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Damn ... That's too bad .... I hadn't tried to call him yet ... What about his e-mail address ? .... It is posted on this site also .... I will try to call and then see if I can get an e-mail to him ...

If none of that works, maybe there will be some information in his book on how to reach him .

Oh and TV talk shows come and go , so that might be why some of them can't be found ... Or maybe some of them could be European ? .... Good Morning America is still on the air ... Maybe that would be a resource.

“The person you are trying to reach is not accepting calls " ....Well , this would show that it is still a valid phone number , but for whatever reason he just might not want to talk to anymore Apollo moon hoax "nuts" or nasa geeks ?? LOL

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This all gets very interesting.

Duane mentioned the 5GHz thesis by...... Charles T. Hawkins, for a Master of Science (IIRC). That is real enough. So this Hawkins must be at least be scientifically trained, right?

I'm not sure. Apparently in Mr Hawkins book, he says he was born in 1962. The thesis by Charles T Hawkins was submitted in 1968.

Apparently Jay Windley, Bob Braeunig, and Phil Plait have all had some experience with someone who claimed to be his publisher:

http://www.clavius.org/bibhawkins.html

I'm going to reserve judgement on this person until I can confirm some details.

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I now have Charlie's book ... He obviously is not the same guy who wrote that disertation but he is a very real person with some pretty impressive credentials , and not someone else pretending to be him ...

He wrote his book after spending two years of investigating the Apollo Program , mostly online with a team of what he calls his "whiz kids " .... The book is a hoot ! ... It's mostly written for this team of kids for all the hard work they put into investigating the Apollo hoax ... The story goes like this ... He came home from work one day to find his son and some of his friends online discussing some of the moon hoax info and exclaiming that the Apollo astronauts never really went to he moon ! ... Charlie told them that they had to be kidding ? ... Of course the Apollo astronausts went to the moon ! ... Why would they think they hadn't ? .... Then the kids preceeded to show him some of the evidence they had found online showing that Apollo was a hoax .... Well, Charlie wasn't buying any of it , but he asked the kids if they would be interested in doing a project about it ... He told them if they really believed this wild claim to investigate it in depth and see what evidence they could come up with which would prove the Apollo photographs were not really taken on the moon or that the astronauts never really went there ...

So they started to look through hundreds of Apollo photos to see what anomalies they could find ... and boy did they find them ! ... But here is where Charlie's book gets pretty wild and silly , because the photos the kids came up with showed various different animals on the 'lunar' surface in the form of what are obvioulsy rocks and probably other misidentified objects ... The "bunnies in the clouds " thing ..... But here's where it gets better .... Charlie was so fascinated by what the kids were finding that he started to conduct his own investigation ... He studied thousands of Apollo photos , and didn't find animals but rather other anomalies such as torn spacesuits, astronaut dummies straped to lunar ladders and buggies , evidence of fly system harnesses ( like the one's they used in the practice sims ) propped up against the LM , fly system harness plugs and partial straps attached to the PLSS backpacks , which were not air brushed out of the photos , cryptic messages written in the 'lunar' soil, astronauts with open helmets ( Jack's "Mystery Image" is one of them ) and much more ....

The frustrating part is that the pictures in his book are very small and difficult at times to see these anomalies very clearly ... and even though he gives most of the photo numbers , they are numbers I don't recognize from the Apollo Image Gallery and some of them he warns would most likely be pulled from the nasa sites after the publication of his book .... I have looked at enough Apollo photos to know that they are all official nasa's Apollo photos though and apparently some do contain anomalous objects .... But what some of these objects are , is hard to tell .

There was one photo which he misidentified in his book though ... He claims that nasa claims it was taken on the moon , when in fact it was a photo taken during a training session .... The appparent confusion was that this photo was produced in color showing the studio background and then at some point was produced and posted on a nasa site in black and white with a black curtain dropped in the background to cover the back wall of the studio .... and then was somehow misidentified as having been taken on the moon ... He thought that nasa was trying to pass off a studio photo as a moon photo .... and from looking at his other evidence, I doubt this was any slight of hand done by him intentionally.

