic to ex-McCarthyites like Sarah McClendon, the former White House correspondent who was on the founding Board of COPA, right? And how about that M.D. from California whose parents ran John Birch Society meetings in his home for years? Ever wonder why he did not investigate The John Birch Society or Young Americans for Freedom of William Buckley? Well wonder no more. Should be obvious to everyone.

For you have just been BUSTED!

A four page cable from SAC, Miami to Director and SACS, Dallas and San Antonio reads: "Ernest Aragon, U. S. Secret Service agent advised that about midnight Nov. 24-25 he received information from SS in San Antonio that a long distance telephone call had been placed by Jose San Antonio Cabaca in Mexico City to Dr. Emilio Nunez Portuondo in Miami. The conversation was in Spanish. The gist was 'plan of Castro carried forth. Bobby is next. Soon the atomic bombs will rain and they will not know from where.'"

Now that you have been informed that Portuondo was the Latin American Editor for Charles Willoughby's Foreign Intelligence Digest and for Spas T. Raikin's American Friends of the Anti-Bolshevik Nations Intelligence publication doesn't that sort of throw your 40 years of research into hell in a hand baskeyt? How does it feel to spend 40 years of your life on something only to get almost every detail absolutely and totally incorrect? We all know that The John Birch Society, WACL and the ABN led by Morris, Willoughby, Stetsko, Vonsiatsky,

Draper's man at WACL The Pioneer Fund, Roger Pearson, et al really killed JFK and then blamed it all on the CIA, why don't you? There is still time to save face and jump on the "Right" bandwagon, why don't you give it a shot? Inquiring minds want to know. I think you are so dead set on blaming US Gov active employees for the JFK hit that you have totally missed the mark on all those who USED to work for the US Gov but had been drummed out ignominiously and embarrassingly years and years ago like MacArthur and Willoughby and all the others on the John Birch Society like Edwin Walker.

Patrick Henry said...

You left out some of the most important Philadelphians associated with Anastase Vonsiatsky including his first employer in Philadelphia, Samuel M. Vauclain of The Baldwin Locomotive Works, Elliott Bacon a partner with J. P. Morgan Company and an heir to the Vanderbilt Railroad fortune. Since you have just recently become enamored with the concept of Vonsiatsky, as both The Manchurian Candidate and an attendee at The Winnipeg Airport Incident shouldn't you also include Vauclain, Vonsiatsky and even Spas T. Raikin from nearby East Stroudburg, PA as well? You wouldn't want to be left at the starting gate without including these major contributors to Vonsiatsky's early days in Philadelphia, now would you? Vauclain was later a very important Republican at the 1920 Convention and sold locomotives to all of the United Fruit installations throughout Central and Latin America. And Vonsiatsky was "The Manchurian Candidate" whose direct report was George de Mohrenschildt who was in all likelihood, Oswald's handler and mind controller. Glad to see you are finally on board with Vonsiatsky in Winnipeg and Vonsiatsky and de Mohrenschildt in Harbin, Manchuria. It has been a long time coming.

William Kelly · June 28, 2009

Rod Serling

From Twilight Zone Companion ( x 19 )

p. 24

…Undoubtedly, the most significant change made was in the identity of the narrator. Originally, the narrator was not Rod Serling. “That came about accidentally and out of necessity, I guess.” Says (Bill) Self. “It was from the outset decided that there would be a narrator, someone who would set the stage or wrap it up. The first person we used was Westbrook Van Voorhis, who had done The March of Time and had this kind of big voice. But when we listened to it we decided it was a little too pompous-sounding.”

At the screenings of the pilot in New York, all agreed that a different narrator had to be found. Ira Steiner, then of the Ashley-Steiner Agency, which represented Serling, remembers the general consensus: “Orson Welles was the choice for the narrator, he was everybody’s numero uno. That is, he was everybody’s choice but once; Rod was not at all thrilled with the idea of Orson Welles narrate The Twilight Zone. But Welles sat well with the agency, sat well with the sponsor, sat well with the network, - except for one little problem….he was quoted at a price…more than…(we) had I mind as a budget.

