JFK was on the trailing curve to prevent this?

[Jim Phelps]

While you're not patting yourself on the back for page views...

Do you have a problem with Jewish folks?

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Depends on the facet of Jewish Belief. You read the Babylon Talmud, the Jewish Law, and tell us that you agree with all the bad hate comments on Gentiles, the Non-Jewish.

Because, if you want to agree with those hate filled comments toward non Jewish oriented people, then you likely didn't need to ask a silly distraction question.

Edited September 28, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

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Getting back on the theme of Germany's big science and corperatism sweeping the US via the formation of the CIA, and the Dulles and Big Banker games.

About this same time as the creation of the CIA and getting all the German NAZIs out of Europe and putting them to work in the US, we find another interesting UFO encounter in 1946. This is right in the same time frame the US is shipping train car loads of Germany's rocket program captured booty into Roswell, NM.

Harry Dean left Canada, took up sailing the Great Lakes for a time, then got into the US Military and saw something interesting down at Sheppard Field in Texas.

He tells the follow on page 23 of his book / manuscript:

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UFOs

While on guard duty in 1946, at night on an isolated area of the main runway at Sheppard Field I was not only under general orders, but 'special orders'. My instruction were, shoot to kill if the right signal and password was not given by 'anyoe' approaching my position, that order even included any officer or sergeant of the guard! I was concerend, but proud that I had pulled such a security assignment. While walking that lonely post in the dark I loosed a few of the tie-down ropes of the canvas each time I passed the same area of the huge item. Finially tossing back the cover enough to see with my flashlight what valuable thing I was guarding. Turtle shaped, it was in a fourteen feet around but sloped to about sixteen feet in one area. From the flatfoot surfaced landing gear to what was an apparent escape hatch on it's almost half-round top section was near eight feet. The actual body above its extended hydraulic landers was little over five feet high. There were small auxilary wheels attached to these three legs with spaced in the somewhat flatter underside to retract smoothly with that surface. I had retied the tarp cover before the office of the guard made his hourly inspection round. In responding to his request to repeat my specific orders for that post it is certain I was extremely nervious, although no order stated that I 'could not' inspect what was a weird craft placed under my charge. My thinking was this dull-silver object was just another advance in aviation. I was not overly impressed by what I called a 'turtle' but thought silently "in the Army Air Force we have everything". Even 'the amazing helicopter' being prefected, was about to come into first use by our AAF in 1946.

Little more than a year later in July 1947 the title of U.F.O. came into the language after the mysterious crash was discovered near Roswell, New Mexico. Hearing about that, I realized one of the experimental 'turtles' had likely gone down just over three hundred miles distance from the 'U.F.O.' I had guarded at Sheppart Field Texas. Since late 1945 one hundred and fifty capture German scientists under Wernher Von Braun were working with American scientists at Alamogordo, and White Sands missle range in the New Mexico no great distance from Roswell. They were perfecting rocketry satellite, and space vehicles, et al: and one of their 'even yet' top secrets (the so-called flying saucer) was almost exposed!

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Edited September 28, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Stephen Roy]

While you're not patting yourself on the back for page views...

Do you have a problem with Jewish folks?

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Depends on the facet of Jewish Belief. You read the Babylon Talmud, the Jewish Law, and tell us that you agree with all the bad hate comments on Gentiles, the Non-Jewish.

Because, if you want to agree with those hate filled comments toward non Jewish oriented people, then you likely didn't need to ask a silly distraction question.

In your writings, it is hard to miss your unusually high level of interest in and focus on Jewish people. The phrasing of your response to my question tells me all I need to know.

[Jim Phelps]

Perhaps this should be called a Blue Book that seeks the light of day, with all the clouds pushed away, clearly exposing the corruption that stole American's Freedom:

So, I think Many Persons may have noticed that the "Spoils of War" from Germany had an immense impact on the US Intelligence Services. The US bankers got some stashed Hitler Money (Dulles / Rockefeller), the military got Jet Engines, Flying Wing, Lenticular aircraft, Nuclear Technology, and the Intelligence people got massive corperatism or IG Farben Fascism to shelter billionairs money and control over America. What Hoover started was what would come to be called the "Military / Industrial Network" as its operators and followers chewed into Eisenhower in the Mid-50's as Russia's Post-Stalin Khruschev was seeking better associations with the West, meaning the US. Hoover insisted the OSS be disbanded and Hoover essentially started the CIA via that insistance, and the "Mil / Ind Network".

