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Dino Brugioni was the Duty Officer at NPIC on the weekend following the Kennedy Assassination. He was notified by NPIC Director Arthur C. Lundahl, (who had been notified by CIA Director John McCone), that the Secret Service would be bringing in a film, requiring NPIC assistance. ..........
The agents viewed the film 4-5 times with a stop watch involved to gain appreciation for the interval between shots. After viewing the film several times, the Agents requested that 12-15 specific frames be enlarged and blown-up using a precision high quality enlarger, and then selected prints to be mounted on briefing boards.......They did take the Zapruder Film, and a list of names of All involved in the Briefing Board process...... Horne believes the Brugioni and McMahon/Hunter interviews reveal a "compartmentalized operation" in which Brugioni made Briefing Boards using the Original Zapruder Film on Sat night, and McMahon made Briefing Boards the next night/Sunday, using an altered Zapruder Film which had been constructed at the Top Secret "Hawkeyeworks" facility. After viewing the Brugioni Briefing Boards which revealed wounds inflicted from shots NOT fired from behind, it was immediatley obvious that the Zapruder Film needed to be altered, and those Briefing Boards prepared by Brugioni disposed of. Hence, the Zapruder Film was immediately sent to the Hi Tech, Top Secret "Hawkeyeworks" facility immediately, and the Sunday/McMahon Briefing Board Event scheduled at NPIC. In 2009 Dino Brugioni confirmed that in 1963 Kodak had a State Of The Art Lab in Rochester. It was used by the CIA for various classified purposes, and that he visited that facility More than once, and even Prior to the assassination. During the Janney interviews in 2009, Brugioni stated that in regard to the technical possibilities at "hawkeyeworks", "They could do ANYTHING".

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Mannlicher-Carcano could only fire with aim sighting so fast and thus the need for (GAAL) ," ... a stop watch involved to gain appreciation for the interval between shots.". Dino Brugioni also said that the Secret Service was vitally interested in timing how many seconds occurred between various frames, and that Ralph Pearse informed them, to their surprise and dismay, that this would be a useless procedure because the Bell and Howell movie camera (that they told him had taken the movie) was a spring-wound camera, with a constantly varying operating speed, and that while he could certainly time the number of seconds between various frames if they so desired, that in his view it was an unscientific and useless procedure which would provide bad data, and lead to false conclusions, or words to that effect. Nevertheless, at the request of the two Secret Service agents, Ralph Pearse dutifully used a stopwatch to time the number of seconds between various frames of interest to their Secret Service customers.
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Yes it seems the Secret Service had foreknowledge of the problems (multiple shooters) to be revealed in the Zapruder film.(GAAL)

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a] saw the crowds, he went up the mountain and after he sat down, his disciples approached him. 2 And opening his mouth he began to teach them, saying,

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
because theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are the ones who mourn,
because they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
because they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are the ones who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
because they will be satisfied.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
because they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
because they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
because they will be called sons of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
because theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are you
when they insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil things against you, lying on account of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets before you.

The Sermon on the Mount: Salt and Light

13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if salt becomes tasteless, by what will it be made salty? It is good for nothing any longer except to be thrown outside and[c] trampled under foot by people. 14 You are the light of the world. A city located on top of a hill cannot be hidden, 15 nor do they light a lamp and place it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. 16 In the same way let your light shine before people, so that they can see your good works and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

The Sermon on the Mount: The Law and the Prophets Fulfilled

17 “Do not think that I have come to destroy the law or the prophets. I have not come to destroy them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one tiny letter or one stroke of a letter will pass away from the law until all takes place. 19 Therefore whoever abolishes one of the least of these commandments and teaches people to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever keeps them and teaches them, this person will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you that unless your righteousness greatly surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The Sermon on the Mount: Anger Toward Others

21 “You have heard that it was said to the people of old,[d] ‘Do not commit murder,’[e] and ‘whoever commits murder will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry at his brother will be subject to judgment, and whoever says to his brother, ‘Stupid fool!’[f] will be subject to the council, and whoever says, ‘Obstinate fool!’[g] will be subject to fiery hell. 23 Therefore if you present your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar and first go be reconciled to your brother, and then come and[h] present your gift. 25 Settle the case quickly with your accuser while you are with him on the way, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Truly I say to you, you will never come out of there until you have paid back the last penny!

The Sermon on the Mount: Adultery and Lust

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’[j]28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 And if your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members be destroyed than your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your limbs be destroyed than your whole body go into hell.

