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#1 Steven Gaal

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 07:21 PM

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The James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) is funded by a high-level agent of the U.S. military industrial complex. 

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The Randi "educational" foundation's financial connection to major U.S. military contractors explains why the JREF is so hostile to 9-11 truth.  The JREF is actually headquartered in the same building as General Dynamics - at 2941 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 105, Falls Church, Virginia.

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A xxxx AND A CHEAT - Who is this depraved man and why is he supporting the official lies about what happened on 9-11?

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WHO IS RANDI JAMES AND WHY IS HE OPPOSED TO 9-11 TRUTH?

"The Amazing Randi", (a.k.a. James Randi, born Randall James Hamilton Zwinge, August 7, 1928) is a Canadian-American stage magician and scientific skeptic, according to Wikipedia, "best known for his challenges to paranormal claims and pseudoscience."

Randi is also the founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), which is supposedly engaged in investigating paranormal, occult, and supernatural claims.  Often called a "debunker", Randi prefers to describe himself as an "investigator."

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THE BANNER OF DEPRAVED LIARS - The JREF forum spends a great deal of time attacking me with slanderous comments meant to discredit me and my 9-11 research.  The comments are all written in proper English with correct punctuation, a good indication that the writers are professional disinfo agents.

One thing the JREF seems to specialize in is attacking the 9-11 truth movement and honest investigators like myself.  I recently came across a discussion forum from the JREF website where the anonymous posters who are members of the JREF forum discuss me in a way that is clearly designed to smear my name and discredit my research.  The heading for this discussion is "Why isn't Chris Bollyn a huge story in the conspiracy world?"  

The final comment by "Triterope", the poster who began the discussion, begins with these unkind words, which reveal how he really feels about me and my 9-11 research:

I know I shouldn't care about Chris Bollyn's drivel, but stuff like this makes me want to puke every time I read it:

Originally Posted by Christopher Bollyn
In a letter to Paul P. Moreschi, my second legal counsel, Dr. Shelton wrote: "Now I understand why Helje (Mrs. Bollyn) stated to me she is more afraid of living in this country now than she was under Soviet occupation of Estonia. Seeing your husband viciously attacked by undercover police without warning on your own property, then hearing them make false statements on the stand, seeing them falsify their records, hearing the prosecutor fabricating defamatory baseless statements, and then the judge and jury believing this story, would do this to you."

You know what, Chris? If America is worse than life in a Soviet satellite republic, LEAVE. Get the hell out of this country...

What I have found in more than 12 years of 9-11 research is that most people are supportive of truth-seekers like myself who have spent years of their lives investigating what really happened on 9-11.  The only people who spend their time attacking and slandering me like "Triterope" are paid disinfo agents.  To support the official lies about the mass murder and terrorism of 9-11 is utterly depraved and evil.  People like "Triterope" and James Randi have sold their souls to the master of deception.

In the following video, "Interview with James Randi on 9-11," Randi criticizes 9-11 truth seekers and claims to be an expert in deception. "As a magician, I know about deception.  I know two things with great certainty: how people are fooled, and more importantly, how they fool themselves. And that is my expertise."  His scathing criticism of 9-11 truth seekers, which he describes as crazy, stupid, and silly, and his support for the unproven official version of what caused the Twin Towers to fall strongly suggest that he is being paid to promote the government lies about 9-11.


Video Link - youtu.be/mXZjjBeC8bw

To understand the relationship between James Randi and military contractors like General Dynamics, we need to look at how his foundation was created and where it is based.  The following is from the Wikipedia article on the JREF:

The JREF officially came into existence on February 29, 1996, when it was registered as a nonprofit corporation in the State of Delaware in the United States. On April 3, 1996 Randi formally announced the creation of the JREF through his email hotline:

“THE FOUNDATION IS IN BUSINESS! It is my great pleasure to announce the creation of the James Randi Educational Foundation. This is a non-profit, tax-exempt, educational foundation under Section 501©3 of the Internal Revenue Code, incorporated in the State of Delaware. The Foundation is generously funded by a sponsor in Washington D.C. who wishes, at this point in time, to remain anonymous. ”

— The Foundation, Randi Hotline, Wed, April 3, 1996

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We now know that the millionaire sponsor of the JREF is Richard L. Adams Jr., the former computer programmer for SAIC and DARPA's Center for Seismic Studies. Adams started as a programmer for San Diego-based Science Application International Corp. (SAIC) and went on to a position as a data-gathering specialist with the Center for Seismic Studies, an outfit hired by the U.S. Department of Defense to develop technology for nuclear testing violation detection.

Adams is famous for his role in developing UUNet, a backbone of the Internet, which was bought in 1996 by MFS Communications, formerly Kiewit Communications, which was then bought by MCI, which then went out of business in a huge bankruptcy case. MFS Communications began in 1988 as a wholly owned subsidiary of Kiewit Diversified Group Inc., which in turn was a wholly owned subsidiary of Peter Kiewit Sons' Inc., one of the largest construction and mining companies in the United States. The Kiewit family of Omaha does a great deal of business with the U.S. military. 

Adams took UUNet public in 1995, and a year later agreed to a $2 billion buyout offer from MFS Communications, which was acquired by WorldCom shortly thereafter. An instant millionaire from the sale of UUNet, in 1996, Rick Adams donated one million dollars to the James Randi Educational Foundation and he has served as the treasurer of the tax-exempt "educational" foundation ever since.

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Richard L. Adams Jr. is the millionaire sponsor of the JREF. He is also the landlord of General Dynamics corporate headquarters, which is his main tenant and occupies half of his building. 

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The JREF is located in Suite 105 of the 2941 Fairview Park Drive building, which is the business office of Rick Adams' 2941 Fairview Park Drive, LLC, who is the legal owner of the building. Adams' biggest tenant is General Dynamics, whose corporate headquarters leases half the building and has their main office just down the hall from Adams' office - in Suite 100.

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The JREF tax filing for 2012 shows Rick Adams as unpaid treasurer of the foundation. Why would a millionaire businessman give his time and name to a bogus educational foundation run by a former stage magician who is strongly opposed to 9-11 truth?

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The James Randi Educational Foundation, Inc. is registered at 2941Fairview Park Drive, in Suite 105.  This is also the registered address of the owner of the building, 2941 Fairview Park Drive, LLC, as well as several other companies associated with Rick Adams:  2900 Fairview Park Drive, LLC; 2941 Fairview, LLC; 2941, LLC; Fairview Property Development, LLC; Jose Alvarez Art Studio, LLC; and Northeast Quadrant Owners Association.