This control of the US for wars started with the Federal Reserve and the Federal Income Tax, as the Royalist bankers controlled US President Wilson. This process of taking control of the US Politics got a lot worse when LBJ was elected to Congress and the Texans bullied their way into major Congressional Panels. LBJ was into taking pay-offs for services to get Texas contracts of all sorts. Some of those methods were about to get him tossed in jail. LBJ became good buddies with persons like Clint Merchison and HL Hunt, and his neighbor in DC Hoover also got into the same circles. Hoover also started taking bribes and pay-offs from Merchison and Hunt. LBJ and Hoover were tight with the mouth-pieces for the Mil / Ind Network. This system could not let the US lapse into not making war for their expansinism and paranoia that other's might take their control.

The mouthpiece for the Mil / Ind Network became largely the JBS formed by Robert Welch and funded by Rockefeller (Standard Oil). The JBS also had close associations with the "Mormons" or "LDS" (Latter-Day-Saints) and their concepts for "Danists", which would rise up to protect "The Constitution". Unfortunately, these overzealous anti-communists, drunk on their NAZI leadership's power and wealth, brought the US into Fascism and Corperate Oligachy mixed with Royalist's Impearlism. Put Simply, America isn't Free and it is highly controlled. The mechanism "The Constitution" put into place for "WE The People" has been compromised and taken over by corperate wealth's controllers.

The CIA pulled in lots of Ex-NAZIs to pick their brains and continue to harvest their technology ideas to make profits for US Corperate holders. They also brought in the concept of Fluoridation to keep the America Public dumb and pliable over the Fascist control that was about to slowly consume them. Hoover put in UK Intelligence and Zionist Louis Bloomfield to keep an eye on the NAZI components in the CIA and in the military network for rockets. Louis Bloomfield also was a key player in PERMINDEX, which was the UK's version of IG Farben's corperate spy network. JFK would get stuck between these two factions, one side out to set up the other to gain mutual gain in the death of JFK and conversion from Peace to anti-Communist War supportive LBJ.

Somewhat like the formation of the CIA, as the OSS was disbhanded, the Corperate Defender system in Europe, hidden under the idea of International Trade Marts, became PERMINDEX. PERMINDEX was a system that also thought the IG Farben Corperate models were desirable to support maintaining the wealth and position of Royalists Wealth. Their version of "Permanent Industrial Exposition" mean't they had people killed that interferred with their fascist Industry Corperate goals for their NWO money control design. They protected the Monarchists power and control, their Zionist intent, expansion of that economic system, and NWO design. When Hoover plugged PERMINDEX's Bloomfield into the DISC and DIV V equation, Hoover installed a connection for a non-domestic Intelligence Unit that specialized in killing people that went against their fascist corperate ambitions.

These elements of extreme corperatism claimed to protect America and Americans, claimed benevolent purpose, when all they did was enrich themselves, make themselves into an oligarchic system of power, reinvented Fascism, and now basically destroyed the concepts of the US Constitution. They followed the Royalist's religion designs to lord over the peoples of the world, acting as tyrants of old, herding them as dumb sheep.

JFK saw all these issues and intended on curbing their grip of evil power upon the US, ending their endless needs for wars, making Peace Upon the Earth, and restoring the intentions of the founding fathers that wrote The Constitution for We The People.

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Ref Wilson on Fed.:

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=660

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Some other good research on PERMINDEX and how it came into being can be seen in the LaRouche publication:

"The Permindex" By Linda de Hoyos

http://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1981/eirv08n15-19810414/eirv08n15-19810414_032-the_permindex_connection.pdf

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Another good read is this LaRouche publication on PERMINDEX and Walter Sheridan:

"How Permindex's Walter Sheridan tried to suppress the Kennedy investigation" By Richard McGraw

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1981/eirv08n50-19811229/eirv08n50-19811229_058-how_permindexs_walter_sheridan_t.pdf

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Edited September 29, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

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In your writings, it is hard to miss your unusually high level of interest in and focus on Jewish people. The phrasing of your response to my question tells me all I need to know.

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I think, if you read my writings, that I look at various factors from Riches (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Oil Barons, Monarchists), to Nationalities (Germans, Britons, Egyptians), to Political Affiliation (Socialistic, Communist, anti-Communist), to Religions (espeecially the Royalist's Religion they claim gives them the right to lord over others).

When I see Carlos Marcello, I know he is from Tunis and likely to have an Arab bias. If I see Meyer Lansky, I see a Jewish "Tough Guy" Mafia type exploiting people and the law. If I read Mae Brussell, I see a JFK reseacher concerned about being lied to by the Govt's NAZI connected corruption, and she is Jewish. When I see Dave Ferrie, I see a former commercial pilot, gay fella who flunked out of becoming a Catholic Priest, got hooked up with CIA games, got alopecia, and then some "Beast" trying to pin the JFK assassination all on him.

