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Jul 10 2006, 11:32 AM
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This passage appears in John H. Davis' The Kennedy Contract: The Mafia Plot to Assassinate the President (1993):
In June 1992, I was a guest on a live, syndicated television special produced by George Paige Associates in Los Angeles entitled "The Kennedy Assassinations-Coincidence or Conspiracy?" which was principally concerned with the allegation of Frank Ragano that Hoffa, Trafficante, and Marcello had conspired to assassinate President Kennedy. Other guests on the show were Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, author of The Hoffa Wars, Philip Melanson, author of books on Lee Harvey Oswald and the Robert Kennedy assassination case, James Spada, author of Peter Lawford: The Man Who Kept the Secrets, and Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. When at the end of the two hour show the guests were asked by the host what the ultimate purpose of the Garrison investigation was, the vote was unanimous: to protect Carlos Marcello from being named a suspect in the Kennedy assassination. What do members think of this theory? |
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Jul 10 2006, 11:41 AM
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This passage appears in John H. Davis' The Kennedy Contract: The Mafia Plot to Assassinate the President (1993): Other guests on the show were Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, author of The Hoffa Wars, Philip Melanson, author of books on Lee Harvey Oswald and the Robert Kennedy assassination case, James Spada, author of Peter Lawford: The Man Who Kept the Secrets, and Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. When at the end of the two hour show the guests were asked by the host what the ultimate purpose of the Garrison investigation was, the vote was unanimous: to protect Carlos Marcello from being named a suspect in the Kennedy assassination.[/color] What do members think of this theory? I am not a Garrison admirer, but it strikes me that, if Garrison wanted to keep attention away from Marcello, the last thing he would have done is draw attention to New Orleans, which had heretofore been largely ignored by Warren Commission critics. |
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Jul 10 2006, 11:57 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5156 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Europe Member No.: 2082 |
This passage appears in John H. Davis' The Kennedy Contract: The Mafia Plot to Assassinate the President (1993): In June 1992, I was a guest on a live, syndicated television special produced by George Paige Associates in Los Angeles entitled "The Kennedy Assassinations-Coincidence or Conspiracy?" which was principally concerned with the allegation of Frank Ragano that Hoffa, Trafficante, and Marcello had conspired to assassinate President Kennedy. Other guests on the show were Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, author of The Hoffa Wars, Philip Melanson, author of books on Lee Harvey Oswald and the Robert Kennedy assassination case, James Spada, author of Peter Lawford: The Man Who Kept the Secrets, and Victor Marchetti, author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. When at the end of the two hour show the guests were asked by the host what the ultimate purpose of the Garrison investigation was, the vote was unanimous: to protect Carlos Marcello from being named a suspect in the Kennedy assassination. What do members think of this theory? TOTAL BULL****!!!!!! Read Joan Mellen's excellent book A Farewell to Justice, Potomac Books 2005 for an 'case-closed' death blow to those kinds of dis-information, continue-the-cover-up claims. This is from the same dark forces that penetrated and twarted Garrison's investigation and trial. All complex, but laid-out clearly and convincingly and with paragraph by paragraph references to all in Mellen's book. Too complex to really do justice to here in a post. Garrison was on to the right persons. Even with all the infiltrators in his staff, dirty tricks, lies and more done to him he kept on a self-correcting course toward the right persons involved and who was behind them - the CIA [to say it in shorthand] and those the CIA works for and with. Garrison was NOT involved with nor did he protect the Mafia nor any in it. That lie was invented to stop his persuit of the truth...the thing the CIA and those they work for fear the most and constantly invent counters to. |
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Jul 10 2006, 12:06 PM
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TOTAL BULL****!!!!!! Read Joan Mellen's excellent book A Farewell to Justice, Potomac Books 2005 for an 'case-closed' death blow to those kinds of dis-information, continue-the-cover-up claims. This is from the same dark forces that penetrated and twarted Garrison's investigation and trial. All complex, but laid-out clearly and convincingly and with paragraph by paragraph references to all in Mellen's book. Too complex to really do justice to here in a post. Garrison was on to the right persons. Even with all the infiltrators in his staff, dirty tricks, lies and more done to him he kept on a self-correcting course toward the right persons involved and who was behind them - the CIA [to say it in shorthand] and those the CIA works for and with. Garrison was NOT involved with nor did he protect the Mafia nor any in it. That lie was invented to stop his persuit of the truth...the thing the CIA and those they work for fear the most and constantly invent counters to. Garrison was clearly a flawed human - he ran his mouth in public, he was too quick to endorse wacky theories. But he propelled the investigation forward by light years and he opened up numerous lines of inquiry that we are still following today. |
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Jul 10 2006, 01:09 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1969 Joined: 27-October 04 From: Austin, Tx. Member No.: 1787 |
TOTAL BULL****!!!!!! Read Joan Mellen's excellent book A Farewell to Justice, Potomac Books 2005 for an 'case-closed' death blow to those kinds of dis-information, continue-the-cover-up claims. This is from the same dark forces that penetrated and twarted Garrison's investigation and trial. All complex, but laid-out clearly and convincingly and with paragraph by paragraph references to all in Mellen's book. Too complex to really do justice to here in a post. Garrison was on to the right persons. Even with all the infiltrators in his staff, dirty tricks, lies and more done to him he kept on a self-correcting course toward the right persons involved and who was behind them - the CIA [to say it in shorthand] and those the CIA works for and with. Garrison was NOT involved with nor did he protect the Mafia nor any in it. That lie was invented to stop his persuit of the truth...the thing the CIA and those they work for fear the most and constantly invent counters to. I agree. Read also Destiny Betrayed -Jim DiEugenio, and Let Justice Be Done- Bill Davy. (I received an eamil from Owen last nite informing me that Bill Davy has just loined the forum. GREAT!!) Dawn |
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Jul 10 2006, 02:33 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 14081 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Worthing, Sussex Member No.: 7 |
John H. Davis, Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, Philip Melanson, James Spada and Victor Marchetti are clearly wrong in their assessment of Jim Garrison. As J. Raymond Carroll rightly points out: “if Garrison wanted to keep attention away from Marcello, the last thing he would have done is draw attention to New Orleans, which had heretofore been largely ignored by Warren Commission critics”.