Many narrators were suggested who would be within the budget, but no choice was satisfactory to all concerned. Bill Self recalls, “Finally, Rod himself made the suggestion that maybe he should do it. It was received with skepticism. None of us knew Rod except as a writer. But he did a terrific job.”

Two shows of relevance:

“THE MIRROR” (October 20, 1961)

Written by Rod Serling

Ramos Clemente: Peter Falk

“This is the face of Ramos Clemente, a year ago a beardless, nameless worker of the dirt who plodded behind a mule, furrowing someone else’s land. And he looked up at a hot Central American sun and he pledged the impossible. He made a vow that he would lead an avenging army against the tyranny that put the ache in his back and the anguish in his eyes, and now one year later the dream of the impossible has become a fact. In just a moment we will look deep into this mirror and see the aftermath of a rebellion…in the Twilight Zone.”

After seizing power, Clemente is told by General DeCruz, the deposed tyrant, that a magic mirror in his office reveals the face of one’s assassin’s.

Looking into it, Clemente sees his compatriots advancing on him with machine gun, knives and poison. He kills them all but this brings him no sense of security. When a priest tells him that the people are appalled by the round-the-clock executions he has ordered, Clemente replies that the people are not his concern, that he sees assassins everywhere and is constantly afraid. The priest tells him that tyrants have only one real enemy, “the one they never recognize – until it is too late.” He exists. All alone, Clemente spies his own reflection in the mirror, shatters it, then shoots himself. The priest rushes in. “The last assassin,” he says, “And they never learn. They never seem to learn.”

“Ramos Clemente, a would-be god in dungarees, strangled by an illusion, that will-o’-the-wisp mirage that dangles from the sky in front of the eyes of all ambitious men, all tyrants – and any resemblance to tyrants living or dead is hardly coincidental, whether it is here or in the Twilight Zone.”

“NO TIME LIKE THE PAST” – March 7, 1963

Written by Rod Serling

Photo of Dana Andrews looking through the scope of a rifle.

“Exit one Paul Driscoll, a creature of the twentieth century. He puts to a test a complicated theorem of space-time continuum, but he goes a step further – or tries to. Shortly, he will seek out three moments of the past in a desperate attempt to alter the present – one of the odd and fanciful functions in a shadowland known as the Twilight Zone.”

Sick to death of the constant threat of nuclear obliteration in the modern world, Driscoll utilizes a time machine in order to change past events. He soon finds however, that it isn’t as simple as he had thought:….; his attempt on Adolph Hitler is foiled when a German maid summons the Gestapo; …Driscoll is in a hotel room, kneeling by a window, looking through the telescopic sight of a high-powered rifle. Through the sight we see Adolph Hitler. The year is 1939, the place Germany, Driscoll aims and slowly squeezes the trigger. Click. It was just a test run.

This is the worst kind of cheat. No assassin in his right mind would get his intended victim centered in the cross hairs of his rifle without intending to fire. He would know that he might not get a second chance – as indeed Driscoll does not….

AIRED MARCH 7, 1963 - One month before the attack on Walker

Edited June 28, 2009 by William Kelly

William Kelly · June 30, 2009

Rod Serling
From Twilight Zone Companion ( x 19 )

p. 24

…Undoubtedly, the most significant change made was in the identity of the narrator. Originally, the narrator was not Rod Serling. “That came about accidentally and out of necessity, I guess.” Says (Bill) Self. “It was from the outset decided that there would be a narrator, someone who would set the stage or wrap it up. The first person we used was Westbrook Van Voorhis, who had done The March of Time and had this kind of big voice. But when we listened to it we decided it was a little too pompous-sounding.”

At the screenings of the pilot in New York, all agreed that a different narrator had to be found. Ira Steiner, then of the Ashley-Steiner Agency, which represented Serling, remembers the general consensus: “Orson Welles was the choice for the narrator, he was everybody’s numero uno. That is, he was everybody’s choice but once; Rod was not at all thrilled with the idea of Orson Welles narrate The Twilight Zone. But Welles sat well with the agency, sat well with the sponsor, sat well with the network, - except for one little problem….he was quoted at a price…more than…(we) had I mind as a budget.

