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Jim,

you couldn't see much of anything from those 1st floor windows. This was all shown during a thread on Eddie Piper at Lancer a while back. He claimed to watch the motorcade from a window down there and it was just not possible to do so.

Givens lie was to cover up early stories in the press and police news conferences indicating an employee (described as a Janitor/Porter) had escorted Oswald upstairs, That employee was undoubtedly Eddie Piper. It was no coincidence that Piper fit the description of the Elderly Negro given by Rowlands.

But it was not Oswald he escorted. Just as Oswald was substituted for the man encountered by Baker on the 4th floor, so Oswald was substituted here for the man escorted by Piper. Apart from all the evidence placing Oswald downstairs during the attack, Oswald NEEDED no escort to go anywhere in the building. However someone flashing Secret Service credentials would...

Most of the evidence underpinning this can be found at http://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t34-was-eddie-piper-on-the-6th-floor

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On his book page, I've asked O'Reilly to accept my Challenge: $25,000 to him if he can prove my book wrong. He hasn't accepted. Guess that's not the publicity he's looking for.

In your reviews of his book, just ask him when he'll be accepting that Challenge. His silence will speak volumes.

Oh boy, you need to get some main stream media publicity for this challenge to Bill O'Reilly. That challenge is a very important tool when applied at the right point and O'Reilly is one of those points!

True enough, Mike, but the beauty is that the conspiracy realist camp has the steering wheel in their OWN hands. They don't have to WAIT for the MSM to force O'Reilly's hand! All they have to do is mention that there IS a Challenge he ought to accept in the Amazon reviews. Anyone buying the book is going to be reading the reviews. If O'Reilly ducks, everyone is going to know it.

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For what its worth, I ordered the book today. I will review it immediately.

And I called my publisher to let him know I am willing to meet BIg Bill anywhere to debate him.

Now that would be something to see. I'd love it if he had you on his show. But I am guessing he's too chickenxxxx.

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I do think Lee Harvey Oswald was in some way involved with the JFK assassination due to the simple fact that he was U.S. intelligence. I do NOT think he shot anyone on 11/22/63, but rather Oswald was the "fall guy" for the U.S. military/intelligence murderers of John Kennedy. Of course, I do think Lyndon Johnson was involved, too, although he may not have pre-planned the framing of Oswald. That would be tasked to U.S. intelligence and the men who were manipulating/setting up Oswald.

So, let's say O'Reilly is correct - that Oswald was indeed involved - then I would point out that Oswald was an agent of U.S. military/intelligence and he was murderering JFK for them!

Re: Oswald's intelligence connections read:

1) "Oswald and the CIA" book by John Newman

2) "Spy Saga: Lee Harvey Oswald and US Intelligence" book by Philip Melanson

3) "History Will Not Absolve Us" by Martin Schotz (Chapter 5 "Oswald and U.S. Intelligence" by Christopher Sharrett)

4) "Me and Lee" book by Judyth Vary Baker (Oswald's mistress in New Orleans, summer 1963)

5) "A Certain Arrogance: U.S. Intelligence's Manipulation of Religious Groups and Individuals in Two World Wars and the Cold War - and the Sacrificing of Lee Harvey Oswald" book by George Michael Evica

6) "Accessories After the Fact" by Sylvia Meagher, Chapter 19 "Oswald and the State Department'"

7) "Coup D'Etat in America: The CIA and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy" by Alan Weberman & Michael Canfield, Chapter 3 "Was Oswald a CIA Agent?"

8) "Oswald in New Orleans: Case for Conspiracy with the CIA" by Harold Weisberg

9) Google “Lee Harvey Oswald’s reading habits summer 1963” by Judyth Vary Baker

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That excerpt was mighty crappy, IMO. WC Rehash. Adding nothing new. No insight whatsoever. No discussion of the evidence. It's as if O'Reilly believes the problem with the story the WC chose to tell in its report was not that it was at odds with the evidence, or made doubtful because of the evidence, but that it was just too high-falutin'.

