Count me among the sacrilegious, but I believe the throat wound may have been one of exit

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Given the fact that all the evidence is fuzzy and inexact (I am being polite here), it is entirely possible that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited near his throat.

A doctor friend told me about this case. A guy was involved in a bar brawl (back home in Venezuela) and was shot point blank near the middle of the forehead, between the eyes. When my friend received the patient in the E.R. he was in obvious shock, scared, etc but otherwise in perfect shape. There was very little blood. No exit orifice anywhere.

The resting place of projectile was finally located in the middle of his back, it had traveled between the cranial bones and the skin.

It is a well known fact that water, electricity and bullets are lazy: they follow the path of least resistance.

Edited September 23, 2015 by Ramon F. Herrera

[Cliff Varnell]

Given the fact that all the evidence is fuzzy and inexact (I am being polite here), it is entirely possible that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited near his throat.

There is nothing fuzzy about the evidence. It's the competence of those pretending to study the evidence that's fuzzy (I'm being polite).

The bullet holes in JFK's shirt and jacket are 4 inches below the bottom of the collars.

That location is too low to have been associated with the throat wound.

If you think differently, the burden of proof is on YOU to show how those holes lined up with the throat wound.

A doctor friend told me about this case. A guy was involved in a bar brawl (back home in Venezuela) and was shot point blank near the middle of the forehead, between the eyes. When my friend received the patient in the E.R. he was in obvious shock, scared, etc but otherwise in perfect shape. There was very little blood. No exit orifice anywhere.

The resting place of projectile was finally located in the middle of his back, it had traveled between the cranial bones and the skin.

It is a well known fact that water, electricity and bullets are lazy: they follow the path of least resistance.

The neck x-ray shows a hair-line fracture of the T1 transverse process.

The bullet entering at T3 isn't going to cause a hairline fracture at T1.

[Glenn Nall]

Given the fact that all the evidence is fuzzy and inexact (I am being polite here), it is entirely possible that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited near his throat.

A doctor friend told me about this case. A guy was involved in a bar brawl (back home in Venezuela) and was shot point blank near the middle of the forehead, between the eyes. When my friend received the patient in the E.R. he was in obvious shock, scared, etc but otherwise in perfect shape. There was very little blood. No exit orifice anywhere.

The resting place of projectile was finally located in the middle of his back, it had traveled between the cranial bones and the skin.

It is a well known fact that water, electricity and bullets are lazy: they follow the path of least resistance.

I'm inclined to think that it's possible that it's an exit wound, as well. Or that it's an entrance wound. I also think that there's enough other evidence for more than three gunshots to the extent that the cause of this throat wound is pretty much irrelevant.

I'm also reminded that some people have no earthly clue how to respond to a post and remain relevant to the context.

[David Lifton]

Given the fact that all the evidence is fuzzy and inexact (I am being polite here), it is entirely possible that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited near his throat.

There is nothing fuzzy about the evidence. It's the competence of those pretending to study the evidence that's fuzzy (I'm being polite).

The bullet holes in JFK's shirt and jacket are 4 inches below the bottom of the collars.

That location is too low to have been associated with the throat wound.

If you think differently, the burden of proof is on YOU to show how those holes lined up with the throat wound.

A doctor friend told me about this case. A guy was involved in a bar brawl (back home in Venezuela) and was shot point blank near the middle of the forehead, between the eyes. When my friend received the patient in the E.R. he was in obvious shock, scared, etc but otherwise in perfect shape. There was very little blood. No exit orifice anywhere.

The resting place of projectile was finally located in the middle of his back, it had traveled between the cranial bones and the skin.

It is a well known fact that water, electricity and bullets are lazy: they follow the path of least resistance.

The neck x-ray shows a hair-line fracture of the T1 transverse process.

The bullet entering at T3 isn't going to cause a hairline fracture at T1.

You are "right on".

There so much fuzzy reasoning on this issue; but the best evidence--the original evidence--is quite clear.

Thanks for taking the time to remind everyone of the obvious.

DSL

[Cliff Varnell]

Given the fact that all the evidence is fuzzy and inexact (I am being polite here), it is entirely possible that a bullet entered JFK's back and exited near his throat.

There is nothing fuzzy about the evidence. It's the competence of those pretending to study the evidence that's fuzzy (I'm being polite).

The bullet holes in JFK's shirt and jacket are 4 inches below the bottom of the collars.

That location is too low to have been associated with the throat wound.

If you think differently, the burden of proof is on YOU to show how those holes lined up with the throat wound.

A doctor friend told me about this case. A guy was involved in a bar brawl (back home in Venezuela) and was shot point blank near the middle of the forehead, between the eyes. When my friend received the patient in the E.R. he was in obvious shock, scared, etc but otherwise in perfect shape. There was very little blood. No exit orifice anywhere.

The resting place of projectile was finally located in the middle of his back, it had traveled between the cranial bones and the skin.

It is a well known fact that water, electricity and bullets are lazy: they follow the path of least resistance.