These writers have got it the wrong way round. The role of people like Richard Billings, Bernardo de Torres, Gerry Hemming, Thomas Bethall, etc. was to direct Garrison away from the CIA towards Marcello and the Mafia. Garrison refused and so every effort was made to discredit him. This included a very successful campaign to persuade the public that Garrison was in the pay of Marcello. Garrison real problem was that he did not realize that after the CIA failure to get him to accept the Marcello story, their next strategy was to direct him towards Clay Shaw. Cleverly, they did use someone with links to the CIA. Garrison took the bait and as a result he was finally discredited by his poor case against him. |
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Jul 10 2006, 09:55 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5156 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Europe Member No.: 2082 |
Garrison real problem was that he did not realize that after the CIA failure to get him to accept the Marcello story, their next strategy was to direct him towards Clay Shaw. Cleverly, they did use someone with links to the CIA. Garrison took the bait and as a result he was finally discredited by his poor case against him. I'm going to have to differ with you here John, Shaw was involved in the plot and Garrison knew he was just middle to low-middle 'management' in the assassination. His loosing the case was because of the host of dirty tricks done to him too numerous to mention here, now. They included, but were not limited to: infiltration of his office and the passing of witness lists and information and files to the other side; witnesses moved by CIA out of state to states who had agreed to not extradite them for the trial, selection of the judge, and more..... As Garrison said, "Clarence Darrow lost the Scopes trial - who knows it? Garrison led the way and despite a few mis-steps and having purposely being led in the wrong direction a few times, if he had not have had the full weight of the CIA at the HIGHEST levels of that organization and same for FBI we would not now be wondering who done it...we would know and have seen some of them in jail. That trial was just to be the first of many...sadly it was the last of one aborted one...but not [in my opinion] Garrison's fault in any major way at all. I see him as an unsung hero and all too many even in the assassination research community have internalized some of the lies spun about him out of phony cloth. Read Mellen's book. This post has been edited by Peter Lemkin: Jul 10 2006, 09:58 PM |
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Jul 11 2006, 06:46 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 14081 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Worthing, Sussex Member No.: 7 |
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Jul 11 2006, 07:08 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5156 Joined: 9-December 04 From: Europe Member No.: 2082 |
Read Mellen's book. I have. I was not impressed. I thought it was ironic that Joan's investigation was infiltrated by Gerry Hemming. Why? To take her to Angelo Murgado. That says it all. She didn't use one lead or suggestion of fact/(lie?) he presented to her that was not verifiable through other means. Not one reference in her very fully referrenced book it to GPH. She is totally suspect of Hemming and only spent any time with him because he was part of the Garrison melee. I was impressed by her book. I'm not saying that it is 100% correct as I don't think anyone in this field can be - given the density, complexity of the information and plots and the disinformation [which in volume alone outweighs the information by perhaps 99:1]. However, her (I believe) correct rendering of the investigation and role of Garrison have gone a long way to correct the lies and smear campaign against Garrison that even fooled many an otherwise good researcher. Garrison was the ONLY legal case against (some) of the plotters and that scared the shit out of the CIA and others who wanted the truth suppressed. They did everything in their power to make sure it did not succeed. I believe this is all clearly laid out in her book. This post has been edited by Peter Lemkin: Jul 13 2006, 12:33 PM |
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Sep 30 2009, 04:38 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 14081 Joined: 16-December 03 From: Worthing, Sussex Member No.: 7 |
There are some good YouTube videos on Jim Garrison. I have linked them to my page on Garrison:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKgarrison.htm I would recommend the following: Jim Garrison Response (in 3 parts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0p3tyZUlQ Jim Garrison Story (in 3 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7gQ4wy_ShE |
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Oct 3 2009, 04:04 PM
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There are some good YouTube videos on Jim Garrison. I have linked them to my page on Garrison: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKgarrison.htm I would recommend the following: Jim Garrison Response (in 3 parts) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS0p3tyZUlQ Jim Garrison Story (in 3 parts): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7gQ4wy_ShE I am past the point of engaging in semantics about Jim Garrison. On the other hand, Peter Lemkin hit the nail on the head re the "mob did it," crowd mentioned earlier. The whole idea of my posting on the Forum, has become anachronistic, as apparently if one hasn't a curriculum vitae that includes a major book or article, one is just another idiot with an opinion. Although those sentiments are not mine. I have always maintained a policy of sacrificing my time to transcribe pertinent documents, present leads and the results have been what I would call dismal, which is why I have 2 posts on the Forum in the last thirty day's. Whining is for those who cannot deal with reality, and even though the Forum does not seem to be what it used to be, I will at least contribute "new information." The original depiction of events as described by Jim Garrison continues to be even more valid that ever. Why, or, to be more accurate how can this be "proved?" In a sense one would have to be a historian to explain.... Suffice to say the following.......Oswald's intelligence connections have been proven, his relationship with Bannister is a fact, Bannister was connected to ONI, whether he was a "member" of ONI or not is academic his connections