As the Washington real estate news website Bisnow.com reported in 2008, "We had lunch last week with David Orr at that great 2941 restaurant in Fairview Park, and he seemed to know everyone who passed. Maybe that's because he built the building five years ago and even negotiated General Dynamics' 15-year lease for half the 390k SF space... Dave built the 2941 building for UUNet founder Rick Adams in 2001: a $36M building on spec, part of 1.5M buildable SF Adams bought in Fairview Park." 


Rick Adams' 2941 Fairview Park Drive building is corporate headquarters for General Dynamics, a leading defense contractor controlled by the Crown family of Chicago.  General Dynamics and the Crown family have a vested interest in supporting the lies about 9-11: they profit greatly from the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan and the fraudulent "War on Terror."  To understand the Crown family's relationship to the 9-11 cover-up, I recommend reading my article,"JFK and 9-11: Henry Crown and the Cover-Ups of Our Time".

I called Rick Adams to ask about his relationship with the JREF but he refused to discuss it and hung up the phone.  I also called Daniel W. Denman, who works as a Director in the Division of Information Technology at the University of Maryland, but he also refused to discuss his role as a director and unpaid secretary of the JREF.  These men have a good reason for not wanting to discuss their work with the James Randi Educational Foundation with me - they know that they are involved in a very evil project to deceive the public about what really happened on 9-11.  To be involved in such an evil deception should make them wonder what they value in this life.

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Sources and Recommended Reading:

"GMAC Commercial Mortgage Arranges $74 Million Loan on Trophy Office Tower in Falls Church, Va.", BusinessWire.com, September 13, 2004 
www.businesswire.com/news/home/20040913005635/en/GMAC-Commercial-Mortgage-Arranges-74-Million-Loan#.Uu4r8PvAiZR

"James Randi," Wikipedia, February 4, 2014
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi

"James Randi Educational Foundation," Wikipedia, February 4, 2014
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi_Educational_Foundation 

List of companies registered at 2941 Fairview Park Drive, Falls Church, VA
www.bizapedia.com/addresses/2941-FAIRVIEW-PARK-DR-FALLS-CHURCH-VA-22042.html

"MFS Communications Company, Inc. History," FundingUniverse.com, February 4, 2014
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/mfs-communications-company-inc-history/ 

"Richard L Adams," Encyclopedia of Ecommerce, February 4, 2014
ecommerce.hostip.info/pages/2/Adams-Richard-L.html
 

"Rick Adams," Wikipedia, February 4, 2014
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Adams_%28internet_pioneer%29

"The Biggest Developer You've Never Heard Of", Bisnow.com, January 28, 2008
www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/washington-dc/the-biggest-developer-youve-never-heard-of/

"Why isn't Chris Bollyn a huge story in the conspiracy world?" forum discussion started by Triterope, James Randi Educational Foundation forum, under 9/11 Conspiracy Theories, June 26, 2007
67.228.115.45/showthread.php  

Articles by Christopher Bollyn about the Crown family and General Dynamics:

“Chicago's Elders of Zion and Obama's War for Profit” by Christopher Bollyn, October 14, 2011
http://www.bollyn.com/chicagos-elders-of-zion-and-obamas-war-for-profit/

“James Crown: The Israeli Connection in the Madoff Scam” by Christopher Bollyn, October 26, 2013
http://www.bollyn.com/14419/

“JFK and 9-11: Henry Crown and the Cover-Ups of Our Time” by Christopher Bollyn, November 7, 2013
http://www.bollyn.com/jfk-and-9-11-henry-crown-and-the-cover-ups-of-our-time/

“The Crown Family Connections to the Kennedy Assassinations” by Christopher Bollyn, November 21, 2013
http://www.bollyn.com/the-crown-family-connections-to-the-kennedy-assassinations/


Edited by Steven Gaal, 29 October 2014 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 03:28 AM

Nothing more than a desperate attempt at character assassination, long on paranoid speculation but lacking any sort of evidence or logic. So JREF's HQ (little more than a mailing address I expect) is in the same building as a major military contractor,  this is somehow supposed to falsify the info generated by the people who post on its forum? If Simkin's next door neighbor was a child murderer/rapist or worse yet a high-level intel agent would that somehow impugn people who post here?

 

Bollyn is hardly one to throw stones, he was for a long time closely professionally associated with Wills Carto who until he died was one of the US's leading neo-Nazis/white supremacists/Holocaust deniers. He got fired by his Nazi buddies for "filing false stories" He is (or was) fugitive from justice who lied during his trial for assaulting cops



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 03:32 AM

Tuesday, October 6, 2009
 

 

CIA/Media War Against 9/11 & CIA Assassination "Conspiracy Theorists": The BBC, Amazing Pederast James Randi and CIA Mind Control
 
From: BBC Attack Piece Promotes Cottage Industry Of Debunkers

Steve Watson
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Tuesday, Oct 6, 2009

jamesrandi.jpg... In a feature article today, the [BBC] is promoting a group of "scientists and skeptics" whose declared mission is to vigorously debunk those who are questioning the "accepted versions" of [9/11].

"While many people find them harmless fun, others believe there is a darker truth - that conspiracy theories are rewriting history, warping the present and altering the future. Enough is enough they say - it's time to fight back." the report reads.

The article centres around the "non profit" James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), which charges £175 a ticket to its conferences, events that equate to little more than rabid debunking fests on everything from 9/11 truth to research claiming mercury containing vaccinations are harmful. ...

http://infowars.net/...9/061009BBC.htm

Randi, CSICOP and CIA Mind Control

CSICOP is the original skeptic organisation from which all other skeptic groups have flowed over the last thirty years. It was founded originally as a Marxist /atheist organisation that poured its academic energy into disputing everything spiritual, religious and other-worldy. For much of its early years, while the CIA searched for psychic weaponry, CSICOP was on hand to publicly dispute the possibility of such Psycho-technology, ensuring that if it was viable it didn’t fall into the wrong hands. However, in the eighties with the cold war coming to an end and the CIA turning its interests to the protection of corporate rather than cold war America, CSICOP became more and more involved in the defence of pharmaceutical company competitiveness.

