Pat Speer Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 [quote name='Pamela McElwain-Brown' date='Nov 27 2008, 02:18 AM' post='158978' What information did you use to come up with your assumption? At what Z frame are you placing the Moorman? Z-315. While JFK's head jerks slightly forward and then back between 312 and 315, I don't believe there's much of a jerk towards the left. The HSCA trajectory analysis, which had lots of problems, determined he was leaning 25 degrees to his left in 312. I believe that's the one thing it got right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim Dankbaar Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Chief Curry, you stupid! If you had lived long enough to see Mack's "scientific" program, you would not have said these dumb things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtlkyCDRzU Anyway, rest in peace, chief! And the rest of the world: Go to sleep too! Wim Edited November 28, 2008 by Wim Dankbaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Chief Curry, you stupid! If you had lived long enough to see Mack's "scientific" program, you would not have said these dumb things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtlkyCDRzU Anyway, rest in peace, chief! And the rest of the world: Go to sleep too! Wim As Chief Curry says, you would think that from a common sense blood splatter analysis, you would think that the head shot originated from the front. I think the Discovery Channell will repeat the program tomorrow - Dec 1. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Chief Curry, you stupid! If you had lived long enough to see Mack's "scientific" program, you would not have said these dumb things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtlkyCDRzU Anyway, rest in peace, chief! And the rest of the world: Go to sleep too! Wim As Chief Curry says, you would think that from a common sense blood splatter analysis, you would think that the head shot originated from the front. I think the Discovery Channell will repeat the program tomorrow - Dec 1. BK Wonder if they will have edited out any of the major gaffes, such as the incorrect position of JFK and Jackie at what they claim Z312 would be, plus falsely claiming the SS photos were taken at 1 a.m. 11.22.63, or disclosing that the M/C bullets did not fragment. But wait, they can't edit out the shots from the SN that blow away the top of the dummy's skull, which contradicts existing medical evidence-- they would have no show left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 [quote name='Pamela McElwain-Brown' date='Nov 27 2008, 02:18 AM' post='158978'What information did you use to come up with your assumption? At what Z frame are you placing the Moorman? Z-315. While JFK's head jerks slightly forward and then back between 312 and 315, I don't believe there's much of a jerk towards the left. The HSCA trajectory analysis, which had lots of problems, determined he was leaning 25 degrees to his left in 312. I believe that's the one thing it got right. HSCA operated under the false axiom that the WCR was 'correct'. Therefore, you cannot trust any of its information to be true. Their determination seems to be an attempt to reconcile the differences between the Z312 position and that of the WCR. Your thought that Moorman equals Z-315 is incorrect also. Kellerman is facing Moorman in the shot, and facing Zapruder at Z315. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 HSCA operated under the false axiom that the WCR was 'correct'. Therefore, you cannot trust any of its information to be true. Their determination seems to be an attempt to reconcile the differences between the Z312 position and that of the WCR.Your thought that Moorman equals Z-315 is incorrect also. Kellerman is facing Moorman in the shot, and facing Zapruder at Z315. I just looked at the Moorman photo and Kellerman is not looking at Moorman. And if not at 315, then at what frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 HSCA operated under the false axiom that the WCR was 'correct'. Therefore, you cannot trust any of its information to be true. Their determination seems to be an attempt to reconcile the differences between the Z312 position and that of the WCR.Your thought that Moorman equals Z-315 is incorrect also. Kellerman is facing Moorman in the shot, and facing Zapruder at Z315. I just looked at the Moorman photo and Kellerman is not looking at Moorman. And if not at 315, then at what frame? He is looking toward Moorman, perhaps at Greer; certainly not toward Zapruder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Agbat Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 HSCA operated under the false axiom that the WCR was 'correct'. Therefore, you cannot trust any of its information to be true. Their determination seems to be an attempt to reconcile the differences between the Z312 position and that of the WCR.Your thought that Moorman equals Z-315 is incorrect also. Kellerman is facing Moorman in the shot, and facing Zapruder at Z315. I just looked at the Moorman photo and Kellerman is not looking at Moorman. And if not at 315, then at what frame? I think it is generally regarded that the Moorman photo is very close to Z317. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry J.Dean Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Chief Curry, you stupid! If you had lived long enough to see Mack's "scientific" program, you would not have said these dumb things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtlkyCDRzU Anyway, rest in peace, chief! And the rest of the world: Go to sleep too! Wim As Chief Curry says, you would think that from a common sense blood splatter analysis, you would think that the head shot originated from the front. I think the Discovery Channell will repeat the program tomorrow - Dec 1. BK Hi, Bill The show did replay here tonight Dec 1. I caught most of it. My Son who has 'little interest' watched the entire show. He later said "why did'nt that dude Gary mention the obvious throat shot shown at the start of the film"? I have to ask, why Chief Curry's statement was not mentioned {from his book} "there is no one that can place Oswald with a rifle in that window" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) "Your thought that Moorman equals Z-315 is incorrect also. Kellerman is facing Moorman in the shot, and facing Zapruder at Z315." Kellerman is facing straight ahead in Moorman I think you will find. In fact, in Moorman, he appears to have a phone in his left hand. Jack I don't know why the image appears twice. Edited December 2, 2008 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Speaking of Kellerman, here is an odd sequence in Nix. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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