There are some book writers, in present company, that appear to attempt to put a JFK assassination bit part player into a bigger role than he took. Sure, Ferrie knew Marcello, lots of the anti-Castros, worked for CIA, and knew the plot to kill JFK, but the closest Ferrie got was being in Texas sitting beside a phone in anticipation. The idea of using dometic types to off JFK, when there was more protection from non-domestic killers, is all about why they really could not get to the JFK killers directly. Ferrie's best was telling JVB to go low profile, and being rather intelligent on the issues of cancer research and playing the kill Castro with Cancer game with Hunt's good ole boy Alton Oschner. Ferrie knew enough to get killed to shut him up from telling Garrison the roots of the plot in Dallas.

Every person gets an individual observation.

You are certainly free to unconditionally support that you are a "Goy"---and I will respect that you are a "Beast" due to be exploited, as you unconditionally support that being your description via this Talmud religion law.

I pay attention when a religion gives and teaches that it is OK to kill people, steal from them, lie, and belittle them. That kill law applies to Bloomfield and Rubenstein, who did it easily. If you don't pay attention to like problems, then that tells me a lot about you, your inabilty to sense discrimination, and the Talmud might be right for you and your vapidity.

I'd see you as unfit to be termed an American, as your loyalty isn't toward the Founding Father's Constitutional Protection. Your trying to put a corrupted religion's values before country is the root of how Royalists claim the rights to lord over people, drag them into wars, and treat them like dumb sheep.

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Ref:

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156

The "goyim" are not humans. They are beasts. (Baba Mezia 114b)

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So, you selected and fully supported yourself to be a "non-human beast", a lowly animal in Talmudic terms, by your phasing of your response. IMHO

Bye-bye, drop your vapid distraction nonsense somewhere else.

Edited September 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

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Most people noticed the JFK assassination was intentionally pre-loaded with a lot of Jewish Religion Oriented Folks by those associted with the John Birch Society in Dallas. HL Hunt, the biggest richest JFK hating Bircher, was behind lots of these Jewish inclusions. HL Hunt was Pro-NAZI type and likely why Weissman considered the Birchers in Dallas as anti-semitic.

So, we get the fella that placed the JFK newspaper ad, Bernard Weissman, we get Jacob Rubenstein, we get Abe Zapruder, we got shots coming from Morris Jaffee's building, and we have the Louis Bloomfield gang / PERMINDEX that formed from benevolent Romanian Jewish liberators in WWII.

The most obvious thing for why the FBI hauls off HL Hunt for safe keeping just after the JFK assassination is because Bloomfield / PERMINDEX operatives likely notice they set him up in Dallas and there could next well be a PERMINDEX bullet heading for HL Hunt's head for doing that. The NAZI elements from WWII didn't care for the UK Intelligence types nor their Zionist helpers that screwed Germany via their dealings.

So, Hoover obviously decides to take no chances with NAZI inclined Hunt, until he has time to make sure all the undercurrent ripples due to that set-up are checked out with Bloomfield.

We also have to take note there is a connection of LHO with HL Hunt's son, Nelson Hunt, who is seemingly named after Nelson Rockefeller. LHO also is connected with going to Russia to rebel rouse the Russians into making a bigger NAZI Wesserfall Rocket to shot down a U-2 and kick off tons of rocket work for NAZI scientists in the US.

This write-up below speaks to the issue of LHO's note to Nelson Hunt, and its validity. Obviously, Hunt had the game well in hand and they had to follow the Patsy Story, else HL Hunt and the Bircher Mouthpieces could literally destroy Bloomfield / PERMINDEX, Hoover, LBJ and lots more. They could get out the LIFE MAG story, that Zapruder's Film diverted, on Morris Jaffee's USAEC deals and LBJ and lots more. HL Hunt had the leverage to bring down the house, if things didn't go his and the Dallas Bircher's way. It was a high level chess match and Hunt had them all in Check-Mate.

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http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/the_critics/griffith/suspects.html

Oil Baron H. L. Hunt

Conspiracy theorists are generally suspicious of the late Texas oil billionaire H. L. Hunt. Hunt was a rabid right-wing extremist with intelligence connections. According to one of Hunt's special assistants, Hunt's top aides often heard him say that America would be "much better off without Kennedy" (5:277). On one occasion Hunt reportedly expressed his desire to see JFK shot (21:215).

The day before the assassination, Eugene Hale Brading, a Mafia man with a long arrest record, visited Hunt's office building in Dallas. Brading was arrested in Dealey Plaza on the day of the shooting when he was found to have taken an elevator to the ground floor of the Dal-Tex Building shortly after the shots were fired. Brading was released, however, because he gave the police an alias. While in Dallas, Brading stayed at the Cabana Hotel.

Jack Ruby visited that hotel, and Hunt's office building, on November 21. Moreover, according to Hunt's former chief aide, John Curington, Marina Oswald met with Hunt two days before the shooting.