The British branch of CSICOP also played a part in setting up the Campaign Against Health Fraud, which later became HealthWatch. The ‘only Professor of alternative medicine in Britain’ (very sic) Edzard Ernst, is a CSICOP fellow traveller and spoke deridingly of all forms of CAM at their 11th International Conference in London. [Jan 2008] Shaking Hands With Monsanto and Big Pharma: The Guardian and Observer’s ongoing war against alternative medicine. A review of Suckers by Rose Shapiro By Martin J Walker

Government Thought-Control of Scientists and Professionals:

This is a two-pronged, "divide-and-conquer" strategy carried out through two teams of covert propaganda agents, which I call the "Pseudo-Skeptics" and the "Pseudo-Paranormalists". The Pseudo-Skeptics pose as members and leaders of the intelligentsia, while the Pseudo-Paranormalists pose as members and leaders of the public's grass-roots "alternative" community. The message of the Pseudo-Skeptics also coincides with the government's "official, public" position on science, while the message of the Pseudo-Paranormalists is intended to represent irrationality, mixed with things like the worst kind of religious superstition and paranoia—to make the government's position seem more rational by comparison—and things the government wishes to discourage though ridicule heaped upon them by the Dupe-Intelligentsia (unwitting or useful educated idiots)

.......What we are presented with as "skeptical opinion", in those magazines on the book stands—such as The Skeptic, The Skeptical Inquirer, or Skeptical Opinion—is more like covert government propaganda ...

.......What the government's reign of thought-terror has done, is reduce the ranks of true skeptics to a small few, who have little or nothing to do with groups or their magazines. I can be confident that these magazines will not respond directly to my accusations, in obedience to a covert policy to never mention or cite anyone who is not a part of the "official" two-pronged thought-control loop. This avoidance is another badge of their conscious fraud. [pdf] Occult Science Dictatorship: The Official State Science Religion and How to Get Excommunicated by William Lyne

The so-called "sceptics" of CSICOP (Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, headed by Klass) are not true sceptics, but rather a clandestinely controlled false propaganda operation of the OSI (Office of Scientific Intelligence, a branch of the CIA's Science Directorate, under its Clandestine Services, Operations Division). Their operations within the continental U.S. are illegal under the U.S. constitution, but if you read the so-called "national security" laws, you'll see that Congress has betrayed 'We the People' by agreeing to the passage of legislation which permits this betrayal, by allowing pretty much anything the "spooks" want to do. These laws are completely VOID, because Congress has absolutely NO JURISDICTION to pass any law which contravenes constitutional prohibitions against the violation of our INVIOLABLE (human, natural) BILL OF RIGHTS, so they are all liable for prosecution by the PEOPLE for their TREASON.

http://www.whale.to/b/csicop.html

Randi's Pederasty

Like many tricksters, some of Randi's antics have caused problems for himself. He was forced to resign from the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP) because his accusations provoked lawsuits against hte Committee. One of the most publicized involved physicist Eldon Byrd, a friend of Uri Geller. On May 10, 1988 Randi made a presentation for the New York Area Skeptics in Manhattan. After his lecture, during the question and answer period, a member of the audience confronted him with a tape recording, which allegedly had Randi speaking in explicit sexual terms with young men (the recording was not played during the public meeting). I was present and watched as pandemonium almost broke out. Randi did not completely regain his composure. He accused Byrd of distributing the tape and went on to claim that Byrd was a child molester and that he was in prison. He made the same assertion in an interview with Twilight Zone Magazine. This was untrue, and in a jury trial he was found guilty of defaming Byrd.

Randi has never been married, but his sex life has received published comment regarding rumors of pederasty, including from a longtime friend James Moseley. Randi threatened lawsuits over them, but he never carried through.

http://canibuscentra...php/t44539.html

February 11, 1996, Toronto Star: "What I had hesitated to mention is that the colorful Randi has been involved in a number of lawsuits. Part of the evidence brought against Randi was a tape of his telephone conversations, of explicit sexual content, with teenage boys. Randi has at different times claimed that the tape was a hoax made by his enemies to blackmail him, that he made the tape himself, and that the police asked him to make it. Whichever version is true, it's amazing indeed that such a person could be taken seriously as a scientific adviser in an organization dedicated to denying claims of child sexual abuse."

http://www.isgp.eu/d...FMSF_freaks.htm

Also see: James Randi, CIA, Mind Control, FMSF, Selective Human Breeding, Rockey & Pellwinkle and the Pariahs Behind the Ritual Abuse of Children
 
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Posted 30 October 2014 - 04:15 PM

see   http://www.skeptical...sedscience.html



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 04:20 PM

Nothing more than a desperate attempt at character assassination, long on paranoid speculation but lacking any sort of evidence or logic. So JREF's HQ (little more than a mailing address I expect) is in the same building as a major military contractor,  this is somehow supposed to falsify the info generated by the people who post on its forum? If Simkin's next door neighbor was a child murderer/rapist or worse yet a high-level intel agent would that somehow impugn people who post here?

 

Bollyn is hardly one to throw stones, he was for a long time closely professionally associated with Wills Carto who until he died was one of the US's leading neo-Nazis/white supremacists/Holocaust deniers. He got fired by his Nazi buddies for "filing false stories" He is (or was) fugitive from justice who lied during his trial for assaulting cops

We now know that the millionaire sponsor of the JREF is Richard L. Adams Jr., the former computer programmer for SAIC and DARPA's Center for Seismic Studies. Adams started as a programmer for San Diego-based Science Application International Corp. (SAIC) and went on to a position as a data-gathering specialist with the Center for Seismic Studies, an outfit hired by the U.S. Department of Defense to develop technology for nuclear testing violation detection.

 

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JUST LANDLORD ??? NO.

Guess you see what you want to see in xxxxx vision.....SG


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 12:01 AM

More poorly sourced innuendo and character assassination, so Randi might be gay, supposedly there's a tape of him talking dirty to teenage boys but this is poorly sourced. His financial backer may have done work for the DoD (gotta better source than a crank who lied under oath and was fired for "filing false stories"?). Kooks who believe in perpetual motion and psychic dogs don't like him. Was does any of this crap have to do with the veracity of posts made on the forum that bears his name but he is not directly involved in running? Simkin and Walker seem like good people but if one of them turns out to be disreputable would that lessen the validity of posts made on this forum?



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:48 AM

  I also called Daniel W. Denman, who works as a Director in the Division of Information Technology at the University of Maryland, but he also refused to discuss his role as a director and unpaid secretary of the JREF.

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Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking ....coincidence ???????????????

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www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/joint_quantum_institute.cfm
 

 

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director of NIST; and Frederick R. Chang, director of research for the NSA. ...
Research in quantum information seeks to control and use these ...

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https://www. nsa.gov/research/tnw/tnw194/article3.shtml
 

 

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University, and a PhD in computer science from the University of Maryland, ...

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What Happens in the University of Maryland NSA Facility Where ...
www.motherjones.com/.../university-maryland-edward-snowden-nsa
 

 

Jun 12, 2013 ... Some reporters were surprised to learn that the University of Maryland had a "
covert" NSA facility operating somewhere on or near the school ...

