Andric Perez Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Vincent Scalice was the NYPD Fingerprint Expert hired by the HSCA. In 1993, while employed as consultant to the PBS documentary "Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?" Scalice claimed to have found 18 points of identity between photographs of the Mannlicher Carcano's trigger housing and a fingerprint card known to be Oswald's. This opinion is touted by LN such as Gary Savage and Vincent Bugliosi (In his book Reclaiming History); however, both fail to mention that a separate fingerprinting expert and consultant to the same documentary (George Bonebrake) could not find sufficient matching points to reach a conclusion. In their minds, George Bonebrake doesn't exist. Here are Bonebrake's qualifications, according to the book Forensic Evidence, Science and the Criminal Law," by Terrence F. Kiely: "George Bonebrake, a latent fingerprint examiner, testified that he worked for the FBI from 1941 to 1978, that during his last three years with the FBI, he was in charge of its latent print section, supervising 100 examiners and 65 support people, and was currently in private practice." How Scalice saw what the legendary Bonebrake couldn't see is a question that needs to be answered. What enhancing methods were used by Scalice and Bonebrake? Is one method superior to the other? Did they both use the same process and reach ed a different conclusion? Scalice is also known for endorsing the kooky conspiracy theory that Vincent Foster's suicide note was forged. Foster worked in Bill Clinton's staff before committing suicide in 1993. Scalice and two other examiners were hired for their analysis by the Western Journalism Center, a group financed by the ultra-rightwing Clinton hater Richard Melon Scaiffe, and co-founded by Joseph Farah (founder of the right-wing WorldnetDaily website and still unconvinced that Obama's birth certificate is genuine). For Farah's views on birtherism see this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42786288/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/publisher-upcoming-birther-book-makes-no-apologies/ Scalice's conclusion is seriously undermined by the fact that "three separate handwriting analyses were performed -- one by the Capitol Police and two by the FBI lab -- comparing the note to three different sets of samples of known handwriting of Vince Foster. Each of the three analyses concluded the handwriting was Foster's. link: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/icreport/final/v3e.pdf In light of the above, I would like to ask Scalice-worshipping LN if they endorsed Scalice's conclusion on the suicide note and whether you think his handling of that case undermines his overall credibility. Edited June 23, 2011 by Andric Perez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hogan Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Vincent Scalice was the NYPD Fingerprint Expert hired by the HSCA. In 1993, while employed as consultant to the PBS documentary "Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?" Scalice claimed to have found 18 points of identity between photographs of the Mannlicher Carcano's trigger housing and a fingerprint card known to be Oswald's. This opinion is touted by LN such as Gary Savage and Vincent Bugliosi (In his book Reclaiming History); however, both fail to mention that a separate fingerprinting expert and consultant to the same documentary (George Bonebrake) could not find sufficient matching points to reach a conclusion. In their minds, George Bonebrake doesn't exist. Here are Bonebrake's qualifications, according to the book Forensic Evidence, Science and the Criminal Law," by Terrence F. Kiely: "George Bonebrake, a latent fingerprint examiner, testified that he worked for the FBI from 1941 to 1978, that during his last three years with the FBI, he was in charge of its latent print section, supervising 100 examiners and 65 support people, and was currently in private practice." How Scalice saw what Bonebrake couldn't see is a question that needs to be answered. What enhancing methods were used by Scalice and Bonebrake? Is one method superior to the other? Did they both use the same process and reach ed a different conclusion? Scalice is also known for endorsing the kooky conspiracy theory that Vincent Foster's suicide note was forged. Foster worked in Bill Clinton's staff before committing suicide in 1993. Scalice and two other examiners were hired for their analysis by the Western Journalism Center, a group financed by the ultra-rightwing Clinton hater Richard Melon Scaiffe, and co-founded by Joseph Farah (founder of the right-wing WorldnetDaily website and still unconvinced that Obama's birth certificate is genuine). For Farah's views on birtherism see this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42786288/ns/politics-decision_2012/t/publisher-upcoming-birther-book-makes-no-apologies/ Scalice's conclusion is seriously undermined by the fact that "three separate handwriting analyses were performed -- one by the Capitol Police and two by the FBI lab -- comparing the note to three different sets of samples of known handwriting of Vince Foster. Each of the three analyses concluded the handwriting was Foster's. link: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/icreport/final/v3e.pdf In light of the above, I would like to ask Scalice-worshipping LN if they endorsed Scalice's conclusion on the suicide note and whether you think his handling of that case undermines his overall credibility. George Bonebrake examined prints allegedly belonging to James Earl Ray and submitted an affidavit to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia: http://register.shelby.tn.us/media/mlk/mlkviewimage.php?imgtype=pdfℑ=ray_material_2011-02-08/attorney_general_file/microfilm_images/000647ag11.tif# From Time Magazine, July 5, 1968: An FBI fingerprint expert testified that there were at least eleven points of similarity between the prints belonging to. Ray and those of the man held in London as Ramon George Sneyd. Ray's prints, said FBI Agent George Bonebrake, were on a rifle and telescopic sight abandoned in a store doorway near the shooting and also on binoculars wrapped with the weapon. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,941604,00.html Edited June 23, 2011 by Michael Hogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Vincent Scalice was the NYPD Fingerprint Expert hired by the HSCA. In 1993, while employed as consultant to the PBS documentary "Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?" Scalice claimed to have found 18 points of identity between photographs of the Mannlicher Carcano's trigger housing and a fingerprint card known to be Oswald's. This opinion is touted by LN such as Gary Savage and Vincent Bugliosi (In his book Reclaiming History); however, both fail to mention that a separate fingerprinting expert and consultant to the same documentary (George Bonebrake) could not find sufficient matching points to reach a conclusion. In their minds, George Bonebrake doesn't exist. Here are Bonebrake's qualifications, according to the book Forensic Evidence, Science and the Criminal Law," by Terrence F. Kiely: "George Bonebrake, a latent fingerprint examiner, testified that he worked for the FBI from 1941 to 1978, that during his last three years with the FBI, he was in charge of its latent print section, supervising 100 examiners and 65 support people, and was currently in private practice." How Scalice saw what Bonebrake couldn't see is a question that needs to be answered. What enhancing methods were used by Scalice and Bonebrake? Is one method superior to the other? Did they both use the same process and reach ed a different conclusion? Scalice is also known for endorsing the kooky conspiracy theory that Vincent Foster's suicide note was forged. Foster worked in Bill Clinton's staff before committing suicide in 1993. Scalice and two other examiners were hired for their analysis by the Western Journalism Center, a group financed by the ultra-rightwing Clinton hater Richard Melon Scaiffe, and co-founded by Joseph Farah (founder of the right-wing WorldnetDaily website and still unconvinced that Obama's birth certificate is genuine). For Farah's views on birtherism see this: http://www.msnbc.msn...s-no-apologies/ Scalice's conclusion is seriously undermined by the fact that "three separate handwriting analyses were performed -- one by the Capitol Police and two by the FBI lab -- comparing the note to three different sets of samples of known handwriting of Vince Foster. Each of the three analyses concluded the handwriting was Foster's. link: http://www.gpoaccess...t/final/v3e.pdf In light of the above, I would like to ask Scalice-worshipping LN if they endorsed Scalice's conclusion on the suicide note and whether you think his handling of that case undermines his overall credibility. George Bonebrake examined prints allegedly belonging to James Earl Ray and submitted an affidavit to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia: http://register.shel...000647ag11.tif# From Time Magazine, July 5, 1968: An FBI fingerprint expert testified that there were at least eleven points of similarity between the prints belonging to. Ray and those of the man held in London as Ramon George Sneyd. Ray's prints, said FBI Agent George Bonebrake, were on a rifle and telescopic sight abandoned in a store doorway near the shooting and also on binoculars wrapped with the weapon. http://www.time.com/...,941604,00.html Quote "Bonebrake" unquote, is also referenced in Orlando Bosch Avila's involvement with the British vessel the Lancastrian Prince, circa 1968....... http://www.maryferre...367&relPageId=7 Edited June 23, 2011 by Robert Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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