He also goes into much more than the amomalies in the Apollo photos and discusses different aspects of the Apollo hoax evidence that other conspiracy researchers have never gone into before .... He explains and even shows nasa training pictures of how 1/6 gravity was faked for the film footage by using fly systems rigged on walls ( not overhead ) and then the 'moon' was superimposed using blue screen imaging , how the LM really 'flew' , how early grid blue screen imaging was used to shoot some of the astronaut's still photos on the 'moon' ( and has pictures to prove this ) ... and that's as far as I've gotten so far ....

I will admit that a lot of what he put in his book was because his "whiz kids" found it .... but even with the silliness aside , Hawkins has brought up serious subjects and has put forth some very interesting hoax evidence .... But because of some of the adolescent 'evidence' , I can see why his book got such mixed reviews .

I plan to check out these photos in high resolution ... Even the one's where the kids think they saw dogs and cats and birds ( if I can find them ) and also see what I can turn up concerning some of his other hoax claims .... What fascinated me the most about the anomalous photos so far , were the two showing the fly system harnesses leaning up against the LM .... If he included the photo numbers in his book and if I can find them on the Apollo Image Gallery site , that would be quite a find indeed !

But then as Charlies wrote in the beginning of his book .... "I doubt you will able to find some of these photos on the nasa sites after my book is published " .... I bet he's right about that !

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I now have Charlie's book ... He obviously is not the same guy who wrote that disertation but he is a very real person with some pretty impressive credentials , and not someone else pretending to be him ...

He wrote his book after spending two years of investigating the Apollo Program , mostly online with a team of what he calls his "whiz kids " .... The book is a hoot ! ... It's mostly written for this team of kids for all the hard work they put into investigating the Apollo hoax ... The story goes like this ... He came home from work one day to find his son and some of his friends online discussing some of the moon hoax info and exclaiming that the Apollo astronauts never really went to he moon ! ... Charlie told them that they had to be kidding ? ... Of course the Apollo astronausts went to the moon ! ... Why would they think they hadn't ? .... Then the kids preceeded to show him some of the evidence they had found online showing that Apollo was a hoax .... Well, Charlie wasn't buying any of it , but he asked the kids if they would be interested in doing a project about it ... He told them if they really believed this wild claim to investigate it in depth and see what evidence they could come up with which would prove the Apollo photographs were not really taken on the moon or that the astronauts never really went there ...

So they started to look through hundreds of Apollo photos to see what anomalies they could find ... and boy did they find them ! ... But here is where Charlie's book gets pretty wild and silly , because the photos the kids came up with showed various different animals on the 'lunar' surface in the form of what are obvioulsy rocks and probably other misidentified objects ... The "bunnies in the clouds " thing ..... But here's where it gets better .... Charlie was so fascinated by what the kids were finding that he started to conduct his own investigation ... He studied thousands of Apollo photos , and didn't find animals but rather other anomalies such as torn spacesuits, astronaut dummies straped to lunar ladders and buggies , evidence of fly system harnesses ( like the one's they used in the practice sims ) propped up against the LM , fly system harness plugs and partial straps attached to the PLSS backpacks , which were not air brushed out of the photos , cryptic messages written in the 'lunar' soil, astronauts with open helmets ( Jack's "Mystery Image" is one of them ) and much more ....

The frustrating part is that the pictures in his book are very small and difficult at times to see these anomalies very clearly ... and even though he gives most of the photo numbers , they are numbers I don't recognize from the Apollo Image Gallery and some of them he warns would most likely be pulled from the nasa sites after the publication of his book .... I have looked at enough Apollo photos to know that they are all official nasa's Apollo photos though and apparently some do contain anomalous objects .... But what some of these objects are , is hard to tell .

There was one photo which he misidentified in his book though ... He claims that nasa claims it was taken on the moon , when in fact it was a photo taken during a training session .... The appparent confusion was that this photo was produced in color showing the studio background and then at some point was produced and posted on a nasa site in black and white with a black curtain dropped in the background to cover the back wall of the studio .... and then was somehow misidentified as having been taken on the moon ... He thought that nasa was trying to pass off a studio photo as a moon photo .... and from looking at his other evidence, I doubt this was any slight of hand done by him intentionally.