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about us - Maryland Cybersecurity Center - University of Maryland
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UMD's proximity to the nation's capital and close interactions with key federal
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inthecapital.streetwise.co/.../university-of-maryland-the-nsa-is-on-umds-campus/
 

 

Apr 30, 2014 ... The National Security Agency has hundreds of strategic academic partnerships –
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NSA Lied About Knowledge Of 2 9/11 Hijackers In U.S., Didn't Inform The FBI
Posted by Jon Gold on Sat, 08/09/2014 - 4:11pm

By Jon Gold

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8/9/2014

For a long time now, I've been trying to figure out just exactly what the NSA knew about the hijackers and 9/11.

The main reason for this was because the 9/11 Commission barely looked at them, and the information they did come across tried to tie Iran to Al-Qaeda and 9/11. "[For executive director Philip] Zelikow and other staff on the commission, it was just more interesting—sexier—to concentrate on the CIA."

In late 2003, the NSA will allow the 9/11 Commission access to its archives on Al-Qaeda. "[P]erversely, the more eager [NSA director] General Hayden was to cooperate, the less interested [9/11 Commission executive director Philip] Zelikow and others at the commission seemed to be in what was buried in the NSA files."

Towards the end of the 9/11 Commission, "Zelikow would later admit he too was worried that important classified information had never been reviewed at the NSA and elsewhere in the government before the 9/11 commission shut its doors, that critical evidence about bin Laden’s terrorist network sat buried in government files, unread to this day. By July 2004, it was just too late to keep digging."

Interesting, since he seems to be the main reason the 9/11 Commission stayed away from the NSA.

According to this entry from www.historycommons.org:

 

"...both the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry and the 9/11 Commission examine the NSA’s intercepts of various calls made by the hijackers to an al-Qaeda communications hub in Sana’a, Yemen." The portion of the 9/11 Congressional Inquiry that touches on this "is heavily redacted so most details remain unknown. It states that, although the NSA intercepted the calls and disseminated dispatches about some of them, THE NSA DID NOT REALIZE THE HIJACKERS WERE IN THE U.S. AT THE TIME THE CALLS WERE MADE (emphasis mine)."

On 12/17/2005, George W. Bush says, "as the 9/11 Commission pointed out, it was clear that terrorists inside the United States were communicating with terrorists abroad before the September the 11th attacks, and the commission criticized our nation’s inability to uncover links between terrorists here at home and terrorists abroad. Two of the terrorist hijackers who flew a jet into the Pentagon, Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, communicated while they were in the United States to other members of al-Qaeda who were overseas. But we didn’t know they were here until it was too late."

 

"The 9/11 Commission Report contains a briefer section on the intercepts and deals with those which led to the surveillance of the al-Qaeda summit in Malaysia. In addition, it mentions that Almihdhar called his wife from San Diego in the spring of 2000, but fails to mention that his wife lived at an al-Qaeda communications hub and that the calls were intercepted by the NSA."

In her book "Wake-Up Call: The Political Education of a 9/11 Widow," 9/11 Family Member Kristen Breitweiser states:

Author Lawrence Wright makes two statements on the issue:

"Unfortunately, the NSA never checked to see where al Mihdhar’s calls were originating from— i.e., San Diego. The NSA’s oversight in not checking to see where the phone calls were being made from seems hard to believe. Nevertheless, the NSA’s negligence in this regard has been excused and overlooked. So for the nearly five months al Mihdhar was in this country and living with al Hazmi in San Diego, the NSA listened in to his phone calls back to Yemen. Notably, because NSA assumed that al Mihdhar was overseas, they passed all of their information regarding al Mihdhar solely to the CIA— not the FBI. If only the billions budgeted to NSA for intelligence had had room for caller ID. If they had just informed the FBI about the presence of al Mihdhar within our borders, the FBI would have been able to begin its investigation more than a full year before 9/ 11. " (pp. 181-182)

 

"[h]ad a line been drawn from the [communications hub] in Yemen to Alhazmi and Almihdhar’s San Diego apartment, al-Qaeda’s presence in America would have been glaringly obvious."

So basically, we are led to believe that the NSA was monitoring calls from San Diego to Yemen from the hijackers, but the NSA could not identify that the calls were coming from within the U.S. Meaning they had no idea the hijackers were in the United States.

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"You know, this is the key. The NSA is all over this phone. And everybody, you know, that has any connection with it is drawing links from that phone. Now imagine eight lines from Yemen to San Diego. How obvious would it be that al-Qaeda is in America[?]"

On 5/14/2012, an article entitled "NSA Analyst: We Could Have Prevented 9/11" was released on HuffPo. In that article, NSA Whistleblower Thomas Drake said:

 

"I can't say fully, because it's classified. But I showed that NSA knew a great deal about the 9/11 threats and Al Qaeda, electronically tracking various people and organizations for years -- since its role is to collect intelligence. The problem is, it wasn't sharing all of the data. If it had, other parts of government could have acted on it, and more than likely, NSA could have stopped, I say stopped 9/11. Later, it could have located Al Qaeda -- at the very time the U.S. was scouring Afghanistan."

Obviously, that tidbit of information further sparked my curiosity. I went to www.historycommons.org, and found every entry on the NSA that I could find, but could not see what Thomas Drake was talking about.

On 1/7/2014, in this article written by several NSA Whistleblowers, we get a clue about one of lies about 9/11.

 

"NSA knew the telephone number of the safe house in Yemen at least by 1996 and was, of course, keeping track of calls to it from the U.S. Would Mueller, Morell and Cheney have us believe NSA doesn’t know about caller ID? As William Binney has explained, automated systems take over when such calls are made and as long as you have one valid number you can obtain the other. Was it a case of gross ineptitude on NSA’s part; or was NSA deliberately withholding information linking al-Mihdhar to the known al-Qaeda base in Yemen?"

On 6/4/2014, Abby Martin has on two NSA Whistleblowers on her show "Breaking The Set." They are William Binney and Kirk Wiebe. During this interview, William Binney tells us:

 

"I know specifics… like six or seven phone calls from San Diego back to the Yemen facility. And by the way, BOTH ENDS WERE KNOWN. I MEAN BOTH NUMBERS WERE THERE. THAT'S HOW CALLER ID WORKS (emphasis mine)."

What do we learn from all of this? It seems the NSA lied, had BOTH numbers, and presumably knew the hijackers were in the United States and did not tell the FBI about it.

Is this what Thomas Drake was talking about? I don't know, but it is a pretty big lie. Personally, I would like access to all of the transcripts of the intercepts, and all other information the NSA had on Al-Qaeda before the 9/11 attacks.