Many narrators were suggested who would be within the budget, but no choice was satisfactory to all concerned. Bill Self recalls, “Finally, Rod himself made the suggestion that maybe he should do it. It was received with skepticism. None of us knew Rod except as a writer. But he did a terrific job.”

Two shows of relevance:

“THE MIRROR” (October 20, 1961)

Written by Rod Serling

Ramos Clemente: Peter Falk

“This is the face of Ramos Clemente, a year ago a beardless, nameless worker of the dirt who plodded behind a mule, furrowing someone else’s land. And he looked up at a hot Central American sun and he pledged the impossible. He made a vow that he would lead an avenging army against the tyranny that put the ache in his back and the anguish in his eyes, and now one year later the dream of the impossible has become a fact. In just a moment we will look deep into this mirror and see the aftermath of a rebellion…in the Twilight Zone.”

After seizing power, Clemente is told by General DeCruz, the deposed tyrant, that a magic mirror in his office reveals the face of one’s assassin’s.

Looking into it, Clemente sees his compatriots advancing on him with machine gun, knives and poison. He kills them all but this brings him no sense of security. When a priest tells him that the people are appalled by the round-the-clock executions he has ordered, Clemente replies that the people are not his concern, that he sees assassins everywhere and is constantly afraid. The priest tells him that tyrants have only one real enemy, “the one they never recognize – until it is too late.” He exists. All alone, Clemente spies his own reflection in the mirror, shatters it, then shoots himself. The priest rushes in. “The last assassin,” he says, “And they never learn. They never seem to learn.”

“Ramos Clemente, a would-be god in dungarees, strangled by an illusion, that will-o’-the-wisp mirage that dangles from the sky in front of the eyes of all ambitious men, all tyrants – and any resemblance to tyrants living or dead is hardly coincidental, whether it is here or in the Twilight Zone.”

“NO TIME LIKE THE PAST” – March 7, 1963

Written by Rod Serling

Photo of Dana Andrews looking through the scope of a rifle.

“Exit one Paul Driscoll, a creature of the twentieth century. He puts to a test a complicated theorem of space-time continuum, but he goes a step further – or tries to. Shortly, he will seek out three moments of the past in a desperate attempt to alter the present – one of the odd and fanciful functions in a shadowland known as the Twilight Zone.”

Sick to death of the constant threat of nuclear obliteration in the modern world, Driscoll utilizes a time machine in order to change past events. He soon finds however, that it isn’t as simple as he had thought:….; his attempt on Adolph Hitler is foiled when a German maid summons the Gestapo; …Driscoll is in a hotel room, kneeling by a window, looking through the telescopic sight of a high-powered rifle. Through the sight we see Adolph Hitler. The year is 1939, the place Germany, Driscoll aims and slowly squeezes the trigger. Click. It was just a test run.

This is the worst kind of cheat. No assassin in his right mind would get his intended victim centered in the cross hairs of his rifle without intending to fire. He would know that he might not get a second chance – as indeed Driscoll does not….

AIRED MARCH 7, 1963 - One month before the attack on Walker

Let's see.

Mid-February - Volkmar Schmidt meets Oswald at a party set up for Oswald to meet Michael Paine - and talks to him about General Walker and assassinating Hitler.

March - Oswald orders rifle and pistol via US mail.

March 7, 1963 - The Twilight Zone tv show includes a character who has the opportunity to kill Hitler from a window with a high powered rifle.

DID OSWALD SEE THIS TWILIGHT ZONE SEGMENT?

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT NIGHT OF THE WEEK IT WAS BROADCAST AND WHAT OSWALD WAS DOING AT THE TIME. - Thanks -

April 10, 1963 - Walker assassination attempt, from someone with a rifle; Oswald tells Marina he did it.

