Thomas Graves Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Tommy, do you have the link for the DVD you mention? I've tried finding it in the original post but can't find the link. (Must be getting old) No problem, Ray. Post #1, this thread: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19115 -- Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Disregard Cinque's words here, but please note the just-visible "dot" (hair?, mole? scar?) at the left edge of Lovelady's eyebrow in the "1957" photo. I'm talking about his left eyebrow on "our" right. -- Tommy We can see the same "dot" in both of these images: -- Tommy So now all we've got to do is figure out what Shelley did after he walked over to the "island" about 20 seconds after the assassination, and what Lovelady did after he ran down Elm Street Extension to the the railway yard / parking lot (if he made it that far). Bumped for Sandy Larsen to reconsider and to actually think about. -- Tommy Being proactive by nature, I anticipate that Larsen or Prudhomme will counter by saying, "But wait! Lovelady doesn't have that "dot" (hair? mole? scar?) at the end of his left eyebrow in the FBI photo in which he's wearing the vertically-striped shirt!" And I will reply by saying, "Take some deep breaths, boys. I noticed that. And it doesn't unduly perplex me, but rather, it leads me to the inexorable conclusion that Billy Nolan Lovelady was very devious, indeed, and that he was either really, really paranoid, or perhaps a strange combination of stupid (regarding the vertically-striped shirt) and self-conscious (regarding that tiny but ugly, ugly "dot"), or, perish the thought, up to his neck in the assassination of JFK." [dramatic pause] "I mean, I mean, I mean, why else would he intentionally wear the wrong shirt (diametrically different, in fact -- hmmm) for the FBI, and use a little of his wife's eyebrow pencil (or whatever it's called) to conceal his distinctive "dot" in the FBI photos, if not to distance himself as far as possible from Oswald (aka "Prayerman") to whom he can, perhaps, be glimpsed "relating," near the beginning of the Robert Hughes film, hmmm?" Why, indeed? -- Tommy Edited October 27, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Tommy, do you have the link for the DVD you mention? I've tried finding it in the original post but can't find the link. (Must be getting old) No problem, Ray. Post #1, this thread: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19115 -- Tommy Thanks, Tommy. (You've just confirmed what I was worried about.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Disregard Cinque's words here, but please note the tiny, just-visible "dot" (hair?, mole? scar?) at the left edge of Lovelady's eyebrow in the "1957" photo. I'm talking about his left eyebrow, on "our" right, in the left photo. -- Tommy We can see the same "dot" in both of these images: -- Tommy So now all we've got to do is figure out what Shelley did after he walked over to the "island" about 20 seconds after the assassination, and what Lovelady did after he ran down Elm Street Extension to the the railway yard / parking lot (if he made it that far). Bumped for Sandy Larsen to reconsider and to actually think about. -- Tommy Being proactive by nature, I anticipate that Larsen or Prudhomme will counter by saying, "But wait! Lovelady doesn't have that "dot" (hair? mole? scar?) at the end of his left eyebrow in the FBI photo in which he's wearing the vertically-striped shirt!" And I will reply by saying, "Take some deep breaths, boys. I noticed that. And it doesn't unduly perplex me, but rather, it leads me to the inexorable conclusion that Billy Nolan Lovelady was very devious, indeed, and that he was either really, really paranoid, or perhaps a strange combination of stupid (regarding the vertically-striped shirt) and self-conscious (regarding that tiny but ugly, ugly "dot"), or, perish the thought, up to his neck in the assassination of JFK." [dramatic pause] "I mean, I mean, I mean, why else would he intentionally wear the wrong shirt (diametrically different, in fact -- hmmm) for the FBI, and use a little of his wife's eyebrow pencil (or whatever it's called) to conceal his distinctive "dot" in the FBI photos, if not to distance himself as far as possible from Oswald (aka "Prayerman") to whom he can, perhaps, be glimpsed "relating with," near the beginning of the Robert Hughes film, hmmm?" Why, indeed? -- Tommy Bumped of course Edited October 27, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Why do you ask? -- Sandy Larsen Dear Sandy, Oh! Never mind. I was afraid Cinque had convinced you that the "Mystery Still With The Dwarf Man Sitting In A Chair" was from some bad-guys' production which wasn't shot at two-minutes-past-two on 11/22/63. but "sometime in