Maybe someday.

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see http://politicalfilm...san-diego-lied/

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NSA intercepts of hijackers' calls – update
Posted by Kevin Fenton on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 2:56pm

I noticed this passage in the One Percent Doctrine by Ron Suskind (pp. 93-94). It is further evidence that the NSA intercepted some of the hijackers' calls to/from the US before 9/11:

“FBI investigators had been interviewing [FBI agent] Coleman and others throughout the winter, seeking context on several key NSA dispatches that had been discovered in the days after 9/11. Most notable among them were calls NSA had collected in 2000 from San Diego to a number in Yemen. The Yemen number was for the daughter of a man who, Coleman told investigators, “was the uncle of half the violent jihadists we knew of in the country.” This was the number—so familiar to Coleman from his work prosecuting al Qaeda that he knew it by heart—the 9/11 hijacker Khalid al-Mihdhar had called while he hid out in San Diego. In fact, Coleman and other FBI al Qaeda specialists had even placed an order with the NSA back in 1998—that any calls between the Yemen line and the US be passed to the bureau—that the NSA didn't fill. “For us,” Coleman said, “anyone who called the Yemen number is white-hot, a top suspect.”

Hattip: PT

I have some comments:
(1) If you hadn't already heard, the NSA intercepted some of the hijackers' calls.

(2) Al Mihdhar did not hide out in San Diego. Although he was a terrorist known to several intelligence agencies by this time he used a passport and visa in his own name, opened a bank account in his open name, rented an apartment in his own name, obtained a driving licence in his own name, etc.

(3) Dispatches! I would have thought that the NSA's first line of defence would be to claim the calls didn't meet its reporting threshold. If dispatches were drafted, then they can't use this argument.

(4) Dispatches! Would these dispatches not have been dispatched somewhere – for example to some Other Government Agency? Which one(s)? Would this Other Government Agency not then have a paper (electronic) trail related to them? I guess a paper trail like that would make it difficult for them to claim they didn't know Al Mihdhar was in the US.

(5) FBI agent Coleman indicates that in the calls Al Mihdhar talked to his wife (who was Ahmed Al Hada's daughter) as opposed, for example, to discussing operational information with her brother or father. The 9/11 Commission also made the same claim: “Mihdhar's mind seems to have been with his family back in Yemen, as evidenced by calls he made from the apartment telephone. When news of the birth of his first child arrived, he could stand life in California no longer.” (p. 222). Presumably, therefore, the Commission had some access to the NSA material. However, in the relevant endnote (No. 38 on p. 518) the Commission fails to reference the NSA dispatches (or transcripts of the calls). The relevant section only reads, “On Mihdhar's phone calls, see. e.g., FBI report, “Hijackers Timeline,” Nov. 14, 2003 (Mar. 20, 2000 entry, citing 265A-NY-280350-19426).” (Note: one of the calls was made on 20 March 2000, according to the FBI OIG report). Why would the Commission omit a story as important as the NSA intercepting the hijackers' calls? Surely it should have investigated this and found why they weren't disseminated (as Al Mihdhar was “white hot, a top suspect”) or, if they were disseminated, to whom?

(6) According to an edition of MSNBC Hardball broadcast on 21 July 2004, the calls did not end when Al Mihdhar returned to the Middle East in summer 2000 and “The final call from Yemen to the hijackers came only weeks before 9/11.”
Link: MSNBC Hardball

 
 

Edited by Steven Gaal, 31 October 2014 - 03:53 AM.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 08:34 PM

None of your incoherrent drivel tells us how any of this bull impugns the credibility of posts made on JREF which AFAICT neither Randi or Danman, a psycologist not tied to NIST or NSA, are involved it.  All you have is ad homs, 3rd degree guilt by association and character assassination. See if you can up your game. No one is reading this thread, further replies would be a waste of my time.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 10:47 PM

None of your incoherrent drivel tells us how any of this bull impugns the credibility of posts made on JREF which AFAICT neither Randi or Danman, a psycologist not tied to NIST or NSA, are involved it.  All you have is ad homs, 3rd degree guilt by association and character assassination. See if you can up your game. No one is reading this thread, further replies would be a waste of my time.

I called Rick Adams to ask about his relationship with the JREF but he refused to discuss it and hung up the phone.  I also called Daniel W. Denman, who works as a Director in the Division of Information Technology at the University of Maryland, but he also refused to discuss his role as a director and unpaid secretary of the JREF

********************

Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking and University Maryland IT ....coincidence ???????????????

=

COLBY DOES NOT ADDRESS THIS JREF and NSA NEXUS. IN TROLLISH  BEHAVIOR Colby  CALLS IT, "incoherrent drivel"

=

 

see http://educationforu...=21401&p=290208   (NSA lied,regarding 911 )

 

and for NIST I CAN POST ON THEIR blatant deceit,see below

=================

 
=======
KokomoJojo poster
Thread: So NIST lied about the failure mechanism of WTC 7 in the 911 Official Report?
It would seem the official "story" and the government and its agencies are once again subject collateral attack pending suits for fraud in their reports.

This appears to be raising the 911 truther movement to a whole new level of notoriety and solidifying their credibility.



 
As Cole has written in his article, "NIST's failure to show these stiffeners or take them into account in its analysis is yet another area where the omissions and incorrect statements are so egregious, anyone who understands these issues must by now begin to question NIST's motives."


Feeling strongly that the stiffeners revelation is the strongest evidence yet of fraudulent omissions by NIST, Szamboti, Cole, and other professionals at AE911Truth began asking what could be done from a legal perspective. Szamboti reached out to his contacts in the 9/11 Truth community, and Bill Pepper stepped forward. Eventually, a strategy was developed with the ultimate goal of forcing a whole new and independent examination into the collapse of Building 7 by either NIST itself or, better yet, an independent group.


As Pepper put it in the letter that he sent to the Inspector General on December 12, 2013, "Avoidance through stonewalling and prolonged silence will no longer suffice. This will not go away...Silence from your office or a rejection of this reasonable request may prompt my clients to seek legal recourse and to raise this issue with their colleagues in Europe where a number of government officials and professionals have long been critical of the official U.S. Government's position and explanation of the destruction of the WTC on 9/11."

Included in Bill Pepper’s letter to the Inspector General was the DVD by AE911Truth: “
9/11: Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out.


It should be noted that the
OIG pledges publically, “to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of the Department of Commerce's programs and operations. The OIG also endeavors to detect and deter waste, fraud, and abuse. OIG monitors and tracks the use of taxpayer dollars through audits, inspections, evaluations, and investigations. The Inspector General keeps the Secretary of Commerce and Congress fully and currently informed about problems and deficiencies relating to Commerce's activities and the need for corrective action.


