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Discovery:

Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS
ZAPRUDER Film Documented 2nd Head Snap:
West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards
the
Grassy Knoll



by Donald Roberdeau
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Thanks, Don, for your take on Ms. Willis' movements. I noticed the movement myself but wrote it off as her looking back to the President after momentarily being distracted. The speed of her movement, however, argues otherwise. Good work.

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Thanks, Don, for your take on Ms. Willis' movements. I noticed the movement myself but wrote it off as her looking back to the President after momentarily being distracted. The speed of her movement, however, argues otherwise. Good work.

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....Good Day Pat.... Thanks Pat.... Indeed, the child-impulsive speed of her ZAPRUDER film documented headsnap westward towards the grassy knoll is very strong support because it is the fastest reactive, probably attracted, headsnap displayed by any non-limo witness seen in any attack film.

Visually imagine looking at someone and how fast would appear seeing their head rotate nearly two full complete times around their neck within only one second.

Also supportive is the timing of her headsnap --starting less than one second after a gunshot impulse present on the D.P.D. dictabelt (utilizing Dr. THOMAS's gunshots sequencing), and ROSEMARY herself telling the HSCA that when she was facing the GK she was attracted to watch a person drop quickly downwards behind a wall (or did she mean, or actually tell the HSCA "fence"?) out of her sight.

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"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack while still standing within Dealey Plaza ("Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition)

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Nice stuff Don, and very interesting.

I did a little looking at Rosemary also, because I had another idea concerning her movements and her location - other than addressing a reaction to sound.

Anyway - I don't mean to go into that, but what do you make Rosemary in Zapruder in earlier frames? I created an animated version, but cannot upload it. I will send it to John to see if he can add it.

Rosemary has no hood - suddenly a hood appears. Also, if you enhance the frames in which Rosemary appears to be looking in the direction of the camera, and use a negative view - all faces in the frame showing fleshtones turn blue - except Rosemary's face.

I have also been bothered by the location of Mrs. Willis, Phil and Linda. According to Linda and Phil, Linda and her sister run alongside and after the limo - Linda is opposite the Stemmons sign when the headshot occurs - as per her own testimony. Instead, we see a young girl, that may be Linda, standing with a woman at the edge of Elm, near Phil Willis. But Phil testifies that his wife was behind the concrete structure. And Linda doesn't move from this position? I can understand that Linda could be mixing the Thorton and Stemmons signs - but even that doesn't seem to correlate.

As opposed to an impossible headspin - perhaps there is more to the story on this little girl's movements and location?

- lee

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Good Day Lee.... There is a slight chance that some of my conspiracy friends are going to jeer me a bit (oh well) after my next statements (and some, less sharp, warrenatti-apologists will applaud, very temporarily that is, until those same warrenatti-apologists realize....hopefully-epiphany-like....that ROSEMARY's second head movement....her ultrafast Z-214 to 217 headsnap towards the grassy knoll, in fact, positively indicates that, at least, 4 shots were fired)....

....I honestly believe that, given, President KENNEDY's Z-film displayed, rightward, fast, 65-degree head snap (which, imho, he did reactively, and impulsively, possibly/probably derived instinctively from his WWII experience/training without his first thinking about it) from Zf-155 to 158 (which is a fast 414-degrees-per-second head rotational speed compared to ROSEMARY's ultrafast 610-d.p.s. from Zf-214 to 217) was in reaction to a loud, audible event which was probably a gun shot related event.... ((please see my statements-accompanying chart below))....

....combined with....

....CONNALLY's Z-164 to 170 fast headsnap rightward of 95 degrees (a 289-d.p.s. speed), starting only 0.5 second after the president's rightward head snap indicates CONNALLY sensed a loud audible event. Connally always said and testified that he first turned rightward after hearing the first audible muzzle blast (or mechanically-suppress-fired bullet bow shockwave) that he remembered hearing.... (there is *no way* based on several filmed examples I have seen of CONNALLY demonstrating his first rightward head snap and torso turn rightward that he could have performed the head snap/torso turn he demonstrated in the only 1 second he was hidden from ZAPRUDER by the "Stemmons" freeway sign from 204 to 221)

....combined with....