the 1970's," instead. LOL My bad. -- Tommy My point to Robert was that the still he was asking about isn't to be found in the video posted in this thread. It is found in an alleged prequel to that video. It would be nice if someone would post the whole video. Dear Sandy, If you were to take the time to read the now-locked JFK Assassination Debate thread I provided the link to you for, you would realize that "the whole enchilada," from elevator to interrogation room, is on a DVD which can be purchased on Amazon, or at least could have been done when the pertinent post was posted on that thread a couple of years ago. That's the only way to view the whole darn thing, AFAIK. -- Tommy Are you sure it has the whole video? I glanced through the thread but didn't notice that the whole video was on the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Dear Sandy, It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that this un-cropped frame (look familiar?) ..... ..... is from about four seconds before Chris Davidson's gif begins. The progress of the "parade" to the interrogation room on the right, and Oswald's being practically jerked from the far left to right. are the the keys to figuring it out. (In the "still," above, the back of Oswald's head is visible on the far left of the frame.) Also note how Lovelady, at the very very very very split-second beginning of the gif, is just finishing turning his head from left to right. And then, of course (to make my explaining mission as difficult as possible), he pauses, and ... turns it a little more! Yes, thank you Tommy. I do know that the still showing Lovelady's face is allegedly from the same film, a few seconds preceding what we see in the video posted in this thread. I would like to see the whole video. Not that it really matters... even Ralph Cinque says that the whole video is available. As I said, my point was just to inform Robert that he wouldn't see that still in the video posted here. Here's a slo-mo version of the alleged prequel: Edited October 27, 2016 by Sandy Larsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomas Graves Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Dear Sandy, It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that this un-cropped frame (look familiar?) ..... ..... is from about four seconds before Chris Davidson's gif begins. The progress of the "parade" to the interrogation room on the right, and Oswald's being practically jerked from the far left to right. are the the keys to figuring it out. (In the "still," above, the back of Oswald's head is visible on the far left of the frame.) Also note how Lovelady, at the very very very very split-second beginning of the gif, is just finishing turning his head from left to right. And then, of course (to make my explaining mission as difficult as possible), he pauses, and ... turns it a little more! Yes, thank you Tommy. I do know that the still showing Lovelady's face is allegedly from the same film, a few seconds preceding what we see in the video posted in this thread. I would like to see the whole video. Not that it really matters... even Ralph Cinque says that the whole video is available. As I said, my point was just to inform Robert that he wouldn't see that still in the video posted here. Here's a slo-mo version of the alleged prequel: Dear Sandy. Why do you keep saying "alleged" prequel? Do you think it, or the whole thing, was faked? -- Tommy Edited October 27, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Hey! I can see the pocket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Dear Sandy, It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that this un-cropped frame (look familiar?) ..... ..... is from about four seconds before Chris Davidson's gif begins. The progress of the "parade" to the interrogation room on the right, and Oswald's being practically jerked from the far left to right. are the the keys to figuring it out. (In the "still," above, the back of Oswald's head is visible on the far left of the frame.) Also note how Lovelady, at the very very very very split-second beginning of the gif, is just finishing turning his head from left to right. And then, of course (to make my explaining mission as difficult as possible), he pauses, and ... turns it a little more! Yes, thank you Tommy. I do know that the still showing Lovelady's face is allegedly from the same film, a few seconds preceding what we see in the video posted in this thread. I would like to see the whole video. Not that it really matters... even Ralph Cinque says that the whole video is available. As I said, my point was just to inform Robert that he wouldn't see that still in the video posted here. Here's a slo-mo version of the alleged prequel: Dear Sandy. Why do you keep saying "alleged" prequel? Do