He also goes into much more than the amomalies in the Apollo photos and discusses different aspects of the Apollo hoax evidence that other conspiracy researchers have never gone into before .... He explains and even shows nasa training pictures of how 1/6 gravity was faked for the film footage by using fly systems rigged on walls ( not overhead ) and then the 'moon' was superimposed using blue screen imaging , how the LM really 'flew' , how early grid blue screen imaging was used to shoot some of the astronaut's still photos on the 'moon' ( and has pictures to prove this ) ... and that's as far as I've gotten so far ....

I will admit that a lot of what he put in his book was because his "whiz kids" found it .... but even with the silliness aside , Hawkins has brought up serious subjects and has put forth some very interesting hoax evidence .... But because of some of the adolescent 'evidence' , I can see why his book got such mixed reviews .

I plan to check out these photos in high resolution ... Even the one's where the kids think they saw dogs and cats and birds ( if I can find them ) and also see what I can turn up concerning some of his other hoax claims .... What fascinated me the most about the anomalous photos so far , were the two showing the fly system harnesses leaning up against the LM .... If he included the photo numbers in his book and if I can find them on the Apollo Image Gallery site , that would be quite a find indeed !

But then as Charlies wrote in the beginning of his book .... "I doubt you will able to find some of these photos on the nasa sites after my book is published " .... I bet he's right about that !

Duane...can you post images of some of his best discoveries?

Jack

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I now have Charlie's book ... He obviously is not the same guy who wrote that disertation but he is a very real person with some pretty impressive credentials , and not someone else pretending to be him ...

Could you post his credentials? I have been unable to find anything about him at all.

He wrote his book after spending two years of investigating the Apollo Program , mostly online with a team of what he calls his "whiz kids " .... The book is a hoot ! ... It's mostly written for this team of kids for all the hard work they put into investigating the Apollo hoax ... The story goes like this ... He came home from work one day to find his son and some of his friends online discussing some of the moon hoax info and exclaiming that the Apollo astronauts never really went to he moon ! ... Charlie told them that they had to be kidding ? ... Of course the Apollo astronausts went to the moon ! ... Why would they think they hadn't ? .... Then the kids preceeded to show him some of the evidence they had found online showing that Apollo was a hoax .... Well, Charlie wasn't buying any of it , but he asked the kids if they would be interested in doing a project about it ... He told them if they really believed this wild claim to investigate it in depth and see what evidence they could come up with which would prove the Apollo photographs were not really taken on the moon or that the astronauts never really went there ...

That's an excellent method.

So they started to look through hundreds of Apollo photos to see what anomalies they could find ... and boy did they find them ! ... But here is where Charlie's book gets pretty wild and silly , because the photos the kids came up with showed various different animals on the 'lunar' surface in the form of what are obvioulsy rocks and probably other misidentified objects ... The "bunnies in the clouds " thing ..... But here's where it gets better .... Charlie was so fascinated by what the kids were finding that he started to conduct his own investigation ... He studied thousands of Apollo photos , and didn't find animals but rather other anomalies such as torn spacesuits, astronaut dummies straped to lunar ladders and buggies , evidence of fly system harnesses ( like the one's they used in the practice sims ) propped up against the LM , fly system harness plugs and partial straps attached to the PLSS backpacks , which were not air brushed out of the photos , cryptic messages written in the 'lunar' soil, astronauts with open helmets ( Jack's "Mystery Image" is one of them ) and much more ....

I'd be very interested in seeing them. I've look through a fair few in my time, and have never seen anything like that. I presume he gives image numbers? And sources for the images?

The frustrating part is that the pictures in his book are very small and difficult at times to see these anomalies very clearly ... and even though he gives most of the photo numbers , they are numbers I don't recognize from the Apollo Image Gallery and some of them he warns would most likely be pulled from the nasa sites after the publication of his book .... I have looked at enough Apollo photos to know that they are all official nasa's Apollo photos though and apparently some do contain anomalous objects .... But what some of these objects are , is hard to tell .