On November 23, Hunt asked his chief aide to see what kind of security the police had for Oswald. The aide reported that Oswald had very little protection and that security was very lax at police headquarters where Oswald was being kept. Hunt flew to Washington, D.C., shortly after receiving this report. Oswald was killed on November 24.

Dick Russell's book THE MAN WHO KNEW TOO MUCH contains an important examination of H. L. Hunt's troubling activities before and after the assassination, as does Livingstone's KILLING THE TRUTH (see also 5:276-278 and 10:568, 573-574).

A few years after the assassination, a disturbing handwritten note surfaced. The note was addressed to a "Mr. Hunt" and was signed "Lee Harvey Oswald." Three independent handwriting experts retained by the DALLAS MORNING NEWS concluded the note was written by Oswald. In the note, which is dated November 8, 1963, Oswald asks about his "position" and requests a meeting before "any steps are taken by me or anyone else."

Was the "Mr. Hunt" oil giant H. L. Hunt? Or, was it E. Howard Hunt of the CIA? Documents declassified in 1983 revealed that the FBI apparently believed the note was addressed to H. L. Hunt's ultra-conservative millionaire son, Nelson Hunt.

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Edited September 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

For many, the HL Hunt and Bircher group plot to kill JFK became the perfect murder, since none of them officially were caught in the Public's Eyes. It was perfect only if one could ignore all the other follow on killings to plug up the leaks, and one of the PERMINDEX gang about to be hung by Garrison in New Orleans setting off another rash of killings. Maybe it wasn't so perfect in the sense of being a clean get away, as there was a huge trail of additional blood and casulties.

Anyone that seeks to solve the JFK assassination must understand the issues associated with PERMINDEX and that like the CIA came into existance after the urging of Hoover to kill the OSS, likewise PERMINDEX came into existance in Europe to soak up some of those OSS resources. PERMINDEX was the big idea of "Prince Bernhard" and was based upon his direct observations of the "state within a state" sucess of IG Farben for Hitler's War. Corporatism became the new angle for capitlist goals in the US and Europe. IG Farben was so respected that its HQ building was not bombed and kept to become Eisenhower's HQ in Germany.

PERMINDEX came to become highly driven by persons like Fernec Nagy, George Matello, and Tibor Rosenbaum, because they ran escape routes for Jewish Folks about to be shipped off to Hitler's war machine's work camps and such. These benevolent seeking purpose OSS related types became the formulation for PERMINDEX and it came to locate in Rome, where they began to cause a lot of CIA type, or old NAZI methods of killing those that don't fit your corperate political design goals. PERMINDEX got caught by the French and INTERPOL when they plotted to off DeGaulle over his non support of Isreal's Nuke program and cutting French Colony of Algeria loose to the Arab states. They were highly driven by these old goals of Nagy, Madello, and Rosenbaum.

Louis Bloomfield of UK Intelligence fame gets involved in PERMINDEX, after they are about to sink and it gets quickly moved from Rome to UK dominated South Africa. They've also managed to get Clay Shaw of the US involved in their global corperate ideas using the Trade Mart theme, but it was all about making a globalist version of IG Farben and likewise having their own Intelligence group that could kill whatever got in their ways to expand.

Reading on how PERMINDEX came into existance and their goals tells on a lot about how they were easily formulated into a plot to kill JFK, and just how easily those in Dallas could plug PERMINDEX into their own grand plan for the perfect murder.

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Here is the story and associations for Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands and IG Farben. It is also interesting to note the Mossad Office in Europe is located in the Netherlands due to this old associations. Also, the hoky James Files story is owned and hosted from the Netherlands, to apparently keep the heat off PERMINDEX. No study of PERMINDEX is complete without a good look at Bernhard and how PERMINDEX came into existance. Here is a small part of the Bernhard history:

http://www.bilderberg.org/bernhard.htm

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Bernhard did not burn all his bridges immediately. As a first step he got a job in the Paris office of I.G.Farben, the great German chemical combine. Though his training had been in law, he was fascinated by industry and finance, and thought that his talents lay in this direction. Which proved to be the case.

In Paris Bernhard threw all his energy into his new career. He says that he wanted to prove that it was not nepotism that got him the job. But the truth is that by now he was so geared to high-pressure work that he could not have done otherwise. Also, the more he learned about business the more interested he became.

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Many American conservatives believe as a matter of faith that the Rockefellers and the Council on Foreign Relations exercise absolute control over the government and the people of United States . This thesis can be accepted as a working formula if one remains conscious of the larger issues . Two writers for whom the present writer has great respect, Dr. Emanuel Josephson and Morris Bealle, insisted on focusing on the Rockefellers and excluding all other aspects of the World Order . This severely limited the effect of their otherwise ground breaking work on the Medical Monopoly.

