Announcement today from Judyth Baker

[Pat Speer]

The whole thing is very strange, Doug. The only thing I can think of is that one of Judyth's other speakers asked that you be disinvited. Is your experience with Estes at odds with another LBJ-did-it theory being hyped and sold at the convention?

[Douglas Caddy]

Joan Mellen has asked me to post the following announcement in this topic, which I am pleased to do:

My book about the dark side of LBJ, which explores his relationships with Mac Wallace and Billie Sol Estes in as much

detail as I could uncover, is called "Faustian Bargains: Lyndon Johnson and Mac Wallace In The Robber Baron Culture of Texas." The official publication date is September 13th, but it's already listed on amazon.com Copies should be available before that date, however.

[Douglas Caddy]

The whole thing is very strange, Doug. The only thing I can think of is that one of Judyth's other speakers asked that you be disinvited. Is your experience with Estes at odds with another LBJ-did-it theory being hyped and sold at the convention?

Thanks, Pat, for your interest in this matter but I have no idea why I was disinvited. Maybe Judyth Baker will say something later on about it.

[Pamela Brown]

A month ago I was contacted by Judyth Baker and invited to be a speaker on her JFK Assassination Conference in Dallas in November on the topic of LBJ, Billie Sol Estes and Mac Wallace. This came as a surprise as I have never met Judyth Baker.

I accepted her invitation to participate.

Yesterday I received the email below from Judyth Baker. After reading it I realized I should have heeded the advice tendered by Pamela Brown and others in this thread. I offer my sole experience with Judyth Baker as a forewarning learning lesson to others may be contacted by her.

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Dear Doug:

Regretfully, we must withdraw our invitation to have you speak at

the JFK Assassination Conference 2016. A combination of factors

and our need to focus on a predetermined theme has made it unfeasible

to have you as a speaker. Please accept our regrets and our hope that you

will understand that this decision was unavoidable.

We trust that we have given you all the time you might need to adjust your

plans for November.

Sincerely,

Judyth Baker, president

JFK Conferences, LLC

cc: Belinda Dye, Sec'y-Treasurer

Cherish Truth.

I cannot imagine what is going on in the Judyth camp, Doug. You must be perceived as a threat to her parallel universe, either by her or someone in a position of influence over her.

I recall when I was involved with Judyth that periodically she would say something to the effect, "I was told that you could not be trusted." Of course, when that happened, I asked, "By whom?" but I never received an answer. I later came to think that this came from Jim Fetzer, who made a campaign out of attacking me, and seems to be Judyth's "Wizard of Oz" as well. I don't know if he is in any way connected to your experience, but were that the case, I would not be surprised.

Ironically, I think you are lucky to be treated badly early-on, as you will not be fooled by Judyth or any of her cohorts again. :-)

It has occurred to me that relating the end of my involvement with Judyth and her camp may be of help to those who are planning to be involved with Judyth and her upcoming conference. After seven years of treating Judyth with the utmost respect, when her authorized book "Me and Lee" was published, I reminded Judyth of our agreement, which was that I would keep an open mind about what she had to say until her (authorized, there was an earlier one that she balked at) book was published. When I did that I discovered that Judyth had 'forgotten' all about our agreement. She seemed shocked and amazed at my 'defection'. She then apparently went around to everyone else in her camp and slandered me to some extent, as she later emailed me with a statement to the effect of "who will believe you now!" This is Judyth. This is the reality.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Pamela Brown

[Dawn Meredith]

I shall be one of the speakers on a panel on Sunday that includes a discussion about Malcolm Wallace.

Who else will be on this panel? I'd sure like to see my dear friend Nathan Darby's name cleared.

What do you mean by "cleared"? I don't think anyone disputes that he was an actual fingerprint analyst, once upon a time. In fact, if it's any help, I recently came across his name in the Dallas FBI files received by Weisberg in the late 70's.

Pat: I have not been on this forum in sometime and am just seeing this. Joan Mellen is saying that he was not a Certified Print examiner when he gave his affidavit in 1998. Basically that he perjured himself which I know not to be true. To double check after she made this allegation I asked his son who verified that Nathan had kept up his certification. I hear her book is soon coming out. (No further comment from me on that front).

[Dawn Meredith]

FWIW: Judy posted someplace on facebook that she had invited me to to speak at a conference. That was certainly news to me. She just makes it up as she goes along. Right now she has one of my closest female researcher friends snowed. (We just spent an hour on the phone and 1/3 of that was devoted to JVB). I too was in her camp very long ago and I will not post my reasons why but when I began to question certain things she became very defensive. I cut ties long ago and consider her a very sad nutcase.

I will be most interested in what you are working on Doug. Especially as it pertains to our "friend" Mac Wallace. I call him "the man who died twice. "

I wonder too I Joan will include any of the information regarding the legal work I did for her in her book. It was an eye opener of sorts for me.

I have the Lyle Sardie video, a gift many years ago from Jay Harrison. He was one freaken piece of work.

[Dawn Meredith]

I was thinking about John Judge last night. And COPA. How did it come to this? Conferences brought to you by a woman almost no one believes. Downright surreal.

Edited August 5, 2016 by Dawn Meredith

[Paul Brancato]

Ms. Baker gets away with this because some reputable researchers swallow their pride for a buck. Ok I know that some need the money, but if you are in this game to ferret out the truth it would be wiser to find another way to earn a living. If you are a writer, write something else, or teach, or whatever. I think it's shameful - sorry to those of you well meaning people that have made this deal with this devil. You think that getting your word out is worth sacrificing your principles, but it's not. It's too important historically, and she is muddying the waters and serving as a disinfo specialist. I don't know if she is on a payroll or is just crazy or crooked.