If he has the image numbers, and they have been "pulled", we'll be able to tell. There are lists of all Apollo image numbers which were published well before Mr Hawkins ever started investigating the images.

There was one photo which he misidentified in his book though ... He claims that nasa claims it was taken on the moon , when in fact it was a photo taken during a training session .... The appparent confusion was that this photo was produced in color showing the studio background and then at some point was produced and posted on a nasa site in black and white with a black curtain dropped in the background to cover the back wall of the studio .... and then was somehow misidentified as having been taken on the moon ... He thought that nasa was trying to pass off a studio photo as a moon photo .... and from looking at his other evidence, I doubt this was any slight of hand done by him intentionally.

Yes, that would be unforetunate. Once you alter the evidence to fit your theory, then your examination of a subject becomes invalidated.

He also goes into much more than the amomalies in the Apollo photos and discusses different aspects of the Apollo hoax evidence that other conspiracy researchers have never gone into before .... He explains and even shows nasa training pictures of how 1/6 gravity was faked for the film footage by using fly systems rigged on walls ( not overhead )...

I'm wondering if this is the training system they developed at Langly to simulated 1/6 gravity?

apmisc-L65-6577.jpg

...and then the 'moon' was superimposed using blue screen imaging , how the LM really 'flew' , how early grid blue screen imaging was used to shoot some of the astronaut's still photos on the 'moon' ( and has pictures to prove this ) ... and that's as far as I've gotten so far ....

I know that was used in Star Trek, but am not sure how the technology transfers to still photography.

But then as Charlies wrote in the beginning of his book .... "I doubt you will able to find some of these photos on the nasa sites after my book is published " .... I bet he's right about that !

If he has quoted the NASA image numbers, then there will be no doubt. Various countries around the world have samples of the images from just after the moonwalks.

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I managed to find a bio of Charles. T. Hawkins from a website of a radio show on which he appeared:

Charles Hawkins was recently asked to conduct an in depth evaluation of the NASA Apollo Moon landings and make a scientific evaluation of their legitimacy. Has over 20 years of experience in the applied sciences, industrial electronics and robotics as well as a degree in computer science.

After two years of extensive research, he concluded that the Apollo astronauts Moon Landing could not and did not occur, and that the whole thing was a hoax. He has just completed a new over 300-page book revealing his findings called “How America Faked the Moon Landings”. It contains a great deal of new, controversial, never before seen evidence in which he claims proves conclusively that NASA staged the moon landings here on earth.

http://www.777radio.com/ssi/charles_hawkins_bio.shtml

Now, I have some questions about this. How does experience in applied science, industrial electronic & robotics make "Charles Hawkins, one of the greatest scientific minds of our time..."? I don't see any mention of papers he has submitted for peer review, research upon which has been taken up by others, nominations for a Nobel prize, etc, listed anywhere that I can find. Granted, he may be a very intelligent & accomplished man (though I still can't find any details of this) but I think calling him "... one of the greatest scientific minds of our time..." is gilding the lily.

Some of the questions on the website also are.... curious.

6. I see that you also claim to know how NASA’s Moon Rocks are fake, Please explain.

Yes, I'd also be interested. Has Mr Hawkin's applied science included geology / lunar science? After all, his seems to disputing people who have specialised in this field, indeed some of the world's experts.

7. You have claimed that the radiation the astronauts would have encountered traveling to and from the moon was far greater than a human being could tolerate? Please explain.

Same again for the biological & radiological sciences.

Oh, and the link to the website on the bottom of that page links to a real estate saleman. Obviously not the same person; I suspect that the domain name has been sold since the bio was put up.

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I now have Charlie's book ... He obviously is not the same guy who wrote that disertation but he is a very real person with some pretty impressive credentials , and not someone else pretending to be him ...