This writer advanced a contrary view in ``The World Order,'' fixing upon the Rothschild monetary power, which reached a point of world control by 1885, and its London policy group, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, as the policy makers for what has essentially been since 1900, re-established colonial government in the United States. The colonial, or occupation, government, functions primarily through the Council on Foreign Relations, but only as the subsidiary of RIIA and through the Rockefeller Foundation which controls government functions, the educational establishments, the media, the religions and the state legislatures.

It is true that the American colonials have ``free elections,'' in which they have the absolute right to vote for one of two opposing candidates, both of whom have been handpicked and financed by the Rockefeller syndicate. This touching evidence of ``democracy'' serves to convince most Americana that we are indeed a free people. We even have a cracked Liberty Bell in Philadelphia to prove it. American youth have been free since 1900 to be marched off to die in Hegelian wars in which both combatants received their instructions from the World Order. We are free to invest in a stock market in which the daily quantity, price and value of the monetary unit is manipulated and controlled by a Federal Reserve System which is answerable only to the Bank of England. It has maintained its vaunted ``independence'' from our government's control, but this is the only independence it has ever had.

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I.G. Farben soon had a net worth of six billion marks, controlling some five hundred firms. Its first president was Professor Carl Bosch. During the period of the Weimar Republic, I.G. officials, seeing the handwriting on the wall, began a close association with Adolf Hitler, supplying much needed funds and political influence. The success of the I.G. Farben cartel had aroused the interest of other industrialists. Henry Ford was favorably impressed and set up a German branch of Ford Motor Company. Forty per cent of the stock was purchased by I.G. Farben. I.G. Farben then established an American subsidiary, called American I.G., in cooperation with Standard Oil of New Jersey . Its directors included Walter Teagle, president of Standard Oil, Paul Warburg of Kuhn Loeb & Company and Edsel Ford, representing the Ford interests. John Foster Dulles, for the law firm, Sullivan and Cromwell, became the attorney for I.G., frequently traveling between New York and Berlin on cartel business. His law partner, Arthur Dean, is now director of the $40 million Teagle Foundation which was set up before Teagle's death. Like other fortunes it had become part of the network. Like John Foster Dulles, Arthur Dean has been a director of American Banknote for many years; this is the firm which supplies the paper for our dollar bills. Dean also has been an active behind the scenes government negotiator, serving as arms negotiator at disarmament conferences. Dean was also a director of Rockefeller's American Ag & Chem Company. He was a director of American Solvay, American Metal and other firms. As attorney for the wealthy Hochschild family, who owned Climax Molybdenum and American Metal, Dean became director of their family foundation, the Hochschild Foundation. Dean is director emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Asia Foundation, International House, Carnegie Foundation, and the Sloan Kettering Cancer Center.

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Despite the incredible devastation of most German cities from World War II air bombings, the I.G. Farben building in Frankfort, one of the largest buildings there, miraculously survived intact. A large Rockefeller mansion in Frankfort also was left untouched by the war, despite the saturation bombing. Frankfort was the birthplace of the Rothschild family. It was hardly coincidental that the postwar government of Germany, Allied Military Government, should set up its offices in the magnificent I.G. Farben building. This government was headed by General Lucius Clay, who later became a partner of Lehman Brothers bankers in New York. The Political Division was headed by Robert Murphy, who would preside at the Nüremberg Trials, where he was successful in glossing over the implication of I.G.

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More of the story of PERMINDEX associations:

https://chinarose.wordpress.com/tag/permindex/

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The plan, as introduced by Lehman Brothers banker and U.S. Anglophile George W. Ball, was for the creation of a “world company” as a replacement for the nation-state. The plan was explicitly Malthusian, based upon the idea that corporations were much better suited to managing the world’s scarce resources than were nations and their governments. Governments, the Bilderbergers complained, had an unfortunate tendency to place the welfare of their people–or at least some of them–above the welfare of the imperial fatcats of the Anglo-Dutch Liberal empire. Far better, the oligarchs insisted, to let bloodless corporations–answerable only to the empire–run the show. It was an explicitly corporatist conception, corporatism being the method by which Benito Mussolini ran his Venetian-dominated fascist state. Under corporatism, the state becomes an appendage of the corporations.

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We also note with interest the intelligence connections of Halliburton and Transocean–the latter of which is registered in Rothschild-dominated Zug, Switzerland. Halliburton not only is the company of former Vice President Dick Cheney, but has long-standing connections to the U.S. intelligence community, notably through the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. Transocean is the result of a series of mergers, including the offshore drilling operations of Schlumberger, which, at least in part, is an intelligence agency operating inside an oil-services company. Schlumberger had a hand in the assassination of John F. Kennedy, through the person of Jean de Menil, husband of a Schlumberger heiress, a Schlumberger executive, and a member of Permindex, the Synarchist assassination bureau.