Pamela, who surely knows this from the inside, will recall that Guns and Butter, a Pacifica show that was often interesting, had her on several times, and the producer was basically unresponsive when I pointed her in a more truthful direction than James Fetzer. Now when I happen upon that show I listen with a jaundiced ear, and often just change the channel. So basically, those that give Ms. Baker air time without doing any fact checking are ruining their own reputations. But of course the idiots abound out there, so there is no shortage of fodder. Trump is the perfect example of the effect of this dumbing down that has been going on for decades now.

[Dawn Meredith]

Then she has respected researchers like Linda Minor singing her praises on facebook. With all her "fans" then chiming in. When one person-Pete Johnson- dared be critical he was called a xxxxx. So this is the sad face of JFK assassination conferences now.

As for Fetzer he has gone off the rails totally, especially with his Paul is dead garbage. No one died at Sandy Hook and Paul McCartney is a fake who just happens to play, sing and write great stuff like the original, who died in a car crash in 1966. You just can't make this stuff up. Well actually Baker and the Fetz do just that.

[Paul Brancato]

Right on Dawn.

Anyone singing Baker's praises loses credibility - that's it in a nutshell for me.

I've read Linda Minor's stuff here in the past, but not for a long while. Why do you respect her as a researcher?

[Pamela Brown]

I was think about John Judge last night. And COPA. How did it come to this? Conferences brought to you by a woman almost no one believes. Downright surreal.

You're right, Dawn.

It seems to me that Judyth and Fetzer represent the CT lunatic fringe, and it is just as much a ploy as the WCR. The two extremes are intended to trick people. An analogy would be 1984 -- Big Brother and Goldstein. Whichever way a person goes, they end up on rabbit trails. Both are equally dangerous. In one sense, unfortunately, Judyth, or someone like her, was inevitable. :-0

[Pamela Brown]

Ms. Baker gets away with this because some reputable researchers swallow their pride for a buck. Ok I know that some need the money, but if you are in this game to ferret out the truth it would be wiser to find another way to earn a living. If you are a writer, write something else, or teach, or whatever. I think it's shameful - sorry to those of you well meaning people that have made this deal with this devil. You think that getting your word out is worth sacrificing your principles, but it's not. It's too important historically, and she is muddying the waters and serving as a disinfo specialist. I don't know if she is on a payroll or is just crazy or crooked.

Pamela, who surely knows this from the inside, will recall that Guns and Butter, a Pacifica show that was often interesting, had her on several times, and the producer was basically unresponsive when I pointed her in a more truthful direction than James Fetzer. Now when I happen upon that show I listen with a jaundiced ear, and often just change the channel. So basically, those that give Ms. Baker air time without doing any fact checking are ruining their own reputations. But of course the idiots abound out there, so there is no shortage of fodder. Trump is the perfect example of the effect of this dumbing down that has been going on for decades now.

I do remember trying to get that producer to level with me. That was hopeless. I think her name was Bonnie something. She seemed completely stuck in Judyth's web.

I am disappointed in Ed Haslam also. I am nagged by the thought that he and Judyth cooked this whole thing up before MF+TMV was even written. They are both from Bradenton, FL. They could have met much earlier than they disclose. MF+TMV just 'happens' to have a sighting of a fake JVB. Then, lo and behold, the 'real' JVB appears. I also recall that it was Ed Haslam who managed to bring Judyth to the attention of 60 Minutes. How he ever had enough clout to do that with such an eccentric book (which I used to happen to like) I do not know. Don Hewitt was the producer who almost put Judyth on 60 Minutes. Judyth said he claimed "we had the door shut in our faces." That may have been after they gave Judyth a psych eval. I don't recall the details. But it is all a sorry mess anyhow....

[Paul Brancato]

Haslam has lost credibility for sure. I read his books. They were interesting. But I the end I have to conclude he was mistaken or worse. All the stuff about Banister's files, monkey viruses and polio being the origins of AIDS, the idea that Ferrie or anyone else in that milieu were serious cancer researchers is just nonsensical.

[Douglas Caddy]

Linda Minor is a close friend and I think her support of Judyth comes from her admiration for the work of Kris Millegan of TrineDay publishers, who is Judyth's chief sponsor. There a few persons more talented and credible that Linda Minor in her ongoing research into major topics, including the JFK assassination.

Although I shall not be speaking at Judyth's JFK Assassination convention in November because she withdrew my invitation after having extended it to me, she has assembled a number of outstanding speakers. It would be unrealistic to maintain that these speakers will lose their credibility and prestige because they are participating in the convention. They will be presenting their views and opinions independent of those expressed by Judyth.

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Edited August 5, 2016 by Douglas Caddy

[James DiEugenio]

PB: I also recall that it was Ed Haslam who managed to bring Judyth to the attention of 60 Minutes. How he ever had enough clout to do that with such an eccentric book (which I used to happen to like) I do not know. Don Hewitt was the producer who almost put Judyth on 60 Minutes. Judyth said he claimed "we had the door shut in our faces." That may have been after they gave Judyth a psych eval. I don't recall the details. But it is all a sorry mess anyhow....

​It was Carol Hewett, the Florida attorney, who did an investigation for CBS on JVB. Carol was one of the best JFK researchers to emerge after Oliver Stone's movie came out. She came to the conclusion that Baker's story was not credible. So CBS decided not to go with her. Carol has since retired from the field.