He wrote his book after spending two years of investigating the Apollo Program , mostly online with a team of what he calls his "whiz kids " .... The book is a hoot ! ... It's mostly written for this team of kids for all the hard work they put into investigating the Apollo hoax ... The story goes like this ... He came home from work one day to find his son and some of his friends online discussing some of the moon hoax info and exclaiming that the Apollo astronauts never really went to he moon ! ... Charlie told them that they had to be kidding ? ... Of course the Apollo astronausts went to the moon ! ... Why would they think they hadn't ? .... Then the kids preceeded to show him some of the evidence they had found online showing that Apollo was a hoax .... Well, Charlie wasn't buying any of it , but he asked the kids if they would be interested in doing a project about it ... He told them if they really believed this wild claim to investigate it in depth and see what evidence they could come up with which would prove the Apollo photographs were not really taken on the moon or that the astronauts never really went there ...

So they started to look through hundreds of Apollo photos to see what anomalies they could find ... and boy did they find them ! ... But here is where Charlie's book gets pretty wild and silly , because the photos the kids came up with showed various different animals on the 'lunar' surface in the form of what are obvioulsy rocks and probably other misidentified objects ... The "bunnies in the clouds " thing .....

This explains the images he posted on his website a couple of years ago - you can find it using the Wayback machine - his old url was www.charliehawkins.com (not to be confused with the current owner...) At least we know now that it wasn't he who saw these animals, but his son and friends.

But here's where it gets better .... Charlie was so fascinated by what the kids were finding that he started to conduct his own investigation ... He studied thousands of Apollo photos , and didn't find animals but rather other anomalies such as torn spacesuits, astronaut dummies straped to lunar ladders and buggies , evidence of fly system harnesses ( like the one's they used in the practice sims ) propped up against the LM , fly system harness plugs and partial straps attached to the PLSS backpacks , which were not air brushed out of the photos , cryptic messages written in the 'lunar' soil, astronauts with open helmets ( Jack's "Mystery Image" is one of them ) and much more ....

The frustrating part is that the pictures in his book are very small and difficult at times to see these anomalies very clearly ... and even though he gives most of the photo numbers , they are numbers I don't recognize from the Apollo Image Gallery and some of them he warns would most likely be pulled from the nasa sites after the publication of his book .... I have looked at enough Apollo photos to know that they are all official nasa's Apollo photos though and apparently some do contain anomalous objects .... But what some of these objects are , is hard to tell .

I know from past experience that trying to study Apollo photos using small images is akin to flogging a dead horse. You really do need to study the largest images you can find. 8"x10" glossies would be even better, but not wholly practical for our purposes.

I'm remaining very skeptical though - Jack's "mystery image" was clearly just the sunvisor pulled halfway down - but I shouldn't really dismiss everything he has to say on the strength of part of his evidence. If you can dig up some references numbers, cool.

Incidentally, there appears to be two forms of numbering convention for Apollo photos - the standard seems to be the one we are familiar with (Mission, Roll, Frame e.g. AS11-40-5903). The other numbering convention was just a lond number - you can still find some photos referenced that way. May be worth Googling the numbers to see what you come up with.

There was one photo which he misidentified in his book though ... He claims that nasa claims it was taken on the moon , when in fact it was a photo taken during a training session .... The appparent confusion was that this photo was produced in color showing the studio background and then at some point was produced and posted on a nasa site in black and white with a black curtain dropped in the background to cover the back wall of the studio .... and then was somehow misidentified as having been taken on the moon ... He thought that nasa was trying to pass off a studio photo as a moon photo .... and from looking at his other evidence, I doubt this was any slight of hand done by him intentionally.

Have to admit, as discussed on UM I initially thought he was being a little naughty i.e. downright deceptive here, but that's not the case. He has found two copies of a training photo, one in colour and one in black and white. I'm concerned to his motives as to why he claims that NASA say the B&W one was taken on the moon when clearly it wasn't. I'll probably give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Though it says a lot about his level of research - both you and I spotted that this was clearly an EVA rehearsal photo - if he spent two years investigating this, you would think he'd be more thorough.

