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I am a refugee from JFK Facts.

When I discovered this site (I knew about it, but did not pay much attention) I was thrilled. Finally! A place where I can make my graphical explanations and arguments!!

Much to my dismay I noticed, horrified, that every time I add an attachment, some sort of disk quota is spent, considerably.

I have the exact same problem in Greg Burnham's site:

http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/

Right now, I can only attach files of 44.27KB or less.

TIA,

-Ramon

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Ramon,

This is a carry over from John Simkin's time. Allowing attachments affects our hosting charge, as a consequence of increasing hosting disk space. We have no intention of changing that decision.

If it is images you wish to post then I suggest you open an account with a site like Photobucket. All you do is post the link to the file stored elsewhere.

James.

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Ramon,

This is a carry over from John Simkin's time. Allowing attachments affects our hosting charge, as a consequence of increasing hosting disk space. We have no intention of changing that decision.

If it is images you wish to post then I suggest you open an account with a site like Photobucket. All you do is post the link to the file stored elsewhere.

James.

So the limit is lifetime? We enjoy the first day, and that is the end of it. (sounds like my honeymoon ;-)

Instead of allowing the newcomer to have expectations that will become unfulfilled, wouldn't it be more straightforward to eliminate any pretense of the site accepting images?

-Ramon

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Ramon,

This is a carry over from John Simkin's time. Allowing attachments affects our hosting charge, as a consequence of increasing hosting disk space. We have no intention of changing that decision.

If it is images you wish to post then I suggest you open an account with a site like Photobucket. All you do is post the link to the file stored elsewhere.

James.

James:

Last summer, in order to copy the full National Archives JFK Collection and donate it to the community:

http://s18283067.onlinehome-server.com/~ramon/jfk-collection/

I ended up renting 3 servers. Linux, full access, unlimited bandwidth. The nice NARA folks kept on blocking my web scrapping (*) connections, so I had to use the other servers. Even outside the US.

But I digress...

The point is this: I simply could not believe how inexpensive hosting can be these days.

I don't think there is a better deal than these folks:

http://www.1and1.com/

For instance, back in my Cambridge days, we used to pay $100/year for a domain. Now I pay $0.99/year.

-Ramon

(*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_scraping

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I am a refugee from JFK Facts.

When I discovered this site (I knew about it, but did not pay much attention) I was thrilled. Finally! A place where I can make my graphical explanations and arguments!!

Much to my dismay I noticed, horrified, that every time I add an attachment, some sort of disk quota is spent, considerably.

I have the exact same problem in Greg Burnham's site:

http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/

Right now, I can only attach files of 44.27KB or less.

TIA,

-Ramon

Hi Ramon,

As I stated on my forum, there is no bandwidth limitation there. I have only received reports from two members indicating they are unable to upload images directly into their post. I have never had any issue with it and I have uploaded many, many images (literally hundreds). One of our founding members, Phil Dragoo, has uploaded dozens of images without any problems, as well. The only other person experiencing this problem is also a founding member. I mention that to remove any question as to whether or not having the "founding member status" effects the uploading capability. It does not.

Even here at the EF I have uploaded a lot of images over the years (in my 2,000+ posts) and have had no issues with it. It says I can still upload up to 86.79MB.

I am going to test uploading an image right now to make sure--after which time I will delete the image to preserve bandwidth. I will report on its success or failure after I remove the image to preserve space.

Test image is about 68kb:

post-6307-0-19988100-1443470763_thumb.jpg

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I am a refugee from JFK Facts.

When I discovered this site (I knew about it, but did not pay much attention) I was thrilled. Finally! A place where I can make my graphical explanations and arguments!!

Much to my dismay I noticed, horrified, that every time I add an attachment, some sort of disk quota is spent, considerably.

I have the exact same problem in Greg Burnham's site:

http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/

Right now, I can only attach files of 44.27KB or less.

TIA,

-Ramon

Hi Ramon,

As I stated on my forum, there is no bandwidth limitation there. I have only received reports from two members indicating they are unable to upload images directly into their post. I have never had any issue with it and I have uploaded many, many images (literally hundreds). One of our founding members, Phil Dragoo, has uploaded dozens of images without any problems, as well. The only other person experiencing this problem is also a founding member. I mention that to remove any question as to whether or not having the "founding member status" effects the uploading capability. It does not.

Even here at the EF I have uploaded a lot of images over the years (in my 2,000+ posts) and have had no issues with it. It says I can still upload up to 86.79MB.

I am going to test uploading an image right now to make sure--after which time I will delete the image to preserve bandwidth. I will report on its success or failure after I remove the image to preserve space.

Test image is about 68kb:

attachicon.gifJFK and Buttons.jpg

Hi Greg:

At the bottom of these web pages, it says "Community Forum Software by IP.Board 3.4.7" while in yours I cannot find an equivalent identifier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invision_Power_Board

https://www.invisionpower.com/

When you created yours, did you use this one as a reference?

TIA,

-Ramon

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Hi Greg:

At the bottom of these web pages, it says "Community Forum Software by IP.Board 3.4.7" while in yours I cannot find an equivalent identifier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invision_Power_Board

https://www.invisionpower.com/

When you created yours, did you use this one as a reference?