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Edited October 1, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Michael Hogan]

Zooming past 6,200 views now....

In your writings, it is hard to miss your unusually high level of interest in and focus on Jewish people. The phrasing of your response to my question tells me all I need to know.

.....Every person gets an individual observation.

You are certainly free to unconditionally support that you are a "Goy"---and I will respect that you are a "Beast" due to be exploited, as you unconditionally support that being your description via this Talmud religion law.

I pay attention when a religion gives and teaches that it is OK to kill people, steal from them, lie, and belittle them. That kill law applies to Bloomfield and Rubenstein, who did it easily. If you don't pay attention to like problems, then that tells me a lot about you, your inabilty to sense discrimination, and the Talmud might be right for you and your vapidity.

I'd see you as unfit to be termed an American, as your loyalty isn't toward the Founding Father's Constitutional Protection. Your trying to put a corrupted religion's values before country is the root of how Royalists claim the rights to lord over people, drag them into wars, and treat them like dumb sheep.

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Ref:

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156

The "goyim" are not humans. They are beasts. (Baba Mezia 114b)

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So, you selected and fully supported yourself to be a "non-human beast", a lowly animal in Talmudic terms, by your phasing of your response. IMHO

Bye-bye, drop your vapid distraction nonsense somewhere else.

Disgusting.

In June of this year Phelps' posting privileges were suspended for three days for "continuous baiting of other members." The moderators had received "many complaints" about his behavior.

The above reply to Stephen Roy is abhorrent by any standards.

[Jim Phelps]

It appears there are some baiters and detractor about that like to attempt to suggest religions are perfect, when many contain great evil. I don't endorse the evil parts and really no well informed and educated person would.

The baiters don't like to have the PERMINDEX Zionist factors exposed and they toss in distraction comments and intentionally attempt to disrupt logical presentations of all the factors in the JFK murder.

I've made this Hogan person look ignorant so many times it gets to be old. Hogan cranked out some crazy factor on pressure from bullet impacts in a technical discussion and got so far out on a technical limb on a concept intended for static pressures, that he came out with considerable mud on this ill use of science.

I made logical reservations on not buying into various concepts of religion, from one of the typical games they play here to not point at the Zionist factors in PERMINDEX, and showed the fellow that supports Talmud concepts unconditionally effectively allows himself to be called a "Beast" and worse. It was his choice. I didn't write the Talmud and lots of people have problems with endorsing that hate expressed in the Talmud. But when a person so desires to unconditionally support what the Talmud tells, I am all for telling them what I tells they are considered to be.

Intelligent people that know the Jewish factors, don't support all the hate language aimed at non-Jewish folks. No Intelligent Person would endorse they are "Beasts" or "Animals", yet those that unconditionally endose Jewish Talmud do fully allow themselves to be what the Talmud tells.

Lets take a look at what an Honest Element from the Jewish Community Explains of those that follow Babylon Talmudism:

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http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156

THE JEWISH TALMUD is "Holy Writ" for the Jews.

The Talmud supercedes the Old Testament in authority for the Jews. And the Talmud is the most racist, hate-mongering , blasphemous book the world has ever known.

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The "Satanic Verses" of the Talmud can be classified into 3 categories:

1) Jewish Supremacy.

2) Hatred Towards The “Goys” (Gentiles).

3) Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ, The Virgin Mary, & All Christians.

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SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S

HATRED TOWARDS THE GENTILES

* “The "goyim" are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)

* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)

* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

* “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)

* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)

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JUDAISM’S REIGN OF GLAMOUR IS COMING TO AN END!

I WAS RAISED AS A JEW. Christendom has fawned all over the Jews for the last 60 years. But all of this is now coming to an end.

Christians are waking up to the fact that Judaism and the Jews are haters of Jesus Christ, Christianity, and fervent Christians who preach the Gospel.

Do you wish to get a Talmudic Jew raving mad?

Simply Tell That Jew That If He Does Not Accept Jesus Christ As His Lord & Saviour

He Is Going To Suffer In Hell!

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Edited September 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

I see the fellow that likes to use the term "Goddamn" and name calling again on the Forum is off starting another "flame fest" due to speaking on intelligent issues like Judaism is a religion, not a race. Suggesting differently is misleading.

Jewish folks can spin around three times and declair they are not Jewish, but it isn't so simple with race factors. Seems like Rickover decided he was quiting Jewish religion and he didn't say a thing about quitting a race. Only way to quit a race is pass on.

Also, the facts are the HL Hunt types are Pro-NAZI types, and lots of the PERMINDEX types are Pro-Zionist types. It is simple historic facts, on the record for all JFK discussions and widely discussed on the Internet.