to ONI are proven by virtue of the fact that he knew Guy Johnson. Guy Johnson see cryptonym OCKADIAK, and Jack Martin aka Stuart Suggs are in the same world, the much maligned movie JFK was not inaccurate in depicting Bannister pistol whipping Jack Martin on November 22, 1963. Dean Andrews was involved in a potential arrangement to see that Oswald was provided "legal representation," until that became academic. The name Martin pops up in all sorts of places, there is more to that story that can be fit into a single forum post. The subtitle to the Kennedy Assassination could be said to be "the devils in the details," I would imagine the current insanity regarding our President being depicted as a "Marxist," is not unlike the treatment President Kennedy received in the last days of his administration, the only difference id that instead of Billy James Hargis we have Rush Limbaugh...... It is also interesting that the very first suspect in the Kennedy Assassination was Jack W Martin of Goldonna, Louisana, who may or may not have been connected to the same netherworld of "religious groups and Minuteman types" that are the subject of Peter Levenda's writings. There is also a new name to throw into the mix, someone named William Quitman Wolfson and in a purely speculative mode it would be interesting to speculate if the British born Wolfson Foundation circa 1955 rates as much attention as the other foundations which were of such interest in 1967....... There is a Bob Dylan song entitled "Your Gonna Miss Me When I'm Gone." I would find it ironic if I quit posting on the forum, and no one even noticed, which pretty much appears to be what is happening..... This post has been edited by Robert Howard: Oct 3 2009, 04:11 PM |
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Oct 3 2009, 05:44 PM
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John H. Davis, Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, Philip Melanson, James Spada and Victor Marchetti are clearly wrong in their assessment of Jim Garrison. As J. Raymond Carroll rightly points out: “if Garrison wanted to keep attention away from Marcello, the last thing he would have done is draw attention to New Orleans, which had heretofore been largely ignored by Warren Commission critics”. These writers have got it the wrong way round. The role of people like Richard Billings, Bernardo de Torres, Gerry Hemming, Thomas Bethall, etc. was to direct Garrison away from the CIA towards Marcello and the Mafia. Garrison refused and so every effort was made to discredit him. This included a very successful campaign to persuade the public that Garrison was in the pay of Marcello. Garrison real problem was that he did not realize that after the CIA failure to get him to accept the Marcello story, their next strategy was to direct him towards Clay Shaw. Cleverly, they did use someone with links to the CIA. Garrison took the bait and as a result he was finally discredited by his poor case against him. Clay Shaw was a director of Permindex. This was the organization headed by British SOE Louis Mortimer Bloomfield. This was also the organization identified by French Intelligence in 1967 as being responsible for the assassination attempts against Charles DeGaulle in the early 1960's. Permindex was also linked to the murder of Italian industrialist Enrico Mattei. Garrison was right on target identifying Clay Shaw as being part of the conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy. The problem with his investigation came with interlopers like Lord Bertrand Russell (who despised President Kennedy) who got inside his investigation, as well as the dirty tricks carried out by former Kennedy Justice Department operative Walter Sheridan. This post has been edited by Terry Mauro: Oct 3 2009, 05:45 PM |
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Oct 3 2009, 08:30 PM
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John H. Davis, Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, Philip Melanson, James Spada and Victor Marchetti are clearly wrong in their assessment of Jim Garrison. As J. Raymond Carroll rightly points out: “if Garrison wanted to keep attention away from Marcello, the last thing he would have done is draw attention to New Orleans, which had heretofore been largely ignored by Warren Commission critics”. These writers have got it the wrong way round. The role of people like Richard Billings, Bernardo de Torres, Gerry Hemming, Thomas Bethall, etc. was to direct Garrison away from the CIA towards Marcello and the Mafia. Garrison refused and so every effort was made to discredit him. This included a very successful campaign to persuade the public that Garrison was in the pay of Marcello. Garrison real problem was that he did not realize that after the CIA failure to get him to accept the Marcello story, their next strategy was to direct him towards Clay Shaw. Cleverly, they did use someone with links to the CIA. Garrison took the bait and as a result he was finally discredited by his poor case against him. Clay Shaw was a director of Permindex. This was the organization headed by British SOE Louis Mortimer Bloomfield. This was also the organization identified by French Intelligence in 1967 as being responsible for the assassination attempts against Charles DeGaulle in the early 1960's. Permindex was also linked to the murder of Italian industrialist Enrico Mattei. Garrison was right on target identifying Clay Shaw as being part of the conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy. The problem with his investigation came with interlopers like Lord Bertrand Russell (who despised President Kennedy) who got inside his investigation, as well as the dirty tricks carried out by former Kennedy Justice Department operative Walter Sheridan. ROBERT I FOR ONE WOULD CERTAINLY MISS YOUR VALUABLE POSTED INFORMATION...B... NBC The National Broadcasting Company became an active participant in the government's efforts to protect Clay Shaw and to ruin Jim Garrison. Two of NBC's high-level management people, Richard Townley of NBC's affiliate in New Orleans, WDSU, and Walter Sheridan, executive producer, became personally and directly involved in the Shaw trial. They were indicted by a grand jury in New Orleans for bribing witnesses, suppressing evidence and interfering with trial proceedings. NBC top-level management backed Sheridan and Townley. NBC produced a highly biased, provably dishonest program personally attacking Garrison and defending Shaw prior to the trial. Frank McGee, who acted as moderator, later had to publicly apologize for lies told on the program by two "witnesses" whom NBC paid to give statements against Garrison. The FCC ruled that NBC had to give Garrison equal time because the program was not a news program but a vendetta by NBC against Garrison. NBC did give Garrison 30 minutes (compared to their one-hour attack) to respond at a later date. Sheridan was the producer of the one-hour show. With Sheridan and Townley so deeply involved, and with such an extremely strong editorial position favoring the Justice Department, the Warren Commission, and the lone assassin stance, suspicions were raised about NBC's and RCA's independence.