Anyway, having had chance to mull this one over, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

But then as Charlies wrote in the beginning of his book .... "I doubt you will able to find some of these photos on the nasa sites after my book is published " .... I bet he's right about that !

If you've got the image numbers, no problem tracking them down. There's also the Wayback machine to check versions that have been scanned/cropped/processed differently.

So, track those numbers down, sniffer dog! :) Do you have a scanner? I may recognise which mission they're from which would speed things up.

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Dave ... Thanks for the info on the Wayback Machine ... That might be helpful in trying to track down some of Charlie's photo evidence ... A lot of the ID numbers look like this .... ID# 10074212 ... In this particular photo the "whiz kids" think they see a chicadee bird on the back wall of the Gemini 8 spacecraft being photographed in LEO ( according to nasa ) ... I'm not sure what the object is , but it doesn't look much like a bird to me .... Maybe you can find this photo and see what you think .

How do I go about finding these kind of numbers ? ... Will the wayback macine site link me to nasa photos with these type of numbers or is there another way I should go about finding them ?

I do have a scanner , so for the photos I can't find by number ( not all of them are numbered ) , I can post the book pages here , and we could go from there ... I could also scan some of the other pages as well , so there is no confusion as to what his claims really are about the such things as the moon rocks being faked .

Now I see why the ID numbers are so important ... and if Charlie had really done his homework properly , he would have written ALL of them down .... The AS numbers I will try track down myself , as these are some of the most interesting ... but if I need help I will let you know ....Then I will post the high resolution photos here for any that might show what Charlie and his kids believe to be amomalous ...

Would this Wayback machine be able to track down any earlier versions of the Apollo photos before they were possibly altered and any suppossed anomalies air brushed out ?

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Dave ... Thanks for the info on the Wayback Machine ... That might be helpful in trying to track down some of Charlie's photo evidence ... A lot of the ID numbers look like this .... ID# 10074212 ... In this particular photo the "whiz kids" think they see a chicadee bird on the back wall of the Gemini 8 spacecraft being photographed in LEO ( according to nasa ) ... I'm not sure what the object is , but it doesn't look much like a bird to me .... Maybe you can find this photo and see what you think .

This looks like the incorrect number. Do a quick Google - comes up with this image:-

10074212.jpg

How do I go about finding these kind of numbers ? ... Will the wayback macine site link me to nasa photos with these type of numbers or is there another way I should go about finding them ?
The Wayback machine simply links to URLs - so whatever the URL is for the image, that's how it will be stored.
I do have a scanner , so for the photos I can't find by number ( not all of them are numbered ) , I can post the book pages here , and we could go from there ... I could also scan some of the other pages as well , so there is no confusion as to what his claims really are about the such things as the moon rocks being faked .

Just be aware of copyright - NASA photos are public domain of course.

Now I see why the ID numbers are so important ... and if Charlie had really done his homework properly , he would have written ALL of them down
Absolutely.
.... The AS numbers I will try track down myself , as these are some of the most interesting ... but if I need help I will let you know ....Then I will post the high resolution photos here for any that might show what Charlie and his kids believe to be amomalous ...

Would this Wayback machine be able to track down any earlier versions of the Apollo photos before they were possibly altered and any suppossed anomalies air brushed out ?

Well, it currently has an archive of 85,000,000,000 objects, so there's a very good chance! Be careful what you mean by "anomalies" though. Look at the famous photo of Aldrin from Apollo 11. Several different "versions" stored on Wayback. Evidence of faked images? Nope. Evidence of different processing and differently cropped images? Yup.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.hq...s11-40-5903.jpg

Happy hunting!

More info on Wayback

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Well the fact that the number I gave you came up with the wrong photo is not a good thing .... Either Charlie got the number wrong or nasa has changed the numbers or deleted certain photos from their sites , just as Hawkins claimed would happen after his book came out .

In a few days I will scan a couple of the pages from his book about the lunar buggy and Hawkins' scientic proof of how it could not possibly have done what nasa claimed it did on the moon .... I don't think I would be abusing any copyright laws in doing that ... It's not like I'm claiming it to be my work or making money off of it .