Oswald relocates to New Orleans; Mrs. Paine bringing the alleged assassin rifle with her in her station wagon, and again,

September 23, 1963 - Mrs. Paine picks up Marina, the kids and the rifle and delivers them to her home in Irving, Texas.

November 22, 1963 - Oswald is accused of killing JFK from a window with a high powered rifle.

Robert Howard · June 30, 2009

Rod Serling
From Twilight Zone Companion ( x 19 )

p. 24

…Undoubtedly, the most significant change made was in the identity of the narrator. Originally, the narrator was not Rod Serling. “That came about accidentally and out of necessity, I guess.” Says (Bill) Self. “It was from the outset decided that there would be a narrator, someone who would set the stage or wrap it up. The first person we used was Westbrook Van Voorhis, who had done The March of Time and had this kind of big voice. But when we listened to it we decided it was a little too pompous-sounding.”

At the screenings of the pilot in New York, all agreed that a different narrator had to be found. Ira Steiner, then of the Ashley-Steiner Agency, which represented Serling, remembers the general consensus: “Orson Welles was the choice for the narrator, he was everybody’s numero uno. That is, he was everybody’s choice but once; Rod was not at all thrilled with the idea of Orson Welles narrate The Twilight Zone. But Welles sat well with the agency, sat well with the sponsor, sat well with the network, - except for one little problem….he was quoted at a price…more than…(we) had I mind as a budget.

Many narrators were suggested who would be within the budget, but no choice was satisfactory to all concerned. Bill Self recalls, “Finally, Rod himself made the suggestion that maybe he should do it. It was received with skepticism. None of us knew Rod except as a writer. But he did a terrific job.”

Two shows of relevance:

“THE MIRROR” (October 20, 1961)

Written by Rod Serling

Ramos Clemente: Peter Falk

“This is the face of Ramos Clemente, a year ago a beardless, nameless worker of the dirt who plodded behind a mule, furrowing someone else’s land. And he looked up at a hot Central American sun and he pledged the impossible. He made a vow that he would lead an avenging army against the tyranny that put the ache in his back and the anguish in his eyes, and now one year later the dream of the impossible has become a fact. In just a moment we will look deep into this mirror and see the aftermath of a rebellion…in the Twilight Zone.”

After seizing power, Clemente is told by General DeCruz, the deposed tyrant, that a magic mirror in his office reveals the face of one’s assassin’s.

Looking into it, Clemente sees his compatriots advancing on him with machine gun, knives and poison. He kills them all but this brings him no sense of security. When a priest tells him that the people are appalled by the round-the-clock executions he has ordered, Clemente replies that the people are not his concern, that he sees assassins everywhere and is constantly afraid. The priest tells him that tyrants have only one real enemy, “the one they never recognize – until it is too late.” He exists. All alone, Clemente spies his own reflection in the mirror, shatters it, then shoots himself. The priest rushes in. “The last assassin,” he says, “And they never learn. They never seem to learn.”

“Ramos Clemente, a would-be god in dungarees, strangled by an illusion, that will-o’-the-wisp mirage that dangles from the sky in front of the eyes of all ambitious men, all tyrants – and any resemblance to tyrants living or dead is hardly coincidental, whether it is here or in the Twilight Zone.”

“NO TIME LIKE THE PAST” – March 7, 1963

Written by Rod Serling

Photo of Dana Andrews looking through the scope of a rifle.

“Exit one Paul Driscoll, a creature of the twentieth century. He puts to a test a complicated theorem of space-time continuum, but he goes a step further – or tries to. Shortly, he will seek out three moments of the past in a desperate attempt to alter the present – one of the odd and fanciful functions in a shadowland known as the Twilight Zone.”

Sick to death of the constant threat of nuclear obliteration in the modern world, Driscoll utilizes a time machine in order to change past events. He soon finds however, that it isn’t as simple as he had thought:….; his attempt on Adolph Hitler is foiled when a German maid summons the Gestapo; …Driscoll is in a hotel room, kneeling by a window, looking through the telescopic sight of a high-powered rifle. Through the sight we see Adolph Hitler. The year is 1939, the place Germany, Driscoll aims and slowly squeezes the trigger. Click. It was just a test run.