The neck x-ray shows a hair-line fracture of the T1 transverse process.

The bullet entering at T3 isn't going to cause a hairline fracture at T1.

You are "right on".

There so much fuzzy reasoning on this issue; but the best evidence--the original evidence--is quite clear.

Thanks for taking the time to remind everyone of the obvious.

DSL

Brutally obvious, indeed.

Thank you, David.

[Jon G. Tidd]

To all:

The most shameful medical procedure on JFK'S body was the autopsy. Period.

If I'm a autopsy physician looking at JFK's remains. I want to know the cause of his death. That means determining his wounds and their cause.

If you are a physician, correct what I want to know.

If you are a physician, please step forward and tell all here the cause of JFK's death.

[Chris Newton]

Jon,

I'm not a physician but I can tell you the cause of JFK's death was a gunshot to the head.

David Lifton and Cyril Wecht have been answering your questions for 20+ years, take a moment and listen to them.

[Kenneth Drew]

Jon,

I'm not a physician but I can tell you the cause of JFK's death was a gunshot to the head.

David Lifton and Cyril Wecht have been answering your questions for 20+ years, take a moment and listen to them.

I'm not a physician but I can tell you the cause of JFK's death was a gunshot to the head.

That's my opinion also.

[Don Jeffries]

Cliff is right- this is the essential point of the entire controversy. All logic, and every early account, pointed to the throat wound being one of entrance. Obviously, this presented a huge problem for those constructing the official fairy tale.

The bullet holes in JFK's clothing alone disprove the SBT. The throat wound is icing on the cake.

[Dawn Meredith]

Cliff is right- this is the essential point of the entire controversy. All logic, and every early account, pointed to the throat wound being one of entrance. Obviously, this presented a huge problem for those constructing the official fairy tale.

The bullet holes in JFK's clothing alone disprove the SBT. The throat wound is icing on the cake.

I remember the reports of Doctors Clark and Perry that first day. It was one of the many reasons I knew that day that it was a conspiracy.

[Greg Burnham]

To all:

The most shameful medical procedure on JFK'S body was the autopsy. Period.

If I'm a autopsy physician looking at JFK's remains. I want to know the cause of his death. That means determining his wounds and their cause.

If you are a physician, correct what I want to know.

If you are a physician, please step forward and tell all here the cause of JFK's death.

"Dr. Burkley [the President's physician] told me it's a simple matter of a bullet right through the head." -- Malcolm Kilduff

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Jon,

I'm not a physician but I can tell you that the cause of JFK's death was a gunshot to the head.

A shot to the head that came from the the front. This can be proven with complete mathematical certainty, and best of all: without the US government lifting one finger.

We The People can solve this. See the initial path to part of the solution here:

http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/questions/20831/need-to-perform-a-computational-fluid-dynamic-simulation-analysis-of-a-human-bra

With every passing year, science and technology are more and more on our side, while leaving Warren apologists abandoned.

-Ramon

ps: For completeness, you may want to read this post as well:

"Looking for Douglas Horne and David Mantik"

http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/index.php/topic/1725-looking-for-douglas-horne-and-david-mantik/

[Kenneth Drew]

To all:

The most shameful medical procedure on JFK'S body was the autopsy. Period.

If I'm a autopsy physician looking at JFK's remains. I want to know the cause of his death. That means determining his wounds and their cause.

If you are a physician, correct what I want to know.

If you are a physician, please step forward and tell all here the cause of JFK's death.

"Dr. Burkley [the President's physician] told me it's a simple matter of a bullet right through the head." -- Malcolm Kilduff

Sounds like he's describing what we all saw.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Kenneth, all:

One detail that has bothered me for a long time is this. Apparently, nobody (or very few) saw the entrance hole, whose location is supposedly the vertix observed by Dr. McClelland in his 1998 visit to the National Archives. That was a scalpel guided attempt to obliterate the entry hole.

The problem is that the Dallas doctors were too busy trying to save a life, while those in Bethesda were trying to kill Kennedy, for the 2nd. time (*).

-Ramon

(*) and Bill O'Reilly, for the 3rd. time, much to the delight of the Far Right.

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Kennedy-The-End-Camelot-ebook/dp/B0079886DY/ref=pd_sim_351_1

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Mr Lifton/David:

I probably owe you an apology. With this thread, my intention was far from attempting to demean your invaluable research. I was simply trying to play the role of devil's advocate (hence the sacrilege :-). Like everybody else, I happen to have my pet theory. To me, the fatal shot is the most straightforward, express way to reach the truth. With every passing month, science and technology are closer to our side.

After watching the video posted by Ken Drew above (your Bismark State speech), something dawned on me: You were at the *precise* interface between the truth (science, physics, engineering, academia, logic) and the deception (lawiars :-) The memo from your mentor prof. Wesley Lieberman and its immediate rejection by council Lee Rankin was a development of fundamental historic importance.

Sincerely,

-Ramon

ps: With apologies to many relatives and friends who are lawyers. They are the ones that enjoy most being the butt of jokes.