In consideration, especially, of the stiffeners issue, our desired outcome is that the OIG will consider Pepper’s letter, evaluate the analysis provided in the letter, detect that NIST’s report on the unprecedented collapse of Building 7 is fundamentally flawed, if not fraudulent, and declare that the corrective action needed is a true and honest investigation into the free-fall collapse of Building 7 based on all the evidence, including the missing stiffeners and also the
evidence for explosive demolition. Will the OIG take its mandate seriously? Is such a scenario feasible, or even possible? With your participation in our upcoming campaign, we think that it is. Stay tuned for the Action Alerts.


As legal and other strategies are being weighed, the issue has picked up steam

William Pepper, Attorney at Law, Pursuing NIST via OIG Re: Fraudulent WTC 7 Report
The OIG wants to get out of it unscathed with an apology, when crimes appear to have been committed.

would a traffic cop let any of us get out of a speeding violation with an apology?

The agencies involved in public affairs have both trust and fiduciary obligations to the public they are presumably intended to serve.

What else did nist lie about?
 
 
===
jaydeehess poster
:

If this is to be in contention then the issue of what else could have caused the building to collapse is involved.
Nist claimed fire
Nist claimed fire caused expansion, beam walked
Nist claimed column 79 failed due to that expansion

Nist made false claims about the stiffners and walk off plate.

That is all that need be proven, this crap about proving thermite is just another debunker red herring dead end circular reasoning argument.

We can draw the following conclusions from this.

Nist chose the "best", possibly the "only" way they could bluff a natural collapse.
All other choices were not plausible.

Proven to fraud, it did not happen the way nist claims the only alternative is not natural. No other choices unless you want to go with "super natural!"

Lets see that leaves us with.....

BOOM!

However if you believe that it could have walked off anyway I would love to hear the stories you guys come up with! LOL


19481706-dreamy-emoticon-with-his-head-p
 
 
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OH BTW this type of false argument of

Shoddy Construction

 is found at RANDY'S site.
 

Edited by Steven Gaal, 31 October 2014 - 10:51 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 09:14 AM

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 12:21 PM

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dont worry ,be happy, one day you will find out who you are (this above  is a Education Forum monitors response to facts presented)

 

On related issue see  POST # 4 above

Posted 30 October 2014 - 04:15 PM

see   http://www.skeptical...sedscience.html  Presentation :logic and agenda driven thinking problems in skeptics.

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Seems facts presented are not address but

cartoonish responses made.


Edited by Steven Gaal, 02 November 2014 - 12:33 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 01:32 AM

So Gaal got any evidence other than what you got from the lying neo-Nazi fugative Bollyn? So the prof supposedly didn't want to talk to the creep, why would anyone want to? And the crazy moron got Denman's title, nothing in his CV suggests ties to the NSA, NIST or anyother gov't agency.

 

 

http://www.it.umd.ed...0512/denman.pdf



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Posted 05 November 2014 - 04:52 AM

So Gaal got any evidence other than what you got from the lying neo-Nazi fugative Bollyn? So the prof supposedly didn't want to talk to the creep, why would anyone want to? And the crazy moron got Denman's title, nothing in his CV suggests ties to the NSA, NIST or anyother gov't agency.

 

 

http://www.it.umd.ed...0512/denman.pdf

Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking and University Maryland IT ....coincidence ???????????????

=

COLBY DOES NOT ADDRESS THIS JREF and NSA NEXUS. IN TROLLISH  BEHAVIOR Colby  CALLS IT, "incoherrent drivel"

++++++++++++++
 

  • WEll thank you Colby you got me to dig deeper. Put in Denmans name at what was called PUB Med and found some intriguing items that connects said DENMAN to the defense establishment. His article listed there (PUB MED) referred to signals (electromagnetic) effecting blood coagulation by DARPA (the D stands for Defense (as in DOD) if you dont know.) A make you bleed ray ???? Maybe because I then searched at PUB MED using the lead scientific author in said DENMAM article - putting in my search Jonas WB and  Biowarfare and got 3 articles at bottom. The middle 3  articles is something PUB MED does in showing related articles ( Related citations in PubMed) an interpretation of said articles would be  in military terms as use  for an electromagnetic weapon. So Colby contends that DENMAMS just makes everyones PC work without problems at the university ????? IMHO, no he is more than that.
  • ================================================================================
  • Can specific biological signals be digitized?
    Author information
    • 1Samueli Institute for Information Biology, Alexandria, Virginia, 22314, USA. wjonas@siib.org
    Abstract

    At the request of the United States Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, we attempted to replicate the data of Professor Jacques Benveniste that digital signals recorded on a computer disc produce specific biological effects. The hypothesis was that a digitized thrombin inhibitor signal would inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway. Because of the controversies associated with previous research of Prof. Benveniste, we developed a system for the management of social controversy in science that incorporated an expert in social communication and conflict management. The social management approach was an adaptation of interactional communication theory, for management of areas that interfere with the conduct of good science. This process allowed us to successfully complete a coordinated effort by a multidisciplinary team, including Prof. Benveniste, a hematologist, engineer, skeptic, statistician, neuroscientist and conflict management expert. Our team found no replicable effects from digital signals.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Related citations in PubMed

    (to the side related article on )

    Effects of low-energy electromagnetic fields (pulsed and DC) on membrane signal transduction processes in biological systems.

    Luben RA.

    Health Phys. 1991 Jul;61(1):15-28. Review.

    PMID: 2061045 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Molecular recognition and processing of periodic signals in cells: study of activation of membrane ATPases by alternating electric fields.

    Tsong TY.

    Biochim Biophys Acta. 1992 Mar 26;1113(1):53-70. Review.

    PMID: 1532330 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Risk management frameworks for human health and environmental risks.

    Jardine C, Hrudey S, Shortreed J, Craig L, Krewski D, Furgal C, McColl S.

    J Toxicol Environ Health B Crit Rev. 2003 Nov-Dec;6(6):569-720. Review.

    PMID: 14698953 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 

    ###########################

    Jonas WB

    Rapid induction of protective tolerance to potential terrorist agents: a systematic review of low- and ultra-low dose research.

    Szeto AL, Rollwagen F, Jonas WB.

    Homeopathy. 2004 Oct;93(4):173-8. Review.

    PMID: 15532694 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Related citations

    Select item 118903822.

    Directions for research in complementary medicine and bioterrorism.

    Jonas WB.

    Altern Ther Health Med. 2002 Mar-Apr;8(2):30-1. No abstract available.