This is the worst kind of cheat. No assassin in his right mind would get his intended victim centered in the cross hairs of his rifle without intending to fire. He would know that he might not get a second chance – as indeed Driscoll does not….

AIRED MARCH 7, 1963 - One month before the attack on Walker

Let's see.

Mid-February - Volkmar Schmidt meets Oswald at a party set up for Oswald to meet Michael Paine - and talks to him about General Walker and assassinating Hitler.

March - Oswald orders rifle and pistol via US mail.

March 7, 1963 - The Twilight Zone tv show includes a character who has the opportunity to kill Hitler from a window with a high powered rifle.

DID OSWALD SEE THIS TWILIGHT ZONE SEGMENT?

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT NIGHT OF THE WEEK IT WAS BROADCAST AND WHAT OSWALD WAS DOING AT THE TIME. - Thanks -

April 10, 1963 - Walker assassination attempt, from someone with a rifle; Oswald tells Marina he did it.

Oswald relocates to New Orleans; Mrs. Paine bringing the alleged assassin rifle with her in her station wagon, and again,

September 23, 1963 - Mrs. Paine picks up Marina, the kids and the rifle and delivers them to her home in Irving, Texas.

November 22, 1963 - Oswald is accused of killing JFK from a window with a high powered rifle.

The Episode in question aired on March 7, 1963

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Time_Like_the_Past

According to the MFF Chronolgies, Lee Oswald worked a full day shift as Jaggar-Chiles-Stovall and then went to typing class that evening.....

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=164

Edited June 30, 2009 by Robert Howard

John Simkin · July 2, 2009

According to Gordon F. Sander's book "Serling: The Rise and Twilight of Television's Last Angry Man", Fletcher Knebel and Charles Bailey, the Washington-based reporters for the Des Moines Register, who wrote the original book, were upset with Serling's "anti-military slant" that he gave to the script.

Sander argues that "coming so soon after the Kennedy assassination, it was too searing for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' tastes. Instead Zorba the Greek and My Fair Lady walked away with most of the cinematic honours that year."

John Bevilaqua · July 2, 2009

Rod Serling
From Twilight Zone Companion ( x 19 )

p. 24

…Undoubtedly, the most significant change made was in the identity of the narrator. Originally, the narrator was not Rod Serling. “That came about accidentally and out of necessity, I guess.” Says (Bill) Self. “It was from the outset decided that there would be a narrator, someone who would set the stage or wrap it up. The first person we used was Westbrook Van Voorhis, who had done The March of Time and had this kind of big voice. But when we listened to it we decided it was a little too pompous-sounding.”

At the screenings of the pilot in New York, all agreed that a different narrator had to be found. Ira Steiner, then of the Ashley-Steiner Agency, which represented Serling, remembers the general consensus: “Orson Welles was the choice for the narrator, he was everybody’s numero uno. That is, he was everybody’s choice but once; Rod was not at all thrilled with the idea of Orson Welles narrate The Twilight Zone. But Welles sat well with the agency, sat well with the sponsor, sat well with the network, - except for one little problem….he was quoted at a price…more than…(we) had I mind as a budget.

Many narrators were suggested who would be within the budget, but no choice was satisfactory to all concerned. Bill Self recalls, “Finally, Rod himself made the suggestion that maybe he should do it. It was received with skepticism. None of us knew Rod except as a writer. But he did a terrific job.”

Two shows of relevance:

“THE MIRROR” (October 20, 1961)

Written by Rod Serling

Ramos Clemente: Peter Falk

“This is the face of Ramos Clemente, a year ago a beardless, nameless worker of the dirt who plodded behind a mule, furrowing someone else’s land. And he looked up at a hot Central American sun and he pledged the impossible. He made a vow that he would lead an avenging army against the tyranny that put the ache in his back and the anguish in his eyes, and now one year later the dream of the impossible has become a fact. In just a moment we will look deep into this mirror and see the aftermath of a rebellion…in the Twilight Zone.”

