John Dolva Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 All's good, Will. I don't feel on the spot. Your points are well taken, as are John G's. However one looks at it, it's been a peripheral matter. ''Why'' is a worthwhile question. Why a red herring such as this? Why disinformation? If it didn't happen, it didn't. I don't know, but sometimes out of speculative brainstorming, something of worth may come. It prompted a plethora of data from Bernice to dwell on, and IMO may have opened avenues to other peripheral matters, so, as I said, it's all good imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Will Emaus' post='180766' date='Jan 28 2010, 01:57 AM'Assuming no one ever reported witnessing an SS Agent shot in the procession, there would seem to be three possible scenarios: A. Honest fog of war reporting mistake B. Legit agent or other "good guy" killed by a conspirator and covered up C. Conspirator killed by either Law enforcement or other conspirator and covered up ------------------------------------ 5. Red herring 6. Disinformation JG C.1 - Conspirator w/fake SS credentials killed D. (Andrews) Clint Hill spread-eagle on limo mistaken for shot dead E. (Andrews) Original "A" plot called for an SS man shot for verisimilitude, story element went out in early reports. 5 & 6 also legit possibilities. Edited January 28, 2010 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dolva Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) ''the body of an "Army or Air Force Major" showed up for autopsy on the evening of the 22nd. The medical people at Bethesda told these authors that they were ordered NOT to log in the body of the Major,'' It's vague and likely readily debunked (the following)(but to squeeze as much as possible out of this real anomaly) "OK, perhaps one can say with near cetitude that after a traumatic, harrowing day, a uniformed body (with stripes?) showed up for autopsy (ie in the Autopsy Department!), for some reason they were ordered NOT to log in the body of the Major but they were allowed to know it was a Major. This doesn't make it a Major, in fact that discrepancy gives creedence to it NOT being a Major. (double encryption), possibly a more correct chronologically correct description of events were: The medical people at Bethesda were ordered NOT to log in the body of a Major, (Army or Airforce?, hey, who gives a XXXX, they all look the same to me, or do they?...) the body showing up for autopsy on the evening of the 22nd." Post edited by moderator due to language. Edited February 5, 2010 by Antti Hynonen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 If an assassin was confronted and killed, they couldn't very well say so and still maintain the lone-nut story. It might be accepted that the wounding or death of SS agent would be kept secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Anyroads,... this video is why awoke this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Walton Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Could it be because humans, being a fallible species, got it wrong, as in: Person #1 heard: Secret Person #2 heard: service Person #3 heard: agent Person #4 heard: killed Person #5 heard: pool Person #6 heard: of Person #7 heard: blood Reported: "Secret service agent killed [found in a] pool of blood. This, we cannot confirm." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I don't know what to make of it, but the guy in the video sounds believable to me. And that makes two locations for blood found, with no official account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Michael, That's about the best picture I've ever seen of Dealey Plaza. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Clark Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) On 2/6/2017 at 5:49 AM, Steve Thomas said: Michael, That's about the best picture I've ever seen of Dealey Plaza. Steve Thomas That just might be a Rambler down at the knoll, to-boot! **** A couple additional links. This one mentions a witnesses to a wounded SS agent Edited May 18, 2017 by Michael Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lifton Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 On 1/28/2010 at 0:33 PM, John Dolva said: ''the body of an "Army or Air Force Major" showed up for autopsy on the evening of the 22nd. The medical people at Bethesda told these authors that they were ordered NOT to log in the body of the Major,'' It's vague and likely readily debunked (the following)(but to squeeze as much as possible out of this real anomaly) "OK, perhaps one can say with near cetitude that after a traumatic, harrowing day, a uniformed body (with stripes?) showed up for autopsy (ie in the Autopsy Department!), for some reason they were ordered NOT to log in the body of the Major but they were allowed to know it was a Major. This doesn't make it a Major, in fact that discrepancy gives creedence to it NOT being a Major. (double encryption), possibly a more correct chronologically correct description of events were: The medical people at Bethesda were ordered NOT to log in the body of a Major, (Army or Airforce?, hey, who gives a XXXX, they all look the same to me, or do they?...) the body showing up for autopsy on the evening of the 22nd." Post edited by moderator due to language. John: (1) It was an Air Force "Colonel"; (2 ) It was just a story--there was never any body. This story was told to me in October 1980, by James Jenkins, when I interviewed him (on camera). The purpose of this (false) story was to "explain" the Dallas coffin, which was sitting in the ante-room at Bethesda. There is a wonderful moment, on amera, when I tell Jenkins that there was no "AF Colonel" and that that was simly a story to account for the Dallas Coffin. For reasons I will never understand, this story was changed and elaborated upon by Harrison Livingstone. By tbetime Livingstone got finished with his "modification," there really was a body in there, the lid was raised and this or that person saw it, etc. For any serious analysis, I would advice to simply stick with the story as originally related to me (n October 1980); and skip any elaboration developed by Livingtone. D DSL 2/6/17 - 4:05 a.m. PST Los Angels, California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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