    PMID: 11890382 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    Related citations


Edited by Steven Gaal, 05 November 2014 - 05:25 AM.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 11:31 PM

 

So Gaal got any evidence other than what you got from the lying neo-Nazi fugative Bollyn? So the prof supposedly didn't want to talk to the creep, why would anyone want to? And the crazy moron got Denman's title, nothing in his CV suggests ties to the NSA, NIST or anyother gov't agency.

 

 

http://www.it.umd.ed...0512/denman.pdf

Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking and University Maryland IT ....coincidence ???????????????

=

COLBY DOES NOT ADDRESS THIS JREF and NSA NEXUS. IN TROLLISH  BEHAVIOR Colby  CALLS IT, "incoherrent drivel"

++++++++++++++

 

 

I asked you for a reliable citation, see if you come up with one/any.

 

 

 

 

  • WEll thank you Colby you got me to dig deeper. Put in Denmans name at what was called PUB Med and found some intriguing items that connects said DENMAN to the defense establishment. His article listed there (PUB MED) referred to signals (electromagnetic) effecting blood coagulation by DARPA (the D stands for Defense (as in DOD) if you dont know.) A make you bleed ray ???? Maybe because I then searched at PUB MED using the lead scientific author in said DENMAM article - putting in my search Jonas WB and  Biowarfare and got 3 articles at bottom. The middle 3  articles is something PUB MED does in showing related articles ( Related citations in PubMed) an interpretation of said articles would be  in military terms as use  for an electromagnetic weapon. So Colby contends that DENMAMS just makes everyones PC work without problems at the university ????? IMHO, no he is more than that.
  • ================================================================================
  • Can specific biological signals be digitized?
    Author information
    • 1Samueli Institute for Information Biology, Alexandria, Virginia, 22314, USA. wjonas@siib.org
    Abstract

    At the request of the United States Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, we attempted to replicate the data of Professor Jacques Benveniste that digital signals recorded on a computer disc produce specific biological effects. The hypothesis was that a digitized thrombin inhibitor signal would inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway. Because of the controversies associated with previous research of Prof. Benveniste, we developed a system for the management of social controversy in science that incorporated an expert in social communication and conflict management. The social management approach was an adaptation of interactional communication theory, for management of areas that interfere with the conduct of good science. This process allowed us to successfully complete a coordinated effort by a multidisciplinary team, including Prof. Benveniste, a hematologist, engineer, skeptic, statistician, neuroscientist and conflict management expert. Our team found no replicable effects from digital signals.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Uuuh NO, apparently some guy named Benveniste claimed that signals generated when data is recorded to disc could "inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway" this team of which Deaman was 3rd listed of six authors (thus he was a minor player) concluded this was BS.

 

 

Related citations in PubMed

(to the side related article on )

Effects of low-energy electromagnetic fields (pulsed and DC) on membrane signal transduction processes in biological systems.

Luben RA.

Health Phys. 1991 Jul;61(1):15-28. Review.

PMID: 2061045 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Molecular recognition and processing of periodic signals in cells: study of activation of membrane ATPases by alternating electric fields.

Tsong TY.

Biochim Biophys Acta. 1992 Mar 26;1113(1):53-70. Review.

PMID: 1532330 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ++++++++++++++++++++++

Risk management frameworks for human health and environmental risks.

Jardine C, Hrudey S, Shortreed J, Craig L, Krewski D, Furgal C, McColl S.

J Toxicol Environ Health B Crit Rev. 2003 Nov-Dec;6(6):569-720. Review.

PMID: 14698953 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 

###########################

Jonas WB

Rapid induction of protective tolerance to potential terrorist agents: a systematic review of low- and ultra-low dose research.

Szeto AL, Rollwagen F, Jonas WB.

Homeopathy. 2004 Oct;93(4):173-8. Review.

PMID: 15532694 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Related citations

Select item 118903822.

Directions for research in complementary medicine and bioterrorism.

Jonas WB.

Altern Ther Health Med. 2002 Mar-Apr;8(2):30-1. No abstract available.

PMID: 11890382 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Related citations

 

 

How exactly are these article tied to him



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Posted 06 November 2014 - 12:01 AM

 

 

So Gaal got any evidence other than what you got from the lying neo-Nazi fugative Bollyn? So the prof supposedly didn't want to talk to the creep, why would anyone want to? And the crazy moron got Denman's title, nothing in his CV suggests ties to the NSA, NIST or anyother gov't agency.

 

 

http://www.it.umd.ed...0512/denman.pdf

Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking and University Maryland IT ....coincidence ???????????????

=

COLBY DOES NOT ADDRESS THIS JREF and NSA NEXUS. IN TROLLISH  BEHAVIOR Colby  CALLS IT, "incoherrent drivel"

++++++++++++++

 

 

I asked you for a reliable citation, see if you come up with one/any.

 

 

 

 

  • WEll thank you Colby you got me to dig deeper. Put in Denmans name at what was called PUB Med and found some intriguing items that connects said DENMAN to the defense establishment. His article listed there (PUB MED) referred to signals (electromagnetic) effecting blood coagulation by DARPA (the D stands for Defense (as in DOD) if you dont know.) A make you bleed ray ???? Maybe because I then searched at PUB MED using the lead scientific author in said DENMAM article - putting in my search Jonas WB and  Biowarfare and got 3 articles at bottom. The middle 3  articles is something PUB MED does in showing related articles ( Related citations in PubMed) an interpretation of said articles would be  in military terms as use  for an electromagnetic weapon. So Colby contends that DENMAMS just makes everyones PC work without problems at the university ????? IMHO, no he is more than that.
  • ================================================================================
  • Can specific biological signals be digitized?
    Author information
    • 1Samueli Institute for Information Biology, Alexandria, Virginia, 22314, USA. wjonas@siib.org
    Abstract

    At the request of the United States Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, we attempted to replicate the data of Professor Jacques Benveniste that digital signals recorded on a computer disc produce specific biological effects. The hypothesis was that a digitized thrombin inhibitor signal would inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway. Because of the controversies associated with previous research of Prof. Benveniste, we developed a system for the management of social controversy in science that incorporated an expert in social communication and conflict management. The social management approach was an adaptation of interactional communication theory, for management of areas that interfere with the conduct of good science. This process allowed us to successfully complete a coordinated effort by a multidisciplinary team, including Prof. Benveniste, a hematologist, engineer, skeptic, statistician, neuroscientist and conflict management expert. Our team found no replicable effects from digital signals.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Uuuh NO, apparently some guy named Benveniste claimed that signals generated when data is recorded to disc could "inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway" this team of which Deaman was 3rd listed of six authors (thus he was a minor player) concluded this was BS.