....the first blur/jiggle episode imparted to ZAPRUDER's camera and detected and documented to be at from Zf-157 to 161 in 2 of 2 blur/jiggle episodes studies that include the pre-170 frames....

....combined with....

....a gun shot impulse present circa 155 on the D.P.D. radio recorded dictabelt tape....

....combined with....

....some known, close, key witnesses along Elm Street and his/her keen, detailed observed timestamped actions and reactions of the limousine occupants and other motorcade members....

....IMHO, probably all indicate --in fact, I think I will even say-- most likely all support that there was a loud audible event, probably gun shot related, that occured no later than Zf-151 (allowing four Z-frames for President KENNEDY's neurological-stimulus-then-physical response to begin to display itself in his rightward head snap starting at 155).

Of course, the warrenatti canard itself "determined" in 1963-64 that the warrenatti-posnerian "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree" foliage/branches did not even start to obscur President KENNEDY from the warrenatti "smokers nook" until Zf-160-162.

....I also think that Mrs. KENNEDY's much more leisurely (relative to her husband and CONNALLY, but still rapid) 175-degree headturn rightward, starting at Zf-169 and ending, mostly, by Zf-195 (a 124-d.p.s. average rate) was also in reaction to that same circa-151 gunshot related loud event.

....I also think that non-gunshots-experienced ROSEMARY WILLIS reacted impulsively childlike to either the circa-151 gunshot related event, or, she impulsively reacted to an additional shot in between 151 and 210 (afterall, she does not even start to, noticeably, slow down her trotting until 185), and her reaction to that circa-151 shot is displayed in her more leisurely slight head turn rightward as she was trotting 133 to 190, and was also the reason she started to slow down her trotting around 185-195 to a feet-stopped location by Zf-210 about even with where the president had been located at Zf-151.... Of course, IMHO, her head facing direction at Z-214--facing the west half of the TSBD south face--in profile to ZAPRUDER----NOT facing the far east corner----makes the whole point of her pre-214 actions entirely moot.... the TSBD west half that ROSEMARY was facing at Zf-214 contained the same open west window on the sixth floor through which ARNOLD ROWLAND testified that he observed the second armed assassin ROWLAND testified to (within a minute after seeing the west sixth floor assassin ROWLAND also saw the man in the far east sixth floor window), and, from which nearly a straight trajectory line from the "Harper skull fragment" found location leads back through the President at 313, back to the same west window.

....I also keep thinking about a woman inside the TSBD walking on the fifth floor during the seconds of the shooting (cannot recall her name at the immediate moment), and despite her being only one floor down, AND, much, much closer to the, supposed, warrenatti "snipers lair," she stated that of the shots that she remembered hearing, while she was facing east in the hallway, those shots originated from behind her--in other words, "her" remembered shot(s) originated from the west side of the TSBD.

....but then again.... maybe the circa 151 first audible event WAS a firecracker, or an overheated "Harley Davidson" D.P.D. motorcycle backfire, exactly as a vast amount of witnesses have stated :)

Here is my graph displaying the head turns timestamped points and the individual facing directions (relative to 0-degrees being limo forward) as seen in the Z-film of President KENNEDY, CONNALLY, Mrs. KENNEDY, and NELLIE all inlaid together, relative to each other....

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"I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say 'no, I think it was further down the street.' "

-TSBD employee JERALDEAN "Carolyn" REID in her earliest 11-23-63 DPD affidavit (CE2003, 24H223) REID and CAMPBELL were standing together, almost directly due south of the warrenatti's, supposed, "snipers lair"

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Good Day Lee.... I meant to also add to my last reply.... Lee, with regard to your comment about not seeing ROSEMARY WILLIS's white coat head hood.... you may/must have been looking at, or thinking of, someone else when you wrote that, because, other than a very brief micro-second when she is still trotting at about 5 m.p.h. and ROSEMARY's head hood is obscurred starting at Zf-149 by the standing-ready-to-take-his-160-photo ROBERT CROFT (iow, when she trots behind CROFT starting at 149), her white coat head hood is clearly visible the entire time she is visible from Zf-133 until ZAPRUDER panned her image out of the sprocket area at 222/223.