I will also do some hunting for the ID numbers I think I might be able to find and also use the Wayback machine .

Please tell me exactly how you found the photo you did by the number I gave you , so I can do some of investigating on my own .... Did you just put the number into a google search ? ... It's not that I don't trust you Dave , but think about it like this ... If you should find a photo that nasa claims was taken on the moon , and in the photo was a black dog sitting on the lunar buggy or a chickadee perched on one of the spacecraft while suppossedly in LEO , or perhaps a fly system harness leaning up against the side of the LM while suppossedly sitting on the moon , would you really post those photos here for me to say .... I told you the Apollo photography was faked ! .. I don't think so .

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Well the fact that the number I gave you came up with the wrong photo is not a good thing .... Either Charlie got the number wrong or nasa has changed the numbers or deleted certain photos from their sites , just as Hawkins claimed would happen after his book came out .

Do you really think NASA are quaking in their boots at the release of this book? My guess is "they" are not even aware of it! I suspect it's a typo in Hawkins book.

In a few days I will scan a couple of the pages from his book about the lunar buggy and Hawkins' scientic proof of how it could not possibly have done what nasa claimed it did on the moon .... I don't think I would be abusing any copyright laws in doing that ... It's not like I'm claiming it to be my work or making money off of it .
Look forward to it.
Please tell me exactly how you found the photo you did by the number I gave you , so I can do some of investigating on my own .... Did you just put the number into a google search ? ... It's not that I don't trust you Dave , but think about it like this ... If you should find a photo that nasa claims was taken on the moon , and in the photo was a black dog sitting on the lunar buggy or a chickadee perched on one of the spacecraft while suppossedly in LEO , or perhaps a fly system harness leaning up against the side of the LM while suppossedly sitting on the moon , would you really post those photos here for me to say .... I told you the Apollo photography was faked ! .. I don't think so .

Just plugged the number straight into Google. I've also checked it using the Wayback machine.

Check out my post, right click the picture, select properties - it will show you the URL of the image, which includes the reference number you gave.

EDIT - check this bad boy out. Won't help with non-Apollo images, but every single Apollo Hasselblad image is cross-referenced with its associated TARGA reference number.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/byID.html

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I now have Charlie's book ... He obviously is not the same guy who wrote that disertation but he is a very real person with some pretty impressive credentials , and not someone else pretending to be him ...

He wrote his book after spending two years of investigating the Apollo Program , mostly online with a team of what he calls his "whiz kids " .... The book is a hoot ! ... It's mostly written for this team of kids for all the hard work they put into investigating the Apollo hoax ... The story goes like this ... He came home from work one day to find his son and some of his friends online discussing some of the moon hoax info and exclaiming that the Apollo astronauts never really went to he moon ! ... Charlie told them that they had to be kidding ? ... Of course the Apollo astronausts went to the moon ! ... Why would they think they hadn't ? .... Then the kids preceeded to show him some of the evidence they had found online showing that Apollo was a hoax .... Well, Charlie wasn't buying any of it , but he asked the kids if they would be interested in doing a project about it ... He told them if they really believed this wild claim to investigate it in depth and see what evidence they could come up with which would prove the Apollo photographs were not really taken on the moon or that the astronauts never really went there ...

So they started to look through hundreds of Apollo photos to see what anomalies they could find ... and boy did they find them ! ... But here is where Charlie's book gets pretty wild and silly , because the photos the kids came up with showed various different animals on the 'lunar' surface in the form of what are obvioulsy rocks and probably other misidentified objects ... The "bunnies in the clouds " thing ..... But here's where it gets better .... Charlie was so fascinated by what the kids were finding that he started to conduct his own investigation ... He studied thousands of Apollo photos , and didn't find animals but rather other anomalies such as torn spacesuits, astronaut dummies straped to lunar ladders and buggies , evidence of fly system harnesses ( like the one's they used in the practice sims ) propped up against the LM , fly system harness plugs and partial straps attached to the PLSS backpacks , which were not air brushed out of the photos , cryptic messages written in the 'lunar' soil, astronauts with open helmets ( Jack's "Mystery Image" is one of them ) and much more ....