I can just hear him telling his publisher "If ONLY the story had been DUMBED-DOWN for the public, maybe more people would have accepted it..."

O'Reilly is even worse than I thought.

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That excerpt was mighty crappy, IMO. WC Rehash. Adding nothing new. No insight whatsoever. No discussion of the evidence. It's as if O'Reilly believes the problem with the story the WC chose to tell in its report was not that it was at odds with the evidence, or made doubtful because of the evidence, but that it was just too high-falutin'.

I can just hear him telling his publisher "If ONLY the story had been DUMBED-DOWN for the public, maybe more people would have accepted it..."

O'Reilly is even worse than I thought.

But see, the ball is in your hands now. Just post a review of his book to Amazon, and challenge him to an arbitration. He'll fold, and your point will be proven.

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This is a real opportunity.

Everyone should get Amazon reviews up ASAP.

Everyone should also include THE PRODUCT LINKS BUTTON IN THE AMAZON REVIEW. WE CAN EASILY BOOST SALES OF GREAT BOOKS WITH THIS SPIN OFF EFFECT.

WE CAN ALSO MENTION GREAT SITES LIKE BLACK OP RADIO AND CTKA IN THE REVIEWS BOOSTING AWARENESS OF THESE GREAT SITES OVERNIGHT.

This could really be a blessing in disguise. All 3 or 4 formats of this book are already selling very very high.

This judo media opportunity cannot be missed, given how unfairly the corporate media treat books like JFK and the Unspeakable and Breach of Trust. Speaking of Breach, that is a book that REALLY Deserves to become better known. How about some product links for that and Unspeakable in the Riley book?

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This is a real opportunity.

Everyone should get Amazon reviews up ASAP.

Everyone should also include THE PRODUCT LINKS BUTTON IN THE AMAZON REVIEW. WE CAN EASILY BOOST SALES OF GREAT BOOKS WITH THIS SPIN OFF EFFECT.

WE CAN ALSO MENTION GREAT SITES LIKE BLACK OP RADIO AND CTKA IN THE REVIEWS BOOSTING AWARENESS OF THESE GREAT SITES OVERNIGHT.

This could really be a blessing in disguise. All 3 or 4 formats of this book are already selling very very high.

This judo media opportunity cannot be missed, given how unfairly the corporate media treat books like JFK and the Unspeakable and Breach of Trust. Speaking of Breach, that is a book that REALLY Deserves to become better known. How about some product links for that and Unspeakable in the Riley book?

Absolutely. But also personally challenge O'Reilly to debate you in your review, or appear before an arbitrator. Everyone needs to know this issue is DEFINED; there is no dispute.

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The idea and format of a debate with Bill O'Reilly about his new book will not be without precedent. O'Reilly's staff issued this press release a week ago:

BILL O'REILLY & JON STEWART SQUARE OFF IN

"THE RUMBLE IN THE AIR-CONDITIONED AUDITORIUM"

SATURDAY, OCTOBER 6th - 8PM EST

LISNER AUDITORIUM - THE GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY

90 Minute Debate Moderated By E.D. Hill

Streamed Live at:

www.therumble2012.com

YouTube trailer:

NEW YORK, NY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2012 - With the presidential election in full swing, two of America's most influential media personalities, Bill O'Reilly (The O'Reilly Factor) and Jon Stewart (The Daily Show with Jon Stewart), will go toe-to-toe in a special 90 minute debate dubbed "The Rumble in The Air-Conditioned Auditorium." Moderated by former Fox News Live Host and CNN contributor, E.D. Hill, "The Rumble" will be streamed live, Saturday, October 6th, from Washington, D.C. at the Lisner Auditorium on the campus of The George Washington University. Mr. O'Reilly and Mr. Stewart will donate one-half of the net profits from "The Rumble" to a number of charitable causes.