 

 

Related citations in PubMed

(to the side related article on )

Effects of low-energy electromagnetic fields (pulsed and DC) on membrane signal transduction processes in biological systems.

Luben RA.

Health Phys. 1991 Jul;61(1):15-28. Review.

PMID: 2061045 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Molecular recognition and processing of periodic signals in cells: study of activation of membrane ATPases by alternating electric fields.

Tsong TY.

Biochim Biophys Acta. 1992 Mar 26;1113(1):53-70. Review.

PMID: 1532330 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ++++++++++++++++++++++

Risk management frameworks for human health and environmental risks.

Jardine C, Hrudey S, Shortreed J, Craig L, Krewski D, Furgal C, McColl S.

J Toxicol Environ Health B Crit Rev. 2003 Nov-Dec;6(6):569-720. Review.

PMID: 14698953 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 

###########################

Jonas WB

Rapid induction of protective tolerance to potential terrorist agents: a systematic review of low- and ultra-low dose research.

Szeto AL, Rollwagen F, Jonas WB.

Homeopathy. 2004 Oct;93(4):173-8. Review.

PMID: 15532694 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Related citations

Select item 118903822.

Directions for research in complementary medicine and bioterrorism.

Jonas WB.

Altern Ther Health Med. 2002 Mar-Apr;8(2):30-1. No abstract available.

PMID: 11890382 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Related citations

 

 

How exactly are these article tied to him

 

 

 ANSWER

Uuuh NO, apparently some guy named Benveniste claimed that signals generated when data is recorded to disc could "inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway" this team of which Deaman was 3rd listed of six authors (thus he was a minor player) concluded this was BS // Colby

Gee you found 3rd you must have thus seen first...and I wrote

=============

 Maybe because I then searched at PUB MED using the lead scientific author in said DENMAM article - putting in my search Jonas WB and  Biowarfare and got 3 articles at bottom. The middle 3  articles is something PUB MED does in showing related articles ( Related citations in PubMed) an interpretation of said articles would be  in military terms as use  for an electromagnetic weapon. So Colby contends that DENMAMS just makes everyones PC work without problems at the university ????? IMHO, no he is more than that. // GAAL

++++++++++
THUS YOU IGNORED WHAT I WROTE THUS YOUR RESPONSE IS NON-RESPONSIVE = Colby  TROLLISH.

++++++++++
 

Uuuh NO, apparently some guy named Benveniste claimed that signals generated when data is recorded to disc could "inhibit the fibrinogen-thrombin coagulation pathway" this team of which Deaman was 3rd listed of six authors (thus he was a minor player) concluded this was BS.// Colby

===============

How could passive recording have an effect ????  Dont you get it ?? You record then resend the data back. IF you dont understand ?? Well I will be polite but if you pretend not to understand = Colby TROLLISH. Lead author of Denman article  has worked on electromagnetic effects on people which I sighted in my post (repeated below)

Molecular recognition and processing of periodic signals in cells: study of activation of membrane ATPases by alternating electric fields.

Tsong TY.

Biochim Biophys Acta. 1992 Mar 26;1113(1):53-70. Review.

PMID: 1532330 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

++++++++++++++++++++++

other electromagmnetic articles Jonas WB

=

 

 

Healing with Homeopathy: The Complete Guide - Google Books Result
books.google.com/books?isbn=0759525080
Wayne B. Jonas, Jennifer Jacobs - ‎2009 - Health & Fitness
Interactions Between Electromagnetic Fields and Cells (pp. 281–296). New York:
Plenum. Linde, K.; Jonas, W. B.; Melchart, D.; Worku, F.; Wagner, H.; and Eitel, ...
  •  
     
     
    Nobel Prize Winner Takes Homeopathy Seriously - Huffington Post
    www.huffingtonpost.com/.../luc-montagnier-homeopathy-taken-seriously_b_814619.html
     

     

    Jan 30, 2011 ... Montagnier's new research is investigating the electromagnetic .... (10) Jonas,
    WB, Linde, Klaus, and Ramirez, Gilbert, "Homeopathy and ...

    =================

    Find the digital electronic  signature  that stops clotting and then send it BACK into the battle field enemy.

    COLBY PROBABLY  REPONDS ,"BUT IT DOSENT SAY THAT"

    I RESOND TO COLBY = xxxxx

    DARPA ISNT sweetness ,light, unicorns, butterflies and cotton candy.

    Gimme a break...and the skeptics say the CT people dont live in the real world.

    ####################################

    ####################################

    PART 2 

    Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

    Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking ....coincidence ???????????????

    (Gaal)

     

    I asked you for a reliable citation, see if you come up with one/any. COLBY

    =================================

    ANSWER (YOU DIDNT SEE THIS INFO POST # 7 ????????)

    THIS IS PART POST # 7

     

    Very close relationship University  Maryland IT and NSA/NIST.(GAAL)

    Very close relationship Randy site 911 debunking ....coincidence ???????????????

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Joint Quantum Institute Created by University of Maryland, NIST and ...
    www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/joint_quantum_institute.cfm
     

     

    Sep 11, 2006 ... COLLEGE PARK, Md. – Today, the University of Maryland (UM), the Commerce
    Department's National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), and the ...
    director of NIST; and Frederick R. Chang, director of research for the NSA. ...
    Research in quantum information seeks to control and use these ...

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    Introducing the federal cybersecurity R&D strategic plan - National ...
    https://www. nsa.gov/research/tnw/tnw194/article3.shtml
     

     

    Since 1991, the federal Networking and Information Technology Research and ...
    including the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, DoD, DHS, NSA, NSF,
    .... Dr. Douglas Maughan is the cybersecurity division director in the Homeland ...
    University, and a PhD in computer science from the University of Maryland, ...

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    What Happens in the University of Maryland NSA Facility Where ...
    www.motherjones.com/.../university-maryland-edward-snowden-nsa
     

     

    Jun 12, 2013 ... Some reporters were surprised to learn that the University of Maryland had a "
    covert" NSA facility operating somewhere on or near the school ...

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    about us - Maryland Cybersecurity Center - University of Maryland
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    UMD's proximity to the nation's capital and close interactions with key federal
    agencies, such as the National Security Agency (NSA), US Cyber Command, and
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    ==University of Maryland: The NSA is on UMD's Campus | InTheCapital
    inthecapital.streetwise.co/.../university-of-maryland-the-nsa-is-on-umds-campus/
     

     

    Apr 30, 2014 ... The National Security Agency has hundreds of strategic academic partnerships –
    including a connection to University of Maryland – that you've ...

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