The frustrating part is that the pictures in his book are very small and difficult at times to see these anomalies very clearly ... and even though he gives most of the photo numbers , they are numbers I don't recognize from the Apollo Image Gallery and some of them he warns would most likely be pulled from the nasa sites after the publication of his book .... I have looked at enough Apollo photos to know that they are all official nasa's Apollo photos though and apparently some do contain anomalous objects .... But what some of these objects are , is hard to tell .

There was one photo which he misidentified in his book though ... He claims that nasa claims it was taken on the moon , when in fact it was a photo taken during a training session .... The appparent confusion was that this photo was produced in color showing the studio background and then at some point was produced and posted on a nasa site in black and white with a black curtain dropped in the background to cover the back wall of the studio .... and then was somehow misidentified as having been taken on the moon ... He thought that nasa was trying to pass off a studio photo as a moon photo .... and from looking at his other evidence, I doubt this was any slight of hand done by him intentionally.

He also goes into much more than the amomalies in the Apollo photos and discusses different aspects of the Apollo hoax evidence that other conspiracy researchers have never gone into before .... He explains and even shows nasa training pictures of how 1/6 gravity was faked for the film footage by using fly systems rigged on walls ( not overhead ) and then the 'moon' was superimposed using blue screen imaging , how the LM really 'flew' , how early grid blue screen imaging was used to shoot some of the astronaut's still photos on the 'moon' ( and has pictures to prove this ) ... and that's as far as I've gotten so far ....

I will admit that a lot of what he put in his book was because his "whiz kids" found it .... but even with the silliness aside , Hawkins has brought up serious subjects and has put forth some very interesting hoax evidence .... But because of some of the adolescent 'evidence' , I can see why his book got such mixed reviews .

I plan to check out these photos in high resolution ... Even the one's where the kids think they saw dogs and cats and birds ( if I can find them ) and also see what I can turn up concerning some of his other hoax claims .... What fascinated me the most about the anomalous photos so far , were the two showing the fly system harnesses leaning up against the LM .... If he included the photo numbers in his book and if I can find them on the Apollo Image Gallery site , that would be quite a find indeed !

But then as Charlies wrote in the beginning of his book .... "I doubt you will able to find some of these photos on the nasa sites after my book is published " .... I bet he's right about that !

Duane...can you post images of some of his best discoveries?

Jack

Jack ... I plan to post a lot of Hawkins' discoveries here .. and if it's not breaking any copyright laws I will scan some of the book pages to show some the the photos he put in his book and also the text about the lunar buggy debacle.

I'm only half was through his book , but so far what has impressed me the most is his showing real Clementine photos of what the solar corona , Venus, Earth and the stars really look like from lunar orbit ( they are very different from the Apollo fakes ) ..... Also his scientific evidence of how the lunar buggy couldn't have possibly functioned or performed as nasa claimed it did on the 'moon' .... The photos which apparently show a fly harness leaning againt the LM on the 'moon' , and photos of astronauts showing the fly system straps hanging out from the sides of their PLSS packs . ( it looks like nasa forgot to air brush them out )

Of course the nasa defenders always have clever little answers for all of these anomalies because nasa has had plenty of time to correct their mistakes .... I have already found where nasa has changed the ID numbers or possibly altered or even pulled some of these photos from their web sites ... but there are still some intact in high defination which show the evidence of the fly system straps .

If I can't find some of the important photos on the nasa sites , I will scan some of the book pages to send to you in URL form via your e-mail ....

Hope you have a great holiday Jack !

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Well , it's not exactly any kind of tradition bio , but I will post verbatum what he wrote in his book about his education , scientific qualifications and current research ... He mentions several schools , so maybe someone can at least verify his education ... He does seem to be one elusive fellow though and I believe he has been confused with other people at times .... Possibly Stephen Hawkings .

I am on my way out for dinner in a few minutes , so I will post this info in the next couple of days when I have a bit more time .

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