It's not about bragging, it's about truth

[Scott Kaiser]

What do I do now?

I can tell you, we do have a problem, that is, Tony Cuesta and Eugenio Saldivar are the men who fired on Kennedy, and killed him. Here's the problem, so what's to be done?

I have never, ever, mentioned any name, assumed any person, or said who fired at Kennedy in the [eight] years of researching my father's information. Thinking back, when Frank Sturgis was [bragging] to my father that he shot Kennedy, my father told me he didn't believe him. My father was talking to me in my bedroom, in the morning before he left for work, and before I left for school. My father started having a conversation with me as if he were talking to Frank saying, "So Frank tells me, I shot Kennedy, so I say to Frank, Frank, I don't believe you. I don't know what to believe." My father knew that Eugenio was involved without a doubt, he didn't have Eugenio or Tony's photos, but that doesn't mean they weren't involved.

Both Tony and Eugenio would be sent to Cuba in a secret plot to assassinate Fidel Castro just three years after Kennedy's assassination, and this was during the time LBJ would allow these men to run amok, they did what they wanted to do, and LBJ would not run a second term, this is coming from someone who supposedly planned Kennedy's assassination so he could become president? That's bullxxxx! However, that secret of Cuesta heading towards Cuba got out, Castro knew they were coming, and Castro's men ambushed Tony and Eugenio. He was waiting for them, they got caught in a firefight just ten miles off the coast of Cuba, whoever tipped off Castro was trying to do away with Tony and Eugenio. I know this to be true.

My father would later start working with Eugenio's father in trying to help the political prisoners escape in Cuba, and kill Castro.

The problem is who tipped off Castro, and why didn't anyone take a good hard look at Tony and Eugenio? By the way, Eugenio, and his phone number is found in my father's address book, this is how I was able to discover who this Eugenio was. The word Dallas is found under his name, my father would never come right out and say anything with everyone that was dying and getting killed nearly every week. Why do you suppose my father asked the Federal Government for protection for his family? My father left subtle information to be discovered, this is the truth, these are the facts. The question is, now that I have found my father's information, I suppose it's best, for some information, to be left alone.

I will always be straight with you, you will not get any bullxxxx from me, I have called out so many people, that no one has ever called me out on anything, and if they did. I wouldn't just defend myself, but I would provide facts too, the truth, the truth has always been a way to set you free, I know, I am now free indeed, and after eight long years, I sleep much better now knowing I have figured out what my father was telling me all along.

So, what do I do now?

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Scott:

I find your version extremely hard to believe, for the same reason that I told Roger Stone that Mac Wallace (*) could not possibly have been in Dealey Plaza.

Pawns are disposable. They must be rotated.

Notice how the Baron was sent to Haiti.

-Ramon

(*) This is how I made fun of the Roger Stone version in a forum, to his face:

"Lyndon Johnson dismissed the most powerful organization in the world, with lots of experience and resources dispatching presidentes and other heads of state, with more than enough motivation, and preferred a "Do-It-Yourself" operation. On a related news, Johnson always performed his own surgery (appendectomy, kidney stones, heart procedures, etc) on himself... Assisted by Nurse Wallace, of course.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Ramon F. Herrera

[Scott Kaiser]

Scott:

I find your version extremely hard to believe, for the same reason that I told Roger Stone that Mac Wallace (*) could not possibly be in Dealey Plaza.

Pawns are disposable. They must be rotated.

Notice how the Baron was sent to Haiti.

-Ramon

(*) This is how I made fun of the Roger Stone version in a forum, to his face:

"Lyndon Johnson dismissed the most powerful organization in the world, with lots of experience and resources dispatching presidentes and other heads of state, with more than enough motivation, and preferred a "Do-It-Yourself" hit. On a related news, Johnson always performed his own operations (appendectomy, kidney stones, heart procedures, etc) on himself... Assisted by Nurse Wallace, of course.

You are entitled to believe what you want, I suggest you get the whole story before you disregard mine, as for Haiti, Rolando Masferrer was in a lot of trouble for wanting to invade Haiti, my father was trying to get him out of the country, Navarro setup Rolando and my father many times, and this is why my father quit the Cubanos Unidos. My father knew how to speak French fluently, he was already plotting the assassination of Papa Doc so they could develop a land base in Haiti to attack Cuba, Papa Doc was assassinated, as for LBJ killing JFK, um no, no way. LBJ was to afraid of these Cubans in Miami, he allowed them to do what they wanted to do, the Mac Wallace story makes for a good story, but there's no proof. Truthfully, I would believe my father over anyone's theory, no offense, but it's true.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Scott Kaiser

[Scott Kaiser]

BTW... Anybody can tell me, well what about Wallace's palm print, would you disregard that Scott? The answer is yes. Why? The print itself was never conclusively proven it was his, some say well what about the 32 point match or whatever that match was. Do you know that there are folks with very similar palm prints that can also give the same match?

