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#1 Jack White

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 10:18 PM

Today I spotted some differences comparing Willis 5 to Zapruder.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 01:52 AM

Today I spotted some differences comparing Willis 5 to Zapruder.

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Jack, to sensibly talk about 'perspective annomalies' ... one must first understand perspective and how it works. You have merely drawn two parallel lines across your image and not given any consideration that those lines are supposed to meet at a 'vanishing point' to be correct. I have offered a brief example of what you need to do to better understand perspective.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 01:58 AM

That's part of it Bill, but also the "peak" of Jackies cap from Willis' point of view.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 02:24 AM


Today I spotted some differences comparing Willis 5 to Zapruder.

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Jack, to sensibly talk about 'perspective annomalies' ... one must first understand perspective and how it works. You have merely drawn two parallel lines across your image and not given any consideration that those lines are supposed to meet at a 'vanishing point' to be correct. I have offered a brief example of what you need to do to better understand perspective.

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As any beginning student knows, perspective lines must be
extended till they meet.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 04:07 AM

As any beginning student knows, perspective lines must be
extended till they meet.

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That is nice that you drew the lines out off the photo until they met, Jack, but as long as I used the matching points on the limo - there was no way for them not to meet. If you go back to post #1 - your two lines are running parallel to each other ... had you accounted for perspective (that thing you mastered) when talking about how things looked from Zapruder's view, then you would have drawn the correct line over Jackie and seen that JFK fell below it just as he does on the Willis photo.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 05:10 AM


As any beginning student knows, perspective lines must be
extended till they meet.

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That is nice that you drew the lines out off the photo until they met, Jack, but as long as I used the matching points on the limo - there was no way for them not to meet. If you go back to post #1 - your two lines are running parallel to each other ... had you accounted for perspective (that thing you mastered) when talking about how things looked from Zapruder's view, then you would have drawn the correct line over Jackie and seen that JFK fell below it just as he does on the Willis photo.

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As the limo approaches westward, the north south perspective lines are
nearly parallel.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 05:47 AM

As the limo approaches westward, the north south perspective lines are
nearly parallel.

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Jack, I thought you mastered perspective? Moorman wasn't 15 feet behind the limo and the perspective lines across the car are not parallel. Z202 is seen from an even steeper angle, thus there should be no parallel lines connecting various points on the limo. Your line passing over Jackie's hat is incorrect and has nothing to do with the true perspective of that film frame.

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