There is a large and growing group that realize that PERMINDEX and its UK alliance were right in the middle of the JFK hit and the Montreal UK Intelligence was in the middle of the Abe Lincoln hit and the MLK hit.

Isn't it interesting that the Liverpool, UK voice is raising a stink on fingers pointing at the UK and Canadian factors in the JFK hit. The EF should be proud he uses terms like "Goddamn"?

The British and Candians have invaded the US and Burned down the White House over their efforts to keep Colonial Controls over the US, and they've run lots of Assassinations out of Montreal.

Seems there is a new wave of flames and distractions stemming from the UK and their special pals that suckered the US into two wars to save the UK's rear.

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Edited September 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Michael Hogan]

Zooming past 6,200 views now....

In your writings, it is hard to miss your unusually high level of interest in and focus on Jewish people. The phrasing of your response to my question tells me all I need to know.

.....Every person gets an individual observation.

You are certainly free to unconditionally support that you are a "Goy"---and I will respect that you are a "Beast" due to be exploited, as you unconditionally support that being your description via this Talmud religion law.

I pay attention when a religion gives and teaches that it is OK to kill people, steal from them, lie, and belittle them. That kill law applies to Bloomfield and Rubenstein, who did it easily. If you don't pay attention to like problems, then that tells me a lot about you, your inabilty to sense discrimination, and the Talmud might be right for you and your vapidity.

I'd see you as unfit to be termed an American, as your loyalty isn't toward the Founding Father's Constitutional Protection. Your trying to put a corrupted religion's values before country is the root of how Royalists claim the rights to lord over people, drag them into wars, and treat them like dumb sheep.

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Ref:

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156

The "goyim" are not humans. They are beasts. (Baba Mezia 114b)

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So, you selected and fully supported yourself to be a "non-human beast", a lowly animal in Talmudic terms, by your phasing of your response. IMHO

Bye-bye, drop your vapid distraction nonsense somewhere else.

Disgusting.

In June of this year Phelps' posting privileges were suspended for three days for "continuous baiting of other members." The moderators had received "many complaints" about his behavior.

The above reply to Stephen Roy is abhorrent by any standards.

I agree, Michael. It's hard associating myself with a forum that allows one of its member the opportunity to continue writing this garbage. You'd hardly invite your friends onto here to see what "research" the forum is presenting if this is what they'd come across, would you?

I'm embarrassed if I'm honest with you...

I thought this was a JFK assassination forum? Do the moderators really class this as JFK research because he throws a few known names and organisations in between his racist bile and angry nonsense? Surely there are more appropriate websites for Phelps to go and hawk his wares?

[Jim Phelps]

I see you two are intent on more disruption for speaking about the UK factors on the JFK hit. All you two do is make the EF look real bad, using language like "Goddamn" and much worse flames. All the standard games with someone casting out religions don't have problems and others knowing they do and failing to fall into their simple minded lock-step.

Again, Got all the standard games of trying to make a religion belief into a race. False, misleading comments to disrupt a presentation. One can tell the UK types don't like reading their UK Intelligence and the US doesn't have good trust, and their Zionist good pals are well known to US Intelligence as being a huge problem with Espeonage activity.

Go make your nonsense statements somewhere else, cut out the flame war, disruption, name calling, etc..

Edited September 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

Its called the UK types are trying to goad the US people into the loss of their freedoms with untruthful statements on religion and Royalistic power games closely akin to this religion theme.

Everyone knows the entire concept of the King and Queen of the UK stems from the concepts of those kin to King David and the so called "Royal Linage". The US got tired to the UK's exploitation via Colonization and told these King and Queen Royal concepts driven by these Talmudic religion law issues to leave the Colonies. Now the game is deceive the Americans into approving of the Talmudic concepts by approving of the Judaic Law, and the Intelligent folks continue to want no part of that King and Queen concept approval hiding behind the Jewish religion. This is a large part of why the UK and Zionism are joined at the hip like Siamese Twins. Everyone has the score on the City of London's Incorperation and world concepts and its intentions to colonize the world. Lots of people are tired of these control games and using religion to attempt to trick everyone into going for Royalism games again.

Religions cause lots of problems and anyone trying to goad anyone into unconditional acceptance of the Talmudic beliefs is doing anyone a great disservice, as the religion law there tells that only those of Jewish orientation are human and close to God, all others are animals and to be exploited for their gain. It also proposes they are the only persons fit to lead the world and sets up the NWO concepts centered around Israel and Royalistic / oligarchic world domination concepts. Such concepts are not benevolent toward the world's masses seeking Freedom. Also, such unconditional support for these religion concepts run counter to the US Constitution and "We The People" Freedoms, and unconditional support of such values can technically destroy the US or any country that buys into such a system of religion. Seemingly with their comments and lacking information, the UK types, or others, that support unconditionally these concepts of religion would like to see the US destroyed, which is apparently why they like to keep trying these games. And, Try to keep the knowledge on PERMINDEX and Bloomfield suppressed. These games and such goading don't work on an informed population that knows these games. The UK Royalists and the Zionists share this common theme, wanting the world to become Colonized via these NWO type Corperate Power structure, "the creation of a “world company” as a replacement for the nation-state".