After seizing power, Clemente is told by General DeCruz, the deposed tyrant, that a magic mirror in his office reveals the face of one’s assassin’s.

Looking into it, Clemente sees his compatriots advancing on him with machine gun, knives and poison. He kills them all but this brings him no sense of security. When a priest tells him that the people are appalled by the round-the-clock executions he has ordered, Clemente replies that the people are not his concern, that he sees assassins everywhere and is constantly afraid. The priest tells him that tyrants have only one real enemy, “the one they never recognize – until it is too late.” He exists. All alone, Clemente spies his own reflection in the mirror, shatters it, then shoots himself. The priest rushes in. “The last assassin,” he says, “And they never learn. They never seem to learn.”

“Ramos Clemente, a would-be god in dungarees, strangled by an illusion, that will-o’-the-wisp mirage that dangles from the sky in front of the eyes of all ambitious men, all tyrants – and any resemblance to tyrants living or dead is hardly coincidental, whether it is here or in the Twilight Zone.”

“NO TIME LIKE THE PAST” – March 7, 1963

Written by Rod Serling

Photo of Dana Andrews looking through the scope of a rifle.

“Exit one Paul Driscoll, a creature of the twentieth century. He puts to a test a complicated theorem of space-time continuum, but he goes a step further – or tries to. Shortly, he will seek out three moments of the past in a desperate attempt to alter the present – one of the odd and fanciful functions in a shadowland known as the Twilight Zone.”

Sick to death of the constant threat of nuclear obliteration in the modern world, Driscoll utilizes a time machine in order to change past events. He soon finds however, that it isn’t as simple as he had thought:….; his attempt on Adolph Hitler is foiled when a German maid summons the Gestapo; …Driscoll is in a hotel room, kneeling by a window, looking through the telescopic sight of a high-powered rifle. Through the sight we see Adolph Hitler. The year is 1939, the place Germany, Driscoll aims and slowly squeezes the trigger. Click. It was just a test run.

This is the worst kind of cheat. No assassin in his right mind would get his intended victim centered in the cross hairs of his rifle without intending to fire. He would know that he might not get a second chance – as indeed Driscoll does not….

AIRED MARCH 7, 1963 - One month before the attack on Walker

Let's see.

Mid-February - Volkmar Schmidt meets Oswald at a party set up for Oswald to meet Michael Paine - and talks to him about General Walker and assassinating Hitler.

March - Oswald orders rifle and pistol via US mail.

March 7, 1963 - The Twilight Zone tv show includes a character who has the opportunity to kill Hitler from a window with a high powered rifle.

DID OSWALD SEE THIS TWILIGHT ZONE SEGMENT?

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT NIGHT OF THE WEEK IT WAS BROADCAST AND WHAT OSWALD WAS DOING AT THE TIME. - Thanks -

April 10, 1963 - Walker assassination attempt, from someone with a rifle; Oswald tells Marina he did it.

Oswald relocates to New Orleans; Mrs. Paine bringing the alleged assassin rifle with her in her station wagon, and again,

September 23, 1963 - Mrs. Paine picks up Marina, the kids and the rifle and delivers them to her home in Irving, Texas.

November 22, 1963 - Oswald is accused of killing JFK from a window with a high powered rifle.

Oswald ordered the rifle because James Eastland who later started "The Eastland Commission to Investigate the Assassination of JFK" according to Jim Marrs in Crossfire, was running an investigation into how easy it was to order a rifle through the mails. Not because Rod Serling planted the idea in is head in a Twilight Zone episode. But that is an interesting leap of faith to say the least.

Peter McGuire · November 26, 2010

I'd be willing to bet that the title of the novel and movie was a pun on "LeMay." I mean, it could have been "Seven Days in June" or "Seven Days in August."