[7] At one point in 1967 the president of NBC, according to Walter Sheridan, helped in the bribery efforts by calling Mr. Gherlock, head of Equitable Life Insurance Company's New York office, and asked for assurance that Perry Russo, who worked for Equitable, would cooperate with NBC. NBC is also the owner of several important pieces of photographic evidence. A TV film taken by NBC photographer David Weigman was suppressed by NBC and not made available to researchers. It shows the grassy knoll in the background just a fraction of a minute after the shots. Some of the assassination participants can be seen on the knoll. Fortunately for researchers, NBC sold the Weigman film to the other networks and to the news film agencies before realizing its importance. The author was able to purchase a copy from Hearst Metrotone News. NBC's affiliate, WBAP in Fort Worth, has several important film sequences. James Darnell took several sequences on the grassy knoll and in the parking lot which should contain important evidence. Dan Owens took TV movies in and around the Depository building which should show how the snipers' nest was faked on the sixth floor, and one of the assassins in front of the building. Saturday Evening Post The position of the Saturday Evening Post solidified after the Garrison probe became public. It was based in large part on the reporting of one man, James Phelan. Phelan wrote a blistering article for the Post published on May 6, 1967. He attacked Garrison and Russo, and claimed that Russo's original statement to Assistant D.A. Andrew Sciambra differed from his later testimony. In view of the earlier editorial position of the Post when Lyron Land and his wife questioned the Warren Commission findings, the Phelan article came as somewhat of a surprise. In fact, the Post had taken a strong conspiracy stand when in 1967 it published a long article excerpted from Josiah Thompson's book, Six Seconds in Dallas, and featured it on the magazine's cover. The Garrison investigation, however, turned the Post around. Phelan became directly involved in the case, and in a sense was more of an accessory than Walter Sheridan or Richard Townley. He travelled to Louisiana from Texas, spent many hours with Perry Russo and other witnesses, and generally obfuscated the Shaw trial picture. Phelan joined the efforts to persuade Russo to desert Garrison and to help destroy Garrison and his case. According to a sworn Russo statement, Phelan visited his house four times within a few weeks. Phelan told Russo he was working hand-in-hand with Townley and Sheridan, that they were in constant contact, and that they were going to destroy Garrison and the probe. Phelan warned Russo that he should abandon his position and that Russo would be the only one hurt as a result of the trial. Phelan claimed Garrison would leave Russo alone, standing in the cold. Phelan offered to hire a $200,000-a-year lawyer from New York for Russo if he would cooperate against Garrison. He asked Russo how he would feel about sending an innocent man (Clay Shaw) to the penitentiary. Phelan left New Orleans and Baton Rouge and returned to New York, only to telephone Russo several times and offer to pay Russo's plane fare to New York to meet with him and discuss going over to Clay Shaw's side. Phelan was subpoenaed by Shaw's lawyers during a hearing in 1967 because his article attacked Garrison. Sciambra welcomed the opportunity to cross-examine Phelan on the stand. He described the article as being incomplete, distorted and tantamount to lying. Sciambra said, "I guarantee that he (Phelan) will be exposed for having twisted the facts in order to build up a scoop for himself and the Saturday Evening Post."" Sciambra went on to say that Phelan had neglected the most important fact of all in his article. It was that Phelan had been told by Russo in Baton Rouge that Russo and Sciambra had discussed the plot dialogue (to assassinate JFK) at their initial meeting. and on......... http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp9.html *************** GARRISON: ""Guy Banister -- it's difficult to say much about him, because he always stood in the shadows and pushed someone else to the front. He was a strongly disciplined man, perhaps the outgrowth of his many years as a special agent in charge of the Chicago office of the FBI. But he was a key man in the assassination, and that's clear from the fact that Oswald's "sheep-dipping" -- his being portrayed as a Communist -- was done out of Guy Banister's office. So he was sheep-dipped for months as a Communist by giving literature: "Lee, hand this out today. This is your assignment."" TMWKK pt 4.....B Fletcher Prouty Eulogizes Jim Garrison We all note and mourn the passing of that "Old Law-Man" Jim Garrison of New Orleans. Jim was the only official in this great country of ours w/the courage & fortitude to comply w/the law & the terms of his sworn oath of office to bring charges against the conspirators in the case of the death of our Pres. John F. Kennedy. Law requires that a murder be tried in the state where it occurred, & for that crime there is no statute of limitations. This remains the responsibility of the State of Texas. Jim Garrison did his best when, as District Attorney in New Orleans, he brought charges against the man he had reason to believe was a conspirator in that crime. For this...for doing his duty, Jim was attacked from all sides, from the Fed. Govt, other state govts, the biggest guns of the media, & many members of the press. Jim was doing his duty. They maligned him, castigated him, whipped him. Still he held his head high with determination & pride. I'm proud to say that Jim was my friend. We corresponded after he sent me the manuscript of his great book, "On the Trail of the Assassins" & had great respect for each other's work. He & I worked together with Oliver Stone and Zachary Sklar on the development of the script for the movie "JFK." For this, all of us were again attacked by the media and others. Jim and I were born early in the era of "Communism" and we have out-lived the Cold War. We have both lived to see the end of that ideological structure that overshadowed all our lives. Jim hoped his "book will help the younger generation to understand better the political, social, & historical consequences of the assassination & the subsequent cover-up. Today we still live with those consequences...a deceptive secret government, a docile press, a pervasive cynicism and corruption." My friend Jim Garrison fought against great odds to change all that. Those of us who were with him continue that fight. The Garrison battle lives on. Jim would understand us as we say, "To Live in the Hearts We Leave Behind is Not to Die." Fletcher Prouty below small photo on right is andrew sciambra.. This post has been edited by Bernice Moore: Oct 3 2009, 09:25 PM