IMHO

Edited September 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Stephen Roy]

In the first place, Mr. Phelps, I have no desire to "distract" from your writings on Permindex or anything else. Frankly, I have trouble understanding what you're on about, and I suspect others likewise find your writings hard to follow.

All I did was note that you seem to be obsessed with writing your theories about Jews. I find it offensive, and in some countries like Canada, it would be actionable as hate speech.

[Jim Phelps]

If you don't understand the concepts, then you likely don't need to be here. I do think your comment was fully intended to become disruptive, and that you do understand enough of the Royalist UK connections to the Talmud religion to want to try to dupe the America people into underwriting all the bad concepts in the Jewish religion. Else, like most everyone with common sense on religions, they'd express reservations toward agreeing with the Talmud's hate for others.

That you appear to not recognize the Talmud's hate speech tells most you have a bias. So, where does this bias stem from?

If there are lots of Jewish factors in the JFK assassination, it is a factor in the discussions. The history of Europe is loaded with Jewish History, some good, some not so good. The Feudal system of Europe only allowed the Jewish Folks to be educated and learn to read and write. So, tell us why you'd like to not have that history told?

After all, isn't the whole UK concept based upon this same system of the Line of David kinship King and Queen supported by their Talmudist religion supporters. That is also part of history of Europe. Does history offend you too? Is too much truth and association offensive for you?

The US well knows about Canada's kinship to the UK and how much they are controlled by Talmudic religion concepts. The UK King and Queen own all the minerals in Canada and all their money has the King and Queen pictured. Somehow I don't get the idea Canada is free of UK control.

After all the entire King and Queen right to rule concepts stem from the Talmudic issue of Royal Linage from King David's line. Most of the Jewish know exactly why that came to be from the Talmud. Is that offensive to tell?

We also know the exact wording that leads to this Royal concept and it is hate speech in every sense. It tells that only Talmud followers are close to God, fit to lead others, everyone else are Beasts to be used. It speaks to factors like only Jewish believers are people and all others are Beasts or Animals. These is a whole lot of extremely hate oriented speech toward non-Jewish types in there and others all over the Internet speak to these hate speech concepts. But you don't? That your readings don't see those highly offensive issues toward the masses, tells us a lot about your "Council Against Discrimination". You appear to have a bias, an obvious bias. A Bias that the rest of the Internet doesn't seem to have in talking about all the Jewish issues.

I see that you claim to be on a "Council Against Discrimination", but your very actions of omission of these hate speech issues in the Talmud say that you appear more for discrimination and going against the very factors for which the American Colonists took up the Revolution and dumped the Royalist King and Queen of England, and wanted the US Govt. to be separate of religion.

Since you appear to be hear to speak out of both sides of your mouth on discrimination, trying to take up for the religion language that promotes Royal King and Queen methods, you can't be for the American system. Support of the Talmudic beliefs is the system of Royalist control and not Constitutional support.

It is my observation of you that you can't seem to see the hate speech in religion and are here to support concepts that go against America's Constitutiuon that dumped the Royalist games, gave everyone equal rights, and wanted sepatation of church and state to avoid these evil concepts from religion.

Since you appear to support all the Talmudic issues, you do appear to be content with calling non-Jewish people as Beasts and Animals, unfit for anything, and so on.

I'd say such support is un-American. IMHO

I don't think you'll find much support for going against America's Constitution, except for a few of the UK types that seem to promote the King and Queen ideals.

I don't find you to be on the level with your concepts of descrimination, nor this book focused on the bit part that Dave Ferrie had on the JFK assassination. This forum gets all kinds of authors trying to promote themselves and stirring up things and you appear to fit the mold.

Since I seem to get the idea that you are not here to contribute in a positive fashion, and you claim you can't grasp the issues, then perhaps there are other areas of the EF that fit your bias better.

It is very common for the disruption intending types to do exactly what you did, and it obviously was disruptive toward telling the PERMINDEX, Prince Bernhard, Bloomfield and other issues.

Since you say you don't grasp the issues in this thread, perhaps I question why are you here. Spend your time reading to catch up so you might understand the history of relgions, the European history, and so on. I don't get the idea that your quips are of value here, as they appear due to poor understanding of the history involved.

Edited October 1, 2011 by Jim Phelps