I remember seeing the movie a couple of times, wondering how they came up with such a believable story about an attempted coup d'etat in America. It was preposterous, such a thing could never happen here, but they made it seem so realistic! That's how naive or stupid I was back then.

I was also a big fan of The Twilight Zone. It would never have occurred to me back then that the government would care what was being written or shown in the entertainment world. (I had no idea, for example, that the government was out to get the editor of Mad Magazine!) Weren't there more important things to worry about? I remember reading about how the "insane" Ernest Hemingway, who was just a novelist who enjoyed hunting and bullfights, was convinced that the FBI was spying on him. How crazy can you get!?

Talk about forecasting one's fate (JFK's) and art mimicking life!

For those who believe that The Nuclear Test Ban Treaty had something to do with Kennedy's demise, this movie portrays that exactly.

This movie is now playing on TCM.

We went out to see Hereafter yesterday, and then came home and watched The Night of the Iguana and then Seven Days in "LeMay" on TCM.

Great Film Day

Who arranges coup d'etats?

Generals. Thats who.

Edited November 26, 2010 by Peter McGuire

Peter McGuire · November 27, 2010

"An unpopular U.S. President manages to get a nuclear disarmament treaty through the Senate, but finds that the nation is turning against him. Jiggs Casey, a Marine Colonel, finds evidence that General Scott, the wildly popular head of the Joint Chiefs and certain Presidential Candidate in 2 years is not planning to wait. Casey goes to the president with the information and a web of intrigue begins with each side unsure of who can be trusted."

Written by John Vogel <jlvogel@comcast.net>

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058576/plotsummary

John F. Kennedy, a popular U. S. President signed the ratified Treaty on October 7, 1963, but behind the scenes.....

On August 5, 1963, after more than eight years of difficult negotiations, the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union signed the Limited Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.

The Treaty:

•prohibits nuclear weapons tests or other nuclear explosions under water, in the atmosphere, or in outer space

•allows underground nuclear tests as long as no radioactive debris falls outside the boundaries of the nation conducting the test

•pledges signatories to work towards complete disarmament, an end to the armaments race, and an end to the contamination of the environment by radioactive substances.

The Treaty is Signed

The Treaty was signed in Moscow on August 5, 1963, by U.S. Secretary Dean Rusk, Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko, and British Foreign Secretary Lord Home -- one day short of the 18th anniversary of the dropping of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.

Over the next two months, President Kennedy convinced a fearful public and a divided Senate to support the Treaty. The Senate approved the Limited Nuclear Test Ban on September 23, 1963, by an 80-19 margin. Kennedy signed the ratified Treaty on October 7, 1963.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/JFK+in+History/Nuclear+Test+Ban+Treaty.htm

Rocking the Boat

Any summary this brief of the time period is inevitably going to be too simplified to be anything than other than an introduction to this material. However, even a cursory glance at what was going on during Kennedy’s presidency reveals a number of things:

1. Kennedy grew to distrust his advisors, and actively ignored or even circumvented them.

2. He fired three key people from the CIA, including the head, Allen Dulles, who was a legend dating back to World War II.

3. He was withdrawing troops from Vietnam, when the official policy of the rest of the U.S. government was that Vietnam was a key piece of real estate in the Cold War against Communism.

4. He was pursuing détente with Cuba and the Soviet Union.

5. He had started to make overtures in the direction of civil rights.

6. He signed a nuclear test ban treaty.

Furthermore, Kennedy was a popular president.

Kennedy was popular across the globe in a way that no President has been since. This was threatening to his political enemies, because it seemed to invoke the possibility of a Kennedy dynasty – first John, then Bobby, then Ted – each pursuing a “liberal” agenda.

http://www.dissentingview.net/file/What_is_the_Historical_Context_of_the_Kennedy_Assassination.html

Edited November 27, 2010 by Peter McGuire

Paul Trejo · December 21, 2011

...

(I posed these questions and Jim replied.)

1) What do you make of Jack Ruby's attempt to implicate Edwin A. Walker and the Dallas Birch Society in the JFK hit during

Ruby's WC testimony?

...