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Oct 3 2009, 10:14 PM
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John H. Davis, Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, Philip Melanson, James Spada and Victor Marchetti are clearly wrong in their assessment of Jim Garrison. As J. Raymond Carroll rightly points out: “if Garrison wanted to keep attention away from Marcello, the last thing he would have done is draw attention to New Orleans, which had heretofore been largely ignored by Warren Commission critics”. These writers have got it the wrong way round. The role of people like Richard Billings, Bernardo de Torres, Gerry Hemming, Thomas Bethall, etc. was to direct Garrison away from the CIA towards Marcello and the Mafia. Garrison refused and so every effort was made to discredit him. This included a very successful campaign to persuade the public that Garrison was in the pay of Marcello. Garrison real problem was that he did not realize that after the CIA failure to get him to accept the Marcello story, their next strategy was to direct him towards Clay Shaw. Cleverly, they did use someone with links to the CIA. Garrison took the bait and as a result he was finally discredited by his poor case against him. Clay Shaw was a director of Permindex. This was the organization headed by British SOE Louis Mortimer Bloomfield. This was also the organization identified by French Intelligence in 1967 as being responsible for the assassination attempts against Charles DeGaulle in the early 1960's. Permindex was also linked to the murder of Italian industrialist Enrico Mattei. Garrison was right on target identifying Clay Shaw as being part of the conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy. The problem with his investigation came with interlopers like Lord Bertrand Russell (who despised President Kennedy) who got inside his investigation, as well as the dirty tricks carried out by former Kennedy Justice Department operative Walter Sheridan. ROBERT I FOR ONE WOULD CERTAINLY MISS YOUR VALUABLE POSTED INFORMATION...B... NBC The National Broadcasting Company became an active participant in the government's efforts to protect Clay Shaw and to ruin Jim Garrison. Two of NBC's high-level management people, Richard Townley of NBC's affiliate in New Orleans, WDSU, and Walter Sheridan, executive producer, became personally and directly involved in the Shaw trial. They were indicted by a grand jury in New Orleans for bribing witnesses, suppressing evidence and interfering with trial proceedings. NBC top-level management backed Sheridan and Townley. NBC produced a highly biased, provably dishonest program personally attacking Garrison and defending Shaw prior to the trial. Frank McGee, who acted as moderator, later had to publicly apologize for lies told on the program by two "witnesses" whom NBC paid to give statements against Garrison. The FCC ruled that NBC had to give Garrison equal time because the program was not a news program but a vendetta by NBC against Garrison. NBC did give Garrison 30 minutes (compared to their one-hour attack) to respond at a later date. Sheridan was the producer of the one-hour show. With Sheridan and Townley so deeply involved, and with such an extremely strong editorial position favoring the Justice Department, the Warren Commission, and the lone assassin stance, suspicions were raised about NBC's and RCA's independence.[7] At one point in 1967 the president of NBC, according to Walter Sheridan, helped in the bribery efforts by calling Mr. Gherlock, head of Equitable Life Insurance Company's New York office, and asked for assurance that Perry Russo, who worked for Equitable, would cooperate with NBC. NBC is also the owner of several important pieces of photographic evidence. A TV film taken by NBC photographer David Weigman was suppressed by NBC and not made available to researchers. It shows the grassy knoll in the background just a fraction of a minute after the shots. Some of the assassination participants can be seen on the knoll. Fortunately for researchers, NBC sold the Weigman film to the other networks and to the news film agencies before realizing its importance. The author was able to purchase a copy from Hearst Metrotone News. NBC's affiliate, WBAP in Fort Worth, has several important film sequences. James Darnell took several sequences on the grassy knoll and in the parking lot which should contain important evidence. Dan Owens took TV movies in and around the Depository building which should show how the snipers' nest was faked on the sixth floor, and one of the assassins in front of the building. Saturday Evening Post The position of the Saturday Evening Post solidified after the Garrison probe became public. It was based in large part on the reporting of one man, James Phelan. Phelan wrote a blistering article for the Post published on May 6, 1967. He attacked Garrison and Russo, and claimed that Russo's original statement to Assistant D.A. Andrew Sciambra differed from his later testimony. In view of the earlier editorial position of the Post when Lyron Land and his wife questioned the Warren Commission findings, the Phelan article came as somewhat of a surprise. In fact, the Post had taken a strong conspiracy stand when in 1967 it published a long article excerpted from Josiah Thompson's book, Six Seconds in Dallas, and featured it on the magazine's cover. The Garrison investigation, however, turned the Post around. Phelan became directly involved in the case, and in a sense was more of an accessory than Walter Sheridan or Richard Townley. He travelled to Louisiana from Texas, spent many hours with Perry Russo and other witnesses, and