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Paul, a quick review of SSA reports and you will quickly discover there is no consensus among the agents attached to KENNEDYS as to number of shots, type of sound each shot made, when shots occurred or wounds caused by shots.

There is NO identification of location of origin for shots. TEN professionally trained body guards / agents were unable to identify location where "three" shots from a high powered rifle originated from. (TO THEIR CREDIT: NOT ONE OF THESE AGENTS CLAIMED ANY SHOT CAME FROM A BUILDING!)

This is not ten incompetent men, this is ten competent men omitting and twisting evidence to attain support in a lie.

Witnesses that were near the limo were able to identify the grassy knoll as the location for the shot that caused the fatal head wound, they also had no problem with the timing of shots, the sounds they made or results of the shots and identification of a shooter, some even indicated the locations of the limo at the time of various shots and the motion of the limo. Bystanders provided more valuable information concerning the assassination than government employees.

Anyone doing a serious analysis of the assassination would do well if they did not consider the information provided by governmental or news media sources until they understood how the assassination occurred, then it becomes very self-evident as to how the truth was twisted by these two groups of witnesses.

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Jim Marrs, makes a remark at 15:20 concerning HOOVER (of all people!!!) despising bedroom antics of the KENNEDYS.

I would like to know if there is any absolute solid evidence that KENNEDY cheated on JACKIE while President and with who.

Books written after his murder claiming first hand knowledge or hearsay can be funded by CIA or get rich schemes at the expense of KENNEDYS integrity.

I find it difficult, no impossible to believe KENNEDY would be so stupid as to have sexual affairs with the full knowledge that HOOVER had spies watching for behaviors that could be used for blackmail.

KENNEDY had made enemies everywhere, he was not a stupid or careless person.

I call B.S.

'JFK Assassination: Nothing but the Truth' - maybe more like nothing but B.S.

Can anyone put up evidence or will we be able to dispense with the KENNEDY bashing that only diminishes his legacy.

Is there anything of value in ''JFK Assassination: Nothing but the Truth" or is it primarily B.S.?

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27:25 I have had enough

Made for TV consumption... B.S.

Jim Marrs points out in ALTGENS 6 that the SSA in VP follow-up car can be seen reacting to the shots.

This is absolutely false, Mr. Marrs do you really understand what happened during the assassination?

Marrs neglects to mention that ALTGENS 6 was taken at ~Z-255, which according to the WC/R playbook was over 3-5 second after shot number 1 and a second or more after shot number 2. Shame on you Marrs for insinuating that a shot had just been fired and photo depicts the agents immediately start to react.

Proofs have been provided in another thread that the doors of the follow-up car remained open during the motorcade and absolutely remained open as the vp follow-up car entered DP and was traveling up Houston Street.

Here is THE PROOF of when VP agents reacted to the sound of the first high powered rifle shot!

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Few readers here would disagree with you that there were more than three shots, and some or all came from the grassy knoll. That is how it happened. Who did it and why?

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When traveling in a hardtop in a motorcade, SS bodyguards traveled with the door open, to cut down on their reaction times. There is footage of the LBJ back-up car in the motorcade long before they reached Dealey...with the door open.

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Pat, I posted three photographs of the VP follow up car illustrating back door open.

1 On elm where the left rear door is wide open where the motorcade stopped and the SSA are reacting to the first HPR shot they heard.

2 On Houston

3 Some where previous to entering DP

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Paul it is apparently important to you to define who murdered JFK, for me James Douglass in 'JFK and the Unspeakable ' provides an overview that satisfied my curiosity.

IMO - Powers that aligned against KENNEDY utilized the CIA to plan the assassination, elements of the mafia in Dallas were utilized as local support, the most capable snipers they could purchase took the shots. LBJ, NIXON and HOOVER at least agreed with the removal of KENNEDY from office by force. LBJ covered it up. HOOVER took care of the details.

The exact cast of characters may never be known.

What is important to me is to wake people up to the fact that citizens cannot trust government or its tool the media.

That we lost our sovereignty when we allowed 'them' to murder Our President without consequences.

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Altgens #6 iconic photograph depicts a moment in time while the assassination was progressing.