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"I remarked to Mr. Campbell who was standing near by that I thought the shots had come from our building. But I heard someone else say 'no, I think it was further down the street.' "

-TSBD employee JERALDEAN "Carolyn" REID in her earliest 11-23-63 DPD affidavit (CE2003, 24H223) REID and CAMPBELL were standing together, almost directly due south of the warrenatti's, supposed, "snipers lair"

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Good Day All.... I have updated the original article with an additional photo and additional internet links.

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Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge--and more."

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Good Day All.... I have re-titled the ROSEMARY WILLIS headsnap discovery article to "Rosemary Willis Second Headsnap, West Towards the 'Grassy Knoll' "

Here is the link for everyone to a very clear animated crop of just ROSEMARY during the critical Z-frames she displays her headsnap towards the "grassy knoll"....

ROSEMARY WILLIS ULTRAFAST HEADSNAP WEST TOWARDS THE "grassy knoll" at Zf-214

and

http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSEMARY213_222.avi

....this clear crop plays 2.44 times slower than her actual documented headsnap speed. (the scan is of large bytes and takes a few minutes to load with a 56k modem)

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"To be courageous requires no exceptional qualifications. It is an opportunity that sooner or later is presented to us all."

----Senator JOHN F. KENNEDY, "Profiles in Courage" (1955)

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January 16, 2009.... Good Day.... Because AOL recently ceased its FTP services, I am updating the following discovery announcement until I secure a permanent home for providing it. The following is a quick copy, and therefore does not contain the internet links to the supporting investigations testimonies, documents, maps, animations, tests, recreations, and assassination photographs that are included for you within the original discovery article. All of these original discovery article links are currently available for you within the following file.... http://profile.imageshack.us/user/droberdeau , or, please feel free to email me, anytime.

Best Regards in Research,

Don

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Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree": Z-188, then, Z-203 to 206 (Updated 12-28-08)

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Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll (Updated 1-16-09)

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Dealey Plaza Professionally-surveyed Map Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise locations, Witnesses, Photographers, Evidence, Suspected bullet trajectories, Important information & Considerations (Updated 12-28-08)

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President Kennedy "Men of Courage" speech, and JFK Assassination Research, Maps, & Discoveries for Your Considerations (Updated 12-28-08)

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.... Good Day.... Updated the research discovery announcement of the ROSEMARY WILLIS ultrafast headsnap directly towards the grassy knoll to include the link for Dr. DONALD THOMAS' forthcoming book....

“Hear No Evil: Social Constructivism and the Forensic Evidence

in the Kennedy Assassination” 2009, 2010

Best Regards in Research,

Don

Don Roberdeau

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For your considerations....

Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap:

West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll

Visual Report: The First Impact: JFK While "Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree': Z-188, then, Z-203 to 206"

Homepage: President JOHN F. KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Research, & Discoveries Links

Dealey Plaza Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise kill zone locations,

Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspects & suspected bullet trajectories, & Important

information & Considerations

Visual File: JFK Assassination Research, Maps, & Discoveries for Your Considerations

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Good Day.... Updated the research discovery announcement + its referenced

links with respect for the ZAPRUDER film-documented ROSEMARY WILLIS ultrafast

headsnap directly towards the grassy knoll.


Best Regards in Research

+++Don



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For your key considerations + independent determinations....

Homepage: President KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Evidence, Witnesses, Photographers, Suspects, + Outstanding Researchers Discoveries + Key Considerations....
http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-men-of-courage-jfk-assassination_09.html


The Dealey Plaza Detailed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims Precise Locations + Reactions, Evidence, Witnesses Locations, Photographers, Suspected Bullet Trajectories, Important Information + Key Considerations, in One Convenient Resource....
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(updated map, + new information)


Visual Report: The First Bullet Impact Into President Kennedy: While JFK was Still Hidden Under the "magic-limbed-ricochet-tree"....
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Visual Report: Reality Versus C.A.D. : the Real World, versus, Garbage-in, Garbage-out.... http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5066/jsf.gif


Discovery: "Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS
Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and
Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll"....

http://droberdeau.blogspot.com/2011/01/discovery-close-jfk-assassination.html



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