The debate will be streamed live (purchased for $4.95) and for a limited time be available on-demand (post-debate) atwww.therumble2012.com. Pre-sales of internet streams begin September 17th. Tickets to attend the debate go on sale Tuesday, September 18th at 11am from the Lisner Box Office and www.lisner.org. Tickets are $100.00/$75.00. A limited number of $25.00 student tickets will be available from the Box Office with a valid GW Student I.D. All tickets are subject to a service charge. Anyone who pre-orders the event online before October 1st will have the opportunity to submit a written question to Mr. Stewart or Mr. O'Reilly that may be asked as part of the debate.

Democrats, Republicans, and Independents from around the country, and the world, will have the chance to gather around their computer screens, tablets, iPads, or mobile devices and watch the two popular cable television hosts go head-to-head on array of topics related to the state of our union and... the world.

"I'm excited to debate Mr. O'Reilly," said Stewart. "I believe this will be a very enjoyable night for fans of our programs, political junkies, partisans and people who just enjoy yelling."

"I had no idea my agent signed me up for this," O'Reilly said. "How can I get out of it?"

http://www.billoreil...4157988440.html

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Coming just a few days after the release of Killing Kennedy, it will be interesting to see if the book will be mentioned, touched on, or debated by Stewart.

I would expect the answer to be yes, as O'Reilly will undoubtedly want the publicity.

Although others may be technically more qualified, it is possible that it would take a "name" like Jesse Ventura to make a debate about the Kennedy assassination happen.

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Debate, schmebate. Debates just convey the illusion that there is some sort of legitimate issue at controversy. More importantly, there is no arbitrator to make a decision as to which side of the "debate" actually prevailed from the standpoint of presenting evidence to support their position, unlike what you would have in a real trial. And that is what we need.

That whole thing smells like a circus, and that is all you are ever going to get out of O'Reilly.

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Debate, schmebate. Debates just convey the illusion that there is some sort of legitimate issue at controversy. More importantly, there is no arbitrator to make a decision as to which side of the "debate" actually prevailed from the standpoint of presenting evidence to support their position, unlike what you would have in a real trial. And that is what we need.

That whole thing smells like a circus, and that is all you are ever going to get out of O'Reilly.

You can't always get what you need. (Apologies to Jagger and Richards)

You get what you need--yeah, oh baby

I saw her today at the reception

In her glass was a bleeding man

She was practiced at the art of deception

Well I could tell by her blood-stained hands

You can't always get what you want (chorus)

But if you try sometimes you just might find

You just might find

You get what you need

You can't always get what you want (chorus)

But if you try sometimes you just might find

You just might find

You get what you need

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BK wants a grand jury, Nathaniel wants more reviews and links, Barry wants a trial, Morley and Judge want files to be released.

Many would be surprised if any of the above occurred.

At this point in time, it might be useful to ask: What is the ultimate goal?

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The ultimate goal is to explain to the American people that the evidence shows that the murder of President Kennedy is still unsolved. And, ultimately, that an innocent man was framed, which will then show the American people the true nature of "their" government.

Some people realized by the weekend of November 22 that Oswald was framed.

Some realized it when they read Mark Lane's Rush to Judgment. Some realized it during the Garrison investigation.

Others realized it when they saw Groden on the Geraldo Rivera show.

Some people realized that President Kennedy's murder remained unsolved when they followed the HSCA investigation and read Fonzi's book.

Some realized it when Stone's film hit the theaters.

Others had their own epiphany. For some, It could have been Lifton's book, or Douglass' book, or any one of the many others that proved that Kennedy's murder

was not solved by the United States Government.

For those that lived through many of these things and still cling to the belief that the Warren Commission got it right, a debate or even some sort of a trial format

with an arbitrator(s) will not change their minds. Nothing will.

I have a lot of respect for Barry and his approach, but unfortunately I'm not sure his challenge will ever become a game-changer in the minds of the American people.

Over the course of many years I've had occasion to talk to hundreds of people, many with only a casual interest at best, about what they think happened.

I don't think I've encountered more than a handful that said they believed the "official" story.

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