We can clearly determine KENNEDY has been wounded by a bullet, his actions have drawn the attention of three motorcycle police, three SSA and JACKIE, we can see CONNALLY is turned sideways in his seat and three SSA are turned away from the limo.

From this evidence we have been convinced that two shots have been fired and actions are in reaction to hearing these shots, yet there is not a bystander that has reacted, as a matter of fact we can easily determine that people are still watching the motorcade undisturbed by the sound of gunfire or unexpected noises, we can even see the hands of BREHM on the right, he is applauding the approach of the limo.

We know from testimony that agents assigned to the VP went into action at the sound of the very first shot by exiting the follow-up vehicle as well as getting the occupants of the VP car to duck down, yet in this photo which was captured a long while after supposedly a second shot had sounded there is no discernable actions or reaction, as a matter of fact we can see LADY BIRD sitting and smiling in the back seat.

We allowed ourselves to be persuaded as to what a photograph depicts but have never considered the entire content of what the photograph contains or whether or not it correlates to any other evidence.

It is clear that this photograph does not depict the response to two or even one shot from a high powered rifle, rather it depicts a scene where there is a limited reaction to odd behavior of KENNEDY.

We allowed the news media and the government to convince us of what we should be seeing without the benefit of looking ourselves. We will even use the conclusion provided to us proclaimed as truth to build our case of conspiracy using 'their' interpretation of what is depicted. We have been isolated into 'their' world of fiction which was conceived in deception and have not yet awakened to reality. Is it not time to wake up and see?

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Kathy, sorry it has taken so long to post a reply.

Thank you for reading the posts and for questioning what is being posted.

The attempt was to show those interested that because of propaganda we accepted that ALTGENS 6 depicts a scene where two shots from a high powered rifle have sounded and that the SSA are seen reacting to gunfire.

When ALTGENS 6 photo is analyzed what is evident is that testimony does not correlate to what is happening in this photo, not just some testimony virtually all testimony.

Such as the reactions claimed by SSA and politicians traveling in VP car and VP follow-up car, should be evident in this photograph and they are not. This means the timing of this photograph is not what has been proclaimed.. Two shots from a high powered rifle have not yet occurred or even one shot from a high powered rifle.

Absolute proof has previously been posted that the first shot made a soft pop or small firecracker like sound that can be seen to catch the attention of four SSA but they ultimately did not realize this was an indication of an attack on the President and that even JACKIE sitting next to KENNEDY did not realize an assassination attempt was underway, JACKIE did not hear this first sound or realize it had injured her husband. The first high powered rifle shot occurs around Z-313 which was the cause of the fatal head wound, then two more HPR shots followed, this IS the three HPR shots we have been convinced started with the neck wound and ended with the head wound.

The problem is JFK researchers have been conditioned to believe otherwise and have not yet been able to recognize the truth even though no researcher has argued with the evidence that has been posted as proofs of the reality of four shot theory of the assassination.

Kathy, the assassination consisted of four shots, first shot had a 'firecracker' like sound and caused the throat wound, this shot occurred around Z-190, second shot occurred around Z-313 and was a high powered rifle and caused the fatal head wound, this shot was heard by every witness in DP and then two more shots from a high powered rifle followed. This is the truth. The assassination consisted of four shots not three. That the last shot was not the fatal head shot, this was the first shot from a high powered rifle, essentially the media was successful in changing the timing of the assassination and the number of shots that occurred.

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Kathy, please don't give up on understanding the differences between scenarios.

Let me give you the two scenarios.

1) Propaganda created by WC/R & news media to explain the assassination -> 'three shot scenario theory'

Exactly three shots were fired, all of them coming from a high powered rifle, positioned in the TSBD sixth floor window.

Time of first shot - uncertain - no earlier than when JFK is obscured by road sign

Time of second shot - uncertain -

Time of third shot - Z-313 - cause the fatal head wound

Time to fire the three shots, some time over 5 seconds, maybe as much as 8 or 9 seconds.

Injuries incurred per shot or missile:

JFK - Head

JFK - Back wound / Throat wound & CONNALLY Back, chest, wrist & leg

TAGUE - cheek

The only point of agreement within this theory about the wounds is one missile caused the fatal head wound and this occurred at frame Z-313.