The Sermon on the Mount: Divorce

31 “And it was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[k]32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for a matter of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

The Sermon on the Mount: Taking Oaths

33 “Again you have heard that it was said to the people of old,[l] ‘Do not swear falsely,[m] but fulfill your oaths to the Lord.’[n]34 But I say to you, do not swear at all, either by heaven, because it is the throne of God, 35 or by the earth, because it is the footstool of his feet, or by Jerusalem, because it is the city of the great king. 36 And do not swear by your head, because you are not able to make one hair white or black. 37 But let your statement be ‘Yes, yes; no, no,’ and anything beyond these is from the evil one.[o]

The Sermon on the Mount: Retaliation

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’[p]39 But I say to you, do not resist the evildoer, but whoever strikes you on the right cheek,[q] turn the other to him also. 40 And the one who wants to go to court with you and take your tunic, let him have[r] your outer garment also. 41 And whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

The Sermon on the Mount: Love for Enemies

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’[t] and ‘Hate your enemy.’44 But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 in order that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven, because he causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not the tax collectors also do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing that is remarkable? Do not the Gentiles also do the same? 48 Therefore you be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.

The Sermon on the Mount: Charitable Giving

6 “And take care not to practice your righteousness before people to be seen by them; otherwise[a] you have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. 2 Therefore whenever you practice charitable giving, do not sound a trumpet in front of you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, in order that they may be praised by people. Truly I say to you, they have received their reward in full! 3 But you, when you practice charitable giving, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 in order that your charitable giving may be in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

The Sermon on the Mount: How to Pray

5 And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, because they love to stand and[c] pray in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, in order that they may be seen by people. Truly I say to you, they have received their reward in full! 6 But whenever you pray, enter into your inner room and shut your door and[d] pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

7 “But when you[e] pray, do not babble repetitiously like the pagans, for they think that because of their many words they will be heard. 8 Therefore do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need[f] before you ask him. 9 Therefore you pray in this way:

“Our Father who is in heaven,
may your name be treated as holy.
10 May your kingdom come,
may your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread,
12 and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And do not bring us into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.[g]

14 For if you forgive people their sins, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive people, neither will your Father forgive your sins.

The Sermon on the Mount: How to Fast

16 “Whenever you fast, do not be sullen like the hypocrites, for they make their faces unrecognizable in order that they may be seen fasting by people. Truly I say to you, they have received their reward in full! 17 But when[h] you are fasting, put olive oil on your head and wash your face 18 so that you will not be seen by people as fasting, but to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

The Sermon on the Mount: Treasure in Heaven

19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and consuming insect[j] destroy and where thieves break in and steal, 20 but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor consuming insect[k] destroy and where thieves do not break in or steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. Therefore if your eye is sincere, your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eye is evil, your whole body will be dark. Therefore if the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!

24 “No one is able to serve two masters. For either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You are not able to serve God and money.[l]

The Sermon on the Mount: Anxiety

25 “For this reason I say to you, do not be anxious for your life, what you will eat,[m] and not for your body, what you will wear. Is your life not more than food and your body more than clothing? 26 Consider the birds of the sky, that they do not sow or reap or gather produce into barns, and your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth more than they are? 27 And who among you, by[n] being anxious, is able to add one hour[o] to his life span? 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Observe the lilies of the field, how they grow: they do not toil or spin, 29 but I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory was dressed like one of these. 30 But if God dresses the grass of the field in this way, although it[p] is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not do so much more for you, you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?,’ 32 for the pagans seek after all these things. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first his kingdom and righteousness,[q] and all these things will be added to you. 34 Therefore do not be anxious for tomorrow, because tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.[r]

The Sermon on the Mount: On Judging Others

7 “Do not judge, so that you will not be judged. 2 For by what judgment you judge, you will be judged, and by what measure you measure out, it will be measured out to you. 3 And why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the beam of wood in your own eye? 4 Or how will you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to remove the speck from your eye,’ and behold, the beam of wood is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the beam of wood from your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye!

6 “Do not give what is holy to dogs, or throw your pearls in front of pigs, lest they trample them with their feet, and turn around and[a] tear you to pieces.

The Sermon on the Mount: Ask, Seek, Knock

7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened for you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you, if his son will ask him for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or also if he will ask for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 Therefore if you, although you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him? 12 Therefore in all things, whatever you want that people should do to you, thus also you do to them. For this is the law and the prophets.

The Sermon on the Mount: The Narrow Gate

13 “Enter through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it, 14 because narrow[c]is the gate and constricted is the road that leads to life, and there are few who find it!

The Sermon on the Mount: Recognizing False Prophets

15 “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inside are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits: they do not gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles, do they?[d]17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree is not able to produce bad fruit, nor a bad tree to produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 As a result, you will recognize them by their fruits.

The Sermon on the Mount: False Followers

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many miracles in your name?’ 23 And then I will say to them plainly,[e] ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness!’

The Sermon on the Mount: Two Houses and Two Foundations

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain came down and the rivers came and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it did not collapse, because its foundation was laid on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain came down and the rivers came and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it collapsed, and its fall was great.”

The Sermon on the Mount: Response

28 And it happened when Jesus finished these words the crowds were amazed at his teaching, 29 because he was teaching them like one who had authority, and not like their scribes.