generally obfuscated the Shaw trial picture. Phelan joined the efforts to persuade Russo to desert Garrison and to help destroy Garrison and his case. According to a sworn Russo statement, Phelan visited his house four times within a few weeks. Phelan told Russo he was working hand-in-hand with Townley and Sheridan, that they were in constant contact, and that they were going to destroy Garrison and the probe. Phelan warned Russo that he should abandon his position and that Russo would be the only one hurt as a result of the trial. Phelan claimed Garrison would leave Russo alone, standing in the cold. Phelan offered to hire a $200,000-a-year lawyer from New York for Russo if he would cooperate against Garrison. He asked Russo how he would feel about sending an innocent man (Clay Shaw) to the penitentiary. Phelan left New Orleans and Baton Rouge and returned to New York, only to telephone Russo several times and offer to pay Russo's plane fare to New York to meet with him and discuss going over to Clay Shaw's side. Phelan was subpoenaed by Shaw's lawyers during a hearing in 1967 because his article attacked Garrison. Sciambra welcomed the opportunity to cross-examine Phelan on the stand. He described the article as being incomplete, distorted and tantamount to lying. Sciambra said, "I guarantee that he (Phelan) will be exposed for having twisted the facts in order to build up a scoop for himself and the Saturday Evening Post."" Sciambra went on to say that Phelan had neglected the most important fact of all in his article. It was that Phelan had been told by Russo in Baton Rouge that Russo and Sciambra had discussed the plot dialogue (to assassinate JFK) at their initial meeting. and on......... http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp9.html *************** GARRISON: ""Guy Banister -- it's difficult to say much about him, because he always stood in the shadows and pushed someone else to the front. He was a strongly disciplined man, perhaps the outgrowth of his many years as a special agent in charge of the Chicago office of the FBI. But he was a key man in the assassination, and that's clear from the fact that Oswald's "sheep-dipping" -- his being portrayed as a Communist -- was done out of Guy Banister's office. So he was sheep-dipped for months as a Communist by giving literature: "Lee, hand this out today. This is your assignment."" TMWKK pt 4.....B Fletcher Prouty Eulogizes Jim Garrison We all note and mourn the passing of that "Old Law-Man" Jim Garrison of New Orleans. Jim was the only official in this great country of ours w/the courage & fortitude to comply w/the law & the terms of his sworn oath of office to bring charges against the conspirators in the case of the death of our Pres. John F. Kennedy. Law requires that a murder be tried in the state where it occurred, & for that crime there is no statute of limitations. This remains the responsibility of the State of Texas. Jim Garrison did his best when, as District Attorney in New Orleans, he brought charges against the man he had reason to believe was a conspirator in that crime. For this...for doing his duty, Jim was attacked from all sides, from the Fed. Govt, other state govts, the biggest guns of the media, & many members of the press. Jim was doing his duty. They maligned him, castigated him, whipped him. Still he held his head high with determination & pride. I'm proud to say that Jim was my friend. We corresponded after he sent me the manuscript of his great book, "On the Trail of the Assassins" & had great respect for each other's work. He & I worked together with Oliver Stone and Zachary Sklar on the development of the script for the movie "JFK." For this, all of us were again attacked by the media and others. Jim and I were born early in the era of "Communism" and we have out-lived the Cold War. We have both lived to see the end of that ideological structure that overshadowed all our lives. Jim hoped his "book will help the younger generation to understand better the political, social, & historical consequences of the assassination & the subsequent cover-up. Today we still live with those consequences...a deceptive secret government, a docile press, a pervasive cynicism and corruption." My friend Jim Garrison fought against great odds to change all that. Those of us who were with him continue that fight. The Garrison battle lives on. Jim would understand us as we say, "To Live in the Hearts We Leave Behind is Not to Die." Fletcher Prouty below small photo on right is andrew sciambra.. Bernice this is a priceless post you just made, I also agree with the points made by Terry Mauro...... I have been involved in a special project in which I am basically compiling a catalogue of all 1,555 Warren Commission Documents, although the idea may seem laughable, I have learned more over the last couple of months about the assassination, than I did in any comparable time frame. If you go to NARA and look at the various other files of ARRB members, other than Russ Holmes' files, one gets the distinct impression, that possibly a majority of the remaining classified documents deal extensively with two topics Documents pertaining to the Office of Naval Intelligence and Jim Garrison's files. It would be wise to remember that when Connick inherited the office of District Attorney after Jim Garrison later became a judge in Louisiana, there were allegations, some might say irrefutable proof, that Garrison's files became very harmful to the lone assassin nonsense of the 1960's. Joan Mellen argued that one CIA personage, Alfred J. Moran, had his CIA file "sanitized," and not with Lysol, if you know what I mean..... I have had, and still have, major concerns about the "sanctity" read, security of the current repository of JFK Assassination related documents, my concern has validity in light of the fact, that it is a documented fact that the Secret Service was responsible for the destruction of some of its own documents pertaining to the assassination, in direct contravention of the directives outlined in the establishment of the JFK Records Collection Act. I have made the point before that I fear the remaining JFK Classified documents may ultimately share the same fate as the big fish in Hemingway's Old Man & The Sea........ I would love to be wrong but it was not so long ago, that documents pertaining to the death of George Polk suddenly went down a rabbit hole......probably never to be seen again.... |