[Scott Kaiser]

Get the palm print look for a bad guy with a variable number of reference points that matches the print, then pin it on the bad guy.

[Thomas Graves]

BTW... Anybody can tell me, well what about Wallace's palm print, would you disregard that Scott? The answer is yes. Why? The print itself was never conclusively proven it was his, some say well what about the 32 point match or whatever that match was. Do you know that there are folks with very similar palm prints that can also give the same match?

I thought it was a little finger fingerprint found on one of the boxes.

--Tommy

[Scott Kaiser]

BTW... Anybody can tell me, well what about Wallace's palm print, would you disregard that Scott? The answer is yes. Why? The print itself was never conclusively proven it was his, some say well what about the 32 point match or whatever that match was. Do you know that there are folks with very similar palm prints that can also give the same match?

I thought it was a little finger fingerprint found on one of the boxes.

--Tommy

There were 19 latent fingerprints on those boxes. Of those all are accounted for except one PALM print on one box, It is this partial palm print, that the collage of the Wallace print was made.

http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=4205.15;wap2

I also heard Roger Stone explain the Mac Wallace theory, and in his testimony or theory whichever you want to call it. I heard him say, "Wallace's palm print". I myself never really looked into this, when I don't believe LBJ whacked JFK, sorry. Just because we have a difference of opinions doesn't mean I dislike him. I still call him friend, truth is. I have a lot of friends outside JFK, but once we start talking JFK our friendship goes out the window, no pun intended.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Scott Kaiser

[Thomas Graves]

BTW... Anybody can tell me, well what about Wallace's palm print, would you disregard that Scott? The answer is yes. Why? The print itself was never conclusively proven it was his, some say well what about the 32 point match or whatever that match was. Do you know that there are folks with very similar palm prints that can also give the same match?

I thought it was a little finger fingerprint found on one of the boxes.

--Tommy

There were 19 latent fingerprints on those boxes. Of those all are accounted for except one PALM print on one box, It is this partial palm print, that the collage of the Wallace print was made.

http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=4205.15;wap2

I also heard Roger Stone explain the Mac Wallace theory, and in his testimony or theory whichever you want to call it. I heard him say, "Wallace's palm print". I myself never really looked into this, when I don't believe LBJ whacked JFK, sorry. Just because we have a difference of opinions doesn't mean I dislike him. I still call him friend, truth is. I have a lot of friends outside JFK, but once we start talking JFK our friendship goes out the window, no pun intended.

Gosh, that's funny. I distinctly remember reading that the print attributed to Mac Wallace (by one fingerprint specialist who was became a "dear friend" of forum member Dawn Meridith) was a little finger print that was found on one of the boxes.

I remember speculating about it on this forum back in 2005 -- that Mac Wallace had left it while rearranging the boxes immediately after the shooting -- In order to create the "sniper's nest" which would help to "incriminate" Oswald. Either that, or someone planted Mac Wallace's fingerprint there. But then I asked "Why would a bad guy plant only Mac's little finger fingerprint, and no others?" I pointed out that that didn't really make sense.

--Tommy

Edited November 25, 2015 by Thomas Graves

[Ramon F. Herrera]

You are entitled to believe what you want, I suggest you get the whole story before you disregard mine [...]

I am willing to accept 99% of what you write. No need to read it. I have no reasons to doubt it. Just explain this.

You are David Phillips or William King or Allen Dulles. It is 1965. Your star shooters, Tony Cuesta and Eugenio Saldivar just accomplished the assassination of the millenium. What do you do with them?

"We are going to Disneyworld!!"

Not so fast, children ... You are going a little southern than that. To La Habana!!

Let's say that Fidel captures them.

Mr. Kaiser just stated that the CIA gave the most important secret in its history, as a free gift, to its worst enemy.

See if you can explain that.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Ramon F. Herrera

[James Richards]

As an aside, Eugenio Zaldivar Cadenas was 18 in 1963.