TIA,

-Ramon

No I did not.

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Hi Greg:

When you created yours, did you use this one as a reference?

TIA,

-Ramon

No I did not.

I guess my correct question should have been this: Do you know whether your forum and the Education Forum use the same forum software? I believe the answer is "affirmative". Just take a look at both. They are almost identical:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/jfk/EducationForum.png

http://patriot.net/~ramon/jfk/GregsForum.png

It seems that some "XmasZen.com" did your web work? Unfortunately, that company does not seem to be available anymore.

I guess the solution is (1) Contact the Education Forum's software provider (2) Ask them about the procedure to manage attachment quotas and (3) Hope that the solution for your site is equivalent.

-Ramon

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it is affirmative. the source code shows many references to IPB, which is Invision Power Board.

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Hi Greg:

When you created yours, did you use this one as a reference?

TIA,

-Ramon

No I did not.

I guess my correct question should have been this: Do you know whether your forum and the Education Forum use the same forum software? I believe the answer is "affirmative". Just take a look at both. They are almost identical:

http://patriot.net/~ramon/jfk/EducationForum.png

http://patriot.net/~ramon/jfk/GregsForum.png

It seems that some "XmasZen.com" did your web work? Unfortunately, that company does not seem to be available anymore.

I guess the solution is (1) Contact the Education Forum's software provider (2) Ask them about the procedure to manage attachment quotas and (3) Hope that the solution for your site is equivalent.

-Ramon

that's a good try, but it's not the software that controls the size of uploads. it's the host/server. each host sets these limits in a number of places, some hosts allow the owner to control these settings, some do not. sometimes the upload size can be overridden with a file called php.ini (assuming the website is running on PHP, which it almost certainly is) or other ways. when the software has these limits, it always provides a way for the user to change the settings. doesn't do the software maker any good to limit its customers with such a basic need.

and "web work" is an awfully generous term. these forum softwares (IPB, phpBB, vBulletin) are simple to purchase, and the ability to use a mouse can have you up and running a forum easily enough.

the trick is getting the traffic. having a website doesn't mean riches beyond your wildest imagination. you have to attract people to it (the subject helps - my VERY fledgling and completely infant JFK website already gets more traffic than my other two websites - and I'm a professional developer),

google's algorithms, and those of the lesser search engines, want to see quality and relevant content. the quality content that is provided by EF and Greg's website tickles google to pieces. (if you thought math was just for failing in high school, think again).

good thing google can't see bickering. huh?

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I am a refugee from JFK Facts.

When I discovered this site (I knew about it, but did not pay much attention) I was thrilled. Finally! A place where I can make my graphical explanations and arguments!!

Much to my dismay I noticed, horrified, that every time I add an attachment, some sort of disk quota is spent, considerably.

I have the exact same problem in Greg Burnham's site:

http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/

Right now, I can only attach files of 44.27KB or less.

TIA,

-Ramon

Hi Ramon,

As I stated on my forum, there is no bandwidth limitation there. I have only received reports from two members indicating they are unable to upload images directly into their post. I have never had any issue with it and I have uploaded many, many images (literally hundreds). One of our founding members, Phil Dragoo, has uploaded dozens of images without any problems, as well. The only other person experiencing this problem is also a founding member. I mention that to remove any question as to whether or not having the "founding member status" effects the uploading capability. It does not.

Even here at the EF I have uploaded a lot of images over the years (in my 2,000+ posts) and have had no issues with it. It says I can still upload up to 86.79MB.

I am going to test uploading an image right now to make sure--after which time I will delete the image to preserve bandwidth. I will report on its success or failure after I remove the image to preserve space.

Test image is about 68kb:

attachicon.gifJFK and Buttons.jpg

such a great pic. no need to remove it...

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that's a good try, but it's not the software that controls the size of uploads. it's the host/server. each host sets these limits in a number of places, some hosts allow the owner to control these settings, some do not. sometimes the upload size can be overridden with a file called php.ini (assuming the website is running on PHP, which it almost certainly is) or other ways. when the software has these limits, it always provides a way for the user to change the settings. doesn't do the software maker any good to limit its customers with such a basic need.

Glenn: Please take a good, close look at this thread:

http://forum.assassinationofjfk.net/index.php/topic/1725-looking-for-douglas-horne-and-david-mantik/

Did you notice all the richness of communication? All those images? The luscious colors? That 21st. century forum?

The question we are trying resolve is why there is some statement in that site that says:

if (user == "Ramon Herrera" or user == "Charles Drago") then AttachmentQuota = 0;

else AttachmentQuota = infinite;

-Ramon

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how the hell did you know i know code?

if (user == "Ramon Herrera" or user == "Charles Drago") then AttachmentQuota = 0; else AttachmentQuota = infinite;

that's funny. and NOW you're speaking my lingo.

but if you're suggesting bold things, you'll have to clarify, or PM me. as far as software goes, i'm pretty sure it adheres to "principalities before personalities."

in other words, it's likely user error. X2.

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It is user error.

Greg:

How can clicking a button that says "post" be a user error? How was I able to post this, with a very small image?

-Ramon F Herrera

Internet Pioneer and Co-Founder while at MIT

System Administrator for 30 Years

Holder of 2 Computer-Related Engineering Degrees

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