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John H. Davis, Frank Ragano, Dan Moldea, Philip Melanson, James Spada and Victor Marchetti are clearly wrong in their assessment of Jim Garrison. As J. Raymond Carroll rightly points out: “if Garrison wanted to keep attention away from Marcello, the last thing he would have done is draw attention to New Orleans, which had heretofore been largely ignored by Warren Commission critics”. These writers have got it the wrong way round. The role of people like Richard Billings, Bernardo de Torres, Gerry Hemming, Thomas Bethall, etc. was to direct Garrison away from the CIA towards Marcello and the Mafia. Garrison refused and so every effort was made to discredit him. This included a very successful campaign to persuade the public that Garrison was in the pay of Marcello. Garrison real problem was that he did not realize that after the CIA failure to get him to accept the Marcello story, their next strategy was to direct him towards Clay Shaw. Cleverly, they did use someone with links to the CIA. Garrison took the bait and as a result he was finally discredited by his poor case against him. Clay Shaw was a director of Permindex. This was the organization headed by British SOE Louis Mortimer Bloomfield. This was also the organization identified by French Intelligence in 1967 as being responsible for the assassination attempts against Charles DeGaulle in the early 1960's. Permindex was also linked to the murder of Italian industrialist Enrico Mattei. Garrison was right on target identifying Clay Shaw as being part of the conspiracy to murder John F. Kennedy. The problem with his investigation came with interlopers like Lord Bertrand Russell (who despised President Kennedy) who got inside his investigation, as well as the dirty tricks carried out by former Kennedy Justice Department operative Walter Sheridan. ROBERT I FOR ONE WOULD CERTAINLY MISS YOUR VALUABLE POSTED INFORMATION...B... NBC The National Broadcasting Company became an active participant in the government's efforts to protect Clay Shaw and to ruin Jim Garrison. Two of NBC's high-level management people, Richard Townley of NBC's affiliate in New Orleans, WDSU, and Walter Sheridan, executive producer, became personally and directly involved in the Shaw trial. They were indicted by a grand jury in New Orleans for bribing witnesses, suppressing evidence and interfering with trial proceedings. NBC top-level management backed Sheridan and Townley. NBC produced a highly biased, provably dishonest program personally attacking Garrison and defending Shaw prior to the trial. Frank McGee, who acted as moderator, later had to publicly apologize for lies told on the program by two "witnesses" whom NBC paid to give statements against Garrison. The FCC ruled that NBC had to give Garrison equal time because the program was not a news program but a vendetta by NBC against Garrison. NBC did give Garrison 30 minutes (compared to their one-hour attack) to respond at a later date. Sheridan was the producer of the one-hour show. With Sheridan and Townley so deeply involved, and with such an extremely strong editorial position favoring the Justice Department, the Warren Commission, and the lone assassin stance, suspicions were raised about NBC's and RCA's independence.[7] At one point in 1967 the president of NBC, according to Walter Sheridan, helped in the bribery efforts by calling Mr. Gherlock, head of Equitable Life Insurance Company's New York office, and asked for assurance that Perry Russo, who worked for Equitable, would cooperate with NBC. NBC is also the owner of several important pieces of photographic evidence. A TV film taken by NBC photographer David Weigman was suppressed by NBC and not made available to researchers. It shows the grassy knoll in the background just a fraction of a minute after the shots. Some of the assassination participants can be seen on the knoll. Fortunately for researchers, NBC sold the Weigman film to the other networks and to the news film agencies before realizing its importance. The author was able to purchase a copy from Hearst Metrotone News. NBC's affiliate, WBAP in Fort Worth, has several important film sequences. James Darnell took several sequences on the grassy knoll and in the parking lot which should contain important evidence. Dan Owens took TV movies in and around the Depository building which should show how the snipers' nest was faked on the sixth floor, and one of the assassins in front of the building. Saturday Evening Post The position of the Saturday Evening Post solidified after the Garrison probe became public. It was based in large part on the reporting of one man, James Phelan. Phelan wrote a blistering article for the Post published on May 6, 1967. He attacked Garrison and Russo, and claimed that Russo's original statement to Assistant D.A. Andrew Sciambra differed from his later testimony. In view of the earlier editorial position of the Post when Lyron Land and his wife questioned the Warren Commission findings, the Phelan article came as somewhat of a surprise. In fact, the Post had taken a strong conspiracy stand when in 1967 it published a long article excerpted from Josiah Thompson's book, Six Seconds in Dallas, and featured it on the magazine's cover. The Garrison investigation, however, turned the Post around. Phelan became directly involved in the case, and in a sense was more of an accessory than Walter Sheridan or Richard Townley. He travelled to Louisiana from Texas, spent many hours with Perry Russo and other witnesses, and generally obfuscated the Shaw trial picture. Phelan joined the efforts to persuade Russo to desert Garrison and to help destroy Garrison and his case. According to a sworn Russo statement, Phelan visited his house four times within a few weeks. Phelan told Russo he was working hand-in-hand with Townley and Sheridan, that they were in constant contact, and that they were going to destroy Garrison and the probe. Phelan warned Russo that he should abandon his position and that Russo would be the only one hurt as a result of the trial. Phelan claimed Garrison would leave Russo alone, standing in the cold. Phelan offered to hire a $200,000-a-year lawyer from New York for Russo if he would cooperate against Garrison. He asked Russo how he would feel about sending an innocent man (Clay Shaw) to the penitentiary. Phelan left New Orleans and Baton Rouge and returned to New York, only to telephone Russo several times and offer to pay Russo's plane fare to New York to meet with him and discuss going over to Clay Shaw's side. Phelan was subpoenaed by Shaw's lawyers during a hearing in 1967 because his article attacked Garrison. Sciambra welcomed the opportunity