There has been continuous speculation since the assassination as to which bullet struck TAGUE and which bullet caused the seven injuries to JFK and CONNALLY and when these first two shots occurred / which shot occured first and which shot was second.

Sound of the shots

All of the shots must have sounded exactly the same, although a small number of witnesses reported some of the shots to sound like a 'noise' or 'firecracker' or a 'backfire' and various other descriptions. The differences in sounds is attributed to perception, surprise or maybe location within Dealey Plaza.

The location of the sniper according to witness accounts could not definitively be determined by 4-600 witnesses present, only about three people reported seeing a man in the sixth floor window and a few more reported maybe seeing a barrel of a rifle. The SSA did not report a location for the rifle fire and no agent claimed the TSBD location to be the source. A number of witnesses that thought the shots may have come from the TSBD claimed the building in general to be the source, virtually no portions of the building is singled out or identified, such as upper floors or lower floors or East side or West or any particular window or roof, an exact location or even general location remained nebulous or undefined.

The WC/R theorized the first shot to have occured sometime 5-9 seconds prior to the fatal head shot at Z-313 and the third and final shot to occur at exactly frame Z-313.

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2) 'Four shot assassination scenario model'

Exactly four shots were fired, the first shot coming from a silenced weapon, this weapon more likely was a rifle utilizing compressed gas, created for stealth or assassination, compressed gas weapons have been used in combat since the 15th century. This weapon made a slight popping sound, described by a small number of witnesses that detected the sound of this first shot to be a 'noise' or 'firecracker' like, the overwhelming majority of witnesses did not detect this sound, there is also a defined pattern for the locations of witnesses that reported hearing this sound stretching on a narrow band from the triple over pass to limo to TSBD. About 11 or so witness actually heard this sound. No witness, SSA or bystander comprehended that this was the start of the attack on KENNEDY or that this shot injured KENNEDY, this includes MRS. KENNEDY who may be seen in Altgens #6, holding onto JFKs elbow and in frame Z-255 (taken at the about same moment of Altgens #6 from a different angle) looking toward CONNALLY puzzled by his antics or remarks he is making.

The second shot occurs at about Z-313 and is the first high powered rifle shot, this shot is heard by everyone in DP and reported by at least two witnesses located two blocks away as well as 20 sheriff deputies stationed outside of DP, this shot caused the fatal head wound.

At the sound of this shot the motorcade came to a momentary halt, this is when the agents in the VP car and VP follow-up car reacted to protect the VP, this shot came at about Z-313, this is why the actions claimed are not visible in Altgens #6, because Altgens #6 is taken prior to the first high powered rifle shot and the actions that occurred afterwards in the VP and VP follow-up cars have not yet occurred. At the sound of the first high powered rifle shot is also the moment that agent READY reacted to move to protect KENNEDY but was recalled by agent ROBERTS, HILL had already been moving to the limo just prior to Z-313 and reached the limo just after the fatal head wound occurred.

The third shot occurs at Z-325, is also a high powered rifle shot and strikes CONNALLY in the back causing five wounds.

Fourth shot is also from a high powered rifle and ricochets off a curb causing debris to nick TAGUES chin.

The WC/R merely disregarded the fact that the first shot actually made a different sound than the other shots, then moved the first shot that came from a high powered rifle, the cause of the fatal head wound to BE the first shot and have caused seven wound to JFK & CONNALLY or the shot that injured TAGUE... then the third shot to definitively have caused the fatal head wound.

The WC/R proclaimed that the last shot caused the fatal head wound and disregarded witness accounts that claimed the first shot heard caused the fatal head wound and that two shots followed.

The WC/R utilized witness accounts of JFK 'slumping' as a result of the fatal head wound to be reinterpreted as JFK 'slumped' as a result of the shot to his back.

The reality is no one, NO ONE recognized JFK was injured by the first shot, three witnesses recorded seeing JFK jump as if in surprise at the 'firecracker' like sound. Proof of no comprehension is at least four people continue to applaud the President until Z-313, including BREHM who is located a few feet from the limo as it passed by him just before the fatal head wound occurred and Altgens #6 where there is not any witness that can be identified to appear to have reacted to ANY gunfire.

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