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Farewell Forum (last post)
Dino Brugioni was the Duty Officer at NPIC on the weekend following the Kennedy Assassination. He was notified by NPIC Director Arthur C. Lundahl, (who had been notified by CIA Director John McCone), that the Secret Service would be bringing in a film, requiring NPIC assistance. ..........
The agents viewed the film 4-5 times with a stop watch involved to gain appreciation for the interval between shots. After viewing the film several times, the Agents requested that 12-15 specific frames be enlarged and blown-up using a precision high quality enlarger, and then selected prints to be mounted on briefing boards.......They did take the Zapruder Film, and a list of names of All involved in the Briefing Board process...... Horne believes the Brugioni and McMahon/Hunter interviews reveal a "compartmentalized operation" in which Brugioni made Briefing Boards using the Original Zapruder Film on Sat night, and McMahon made Briefing Boards the next night/Sunday, using an altered Zapruder Film which had been constructed at the Top Secret "Hawkeyeworks" facility. After viewing the Brugioni Briefing Boards which revealed wounds inflicted from shots NOT fired from behind, it was immediatley obvious that the Zapruder Film needed to be altered, and those Briefing Boards prepared by Brugioni disposed of. Hence, the Zapruder Film was immediately sent to the Hi Tech, Top Secret "Hawkeyeworks" facility immediately, and the Sunday/McMahon Briefing Board Event scheduled at NPIC. In 2009 Dino Brugioni confirmed that in 1963 Kodak had a State Of The Art Lab in Rochester. It was used by the CIA for various classified purposes, and that he visited that facility More than once, and even Prior to the assassination. During the Janney interviews in 2009, Brugioni stated that in regard to the technical possibilities at "hawkeyeworks", "They could do ANYTHING".

see

and
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Mannlicher-Carcano could only fire with aim sighting so fast and thus the need for (GAAL) ," ... a stop watch involved to gain appreciation for the interval between shots.". Dino Brugioni also said that the Secret Service was vitally interested in timing how many seconds occurred between various frames, and that Ralph Pearse informed them, to their surprise and dismay, that this would be a useless procedure because the Bell and Howell movie camera (that they told him had taken the movie) was a spring-wound camera, with a constantly varying operating speed, and that while he could certainly time the number of seconds between various frames if they so desired, that in his view it was an unscientific and useless procedure which would provide bad data, and lead to false conclusions, or words to that effect. Nevertheless, at the request of the two Secret Service agents, Ralph Pearse dutifully used a stopwatch to time the number of seconds between various frames of interest to their Secret Service customers.
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Yes it seems the Secret Service had foreknowledge of the problems (multiple shooters) to be revealed in the Zapruder film.(GAAL)

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David Josephs

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=15190&p=249883

Posted 03 April 2012 - 12:42 AM

Agree 100% David... If anything... once the turn onto Elm was completed that limo should have done nothing but accelerate its way to the freeway..

There were no more crowds and nothing but danger in the bowl of DP... and for these trained men not to have realized this weeks in advance is absurd to even consider.

When we look at Nix/Muchmoore Hill does not come close to the limo until well after z313...

Try jumping off a moving vehicle at 5-7 mph and hit the ground running and catch another moving vehicle in less than 1 second...

Greer is simply not doing his job here... and his testimony (ala analysis from Palmara) is wrought with CYA and plain out lying.

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Karl... how is driving the POTUS thru DP at less than 10mph "nothing sinister"... once he completes the TRULY TURN (wide and almost on the curb that is not filmed anywhere) he has clear sailing..

there can be no explanation for that speed at that time given what we see the limo do after the shots... it is up to speed and roaring away by the time it gets to the overpass...

a real SS escort would have had him accellerating all the way down Elm and onto Stemmons...

Instead, we have him staring at JFK a SECOND time, up to the point of the headshot.... this is an "innocent" reaction to sounds like gunshot and the man in obvious distress fro 6-10 seconds ago?

While I would like to offer the benefit of the doubt... this sequence literally SCREAMS at you... WTF is he doing?

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Bye bye, Steven. I've really enjoyed pointing out some of your MISTAKES.

(LOL)

I wish you the best. Take care.

--Tommy :sun

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Why are you planning to stop posting here, Steve?

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Steve, I've always felt your presence here was a blessing, sincerely. So I echo the sentiment of others who've expressed their feelings along that line.

I have threatened to leave to the point that possibly, if I were black, I might have been confused with the last segment of James Brown's stage act....

{I love the Godfather of Soul, so I don't want any lip from anybody;)But seriously, hope you stay. An old Rolling Stone from 1967, I think it was a review

for June 6, 1967 release of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, by The Beatles; it had a sentence or title that said

"Rock is obsolescent, but then so are you."

Point being; even the most astute and cerebral researchers get ignored or dissed by somebody, not to imply that broaching that has anything to do with anyone except

myself.

What doesen't kill you makes you stronger, unless your a fly that just got sprayed with some variant of DDT, or Raid....You know what I mean.

Cheers & Best of everything No matter what!

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