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[Pat Speer]

It appears that neither Hitler nor Goebbels said “the bigger the lie, the more easily the public will accept it." nor "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it" and citations that they did are based on misquoting that passage from Mein Kampf.



I admit when I’m wrong Jack, maybe you should do likewise.

The Wikipedia entry is helpful on this issue. Ironically, people who quote Goebbels and Hitler on the use of the Big Lie are unwittingly quoting an OSS report! I have that report somewhere, and will have to find it and go back through it.

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The phrase Big Lie refers to a propaganda technique which entered mass consciousness with Adolf Hitler's 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf. In that book Hitler wrote that people came to believe that Germany lost World War I in the field due to a propaganda technique used by Jews who were influential in the German press. This technique, he believed, consisted of telling a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe anyone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously". The first documented use of the phrase "big lie" is in the corresponding passage: "in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility".¹

Later, Joseph Goebbels put forth a slightly different theory which has come to be more commonly associated with the phrase big lie. In this theory, the English are attributed with using a propaganda technique wherein they had the mendacity to "lie big" and "stick to it".²

There is an uncited rumor to the effect that Goebbels also offered up his version of the big lie technique without attributing it to either Jewish or Allied propaganda. That uncited quote is the most wide-spread attribution of the big lie, and it is usually given in a context where the implication is that the propaganda technique was invented by Goebbels, who was the propaganda minister for the Third Reich.³

The phrase was also used (on page 51) in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile [1]

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. - OSS report page 51 [2]

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This post has been edited by Pat Speer: Oct 19 2006, 09:25 PM

[Len Colby]

I believe that people often fall for big lies more often then small ones.....some psycholgical effect is operating here - an incredulity factor - that no one would / could make up such a big lie..so it must be true...and/or it is beyond their sense of the normal range of fibs, white-lies, tall-tales and day-to-day lies...so they have nothing to match it against [can't remember the last time I saw the WTC fall and certainly not due to a scenario like this...] so accept it when it comes from authority....as they have been trained...daddy, police, military, corporations, rich and famous, president and all his noble men...Xa, Xa, Xa.

Wow! What an original theory!! As to Peter's straw man it not just the government that backs the collapse theory and says a 757 hit the Pentagon but every qualified expert who has studied these questions. He seems to be alluding the apeal to authority logical fallicy which is only a fallicy when the 'authority' is not an expert in subject of dispute. For example

-9/11 revisionist make a big deal about Kevin Ryan having worked for UL but normally omit that he worked for a water testing company bought by UL only a few moth before the attacks and that he had no involement in the companies standards testing activities,

-ST911 likes to make a big deal about the PhD's in their ranks but these advanced degrees are not in applicable subjects,

-Jeffery King is often described by "truthers" as an "MIT engineer" but he is a physician who got a BS in electrical engineering from that school decades ago and only briefly worked as a PE. Electrical engineering of course doesn't offer special insight into building collapses.



Len