[Tom Hume]

A few links to the topic of Mac Wallace’s fingerprint discussed on the Education Forum.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20466

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6126

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20827

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18319

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2326

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6815

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2086&page=2

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=2321

Edited November 25, 2015 by Tom Hume

[David Von Pein]

VINCENT BUGLIOSI, NATHAN DARBY, MALCOLM WALLACE, AND CE3131:
http://amazon.com/forum/Fx2TVHW5I0UEY9A/AUGUST-21-2007
http://amazon.com/forum/Fx2TVHW5I0UEY9A/AUGUST-22-2007
https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/lU6c_7weDhA/LuKaw_9Ik5UJ
https://alt.conspiracy.jfk/lU6c_7weDhA/za4HyneSlT8J


Also see:
jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/05/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-944.html

Edited November 25, 2015 by David Von Pein

[David Von Pein]

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

That [Mac] Wallace print most certainly DID NOT come from any of the boxes in the Texas School Book Depository Building. And that fact is confirmed via Commission Exhibit No. 3131.


TONY FRATINI SAID:

David,

That fingerprint had to come from somewhere and why did it take the FBI 18 months to come to the conclusion that it wasn't a match? In addition, all of us know that there is NO WAY that ANY official body would ever admit to a Wallace fingerprint being anywhere near Dallas, let alone the sniper's nest. The implications of that are staggering.


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Tony,

I'm just going by THE EVIDENCE (which CE3131 certainly represents). And CE3131 says that all prints lifted off of the TSBD boxes were identified EXCEPT FOR ONE PALMPRINT, which the FBI was still trying to identify as of the date of the letter to the Warren Commission which is seen in CE3131 (and that date was September 18, 1964).

Anybody can CLAIM anything they want.

Who was it who first claimed that an "unidentified" print in the National Archives belonged to Malcolm Wallace anyway? Do you know?

I would say that the reason for any prints still being marked "unidentified" in the National Archives is due to the fact that there was a large gap in time between the time the TSBD box prints were photographed and the time the FBI finally got around to acquiring comparison prints of the various DPD officers. The FBI didn't get those DPD prints until August and September of '64 -- nine months after the assassination.

So it wasn't until AUGUST and SEPTEMBER that the "unidentified" prints on the TSBD boxes could be compared with the people to whom almost all of them actually belonged--members of the Dallas Police Department. And that's why fingerprint expert Arthur Mandella had to tell the Warren Commission on April 2, 1964 (4 to 5 months before most of the prints [save one palmprint] were positively identified), that he just simply did not know whose prints those "unidentified" prints belonged to. How could he have known as of 4/2/64? Nobody had even compared the prints with all the Dallas cops who touched the boxes until months after Mandella's testimony.

Why the delay? I have no idea.

But, regardless of the reason for that delay, CE3131 STILL EXISTS and is still the BEST EVIDENCE to this day regarding the prints on the Depository boxes.

If you want to believe that CE3131 is nothing but a con job--feel free. It won't be the first time (or the last) that a conspiracy theorist is willing to throw out the official evidence in the JFK case in favor of conjecture and unsupportable theories.

David Von Pein
January 15, 2010

[Scott Kaiser]

As an aside, Eugenio Zaldivar Cadenas was 18 in 1963.

Eugenio Saldivar Xiques, with an (S) not a (Z), this is who's found in my father's address book. The guy who got caught with Tony Cuesta.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Scott Kaiser

[Scott Kaiser]

You are entitled to believe what you want, I suggest you get the whole story before you disregard mine [...]

I am willing to accept 99% of what you write. No need to read it. I have no reasons to doubt it. Just explain this.

You are David Phillips or William King or Allen Dulles. It is 1965. Your star shooters, Tony Cuesta and Eugenio Saldivar just accomplished the assassination of the millenium. What do you do with them?

"We are going to Disneyworld!!"

Not so fast, children ... You are going a little southern than that. To La Habana!!

Let's say that Fidel captures them.

Mr. Kaiser just stated that the CIA gave the most important secret in its history, as a free gift, to its worst enemy.

See if you can explain that.

Sir, can you please point out where I said, "the CIA gave the most important secret in its history, as a free gift, to its worst enemy." Who said the CIA had anything to do with their plot at all? I do know that from Santiago Alvarez, folks knows him as "Tony" who was one of the leaders in Comando L during that time told me that Fidel Castro had infiltrated nearly every group, my father's group was infiltrated by Ricardo Cayo Cabrera who was the third highest ranking G2 agent who bragged about reporting directly to Fidel Castro. You probably don't know who Antonio is, but that's okay. No need to disclose his resume.

Castro knew they were coming, and both Tony and Eugenio were ambushed.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Scott Kaiser