I think that perhaps even I have given short shrift to the role of Edwin A. Walker over the years, having temporarily overlooked what

Jack Ruby and Richard Condon had to say about him decades ago. My guess is that many of you would reach the same conclusion.

Ironic is it not, that despite the number of MacArthur's minions thick as thieves in the JFK plot, little attention has been focused

on these characters over the years...

...After all, [Edwin A. Walker] joined Willoughby, MacArthur, Wm Potter Gale and others like Wedemeyer, Stratemeyer, Fellers, etc. among the recently humiliated, debunked and deposed anti-USA insurrectionists and mutinous recalcitrants who seemed to favor Nazism over Democracy as their birthright. This characterization might just blow the doors off most alternative conspiracy theories being proposed, but in fact history shall record this theory and this pattern as being quite factual. I just wonder why it took so long for this concept to get even a small foothold in JFK conspiracy documentation...

John, this thread from 2.5 years ago is excellent and I wish it had gone further than it did. I'd like to see it revived.

Starting with your question to Jim Root, "What about Ruby's naming of Walker and the JBS", I find this to be extremely important, and possibly may turn out to be the full resolution to the JFK assassination.

For one thing, we have an eye-witness to this connection in Harry Dean (a member of this Forum), who says he was in Mexico in early September, 1963, sitting with General Edwin Walker and members of the John Birch Society as they carefully planned every detail of the JFK assassination, including schedules, payrolls, the cover-up, and how to pin it all on Lee Harvey Oswald (c.f. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKdeanH.htm).

There is even more evidence. I have recently accessed the Edwin Walker archives at the Briscoe Center for American History at UT Austin, and the papers I found there raise my suspicions tenfold.

The fact that came out in the Warren Commission testimony was the biggest flaw in the cover-up, IMHO, namely, when General Walker thought that nobody would notice if he told a German Nazi newspaper on 11/23/1963 that Lee Oswald was also the man who shot at him on April 10, 1963. Liebeler asked Walker about this numerous times, but Walker wiggled out of it -- after all -- he was not on trial.

But the evidence is very clear. It not only appears in the Briscoe Center, it also appears on the Mary Ferrell website.

Ever since Liebeler almost found out Walker's secret, Walker could no longer keep it a secret, so he exploited it, and he sent the story to every newspaper he could -- for decades. This was the substance of most of his articles and speeches after that -- for the rest of his life.

I agree with Peter McGuire on this thread who said that Generals are in the best position to effect a coup. But General Walker was a special case. He had a personal vendetta against the Kennedys. The movie, "Seven Days in May," actually named Walker by name (near the end). Add this to the time that RFK had Walker arrested and detained in a psychiatric hospital. This was a political move, and Walker could never forgive RFK for the humiliation - after all, Walker was a decorated US General. It was disrespectful in the extreme.

Walker had a real grudge against the Kennedys. Also, I believe Walker wanted to be President. He quit the Army because Army personnel cannot engage in politics while in uniform. Well, he was promised political (and financial) support so he quit to start a speech-making career. I mean, he quit, he did not retire, he resigned without a pension (which would have been $100,000 a year in 2011 dollars). He was not independently wealthy. Who gives up that kind of money unless he has friends with deep pockets?

Walker had political ambitions. He ran for Governor of Texas (under the Democratic ticket) but he was smashed by Connally. The ill-fated race riots at Ole Miss were possibly the start of the plot to assassinate JFK. Most folks might call Walker a 'nut' today, but we should try to remember the generation in which Edwin Walker grew up. President Woodrow Wilson, the Democrat, had been nominated for President partly because he opposed racial integration of Princeton University. From that perspective, Edwin Walker was being true-blue American and truly conservative in his racist actions at Ole Miss. He wasn't a 'nut' he was simply old-fashioned and he believed that most Americans were old-fashioned like him. It is a legitimate political gamble, and not 'nutty' in the least.

Interesting thread. I hope it gets revived.

--Paul Trejo

Edited December 21, 2011 by Paul Trejo

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