you think it, or the whole thing, was faked? -- Tommy Tommy, Something fishy is going on with Lovelady and that plaid shirt. Until that is cleared up I'm considering it all alleged. Including whether or not the prequel (which surfaced later) was originally part of the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Dear Sandy, It's pretty obvious (to me at least) that this un-cropped frame (look familiar?) ..... ..... is from about four seconds before Chris Davidson's gif begins. The progress of the "parade" to the interrogation room on the right, and Oswald's being practically jerked from the far left to right. are the the keys to figuring it out. (In the "still," above, the back of Oswald's head is visible on the far left of the frame.) Also note how Lovelady, at the very very very very split-second beginning of the gif, is just finishing turning his head from left to right. And then, of course (to make my explaining mission as difficult as possible), he pauses, and ... turns it a little more! Yes, thank you Tommy. I do know that the still showing Lovelady's face is allegedly from the same film, a few seconds preceding what we see in the video posted in this thread. I would like to see the whole video. Not that it really matters... even Ralph Cinque says that the whole video is available. As I said, my point was just to inform Robert that he wouldn't see that still in the video posted here. Here's a slo-mo version of the alleged prequel: Dear Sandy. Why do you keep saying "alleged" prequel? Do you think it, or the whole thing, was faked? -- Tommy Tommy, Something fishy is going on with Lovelady and that plaid shirt. Until that is cleared up I'm considering it all alleged. Including whether or not the prequel (which surfaced later) was originally part of the sequel. Good idea, Sandy. Thanks for letting me know what you're very skeptical about. -- Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Disregard Cinque's words here, but please note the tiny, just-visible "dot" (hair?, mole? scar?) at the left edge of Lovelady's eyebrow in the "1957" photo. I'm talking about his left eyebrow, on "our" right, in the left photo. -- Tommy We can see the same "dot" in both of these images: -- Tommy So now all we've got to do is figure out what Shelley did after he walked over to the "island" about 20 seconds after the assassination, and what Lovelady did after he ran down Elm Street Extension to the the railway yard / parking lot (if he made it that far). Bumped for Sandy Larsen to reconsider and to actually think about. -- Tommy Being proactive by nature, I anticipate that Larsen or Prudhomme will counter by saying, "But wait! Lovelady doesn't have that "dot" (hair? mole? scar?) at the end of his left eyebrow in the FBI photo in which he's wearing the vertically-striped shirt!" And I will reply by saying, "Take some deep breaths, boys. I noticed that. And it doesn't unduly perplex me, but rather, it leads me to the inexorable conclusion that Billy Nolan Lovelady was very devious, indeed, and that he was either really, really paranoid, or perhaps a strange combination of stupid (regarding the vertically-striped shirt) and self-conscious (regarding that tiny but ugly, ugly "dot"), or, perish the thought, up to his neck in the assassination of JFK." [dramatic pause] "I mean, I mean, I mean, why else would he intentionally wear the wrong shirt (diametrically different, in fact -- hmmm) for the FBI, and use a little of his wife's eyebrow pencil (or whatever it's called) to conceal his distinctive "dot" in the FBI photos, if not to distance himself as far as possible from Oswald (aka "Prayerman") to whom he can, perhaps, be glimpsed "relating with," near the beginning of the Robert Hughes film, hmmm?" Why, indeed? -- Tommy [...] bumped Edited October 28, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 why bump a thread that is stuck........................? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Prudhomme Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 why bump a thread that is stuck........................? That's just what he does. It's an OCD thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) why bump a thread that is stuck........................? That's just what he does. It's an OCD thing. Barto, To un-stick it? Maybe I should only bump your posts in the future, seein' as how so few people seem to respond to them. (Great posts, by the way. I really do mean it.) -- Tommy PS Uh-oh, it's 11:04 AM and I see that "Ballistics Bob" is lurking on this thread. What, if anything, of significance will he post? ..... Didn't think so. Well, at least he's not embarrassing himself. LOL Edited October 28, 2016 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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