to cross-examine Phelan on the stand. He described the article as being incomplete, distorted and tantamount to lying. Sciambra said, "I guarantee that he (Phelan) will be exposed for having twisted the facts in order to build up a scoop for himself and the Saturday Evening Post."" Sciambra went on to say that Phelan had neglected the most important fact of all in his article. It was that Phelan had been told by Russo in Baton Rouge that Russo and Sciambra had discussed the plot dialogue (to assassinate JFK) at their initial meeting. and on......... http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ToA/ToAchp9.html *************** GARRISON: ""Guy Banister -- it's difficult to say much about him, because he always stood in the shadows and pushed someone else to the front. He was a strongly disciplined man, perhaps the outgrowth of his many years as a special agent in charge of the Chicago office of the FBI. But he was a key man in the assassination, and that's clear from the fact that Oswald's "sheep-dipping" -- his being portrayed as a Communist -- was done out of Guy Banister's office. So he was sheep-dipped for months as a Communist by giving literature: "Lee, hand this out today. This is your assignment."" TMWKK pt 4.....B Fletcher Prouty Eulogizes Jim Garrison We all note and mourn the passing of that "Old Law-Man" Jim Garrison of New Orleans. Jim was the only official in this great country of ours w/the courage & fortitude to comply w/the law & the terms of his sworn oath of office to bring charges against the conspirators in the case of the death of our Pres. John F. Kennedy. Law requires that a murder be tried in the state where it occurred, & for that crime there is no statute of limitations. This remains the responsibility of the State of Texas. Jim Garrison did his best when, as District Attorney in New Orleans, he brought charges against the man he had reason to believe was a conspirator in that crime. For this...for doing his duty, Jim was attacked from all sides, from the Fed. Govt, other state govts, the biggest guns of the media, & many members of the press. Jim was doing his duty. They maligned him, castigated him, whipped him. Still he held his head high with determination & pride. I'm proud to say that Jim was my friend. We corresponded after he sent me the manuscript of his great book, "On the Trail of the Assassins" & had great respect for each other's work. He & I worked together with Oliver Stone and Zachary Sklar on the development of the script for the movie "JFK." For this, all of us were again attacked by the media and others. Jim and I were born early in the era of "Communism" and we have out-lived the Cold War. We have both lived to see the end of that ideological structure that overshadowed all our lives. Jim hoped his "book will help the younger generation to understand better the political, social, & historical consequences of the assassination & the subsequent cover-up. Today we still live with those consequences...a deceptive secret government, a docile press, a pervasive cynicism and corruption." My friend Jim Garrison fought against great odds to change all that. Those of us who were with him continue that fight. The Garrison battle lives on. Jim would understand us as we say, "To Live in the Hearts We Leave Behind is Not to Die." Fletcher Prouty below small photo on right is andrew sciambra.. Bernice this is a priceless post you just made, I also agree with the points made by Terry Mauro...... I have been involved in a special project in which I am basically compiling a catalogue of all 1,555 Warren Commission Documents, although the idea may seem laughable, I have learned more over the last couple of months about the assassination, than I did in any comparable time frame. If you go to NARA and look at the various other files of ARRB members, other than Russ Holmes' files, one gets the distinct impression, that possibly a majority of the remaining classified documents deal extensively with two topics Documents pertaining to the Office of Naval Intelligence and Jim Garrison's files. It would be wise to remember that when Connick inherited the office of District Attorney after Jim Garrison later became a judge in Louisiana, there were allegations, some might say irrefutable proof, that Garrison's files became very harmful to the lone assassin nonsense of the 1960's. Joan Mellen argued that one CIA personage, Alfred J. Moran, had his CIA file "sanitized," and not with Lysol, if you know what I mean..... I have had, and still have, major concerns about the "sanctity" read, security of the current repository of JFK Assassination related documents, my concern has validity in light of the fact, that it is a documented fact that the Secret Service was responsible for the destruction of some of its own documents pertaining to the assassination, in direct contravention of the directives outlined in the establishment of the JFK Records Collection Act. I have made the point before that I fear the remaining JFK Classified documents may ultimately share the same fate as the big fish in Hemingway's Old Man & The Sea........ I would love to be wrong but it was not so long ago, that documents pertaining to the death of George Polk suddenly went down a rabbit hole......probably never to be seen again.... THANKS ROBERT HOPEFULLY IT SHEDS SOME FURTHER WEE BIT OF LIGHT ON HOW THEY TOGETHER TRIED TO BURY GARRISON..YES THE SS DELIBERATELY DESTROYED SO VERY MUCH OF IT'S FILES..BY THE DRAWERFUL..FWIW SEE BELOW.. BEST B..TAKE CARE AND THANKS FOR THE TIP..RE DOCS..NI INYTERESTING..B..I'LL BE BACK CANNOT FIND THE DOC TO ATTACH.. BAH HUMBUG..I SHALL..""When Mastrovito took charge of the JFK assassination file, it consisted of 5 or 6 file cabinets of L material. After Mastrovito finished “culling” irrelevant material, HA.. file cabinet. Mastrovito guessed that his purging of extraneous material took place around 1970. The Secret Service White House Detail of President John F. Kennedy PHOTOS www.youtube.com/ watch?v=xFALugIcQGs www.youtube.com/ watch?v=xFALugIcQGs HERE'S WHAT JAMRS MASTROVITO HAS TO SAY...11 May 2005 ... My name is James M. (Mike) Mastrovito and I retired in 2004 after a .... Michael Mastrovito of the Secret Service should be interviewed ... www.barnley.blogspot.com -11 May 2005 ... My name is James M. (Mike) Mastrovito and I retired in 2004 after a .... Michael Mastrovito of the Secret Service should be interviewed ... www.barnley.blogspot.com/ - This post has been edited by Bernice Moore: Oct 3 2009, 11:41 PM
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